[STGOD 2] Nations and Military

[Sea Skimmer]

The Draconiss Republic putsss sssentient life at the top priority. For the natural universse isss the only one that we know exissstss. It iss the official possition of our government that a sssingle pair of clawsss working isss more effective than the handsss of all raccess classped in prayer.

Belief can give great strength and power, you would do well to remember that.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Devotion to a causse will give the sssame ssstrength.

[Alyrium Denryle]

And belief can alsso be the causse of much sssuffering.

[Thirdfain]

Gentlebeings, please- we are not here to allow discuss religeon. The hereafter must be considered, of course, and religeon must be debated- but is interstellar politics the place to meet in religeous debate?

Keep it in the universities and seminaries. Beings of action, such as ourselves, should busy ourselves with the pressing affairs of state. After all, we all have long retirements with which to spend considering our mortality.

That being said, I would like to return to the simple subject of the CPS.
-ooc-
My idea is simple- the CPS would be strictly human, because I would write it as if it had been in place for an extended period of time, forming first among the colonizing powers leaving the ruins of Earth. Entry would be open to alien species at a later date, of course, should they pass the simple three entrence requirements- the setting of minimal tariffs, the adopting of the CPS Credit as currency of choice for international trading, and the procurement of a majority vote of the CPS powers.

[Stravo]

The Draconiss Republic putsss sssentient life at the top priority. For the natural universse isss the only one that we know exissstss. It iss the official possition of our government that a sssingle pair of clawsss working isss more effective than the handsss of all raccess classped in prayer.

Belief can give great strength and power, you would do well to remember that.

If Humanity would believe in itself more and stop worshipping non existent deities then perhaps we would ascend to greater heights instead of trying to please things that cannot be placated. Why should glorious creatures such as ourselves who have evolved past the savage instincts of animals through the bright light of reason now chain ourselves to superstition. The divine IS man.

[Alyrium Denryle]

If the CPSS iss to be sstrictly human. The Draconiss Republic wishess to proposse a sssimilar alliancce between non-human powersss ssso that we may better compete with the humansss.

[Alyrium Denryle]

And what of our offer of alliancce between oursselvess and the Protectorate?

[Stravo]

And what of our offer of alliancce between oursselvess and the Protectorate?

The Protectorate will consider such a proposal. We are wary of being bound to any agreement that may interfere with the glorious mission of the Protectorate though we are intrigued by the similarities in our philosophies.

[Alyrium Denryle]

We note that we too are highly sskilled with genetic engineering, and we would both benifit greatly from ssuch cooperation.

[Sea Skimmer]

And belief can alsso be the causse of much sssuffering.

And devotion to a cause cannot? If anything it is worse.

[Pablo Sanchez]

If Humanity would believe in itself more and stop worshipping non existent deities then perhaps we would ascend to greater heights instead of trying to please things that cannot be placated. Why should glorious creatures such as ourselves who have evolved past the savage instincts of animals through the bright light of reason now chain ourselves to superstition. The divine IS man.

As we have said before, a man is a falliable creature, as are all beings from this world. Only in Allah can we find perfection.

[Brother-Captain Gaius]

Gentlebeings, please- we are not here to allow discuss religeon. The hereafter must be considered, of course, and religeon must be debated- but is interstellar politics the place to meet in religeous debate?

Keep it in the universities and seminaries. Beings of action, such as ourselves, should busy ourselves with the pressing affairs of state. After all, we all have long retirements with which to spend considering our mortality.

That being said, I would like to return to the simple subject of the CPS.
-ooc-
My idea is simple- the CPS would be strictly human, because I would write it as if it had been in place for an extended period of time, forming first among the colonizing powers leaving the ruins of Earth. Entry would be open to alien species at a later date, of course, should they pass the simple three entrence requirements- the setting of minimal tariffs, the adopting of the CPS Credit as currency of choice for international trading, and the procurement of a majority vote of the CPS powers.

The United Communist Sector would very much like to be a part of this trade agreement. We, for one, would like to strengthen the bond that is humanity, not squabble over petty differences.

[Thirdfain]

If the CPSS iss to be sstrictly human. The Draconiss Republic wishess to proposse a sssimilar alliancce between non-human powersss ssso that we may better compete with the humansss.

Read the exact post- the CPS will START out human, due to the fact that it was formed, following the ousting from the Sol System, by human powers before the discovery of multiple alien species.

