madd0ct0r wrote:yeah I'm a bit surprised at the people coming down in favor of Zimmerman.
he shot someone, and created the situation where that happened. legal arguments aside, this is not a situation i'd like to see repeated.
In civilized countries we have this thing called presumption of innocence and proof beyond a reasonable doubt. So far there is no evidence which proves he's guilty of manslaughter or murder 2, which is why I presume he's innocent of those charges. He killed Martin, but there's no proof that the circumstances of the killing satisfy the conditions of manslaughter or murder 2.
PeZook wrote:I think people would be more inclined to accept Zimmerman's story if the police took the whole thing seriously from the start.
That and if his story hadn't changed like 3 times.
Really? Prove it. Produce the raw interviews with Zimmerman where his story has changed 3 times as you claim. Don't give me some shit in the media which was reported in interviews with his lawyer, his family, or some other dumbass, because that's about as reliable as NBC's doctored 911 tapes. I want the raw transcripts or audio of the interviews with Zimmerman himself.
J wrote: He was indeed correct. This case was well on the way to being forgotten and buried (rightfully so I might add) until the mainstream media caught wind of it and whipped up a frenzy, helped greatly by Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and even President Obama. Based on all evidence I've seen it's a textbook case of justified self-defence under Florida's laws.
Except for the part where Zimmerman didn't have to and shouldn't have followed Martin. Even if he gets off, which he might, he still bears some moral responsibility for trying to play cop.
Was he ever explicitly told to not follow Martin? No. After being told by Zimmerman that he was following Martin, the 911 dispatcher said, and I quote "OK. We don’t need you to do that." You can confirm this from the original audio or any of the transcripts which are floating around. He did not have to follow Martin but there isn't anything to indicate that he shouldn't
do so. Put it another way, it's like your teacher telling you "you don't need to do your homework tonight", it doesn't mean "don't do your homework" or "you shouldn't do your homework", you might still have a good reason for doing your homework anyway even though you've been told you don't need to.