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Same scenario as the other Dutch VS thread. I figured it makes sense as it was shown (IIRC) that grenade launchers can fuck it up, and the humans have good armaments, the T-1000 has good camo.

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Why do we need two threads for this?
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All the grenade laucher did was blast it's center of gravity backward so that it fell. It did not permanantly damage it.
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WEll, without a way to destroy the nanos, such as an acid bath or molten steel, they not gonna stop it.
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NecronLord wrote:All the grenade laucher did was blast it's center of gravity backward so that it fell. It did not permanantly damage it.
There could have been some damage from the explosion's shock.

Didn't the Ultimate Edition show that the T-1000 could suffer damage from too much small arms fire?
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NecronLord wrote:All the grenade laucher did was blast it's center of gravity backward so that it fell. It did not permanantly damage it.
There could have been some damage from the explosion's shock.

Didn't the Ultimate Edition show that the T-1000 could suffer damage from too much small arms fire?
No. It slows it down, nothing more. Freezing and shattering disturbed it greatly though.
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Same scenario as the other Dutch VS thread. I figured it makes sense as it was shown (IIRC) that grenade launchers can fuck it up, and the humans have good armaments, the T-1000 has good camo.
Didn't fuck it up too bad, remember it completely reformed itself and morphed multiple times while it was *in* the steel.
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Dutch and his team of boyscouts will have no way to disrupt the molecular coding of the polymemetic alloy. It will keep reforming and reforming, and reforming.

Does the t-1000 even have a weapon? If it does, what is stopping it from shooting at the team? They will be ducking for cover like any HUMAN would
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In the novelization for T2, it was explained that it was simply too much shock, too much damage, too many forced reformations that finally brought down the T-1000. It would not have recovered even if it did not fall into the molten steel.
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Darth Wong wrote:In the novelization for T2, it was explained that it was simply too much shock, too much damage, too many forced reformations that finally brought down the T-1000. It would not have recovered even if it did not fall into the molten steel.
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Darth Wong wrote:In the novelization for T2, it was explained that it was simply too much shock, too much damage, too many forced reformations that finally brought down the T-1000. It would not have recovered even if it did not fall into the molten steel.
It pretty clearly did reform into a human shape after being blown into the steel. Though it didn't seem to be able to control the ability and then melted.
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Darth Wong wrote:In the novelization for T2, it was explained that it was simply too much shock, too much damage, too many forced reformations that finally brought down the T-1000. It would not have recovered even if it did not fall into the molten steel.
It pretty clearly did reform into a human shape after being blown into the steel. Though it didn't seem to be able to control the ability and then melted.
the extreme energy from the lava could have short circuited it, in a sense...since it is molecularly controlled, all the heat energy could have messed it up bad
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Omega-13 wrote:
the extreme energy from the lava could have short circuited it, in a sense...since it is molecularly controlled, all the heat energy could have messed it up bad
No need. It was made of metal, and it went in a smelting pit. Nuff said.
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Darth Wong wrote:In the novelization for T2, it was explained that it was simply too much shock, too much damage, too many forced reformations that finally brought down the T-1000. It would not have recovered even if it did not fall into the molten steel.
Now the T-X on the other hand... metal endoskeleton under the liquid metal, inbuild plasma gun/flamethrower, even stronger, basically unstoppable. That'd be a slaughter.
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Small arms fire and grenades? I think you're gonna have to do better than that to stop a T-1000. If he has a gun it's over; he can stroll out into the middle of the battlefield and laugh as their bullets blow through him and he reforms, and calmly take them out one by one. Even without a gun, his stabby arms'll do the trick.

This one doesn't look good for dutch group.
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Darth Garden Gnome wrote:Small arms fire and grenades? I think you're gonna have to do better than that to stop a T-1000. If he has a gun it's over; he can stroll out into the middle of the battlefield and laugh as their bullets blow through him and he reforms, and calmly take them out one by one. Even without a gun, his stabby arms'll do the trick.

This one doesn't look good for dutch group.
Actually, T-1000 is incapable of action when being hit with substantial small-arms fire, which is how Arnold briefly incapacitated him prior to the crash of the liquid nitrogen tanker truck (he climbed onto the hood of the truck and unloaded a mag into him). Therefore, a well-planned assault would involve incapacitating him with a barrage of small-arms fire and then lobbing explosives onto him.

A well-planned ambush with prior intel could take down the T-1000, although a chance meeting would obviously not go so well.
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Darth Wong wrote:A well-planned ambush with prior intel could take down the T-1000, although a chance meeting would obviously not go so well.
I see your point. But T-1000 can be one of stealth. You know, transforming himself into the shape of a plant or something (he can do that right? I'm pretty sure if he touches something he can shape himself to look like it), and when they are off-guard or what not he can strike.

Catching somebody alone, killing them, taking their appearence could present possiblities as well.

I suppose it would depend on whether or not T-1000 gets spotted before its too late.
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HIt him with a few 7.62 rounds, put him on his ass, then throw a phosphorus grenade, ,and its all over
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Omega-13 wrote:HIt him with a few 7.62 rounds, put him on his ass, then throw a phosphorus grenade, ,and its all over
Thermite + T1000 = puddle.
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That assumes they have either, unless they where shown don't expect it.

They might have phosphorus smoke grenades, but those don’t explode. Thermite isn't recent very much now a days. C4 is better for demolitions while it's been replaced with other substances in aircraft weapons.
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Darth Wong wrote:In the novelization for T2, it was explained that it was simply too much shock, too much damage, too many forced reformations that finally brought down the T-1000. It would not have recovered even if it did not fall into the molten steel.
Not in the copy I've got.
The T-1000 took the round directly in the belly. The grenade exploded inside its body. A huge hole drilled clean through it, and ripped it's torso open, peeling back, half inside out.
It's center of gravity radically shifted, the T-1000 toppled off the edge into the molten steel.
I think you're thinking of the bit where it's extremities turn into what they touch, it could still partially function even then.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:That assumes they have either, unless they where shown don't expect it.

They might have phosphorus smoke grenades, but those don’t explode. Thermite isn't recent very much now a days. C4 is better for demolitions while it's been replaced with other substances in aircraft weapons.
For thermite, what the good gentlemen in the jungle would need is to find out that the rebels had recently raided a railroad repair depot. Thermite is used to weld rails together in the field: ignite the powder while it's in a crucible-like container and pour a stream of molten iron into some framing set up around the planned connection.

A satchel charge made of a few kilograms of thermite powder surrounding a white phosporous grenade would probably irritate the T1000 to no end.
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Patrick Ogaard wrote:
For thermite, what the good gentlemen in the jungle would need is to find out that the rebels had recently raided a railroad repair depot. Thermite is used to weld rails together in the field: ignite the powder while it's in a crucible-like container and pour a stream of molten iron into some framing set up around the planned connection.
Central America isn't known for its railways, and those that do exist are in very poor condition or totally out of service. Finding Thermite via that method isn't took likely.
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The T-1000 has the unique advantage of being able to assassinate a member of the team, then inflitrate the team under the guise of the dead member.

It would be tactically unwise for the T-1000 to attack the team in the manner that they are most able to defend against.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Omega-13 wrote:HIt him with a few 7.62 rounds, put him on his ass, then throw a phosphorus grenade, ,and its all over
Thermite + T1000 = puddle.
How powerful is this thermite?
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