SG1-RPG Tollan Power and planetary destruction.

[NecronLord]

I was examining the Season One expansion for the Stargate RPG today, and discovered that it had ihn there a tollan device called a fission generator (No, not nuclear fission, Quadlibrium Physics based fission, whatever that is) of the type that they gave Serita that provided infinite energy, and a specific power output, 5.33*10^24W. Stunningly impressive as the device is supposedly backpack sized. One gets the feeling they were looking through the AotC ICS and said, "Right, we'll make it a bit more powerful than a Trade Federation Core Ship..."

Apparently to destroy a planet, such a generator only needs to be modded to output 2.33*10^25J, as this is, in SG1, enough to destroy a planet when "innapropriately applied." That said, this isn't all that surprising, if Serita were a naquadah rich world, it would be crammed with explosives in much the same way Scooter claims Alderann was.

I'm no longer so sure that the RPG is entirely non canon, the more one looks at it, the more reasonable its claims become. Certainly if it were canon, it'd set a likely lower limit of 1,273,900,573 Mt/shot on the power of an ion cannon, which seems, frankly, obscene. Suddenly Naquadria planet shattering sounds sane.

[Luzifer's right hand]

Certainly if it were canon, it'd set a likely lower limit of 1,273,900,573 Mt/shot on the power of an ion cannon, which seems, frankly, obscene

And they still need shield penetration technology to get past the shield of a Ha'Tak.

[NecronLord]

I doubt the veracity of that figure, but with an exploding Zero Point power source of the Ancients apparently being able to destroy a solar system, and the Asgard having recently shown the ability to make a star into a black hole, Stargate's power levels just shot up.

Using such a number, we could also imply that the yeild of one of those Tollan WMDs would be 2.33*10^25J

[NecronLord]

Think that's bad, apparently, Marduk had a habit of extinguishing all life in entire solar systems by ramming Naquadah laden Ha'taks into the stars...

[Luzifer's right hand]

Think that's bad, apparently, Marduk had a habit of extinguishing all life in entire solar systems by ramming Naquadah laden Ha'taks into the stars...

From where does the Stargate technology get such high amounts of energy?


Reminds me of Perry Rhodan where a weapon powered by a fusion reactor can destroy a planet because it's getting most of the energy from hyperspace.

[NecronLord]

From where does the Stargate technology get such high amounts of energy?

Err... IIRC the mountain has a nuclear reactor. The stargate doesn't need such amounts of energy.

[Luzifer's right hand]

From where does the Stargate technology get such high amounts of energy?

Err... IIRC the mountain has a nuclear reactor. The stargate doesn't need such amounts of energy.

I mean Stargate universe technology like the "Quadlibrium Physics based fission".

[NecronLord]

I mean Stargate universe technology like the "Quadlibrium Physics based fission".

Who the hell knows? Right from the film we were basically told that Naquadah = Magic.

[Luzifer's right hand]

I mean Stargate universe technology like the "Quadlibrium Physics based fission".

Who the hell knows? Right from the film we were basically told that Naquadah = Magic.

Well the unexplained energy amplification effect is at least better than brainless technobabble.

[NecronLord]

Well the unexplained energy amplification effect is at least better than brainless technobabble.

It works in precisely the same matter as hypermatter annihalation. Suspesnion of disbelief.

[Ender]

I was examining the Season One expansion for the Stargate RPG today, and discovered that it had ihn there a tollan device called a fission generator (No, not nuclear fission, Quadlibrium Physics based fission, whatever that is) of the type that they gave Serita that provided infinite energy, and a specific power output, 5.33*10^24W. Stunningly impressive as the device is supposedly backpack sized. One gets the feeling they were looking through the AotC ICS and said, "Right, we'll make it a bit more powerful than a Trade Federation Core Ship..."

Apparently to destroy a planet, such a generator only needs to be modded to output 2.33*10^25J, as this is, in SG1, enough to destroy a planet when "innapropriately applied." That said, this isn't all that surprising, if Serita were a naquadah rich world, it would be crammed with explosives in much the same way Scooter claims Alderann was.

Or if it was a smaller planet. I don't think it was ever said that the beings on the other planet were human, they could be aliens.

