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Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Well, he's been in it how long?
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
since the Early 90's.....he's had a good long run, and we should be happy with all the quality animation he's helped us have over the past two decades or so.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Damn. That means I need a new landlord. Still, I guess after doing DCAU for 20 years (and doing it brilliantly) the Timmster deserves the chance to do his own stuff. Thanks for many enjoyable hours, Mr Timm.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
A shame really. Even after the end of the DCAU, he still put out some great material. The most recent Green Lantern and Young Justice series' were a good example. They felt like something that had the potential to maybe turn into a new DCAU for a new generation of kids, but sadly Cartoon Network wanted to go in a "different direction." With Timm leaving, I have a sneaking suspicion that it will be a long time before we see a DC animated series of equal quality to those.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Young Justice wasn't Timm's idea, it came from Gregg weissman, of Gargoyles fame - and yes, it was one of the better series I've seen since JLU went off the air.
But instead we get "Teen Titans Go" - a episodic roommate comedy..... -sighs-
But instead we get "Teen Titans Go" - a episodic roommate comedy..... -sighs-
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
I saw someone mention somewhere (I think it was SB.com) that Cartoon Network is shifting its focus away from cartoons that show anything remotely resembling serious drama or even the kid-oriented superhero action shit like Ben 10 to focus on, and I quote, "the adult swim stoner demographic." I really hope this isn't true, not just because they occasionally make a show that I enjoy, but also because CN seems to be the last place that Kids can actually watch a decent-sized block of cartoons these days.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Yeah, I don't think Timm was involved in YJ or GLTAS; I think most of his work these days was those DCU animated movies.
What you said about Cartoon Network wouldn't really surprise me, though. I guess they're trying to out-Nick Nickelodeon or something.
Well, Beware the Batman seems to be a more serious type of superhero cartoon; according to Wikipedia they even had to tone down some of it, so it could be good, maybe. Depends on how much executive meddling they wind up suffering and what it does to the final product.Darksider wrote:I saw someone mention somewhere (I think it was SB.com) that Cartoon Network is shifting its focus away from cartoons that show anything remotely resembling serious drama or even the kid-oriented superhero action shit like Ben 10 to focus on, and I quote, "the adult swim stoner demographic." I really hope this isn't true, not just because they occasionally make a show that I enjoy, but also because CN seems to be the last place that Kids can actually watch a decent-sized block of cartoons these days.
What you said about Cartoon Network wouldn't really surprise me, though. I guess they're trying to out-Nick Nickelodeon or something.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
I'd have to check them to be sure, but I do think I saw Bruce Timm's name show up in the GLTAS credits pretty regularly.
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'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Huh. Well, IMDb has him as executive producer, but only on 11 episodes. Don't know what to make of that, but guess he did have some form of involvement.
EDIT: And the article has been updated. He's still at WB, just stepped down from doing the DCU stuff.
EDIT: And the article has been updated. He's still at WB, just stepped down from doing the DCU stuff.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Oh great. That means I can stay but he'll probably be jacking up the rent, what with my being DC discount gone.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
After 20 years of DC stuff, part of me would be interested in seeing him tackle Marvel Animation.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
That is indeed an interesting question. I personally feel 'The Avengers:Earth's Mightiest Heroes' was pretty damned close to Timmverse level already (and whose brilliant idea was it to shut this down after two seasons?) and I'd like to see what happens when Timm's actually in charge.
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'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
The same people it usually is, marketing. After the Avengers movie came out and made twenty billion dollars they wanted a show that reflected the line-up in the film to draw in more viewers.Batman wrote:and whose brilliant idea was it to shut this down after two seasons?
Which sucks because it left the Surtur plotline completely hanging.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Yeah. I mean having several iterations of the same universe going on parallel is completely unprecedented, especially in Marvel. It's not like they had the Ultimate Universe or something.
DC manages to
DC manages to
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'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Yeah. I mean having several iterations of the same universe going on parallel is completely unprecedented, especially in Marvel. It's not like they had the Ultimate Universe or something.
DC manages to make money (mostly) off live action movies that largely ignore each other, animated movies that largely ignore each other and the established Timmverse...but yeah, terminating a seriously successful animated series on the off chance that it might interfere with your live action movie sales is obviously way to go.