All nations are open to entrence (after the STGOD has started), and the requirements for admission are simple.

Our nation is a member of the CPS, and a portion of our population is nonhuman, and the variety of Forms mean some of our people do not resemble the human norm.

[Alyrium Denryle]

OOC: I was roleplaying my delegate with that one, he didnt have that OOC knowledge, and hadnt gotten a response that was meaningful

[Alyrium Denryle]

Oh and Pablo...CHECK YOUR PMs!

[Thirdfain]

Oh, btw, Darksider, you brought up maintaining the old STGOD 1 alliances- I don't think that's a very good idea.

My Empire is very different from my previous one, in terms of makeup and philosophy, and may not find itself compatible with yours. Time will tell.

[Alyrium Denryle]

We made first contact with the TSC and have reasonably good relations, but not an alliance.

[Sea Skimmer]

Oh, btw, Darksider, you brought up maintaining the old STGOD 1 alliances- I don't think that's a very good idea.

My Empire is very different from my previous one, in terms of makeup and philosophy, and may not find itself compatible with yours. Time will tell.

Indeed. This is a completely separate universe with several new players and it appears every player's civilization has changed.

[Thirdfain]

TSC Views on Other Empires at STGOD start


Caliphate: The TSC's history with the Caliphate has been long and arduous, with a number of wars being fought between the two powers in the early days of the escape from Earth. Times have since changed, and the TSC now views the Caliphate as an economic rival, but not a real enemy- a full 4% of the TSC's population is Moslem.

United Communist Sector: The UCS is at ideological odds with the TSC in some ways, and closely aligned in others. The TSC views the UCS as a possible ally, and is heartened by the UCS's pragmatic views on international trade, but also sees communism as a political dead end.

Genengineer Protectorate Opinion is split throughout the TSC on the GP. Some find the GP's high-handed rhetoric, and talk of creating a "superior stage of evolution," supercillious and foolish. Others, citing the TSC's widespread usage of low-level genetic manipulation, say the GP may be on to something. One thing is certain- no man, woman, or child of the TSC would ever want to live under the GP's caste system.

The Hive Limited contact between the Hive and the Commonwealth measn the Hive is an unknown factor- something the CAF's strategists find disturbing.

Draconis Republic The Draconis Republic made first contact with the TSc in the early days of the unification. the tongue of the DR is spoken by many TSC citizens, and the Fel'Theh are regarded as a reasonable species. No alliances exists between the DR and the TSC at this time, but that may change at any time.

Several Limited contact between Several and the Commonwealth means it is an unknown factor.

The Guu The Guu's policy of forceably modifying captured prisoners make them pariah to the TSC, which has firm laws regarding the genetic or robotic modification of an unwilling subject. The Guu's actions will dictate the TSC's stance, but they will be viewed politely and coldly until they prove themselves.

The Federation of the Shadow The TSC fears the Federation in some ways, realising the massive industrial and military potential the Nerubian slave-caste gives the scythian ruling-caste. Never the less, the TSC is willing to presue friendly relations with the Federation.

[Darksider]

TSC Views on Other Empires at STGOD start


Caliphate: The TSC's history with the Caliphate has been long and arduous, with a number of wars being fought between the two powers in the early days of the escape from Earth. Times have since changed, and the TSC now views the Caliphate as an economic rival, but not a real enemy- a full 4% of the TSC's population is Moslem.

United Communist Sector: The UCS is at ideological odds with the TSC in some ways, and closely aligned in others. The TSC views the UCS as a possible ally, and is heartened by the UCS's pragmatic views on international trade, but also sees communism as a political dead end.

Genengineer Protectorate Opinion is split throughout the TSC on the GP. Some find the GP's high-handed rhetoric, and talk of creating a "superior stage of evolution," supercillious and foolish. Others, citing the TSC's widespread usage of low-level genetic manipulation, say the GP may be on to something. One thing is certain- no man, woman, or child of the TSC would ever want to live under the GP's caste system.

The Hive Limited contact between the Hive and the Commonwealth measn the Hive is an unknown factor- something the CAF's strategists find disturbing.

Draconis Republic The Draconis Republic made first contact with the TSc in the early days of the unification. the tongue of the DR is spoken by many TSC citizens, and the Fel'Theh are regarded as a reasonable species. No alliances exists between the DR and the TSC at this time, but that may change at any time.

Several Limited contact between Several and the Commonwealth means it is an unknown factor.

