Revolutions review (Spoilers)

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-11-06 12:40am

Firstly, I liked their explanation of the Oracle looking different, I felt it was a nice way around it. I loved the fight scenes, because there was at least some sense of danger, Smith was equal to Neo, Trinity Morpheus and Seraph we just brilliant. What annoyed me was the way the machines were done in various parts, like the smaller ones making a face. And the Deus Ex Machina to get rid of the Smiths and Machines. Also the shift in Smith was annoying, he was a calm character with some dry cool with in the first two, now he appeared as a madman.
The defence of Zion was well done, the mechs doing well for their part, and the sense of desperation about it.
I felt Trinitity's death was done right, she died for Neo as she said he would, and Neo died to save Zion. I did not see that coming.

That's all I can think of right now.

I give it 8/10.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-11-06 12:49am

I forgot to add:
- Merovingan's suit is the exact same one I'll be wearing to my school formal.

- Epilepsy + that fight with Neo and the Smithed guy = Headache.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-11-06 01:07am

Gandalf wrote:Also the shift in Smith was annoying, he was a calm character with some dry cool with in the first two, now he appeared as a madman.

Well, in the first movie at the end he showed that he was quite emotional when he was speaking to Morpheus and fighting with Neo.

But yes, I'm disappointed at how they emasculated the agents. They were the COOLESt characters in The Matrix and Reloaded. They should've involved them more :-\

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-11-06 01:17am

Trytostaydead wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Also the shift in Smith was annoying, he was a calm character with some dry cool with in the first two, now he appeared as a madman.
Well, in the first movie at the end he showed that he was quite emotional when he was speaking to Morpheus and fighting with Neo.

But yes, I'm disappointed at how they emasculated the agents. They were the COOLESt characters in The Matrix and Reloaded. They should've involved them more :-\

He has one humourous line, and it was in all the previews.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2003-11-06 01:49am

More Smith is always good.. and there was more Smith here and anywhere else

And is it just me or did Smith seem as baffled by choice as the Architect was?

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2003-11-06 01:34pm

Well he is a computer program after all ie non human

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2003-11-06 02:43pm

I agree with you Gandalf. There are a lot of negative reviews of Revolutions and i cant understand it. Its not a perfect film but its a damn good one. I loved the fact that Neo was vulnerable again. Seeing him kick ass all through Reloaded was nice but there was no real sense of danger. Revolutions starts off with him in a coma, goes on with him unable to escape from the trainstation, getting kicked through the wall by the trainman, beaten up and permenently blinded by Bane, Trinity being killed, Smith kicking his ass and finally him sacrificing his own life (even if it implies he will be reincarnated). There was finally a danger to Neo that made him seem much more real than the Superman-Neo of Reloaded.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2003-11-06 02:56pm

zombie84 wrote: There was finally a danger to Neo that made him seem much more real than the Superman-Neo of Reloaded.

maybe that was the point of reloaded, for us to see neo as an unbeatable god... and then suddenly see him get his ass kicked, if we hadn't of seen him as the god like character, and it went straight from the matrix to a revolutions type plot... people would be screaming "COP OUT!!! I THOUGHT NEO WAS GOD LIKE etc etc..."

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-11-06 05:00pm

zombie84 wrote:I agree with you Gandalf. There are a lot of negative reviews of Revolutions and i cant understand it. Its not a perfect film but its a damn good one.

God, that movie sucked on so many levels... It utterly and completely destroyed a good movie, the first Matrix. 2 hours of my life I'll never get back...

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-11-06 05:06pm

Gandalf wrote: The defence of Zion was well done, the mechs doing well for their part, and the sense of desperation about it.

How the fuck can you say that? 99% of the sentinels did absolutely nothing but circle around getting shot at as the stupidity on all sides rolled on and on.

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2003-11-06 05:17pm

Why don't they just gas the damn place. I mean hello they are ROBOTS it's not like chemical/biological weapons would do shit to them. Well besides sprays of concentrated acid but even that could be shielded against.

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2003-11-06 09:25pm

Dahak wrote:God, that movie sucked on so many levels... It utterly and completely destroyed a good movie, the first Matrix. 2 hours of my life I'll never get back...

