(Spoilers) The new Battlestar Galatica

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-08-19 04:44pm

I'll just re-post what I wrote on another message board after seeing one of the trailers:

I wrote: Well, I was looking forward to this show quite a bit up to this point, but judging by the trailer it seems to just be yet another overly melodramatic stick-up-ass space opera, in which lightbulbs are apparently a scarce commodity and there's some sort of law against anyone ever cracking a smile.

Also, that whole "aliens that can make them selves look like us" schtick is really starting to wear thin. Has there been any sci-fi show in the last ten years that hasn't used that tired old plot device?

And I'm also sick of the musical scores for ever science fiction show out there just trying to immitate John Williams. I mean, big dramatic orchestra music works alright, but some variety would really go a long way.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-08-20 05:22am

They've excised so much of what made Battlestar Galactica Battlestar Galactica that they may as well have not even bothered calling this misbegotten project Battlestar Galactica in the first place.

Bet we won't even get Patrick MacNee doing tne opening narration...

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-20 12:05pm

Patrick Degan wrote:They've excised so much of what made Battlestar Galactica Battlestar Galactica that they may as well have not even bothered calling this misbegotten project Battlestar Galactica in the first place.

Bet we won't even get Patrick MacNee doing tne opening narration...

Ok, now that would piss me off. They should keep the intro and the music.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-08-20 12:10pm

Stormbringer wrote:
They're going to for the basement dwelling, horny moron, virgin-loser-fanboy demographic. In short, lowest common demoninator sci-fi.

I'll probably like it then.

Although, I don't really have a basement. I do spend most of my time in my second room, which my mom likes to call my basement/dugeon. I sleep in the "loft" over it soooo I proabably still qualify.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-08-20 12:14pm

Knife wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:They've excised so much of what made Battlestar Galactica Battlestar Galactica that they may as well have not even bothered calling this misbegotten project Battlestar Galactica in the first place.

Bet we won't even get Patrick MacNee doing tne opening narration...
Ok, now that would piss me off. They should keep the intro and the music.

They definately need to keep the opening theme, even if it was trying to rip-off Star Wars. It kicked (kicks) ass.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-20 12:26pm

Tsyroc wrote:
Knife wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:They've excised so much of what made Battlestar Galactica Battlestar Galactica that they may as well have not even bothered calling this misbegotten project Battlestar Galactica in the first place.

Bet we won't even get Patrick MacNee doing tne opening narration...
Ok, now that would piss me off. They should keep the intro and the music.
They definately need to keep the opening theme, even if it was trying to rip-off Star Wars. It kicked (kicks) ass.

I don't even care if they revamp it alittle with a new orchrestra(sp?) but the theme and the general song should stay.

And since my TV room is in the basement, I guess I'll go there to watch.

XANATOS · Post by **XANATOS** » 2003-08-20 11:54pm

RON MOORE
has done a butcher job on galactica
just as he helped to do on star trek

dont believe me look at the record

1 pushed captin kirk off a mountain
for this alone he should be nailed to
a cross and his seed burned from the
earth

2 and most of the episodes of sttng

its time for sfi fans to stop
accepting what ever shit the networks
put on the air
and just stop watching

within 5 years i predict there will be
a remake of the original star trek
with new actors and new scripts
wrote along the lines of sttng

XANATOS

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-21 02:37am

Tsyroc wrote:
Knife wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:They've excised so much of what made Battlestar Galactica Battlestar Galactica that they may as well have not even bothered calling this misbegotten project Battlestar Galactica in the first place.

Bet we won't even get Patrick MacNee doing tne opening narration...
Ok, now that would piss me off. They should keep the intro and the music.
They definately need to keep the opening theme, even if it was trying to rip-off Star Wars. It kicked (kicks) ass.

The BSG main theme has nothing in common with the SW main theme, other that it used instruments...

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-21 03:05am

XANATOS wrote:RON MOORE
has done a butcher job on galactica
just as he helped to do on star trek

dont believe me look at the record

1 pushed captin kirk off a mountain
for this alone he should be nailed to
a cross and his seed burned from the
earth

2 and most of the episodes of sttng

its time for sfi fans to stop
accepting what ever shit the networks
put on the air
and just stop watching

within 5 years i predict there will be
a remake of the original star trek
with new actors and new scripts
wrote along the lines of sttng

XANATOS

No matter how much you hate it before you watch it, I am still going to check it out. If it sucks, I will join you in demolishing it. If not, I'll be content and watch it again.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-08-21 11:58am

StarshipTitanic wrote: The BSG main theme has nothing in common with the SW main theme, other that it used instruments...

That would have been a little less smart assed and probably more accurate if you said they both used an orchestra or symphony. It's not like one used a marching band and the other had a guy playing the jug accompanied by someone on spoons.

