Darth Wong wrote:DarkStar wrote:As per the aforementioned Gothmog's commentary on the matter, "as the challenged party, I should, by tradition, set the terms and topic...", which you agreed with him about, in reference to a direct challenge case like this one.
And in which he used the condition as an excuse to run away even though everyone could see that I was kicking his ass. Badly.
Irrelevant . . . I am not Gothmog. I accepted your challenge, used your own stated preference to lay out terms, and you have refused the debate. This, of course, comes after all this time when I've been posting right under your nose, and you have failed to engage. That's why you now have to posture.
If you actually beat me, it won't matter how many insults I use; everyone will still know who won (and it won't be you).
Of course not. Oh, I'd win the points based on reason and evidence, but you'd throw up smokescreens, fling insults like a monkey throwing feces, and do all sorts of other low-brow bullshit. That's your definition of one-on-one debate, and those are the grounds upon which you would declare victory.
But you know that, don't you? That's why you don't want this debate, and you want to add all sorts of bullshit conditions.
I didn't add bullshit conditions, Mike.
I stated terms which would limit your ability to engage in bullshit. That's why you ran. I'm sure you must've noticed my reply to DG_Cal_Wright when he asked if the ground rules were designed to lend weight to my position:
"YES!!! With the evidence and facts as the primary focus (and not stupid flaming and Wong Way BS) the evidence, facts, arguments, and logic would have to take center stage, and could not be derailed."
So, you have refused to debate in a more proper fashion as per the guidelines set out by the challenged party, and have effectively re-issued a challenge wherein you demand that you be allowed to debate the Wong way.
No, I have issued a challenge with no conditions whatsoever.
. . . After running from an accepted challenge, where all you had to do was answer yes to the question "Do you think you can focus exclusively on the arguments and the evidence, and not the man?"
As Lord of the Farce has quite rightly stated, the purpose of a debate is to determine which belief has the strongest foundation in the evidence. However, it is clear that you're not interested in the evidence . . . otherwise saying 'no' and running away from a debate of the facts and evidence as you have done shouldn't have even crossed your mind.
OK, asshole. I'll make this simple. Debate me or I'll ban your worthless ass. You have 24 hours.
DarkStar: "If you had ever,
even once, led me to believe for a moment that you could refrain from such childish behavior in a debate against me, I'd tell you to bring it on."
Wong: "OK Darkstar, fine. I challenge you to one-on-one debate. Face me, you little dipshit."
DarkStar: " . . . if you really think you can keep a promise to maintain civility in a public forum, then let's get it on."
Wong: "Don't give me any of these bullshit conditions, you evasive little chickenshit."
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Gothmog: "Actually, as the challenged party, I should, by tradition, set the terms and topic without going through such a process as we are going through."
Wong: "If I had specifically addressed the challenge to you personally, that would be the case." )))
DarkStar: "So,
you have refused to debate in a more proper fashion as per the guidelines set out by the challenged party, and have effectively re-issued a challenge wherein you demand that you be allowed to debate the Wong way."
Wong: "No, I have issued a challenge with no conditions whatsoever." "Debate me or I'll ban your worthless ass."
Is that what this silly posturing of yours has been all about? Have we finally come to the crux of the issue? This thread was your attempt to test the waters and see how a banning of me would fly, but I've ended up with some surprise support, and a few votes in my favor, even on your loaded poll.
So, you challenge me to a debate, and then fail to follow your own stated beliefs, running away from an honest, evidence-based debate because that's your biggest fear. Having been caught in the act, you suddenly have to try to play off the fact that you're not just a pussy, but indeed a huge, gaping vagina. Then, the icing on the cake . . . you threaten to ban me. This is the only force you can apply in the situation . . . the only way you can hope to
make me acquiesce to a debate which has nothing to do with the issues, but everything to do with ego and audience.
I've already told you and everyone else a hundred times . . . I'm not interested in ego and audience . . . I'm here for the facts and evidence.
So, I'm afraid I have to reply with the following:
GO AHEAD AND BAN ME, YA BIG PUSSY.