The Guu The Guu's policy of forceably modifying captured prisoners make them pariah to the TSC, which has firm laws regarding the genetic or robotic modification of an unwilling subject. The Guu's actions will dictate the TSC's stance, but they will be viewed politely and coldly until they prove themselves.

The Federation of the Shadow The TSC fears the Federation in some ways, realising the massive industrial and military potential the Nerubian slave-caste gives the scythian ruling-caste. Never the less, the TSC is willing to presue friendly relations with the Federation.

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HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hello...... Is anyone listening????

[Stormbringer]

Ships Classes

Capital Ships


25 - Swift Sword-class Battleship (1.8 km)

• 20 - missle tubes (15 megatons, 30 sec refire rate) (600)
  40 - heavy x-ray lasers (5.5 megatons, 15 sec refire rate) (880)
  
  5.2 gigtons sheilding (500 megatons per minute recharge rate)
  100 - point defense gatling lasers

25 - Shadow Hunter-class Battleship (1.9 km)

• 10 - heavy missle tubes (30 megatons, 30 sec refire rate) (500)
  30 - x-ray lasers (15 megatons, 30 sec refire rate) (900)
  
  4.9 gigtons sheilding (500 megatons per minute recharge rate)
  120 - point defense gatling lasers

50 - Hearts Blade-class Fleet Battle Carriers (2.2 km)

• 10 - x-ray lasers (20 megatons, 20 sec refire rate) (600)
  
  3.8 gigtons sheilding (400 megatons per minute recharge rate)
  120 - point defense gatling lasers
  
  400 - spacecraft (275 fighters, 125 bombers)

75 - Divine Wrath-class Battlecruisers (1.3 km)

• 50 - x-ray lasers (10 megatons, 30 sec refire rate) (1000)
  5 - missles tubes (20 megatons, 30 sec refire rate) (200)
  
  4.4 gigtons sheilding (400 megatons per minute recharge rate)
  90 - point defense gatling lasers

25 - Long Sword-class Missle Cruisers (1.5km)

• 45 - long range missles tubes (25 megatons, 60 sec refire rate)(1125)
  
  3.9 gigtons sheilding (600 megatons per minute recharge rate)
  100 - point defense gatling lasers

Escort Vessels


150 - Retribution-class heavy cruisers (800 m)

• 30 - x-ray lasers (5 megatons, 20 sec refire rate) (450)
  6 - missle tubes (15 megatons, 30 sec refire rate) (180)
  
  3.1 gigtons sheilding (300 megatons per minute recharge rate)
  70 - point defense gatling lasers

150 - Sabre-class light cruisers (720 m)

• 25 - x-ray lasers (5 megatons, 20 sec refire rate) (375)
  4 - missle tubes (15 megatons, 30 sec refire rate) (120)
  
  2.6 gigtons sheilding (250 megatons per minute recharge rate)
  60 - point defense gatling lasers

400 - Dagger-class destroyers (570 m)

• 16 - x-ray lasers (5 megatons, 20 sec refire rate) (240)
  4 - missle tubes (15 megatons, 30 sec refire rate) (120)
  
  2.4 gigtons sheilding (Can not recharge sheilds while up)
  50 - point defense gatling lasers

300 - Fearsome-class frigates (415m)

• 20 - x-ray lasers (5 megatons, 20 sec refire rate) (300)
  2 - missle tubes (15 megatons, 20 sec refire rate) (90)
  
  1.6 gigtons sheilding (Can not recharge sheilds while up)
  40 - point defense gatling lasers

[Stormbringer]

Quick question, what are the build times for various types of capital ships???

I'll have to discusse that with Stormbringer. Probably longer then last time for major ships, but escorts can be churned out in months.

We'll be using real rates from the WW2 peroid as the basis. Peace time rates apply in peace time and war rates in war time.

I'm sure Sea Skimmer can provide hard numbers.

[Stormbringer]

Has everyone posted a national profile and order of battle? I'd like to move this to the diplomacy phase soon.

[Darksider]

Has everyone posted a national profile and order of battle? I'd like to move this to the diplomacy phase soon.

I might do a little bit more tweaking on my OOB, but if i don't get around to it i've got a valid power.

(Are we still gonna do the other STGOD after this one starts?)

[Sea Skimmer]

Has everyone posted a national profile and order of battle?

no, but I may be the last person and it should be ready tonight.