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David Cameron says he will resign as prime minister and Conservative leade by the next Conservative conference,, so the leadership race for the next leader (and PM) is on. Discuss.
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Well it'll be Boris Johnson. I can't think of anyone else who might be in the running?

Gove? Theresa May?
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Crazedwraith wrote:Well it'll be Boris Johnson. I can't think of anyone else who might be in the running?

Gove? Theresa May?
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My money would be on Boris Johnson as party leader and Gove as his #2

pretty much how they ran the leave side for Brexit
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What do you mean by #2? Chancellor?
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Maybe not chancellor as Gove has never struck me as a "money man" but deputy party leader for sure.

If they are confident in his economy handling skills it will be a relationship like Cameron and Osborne. If not then Like Cameron and Clegg, but without the seemingly abusive relationship.
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There is no deputy party leader in the conservative party.
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Yeah, it's usually a PM and Chancellor "ticket"

Given her complete lack of visbility in the recent campaign, I'd say May would be a strong possibility. Not as odeous as Gove, anyway. I know she's not popular with some people due to her surveillance shenanigans, but is that going to influence the 1922 committee?
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Boris is not standing after all.
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Tories giving a masterclass in how to keep someone you don't want off the ballot. I expect there are a lot of Labour MPS who wish they were as accomplished at the same...

It will probably be May and Gove on the ballot that goes out to party members with May as the eventual winner. Crabb doesn't have the profile (although his background will appeal to a lot of Tory voters who are fed up of the Bullingdon set running everything) and his religiosity is actually off-putting to the UK electorate rather than the vote-winner it would be in the states.
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Corbyn very nearly was kept off the ballot, so I wouldn't call labour too unaccomplished at that.
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Submissions have closed now. The line up of possible prime ministers are Liam Fox, Michael Gove, Stephen Crabb, Andrea Leadsom and Theresa May.
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All horrific choices.
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The Xeelee wrote:All horrific choices.
Could you explain why? To those of us whose primary information it the BBC articles which are strongly neutral on all the choices (with a slight positive slant for May).
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I can't comment on the rest, but Michael Gove is the Leave campaigner who gave us the infamous "I tihnk people are tired of listening to experts" line. That alone makes him a pretty poor choice if he genuinely thinks that. If he thought it was what people wanted to hear, then it's pretty poor judgement as well.
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jwl wrote:Corbyn very nearly was kept off the ballot, so I wouldn't call labour too unaccomplished at that.
Do you mean this time or last year? Because originally he got on the ballot with votes of people who didn't want him. They just wanted the left represented for appearences' sake.

Which rather shot themselves in the foot.
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Crazedwraith wrote:Which rather shot themselves in the foot.
If you'd said this a year ago I would have agreed with you. The events of the last few days are beginning to suggest that the actual target was the other end of the Labour body.
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Gove also once spent lots of time and effort trying to get schools to accept copies of the Bible specially printed by some charity he was a patron of... for which he had written a foreword.
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The Xeelee wrote:All horrific choices.
Could you explain why? To those of us whose primary information it the BBC articles which are strongly neutral on all the choices (with a slight positive slant for May).
May has csmpaigned for more sweeping police powers and access to private information. I seem to recall her actually saying "if you are innocent than why would you want to hide?" I gave up on her years ago when she spent an interview refusing to accept differences between a household budget and the economy. It was the preffered metaphor for aussterity at the time.
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Crazedwraith wrote:
jwl wrote:Corbyn very nearly was kept off the ballot, so I wouldn't call labour too unaccomplished at that.
Do you mean this time or last year? Because originally he got on the ballot with votes of people who didn't want him. They just wanted the left represented for appearences' sake.

Which rather shot themselves in the foot.
Yea that is what I was talking about. And yes, some who nominated him did express regret for doing so, since they had nominated him for that very reason. And all things equal, that would have made the difference, given he only went over the line with a single nomination at the last minute. Notably however, John Prescott, the ringleader for this, did not express regret: he was glad the membership got a "hard-left" opinion, even if it meant his preferred Andy Burnham didn't get the job.

Of course with the Tories someone the equivalent of Corbyn would have been out automatically, since there are only two slots and they aren't going to waste one of them on someone they didn't really believe in to start with.
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What a freak show. Sorry.

Almost too bad Boris gave up, he'd fit into that crowd perfectly.
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Boris should run for labour instead, I think the PLP would welcome him with open arms. Finally a labour politician with sensible opinions they'd say.
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Gove has predictably not done well as a leadership hopeful.

Looks like the choice will be between Theresa May and Angela Leadstrom.

May will likely win on account of people having heard of her ever.
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Vendetta wrote:Gove has predictably not done well as a leadership hopeful.

Looks like the choice will be between Theresa May and Angela Leadstrom.

May will likely win on account of people having heard of her ever.
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