I will say that I overstated things when I said rip-off but I do think the style is similar and that they were mostly trying to evoke the same sort of feelings. Given the popularity of Star Wars when Galactica was being put together I don't see why they wouldn't be inspired by the popularity of the Star Wars soundtrack and shoot for something in the same ballpark. In my opinion they did. I actually like the opening 45 seconds for Galactica more than the SW begining but I like the complete SW theme better.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-08-21 04:43pm

Tsyroc wrote:
StarshipTitanic wrote: The BSG main theme has nothing in common with the SW main theme, other that it used instruments...
That would have been a little less smart assed and probably more accurate if you said they both used an orchestra or symphony. It's not like one used a marching band and the other had a guy playing the jug accompanied by someone on spoons.

I will say that I overstated things when I said rip-off but I do think the style is similar and that they were mostly trying to evoke the same sort of feelings. Given the popularity of Star Wars when Galactica was being put together I don't see why they wouldn't be inspired by the popularity of the Star Wars soundtrack and shoot for something in the same ballpark. In my opinion they did. I actually like the opening 45 seconds for Galactica more than the SW begining but I like the complete SW theme better.

Actually, the two songs couldn't be more different. SW is a brisk, uplifting martial tune, very broad and sweeping you into the music, and thus, the movie. SW brings to mind grand, vast spectacles of good over evil.
BSG's theme was slower, more melancholy. It fit very well with the idea that this is the last BattleStar, this is the last chance, the last hope. It was a melody about a fading culture, trying to survive. It was tragic, sad, moving, yet hopeful.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-08-22 12:10am

LadyTevar wrote: Actually, the two songs couldn't be more different. SW is a brisk, uplifting martial tune, very broad and sweeping you into the music, and thus, the movie. SW brings to mind grand, vast spectacles of good over evil.
BSG's theme was slower, more melancholy. It fit very well with the idea that this is the last BattleStar, this is the last chance, the last hope. It was a melody about a fading culture, trying to survive. It was tragic, sad, moving, yet hopeful.

Okay, I can appreciate that interpretation although I think that both pieces have openings that sweep you into the music.

I'm probablly linking the two more in my head because of opinions I made as a kid when they both came out.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-08-22 01:27pm

Tsyroc wrote: Okay, I can appreciate that interpretation although I think that both pieces have openings that sweep you into the music.

I'm probablly linking the two more in my head because of opinions I made as a kid when they both came out.

Well, you're right, they're both grand and sweeping, just in different moods

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-23 01:46am

Tsyroc wrote:
Okay, I can appreciate that interpretation although I think that both pieces have openings that sweep you into the music.

I disagree. Star Wars opens up with a huge burst of music. Battlestar Galactica starts off softly and slowly, then starts up a martial theme after which there is more soft and slow music, ending with the martial theme once more.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-08-23 04:00am

Hmm, should we get John Lourquette, and Dirk Benedict to play hotshot pilots of an earlier era.

(Seeing as They both started with Blacksheep squadron which got Benedict the starbuck role.)

Come to think of it Louquette could still do the rogue trader role in his sleep.

XANATOS · Post by **XANATOS** » 2003-08-26 01:54am

the reason the remake
is so unloved http://www.farsector.com/media/7_2003.htm
he says it better
than i ever could

XANATOS

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-08-26 02:12am

XANATOS wrote:the reason the remake
is so unloved http://www.farsector.com/media/7_2003.htm
he says it better
than i ever could

XANATOS

Yes, it's obviously trying to cash in on the BSG name but you could at least attempt to look at it as something different...

XANATOS · Post by **XANATOS** » 2003-08-26 02:54am

i will try
and i hope it is good
enough to stand on its own

but galactia fans have waited
25 years
and to be cast aside like this
really makes us pissed
after all if not for the fans
there would be know remake
well at least i hope it will
be good sf there is so little
being made after farscape
was killed
and i dont know what the hell happend to
andromeda it was such a great show
last year it almost made me
sick to watch

XANATOS

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2003-08-26 06:30pm

I didn't expect JMS quality writing, but I didn't expect the producers and writers to be channeling Berman and Braga either.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-08-26 06:36pm

Glocksman wrote:I didn't expect JMS quality writing, but I didn't expect the producers and writers to be channeling Berman and Braga either.

Why? This is Sci-fi Channel. They've lost any interest in making quality TV and are just after the pathetic fanboys.

CorSec · Post by **CorSec** » 2003-08-26 06:48pm

Glocksman wrote:I didn't expect JMS quality writing, but I didn't expect the producers and writers to be channeling Berman and Braga either.

I'm not expecting much either. I'm in a wait and see mode. Like recent Trek incarnations there will be some things to like, but they'll probably be overshadowed by the things that are to be reviled.

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