DC manages to make money (mostly) off live action movies that largely ignore each other, animated movies that largely ignore each other and the established Timmverse...but yeah, terminating a seriously successful animated series on the off chance that it might interfere with your live action movie sales is obviously way to go.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Fuck. Double post, wandering mod please fix, pretty please?
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
I lemented about this in another thread, but it is worth repeating.DarkSilver wrote:Young Justice wasn't Timm's idea, it came from Gregg weissman, of Gargoyles fame - and yes, it was one of the better series I've seen since JLU went off the air.
But instead we get "Teen Titans Go" - a episodic roommate comedy..... -sighs-
"Young Justice" was far and away some of the BEST DC work in years. Right from the start it broke with the "bad guy of the week" formula and hinted at a large over arching plot and story. It had growth, changes, very very good stroy telling and very fine animation style.
The end of season two was incredable and left SO many things hanging that it came as a shock to me when I heard the show was pulled.
That they are replacing it with an overly cartoony "Teen Titans" makes my belly churn and brain hurt in SO many ways. The description for one ep I heard rumored to be along the lines of "Find out what happens when Robin is caught speeding in the Batmobile and has to go to driving school!!"
I kid you not.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Heh, none of which is surprising given it was being helmed by Greg 'I did Gargoyles' Weisman.Crossroads Inc. wrote:"Young Justice" was far and away some of the BEST DC work in years. Right from the start it broke with the "bad guy of the week" formula and hinted at a large over arching plot and story. It had growth, changes, very very good stroy telling and very fine animation style.
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Maybe WB has wisened up and put him in charge of the DC movies.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
You know, I'm still hoping we'll get a live-action Batman Beyond one of these days.Havok wrote:Maybe WB has wisened up and put him in charge of the DC movies.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
That seems to kind of be Christopher Nolan's job now.Havok wrote:Maybe WB has wisened up and put him in charge of the DC movies.
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Maybe Nolan could hire Timm as a consultant.The Romulan Republic wrote:That seems to kind of be Christopher Nolan's job now.Havok wrote:Maybe WB has wisened up and put him in charge of the DC movies.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Shame really. He was a damn good storyteller even if I didn't always like the direction he went in.
Greg Weismann is working on beware the batman, actually. He's a freelance writer apparently. They did tone down the guns to make them look less realistic, but apparently that was a result to the whole aurora shooting, so I'm more willing to forgive that. Teen Titans Go looks stupid. Teen titans wasn't the best show, but when it stopped focusing on stupid humor and focused on the plot, it could actually be compelling. Raven's destiny and the titan's attempt to avert the prophecy of destruction, as well as Terra's arc were genuinely compelling story lines. Now they're abandoning the one thing that made the show watchable and focusing on the juevinille bullshit.
As for Avengers, from what I heard they're flip flopping over whether it's a continuation or not. Hopefully they might have a line or two explaining what happened. Jeph Loeb did screw things up by focusing on singular stand alone episodes, but in all honesty, that isn't what left the Surtur arc hanging. Yost said that season 3 was the "magic" one and I'm guessing that Surtur was probably slated as the big bad of the season after (like the skrulls and kree were back in 1), or one of them anyway.
Greg Weismann is working on beware the batman, actually. He's a freelance writer apparently. They did tone down the guns to make them look less realistic, but apparently that was a result to the whole aurora shooting, so I'm more willing to forgive that. Teen Titans Go looks stupid. Teen titans wasn't the best show, but when it stopped focusing on stupid humor and focused on the plot, it could actually be compelling. Raven's destiny and the titan's attempt to avert the prophecy of destruction, as well as Terra's arc were genuinely compelling story lines. Now they're abandoning the one thing that made the show watchable and focusing on the juevinille bullshit.
As for Avengers, from what I heard they're flip flopping over whether it's a continuation or not. Hopefully they might have a line or two explaining what happened. Jeph Loeb did screw things up by focusing on singular stand alone episodes, but in all honesty, that isn't what left the Surtur arc hanging. Yost said that season 3 was the "magic" one and I'm guessing that Surtur was probably slated as the big bad of the season after (like the skrulls and kree were back in 1), or one of them anyway.
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Re: Bruce Timm Steps Down from WB Animation
Why not? It would probably make a lot of fans happy.JME2 wrote:Maybe Nolan could hire Timm as a consultant.The Romulan Republic wrote:That seems to kind of be Christopher Nolan's job now.Havok wrote:Maybe WB has wisened up and put him in charge of the DC movies.
But does Timm have any experience working on live action films?