[Ender]

Hey, does it say anything about the Goauld having massive terratorming technology? Because I was thinking about this:

SG-1 blows up a moon. Debris should hit the planet, turning it into an uninhabitable rock ala Endor. But Apothis is still using it as his base in the season 5 opener. One possibility is planetary shields, which explains some things, but raises way too many other questions as a result. So is there evidence of terraforming?

[NecronLord]

Or if it was a smaller planet. I don't think it was ever said that the beings on the other planet were human, they could be aliens.

I suppose so. Need to be pretty tiny though.

Well, Goa'uld terraforming's a big unknown. Poor Delmak gets quite a battering throughout the series though, so It's kinda hard to tell.

[Super-Gagme]

I'm no longer so sure that the RPG is entirely non canon, the more one looks at it

Well I did post a link to Alderac forums with a comment from the license manager saying they had the right to write canon as long as it didn't contradict. You of course replied with "I don't think it's canon." Or did you miss the whole fact that it was the Alderac license manager?

[NecronLord]

But then there's the fact that such a yield is vastly above anything ever seen on the show, and the numerous other silly things about the RPG.

[Super-Gagme]

But then there's the fact that such a yield is vastly above anything ever seen on the show, and the numerous other silly things about the RPG.

The same can be said for any Star Wars EU material as well, yet it still has a place. We need the find the middle ground And what kind of stuff is very contradictory?

[Murazor]

But then there's the fact that such a yield is vastly above anything ever seen on the show, and the numerous other silly things about the RPG.

If Enterprise has alien nazis, why can't Stargate have Aliens in Space?

[Murazor]

The same can be said for any Star Wars EU material as well, yet it still has a place. We need the find the middle ground And what kind of stuff is very contradictory?

Thousands for warships for the Asgard during the Replicator war, one goa'uld using ha'taks loaded with naquadah to blow stars or something like this and the Stargate under nazi control during the Second World War are those I am aware of.

[Super-Gagme]

Thousands for warships for the Asgard during the Replicator war

This contradicts with the show how? Considering the Asgard were part of the once great alliance, I'd guess they were quite large. It seems reasonable to think they lost those ships in the war, hell they're down to one planet!

one goa'uld using ha'taks loaded with naquadah to blow stars

Considering all the ways Stars are destroyed in Stargate, this somehow feels right to me. Can you prove it isn't possible?

the Stargate under nazi control during the Second World War

Okay, this directly contradicts.

[Murazor]

Thousands for warships for the Asgard during the Replicator war

This contradicts with the show how? Considering the Asgard were part of the once great alliance, I'd guess they were quite large. It seems reasonable to think they lost those ships in the war, hell they're down to one planet!

I also used to think that the Asgard were far more numerous than they seem to be right now, but seeing how few of them are now I doubt they were at any point as big as I believed.

Considering all the ways Stars are destroyed in Stargate, this somehow feels right to me. Can you prove it isn't possible?

Mistaken info in my part. I was talking about:

Think that's bad, apparently, Marduk had a habit of extinguishing all life in entire solar systems by ramming Naquadah laden Ha'taks into the stars...

the Stargate under nazi control during the Second World War

Okay, this directly contradicts.

This seems to come from the mention of the Russians getting their DHD from the Germans after the 2nd World War. It is even worse, because they seemingly created an off-world colony.

[Ender]

But then there's the fact that such a yield is vastly above anything ever seen on the show, and the numerous other silly things about the RPG.

The same can be said for any Star Wars EU material as well, yet it still has a place.

Actually, SW EU is far lower then what it should be from the films.

[Super-Gagme]

But then there's the fact that such a yield is vastly above anything ever seen on the show, and the numerous other silly things about the RPG.

The same can be said for any Star Wars EU material as well, yet it still has a place.

Actually, SW EU is far lower then what it should be from the films.

The point was inconsistency, not firepower

[NecronLord]

A link clarifying this figure. I just bought the appropriate book and asked. So, there's the answer.

[Crazedwraith]

As to the naquadah laden ha'tak, basically isn't that the red sky premise uberfied?

[NecronLord]

Oh, it's possible. I'm actually liking the RPG's additions to the canon more the more I read of it.