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Oregon Police Beg Public to Stop Calling In False Reports Blaming Antifa for Wildfires

Post by loomer » 2020-09-10 11:42pm

Oregon Police Beg Public to Stop Calling In False Reports Blaming Antifa for Wildfires

False claims that antifascists are starting forest fires have been spread by supporters of President Donald Trump.

Four police departments in parts of Oregon ravaged by wildfires are pleading with the public to stop calling 911 to pass on unfounded rumors that antifascist political activists have intentionally set the blazes.

The false claims have been spread on social networks by supporters of President Donald Trump, who has spent months pretending that antifascists in the Pacific Northwest dedicated to confronting white supremacists are members of an imaginary army of domestic terrorists called Antifa.

Primed by that fear-mongering, the president’s supporters have fallen hard for internet hoaxes falsely claiming that antifascist arsonists have been caught in the act.

“Rumors spread just like wildfire and now our 9-1-1 dispatchers and professional staff are being overrun with requests for information and inquiries on an UNTRUE rumor that 6 Antifa members have been arrested for setting fires,” the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office in Roseburg, Oregon wrote on Facebook on Thursday. “THIS IS NOT TRUE! Unfortunately, people are spreading this rumor and it is causing problems.”

One prominent Trump supporter who spread the false information about arrests in Douglas County and has refused to retract it is Paul Romero, who finished second in the Oregon Republican primary for the U.S. Senate in May, with more than 100,000 votes.

Police officers in the badly hit city of Medford also had to take time away from responding to the crisis to debunk a hoax Facebook post, mocked up to look like it had come from their department, which claimed that they had arrested five arsonists “based on anonymous tips.”

“This is a made up graphic and story,” the department wrote on its real Facebook page next to an image of the fake one. “We did not arrest this person for arson, nor anyone affiliated with Antifa or ‘Proud Boys’ as we’ve heard throughout the day. Also, no confirmed gatherings of Antifa which has also been reported.”

On Wednesday, police officers in Molalla, a city in Clackamas County which was evacuated on Thursday, asked residents who remained in town to report possible suspicious activity by thieves amid what the department called a spate of “rumors” about looters spreading on Facebook.

The department’s Facebook appeal was then wrongly cited as evidence of “Antifa arsonists” by Katie Daviscourt, a member of the Trump-supporting Turning Point USA. “Multiple sources in Emergency Response have confirmed that the fires along the West Coast are caused by dozens of arsonists,” Daviscourt tweeted above an image of the Molalla Facebook post. “These fires are allegedly linked to Antifa and the Riots.”

After nearly 3,000 people shared Daviscourt’s fever dream, the Molalla police department added a clarification to its post, reading: “This is about possible looters, not antifa or setting of fires. There has been NO antifa in town as of this posting at 02:00 am. Please, folks, stay calm and use common sense.”

The Jackson County Sheriff’s Office in southwestern Oregon was also forced to respond to the spread of rumors on Thursday. “One increasingly problematic issue related to the disastrous fires in Jackson County is the spreading of false information,” the sheriff’s office wrote on Facebook. “We are inundated with questions about things that are FAKE stories. One example is a story circulating that varies about what group is involved as to setting fires and arrests being made. THIS IS NOT TRUE!”

While the authorities in Jackson County have opened an arson investigation, Ashland Police Chief Tighe O’Meara told The Oregonian, a Portland newspaper, that there was no evidence of any link to antifascist activists.

“One thing I can say is that the rumor it was set by Antifa is 100 per cent false information,” the police chief wrote in an email. “We have some leads, and none of it points in that direction.”

As the rumors swirled online, the Kremlin’s Potemkin news channel, Russia Today, added to the confusion by illustrating a report on a request from the police in Portland for protesters not to light bonfires with an image of an entirely unrelated wildfire elsewhere in the state.

The total lack of evidence for the false claims about left-wing arsonists has not stopped the internet rumors from having an impact in the offline world.

MG Belka, a journalist in Eugene, Oregon, reported on Wednesday that a member of a far-right group providing aid to evacuated families showed him “screenshots from her Facebook account that claim members of ‘Antifa’ are being caught starting fires around the county.” The woman assured Belka that two of the arsonists from a group called “The Ring of Fire” had been arrested. There have been no such arrests.

Justin Yau, a freelance journalist based in Portland, reported on Twitter of Thursday that he was blocked from reporting on the fires at one location in Molalla by armed men on the lookout for antifascist arsonists.
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Yep. Of course, it'd be easy to blame Trump for this, and we should, but we should also blame every single liberal who screamed and wailed about antifa over the last six years, because they - and there's plenty of you even on here - helped fuel the hysteria and turn anti-fascism into a boogeyman. Sure am glad that that happened. Sure am glad that my anarchist friends in the PNW are now in danger of being shot by armed paramilitaries because of propaganda spread by statist and rightist actors.