Exactly. And the bit I hated the most? The same thing I hated about so very many episodes of Voyager. The ending was, for the most part, the fucking "Reset Button"!!!

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2003-11-06 10:04pm

You know, Zion and Zionists were never a threat to the Matrix. The Matrix wiped out humanity at their peak performance and ability, Zionists survive on what the Matrix allows them to scavange and it's pretty apparent that they could destroy them at any time.

Perhaps the sentinels were a compromise. Something deadly enough (as in the suckas could withstand multiple hits with those large ass cannons), but not too deadly that they inadvertantly knock out The One. That, and on their attack on Zion is just shows the futilility of resistance. The Matrix obviously has far greater toys in its repetoire but just unleashes the sentinenals and that no matter how hard humanity fights.. well, they're fucked.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-11-07 12:57am

The Wachowskis need to let other people try their hands with the Matrixverse. The Animatrix had a lot of really great stuff on it (although it had a lot of crap, too). The three best shorts (IMO), the Watanabe shorts and Beyond, were the ones where the Wachowskis didn't have as much creative control.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-11-07 01:20am

I liked the Neo story arc, and hated the Zion defence part. The open cockpits pissed me off too much, I couldn't get over it. Out of 10? 7.

septesix · Post by **septesix** » 2003-11-07 05:06am

Psycho Smiley wrote:
Dahak wrote:God, that movie sucked on so many levels... It utterly and completely destroyed a good movie, the first Matrix. 2 hours of my life I'll never get back...
Exactly. And the bit I hated the most? The same thing I hated about so very many episodes of Voyager. The ending was, for the most part, the fucking "Reset Button"!!!

I don't find it so bad.

The end , especially, is NOT a reset button. Things are NOT the same as before. There's is peace , for the moment , between human and machines now. The cycle of The One has been broken. People now have the choice to leave the Matrix freely....How is that a "resent button" ending?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-11-07 09:37am

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JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-11-07 10:41am

Trytostaydead wrote:You know, Zion and Zionists were never a threat to the Matrix. The Matrix wiped out humanity at their peak performance and ability, Zionists survive on what the Matrix allows them to scavange and it's pretty apparent that they could destroy them at any time.

Perhaps the sentinels were a compromise. Something deadly enough (as in the suckas could withstand multiple hits with those large ass cannons), but not too deadly that they inadvertantly knock out The One. That, and on their attack on Zion is just shows the futilility of resistance. The Matrix obviously has far greater toys in its repetoire but just unleashes the sentinenals and that no matter how hard humanity fights.. well, they're fucked.

Yeah, it was only with the emergence of the new One and his abilities that the Machines realized that in the long-run there could be trouble. Better to erradicate the pest now and get it over with.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-11-07 10:43am

Psycho Smiley wrote:
Dahak wrote:God, that movie sucked on so many levels... It utterly and completely destroyed a good movie, the first Matrix. 2 hours of my life I'll never get back...
Exactly. And the bit I hated the most? The same thing I hated about so very many episodes of Voyager. The ending was, for the most part, the fucking "Reset Button"!!!

Yeah, that bothered me too. But then again, unlike Voyager, it is a computer porgram so it does work, however annoying it is.

Omega-13 · Post by **Omega-13** » 2003-11-07 01:11pm

What I didn't like was the fact that the drill was just.... A DRILL
as soon as it came through the roof of the docks, and it was falling, why couldn't the machines have had a 25 mt hydrogen bomb in there, detonate it, or a neutron bomb, etc.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2003-11-07 05:05pm

I REALLY liked Revolutions, but the battle for Zion, no matter how cool, was really ruined by so POOR planning on the droids part.

ShinjiGohan · Post by **ShinjiGohan** » 2003-11-09 06:20am

Omega-13 wrote:What I didn't like was the fact that the drill was just.... A DRILL
as soon as it came through the roof of the docks, and it was falling, why couldn't the machines have had a 25 mt hydrogen bomb in there, detonate it, or a neutron bomb, etc.

Well the Drill still had 2 parts to it, so it isn't like it stayed in the first form for the entire movie.

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