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Post by dragon » 2008-08-08 10:20am

According to Various places Beta are the strongest sane type of psyker that the Imperium uses. Alpha classes tends to be insane however was wondering about Alpha+ and beyond. According to 4th edition A+ are beings capable of tearing a titan in half type stuff with levels beyond reserved for gods and such.

What are some of the examples of A+? Would that be like the demon in the last part of the Ultramarines book where it wiped out an entire army by itself? Are there any examples of the beyond abilities.
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Post by NecronLord » 2008-08-08 10:44am

dragon wrote:According to Various places Beta are the strongest sane type of psyker that the Imperium uses.
This is not actually true. What's true is that power and stability are generally inversely correlated. Of course, for vs debate purpouses, there was at least one machine found, that the Emperor built, that turned normal humans into stable A+ or beyonds.
Alpha classes tends to be insane however was wondering about Alpha+ and beyond. According to 4th edition A+ are beings capable of tearing a titan in half type stuff with levels beyond reserved for gods and such.
There is more than A+, before one is 'speculated to not need a physical form at all.' The Inquisition background book has it in, but I didn't buy that book, because it's shit. It goes B>A>A+>B+>C+ and so on. A+ is about the top level that's even vaguely common.
What are some of the examples of A+? Would that be like the demon in the last part of the Ultramarines book where it wiped out an entire army by itself? Are there any examples of the beyond abilities.
Demons are something else. There's the 'Apex Twins'

Malcador the Siggilite would be an example of a stable human beyond A+ somewhere.
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Re: WH40k Psykers

Post by His Divine Shadow » 2008-08-08 11:14am

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dragon wrote:According to Various places Beta are the strongest sane type of psyker that the Imperium uses.
This is not actually true. What's true is that power and stability are generally inversely correlated. Of course, for vs debate purpouses, there was at least one machine found, that the Emperor built, that turned normal humans into stable A+ or beyonds.
Is there a story or book on this somewhere?
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Post by Darth Hoth » 2008-08-08 11:14am

NecronLord wrote:There's the 'Apex Twins'
If you do not want to search, in essence two little girls hundreds of years old who killed a Black Ship, an Inquisition citadel and a number of Inquisitors since sent out to apprehend them. (Right?)
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Post by NecronLord » 2008-08-08 11:39am

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dragon wrote:According to Various places Beta are the strongest sane type of psyker that the Imperium uses.
This is not actually true. What's true is that power and stability are generally inversely correlated. Of course, for vs debate purpouses, there was at least one machine found, that the Emperor built, that turned normal humans into stable A+ or beyonds.
Is there a story or book on this somewhere?
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Re: WH40k Psykers

Post by NecronLord » 2008-08-08 11:41am

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NecronLord wrote:There's the 'Apex Twins'
If you do not want to search, in essence two little girls hundreds of years old who killed a Black Ship, an Inquisition citadel and a number of Inquisitors since sent out to apprehend them. (Right?)
Yep. Two small girls. Who broke out of Nemesis Tessera.

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Post by Ford Prefect » 2008-08-08 06:57pm

NecronLord wrote: Yep. Two small girls. Who broke out of Nemesis Tessera.
And just to clarify, when they broke out of Nemesis Tessera, they were still actually children, as opposed to just looking like cute, harmless little girls who just want to play in your dismembered body parts.
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Post by Connor MacLeod » 2008-08-08 10:53pm

NecronLord wrote: Malcador the Siggilite would be an example of a stable human beyond A+ somewhere.
The Inquisition in some 40K short story compilation recruited (and saved from some DAoT era dreadnought-man) some psyker who was thought/believed to be some sort of mini-Emperor (another Sigilite?) - I imagine that applies as well.

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Warped Stars by Ian Watson. He was obviously pretty high level, yeah.
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Post by Shroom Man 777 » 2008-08-09 12:59pm

Fuck... Commodus Volke was able to apprehend the Apex Twins? Holy shit, he must've been a badass!

That must mean that daemonhosts, like whatshisface from Eisenhorn, must be supremely badass!
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Post by The Grim Squeaker » 2008-08-09 01:41pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fuck... Commodus Volke was able to apprehend the Apex Twins? Holy shit, he must've been a badass!

That must mean that daemonhosts, like whatshisface from Eisenhorn, must be supremely badass!
He caught them and 31 OTHER Psykers. (Including trained Alphas). In a war.

I would Really like to hear the story behind that. (It was never explained, only told to Eisenhorn as "An amazing story of extraordinary heroism").
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Post by Tyrian2000 » 2008-08-09 01:45pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote:That must mean that daemonhosts, like whatshisface from Eisenhorn, must be supremely badass!
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Post by Peptuck » 2008-08-09 04:31pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fuck... Commodus Volke was able to apprehend the Apex Twins? Holy shit, he must've been a badass!
It really is a shame Voke and Yarrick never teamed up. If those two were paired up to fight the legions of Chaos, Abbaddon would never even poke his face out of the Eye.
That must mean that daemonhosts, like whatshisface from Eisenhorn, must be supremely badass!
Cherubael bitch-slapped a Warhound. And later on (I haven't finished Hereticus yet, so I'm probably wrong on this) I think he throws someone into orbit.
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Post by Imperial Overlord » 2008-08-09 04:40pm

IIRC Volke lead several other inquisitors in that effort.

Cherubael obliterated a Warlord, not a Warhound. The lack of void shields undoubtedly helped.
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Post by Black Admiral » 2008-08-09 04:41pm

Peptuck wrote:Cherubael bitch-slapped a Warhound.
No, he didn't.

Cherubael vaporised the entire upper body of a Heavy Warlord-class Battle Titan (it's possible to argue he blew up the plasma reactors, but I don't think so - didn't act like any of the seen plasma reactor explosions).
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