Sure am glad.
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Re: Oregon Police Beg Public to Stop Calling In False Reports Blaming Antifa for Wildfires

Post by Eulogy » 2020-09-11 06:19pm

loomer wrote:
2020-09-10 11:42pm
Yep. Of course, it'd be easy to blame Trump for this, and we should, but we should also blame every single liberal who screamed and wailed about antifa over the last six years, because they - and there's plenty of you even on here - helped fuel the hysteria and turn anti-fascism into a boogeyman. Sure am glad that that happened. Sure am glad that my anarchist friends in the PNW are now in danger of being shot by armed paramilitaries because of propaganda spread by statist and rightist actors.

Sure am glad.
You will, of course, provide evidence that liberals are to blame for fueling this antifa boogeyman, instead of Trump and his mindless human centipede doing everything they can to make things worse?
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Post by Rogue 9 » 2020-09-11 10:37pm

The root of the hoax is the fact that Black Lives Matter and the Bureau of Land Management share an acronym, so idiots think that since the Bureau of Land Management has firefighting operations, Black Lives Matter has something to do with the fires.
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Re: Oregon Police Beg Public to Stop Calling In False Reports Blaming Antifa for Wildfires

Post by loomer » 2020-09-11 11:34pm

Eulogy wrote:
2020-09-11 06:19pm
loomer wrote:
2020-09-10 11:42pm
Yep. Of course, it'd be easy to blame Trump for this, and we should, but we should also blame every single liberal who screamed and wailed about antifa over the last six years, because they - and there's plenty of you even on here - helped fuel the hysteria and turn anti-fascism into a boogeyman. Sure am glad that that happened. Sure am glad that my anarchist friends in the PNW are now in danger of being shot by armed paramilitaries because of propaganda spread by statist and rightist actors.

Sure am glad.
You will, of course, provide evidence that liberals are to blame for fueling this antifa boogeyman, instead of Trump and his mindless human centipede doing everything they can to make things worse?
Nice try, but your attempt to twist that away from 'yes, blame Trump, but also the liberals' is noted. Shockingly, both liberals and conservatives have had a frothing fit over antifa and anarchists over the last six years, and even a cursory google will show you that liberals do not care for antifa. The repeated condemnations from centrist liberals have added legitimacy to Trump's efforts to demonize actual left-wing resistance and have contributed to situations like we're currently seeing, and liberals need to live with the knowledge that by joining in the chorus of opposition to antifa, they gave aid and succor to fascists.

And that, of course, is exactly how fascism operates. It likes to present a front of reasonableness to the liberals until it's too late. It's literally one of their oldest tricks in the book, and America's liberal centrists fell for it.
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Re: Oregon Police Beg Public to Stop Calling In False Reports Blaming Antifa for Wildfires

Post by Ralin » 2020-09-12 03:07am

Rogue 9 wrote:
2020-09-11 10:37pm
The root of the hoax is the fact that Black Lives Matter and the Bureau of Land Management share an acronym, so idiots think that since the Bureau of Land Management has firefighting operations, Black Lives Matter has something to do with the fires.
Source? Because I want to believe you are making a joke.

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Post by Rogue 9 » 2020-09-12 08:36am

Ralin wrote:
2020-09-12 03:07am
Rogue 9 wrote:
2020-09-11 10:37pm
The root of the hoax is the fact that Black Lives Matter and the Bureau of Land Management share an acronym, so idiots think that since the Bureau of Land Management has firefighting operations, Black Lives Matter has something to do with the fires.
Source? Because I want to believe you are making a joke.
I would like to believe that too. I'll try to dig it up; I don't typically save right-wing memes on Facebook.
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Post by Knife » 2020-09-12 10:24am

This is happening in either the small eastern towns which are small farming communities, so guess the demographic; and the coast which are small communities dominated by old retirees, so guess the demographic. These are the same people who grouped up with gunz to fight off the Antifa bus that was 'spotted' driving to their town. lol.
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Post by PainRack » 2020-09-16 04:00am

This kinda would be funny, if terrorists hasn't used concurrent bomb hoaxes to obscure and hide an actual attack on the US in singapore before ......

Can kinda imagine the actual accelerationists doing this right now.
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I mean... The boogaloo has already tried starting shit in the BLM riots before and since it operates like Anonymous, you don't need a central plan.

And before anyone asks, I can't say more about the attack other than
https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives ... 28-19.html
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Hell, we grunts only knew the attack and some of its details, investigation and whodunit was shunted to FBI and everything else classified way above us.
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