RAR! Survive 5 years in Westeros (Game of Thrones)spoilerISH

[Chirios]

Why are people going on about selling technology? Good steel is easier to sell, and cheap here, while monstrously expensive there.A couple grand in steel will probably easily set you up for the 5 years worth of time you need to survive. Probably be well more than the capacity of the cart, for that matter.

Because merchants get robbed, they get beaten, noblemen hang them because they don't like it when peasants get uppity. Technology offers you a distinct advantage, a way to make yourself utterly indispensable.

But you're right, selling good steel is a good way to get your initial starting capital, once you get enough gold to purchase some land you should be able to get a good production facility going.

Question: Does Westeros allow people to buy land?

[avatarxprime]

My objective is survival, but I also have principles. To that end, I gather survival supplies and the necessaries for semi-modern weaponsmithing and go straight to Eddard Stark to warn him of Cersei's treachery. If he's inclined to give me a fair shake, I arrange to have Cersei and Jamie caught in the act in the tower, causing her imprisonment and/or execution, thereby saving Robert Baratheon (and Bran Stark in the bargain), preventing the civil war, stopping the ruination of the harvest just in time for winter, and keeping the Stark power base strong and ready to aid the Wall when the Others inevitably move south with the snows. Having done this, I move south, away from the Iron Islands and the Wall, and stay the hell out of politics for the remainder of my time.

Seriously, I don't know why more posters in this thread have not said that they'd try and hook up with House Stark and save Ned. I would essentially follow with Rogue 9's plan to try and gain the trust of Ned. I doubt he'd believe me about any of the scheming going on since I'm still some strange oddity of a man to him. I don't exactly have a lot of time to get his trust since we're dropped in right as Robert is leaving to come to Winterfell. I would expect events to play out similarly to how they did in the show, but I find some way to save Bran. I'm not sure if exposing Cersei and Jamie is a good idea though, at least that early. I'd only know Ned for a few months at most and other than bringing knowledge surpassing every Maester known I'm really not anyone.

[Chirios]

Things I'd take:

1) Books, all written in English: These would include the entire Song of Ice and Fire series. I would go onto wikipedia and find every piece of technology invented during the Middle Ages/ Renaissance era. I would print off diagrams and I would buy every book I could that would tell me how to make these technologies, and the basic principles behind them.

2) Disease: I'd have to get some vaccinations, including very rare ones, I'd have to buy antibiotics, and antiseptics as well. I'd also have to buy some books on common diseases during the middle ages, to protect myself against those.

3) Pistol + Ammunition: Useful, easy to hide.

4) Steel: The steel idea is a good one. I should be able to sell steel for a shitload more than it cost me to buy, letting me purchase land/ rent land and live relatively comfortably, so I'd use the rest of my money to buy steel, then when I hit Westeros I'd sell it off and make a killing.

Where I'd Go:

There's no way to not get noticed. You need the technology to survive which means that you're going to draw attention to yourself regardless of what you do. Best option would be to go up to the North, to White Harbour, then a few months before the Iron Men start their attack get the fuck out of dodge and sail straight for Braavos.

[Solauren]

Has been said - get stuff to make my invaluable to the proper people. i.e Tech specs for giving Westros improved weapons (i.e Muskets)

Also, I want a high powered snipers rifle, and 2 land mines activated by remote detonator.

I wait south of Winterfell, out of sight obviously, until the kings family carriage gets near the detonators. BOOM.

Well, the succession problem has been solved, and that should prevent the Seven Kings war....

Westros just got safer.


Alternatively, I take what I think I'd need to join the Horde as 'a spirit given flesh, sent by the Great Stallation to project the Khal and Khalisi that shall birth the stallion that shall mount the world', and a shit load of antibotics to keep them alive.

[Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba]

Has been said - get stuff to make my invaluable to the proper people. i.e Tech specs for giving Westros improved weapons (i.e Muskets)

Also, I want a high powered snipers rifle, and 2 land mines activated by remote detonator.

Shit, you know where to get remote-detonation landmines and a sniper rifle with one week and $6,000? That's a good connect.

[Solauren]

Has been said - get stuff to make my invaluable to the proper people. i.e Tech specs for giving Westros improved weapons (i.e Muskets)

Also, I want a high powered snipers rifle, and 2 land mines activated by remote detonator.

Shit, you know where to get remote-detonation landmines and a sniper rifle with one week and $6,000? That's a good connect.

Oh, I thought 'Q' or whoever it was was supplying you, and just giving you a credit limit.

However, I might be able to get a hold of a good rifle and scope with a weeks warning. I just need to go visit my uncle. He owns a land survey company about 12 hours North of Lake Ontario, and has a nice rifle collection, including several for picking off wolves at a distance.

The Landmines and radio detonator, probably not. All my 'military connections' are all retired or honourably discharged, and I doubt my friend in the RCMP has access to that level of firepower.

[The Yosemite Bear]

the very first thing I must do is invent insulin, or die.

[The Yosemite Bear]

also since I'm a manipulative bastard, I shall become the new medici

[Chirios]

For people who've read Dance

Have the events in Dance changed what your plans would be at all?

[Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba]

It hasn't changed my plans, but I would use it as a further point in favour of avoiding the Lannisters. Because setting yourself up to get ganked by Varys is no way to earn a living.

[DrMckay]

Yup, Still heading to Dorne, with more motivation now that Winter is coming. It is the most southerly kingdom, and may still be able to produce food for some time yet, as well as being allied with the leader of the Golden Company.

[Eframepilot]

For people who've read Dance

Have the events in Dance changed what your plans would be at all?

Yes. Thanks to the Tattered Prince's ambitions, I'm no longer confident that Pentos won't be destroyed in a dreadful war with dragons torching everything. I'm going to Lorath instead. The one Free City so unimportant that no characters come from it at all! (Except Jaqen H'ghar, but he was probably actually from Braavos.)

[Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba]

Aside from the super-Assassins, Braavos seems like it would be the best place to live of anywhere, honestly. It's rich, no one has ever invaded it successfully (to my knowledge) nor plans to, your diet would probably be pretty varied since it's such an influential trade city that you could get spices and fruits from the Jade Sea and Ibbenese whalemeat and Westerosi roast hog and Eastern honeyed almonds and arbor wine, etcetera.

But then, it is also home to the super-assassins.

[Solauren]

My plan is changed somewhatm but not by the books.

I agree setting up Cersei and her brother to get caught in the tower are a good idea.

However, failing that, high powered rifle shot. Make sure to get their kid too.

Then I'm heading to port and going to find a certain princess with Dragons and offer the services of me and my magic weapons....

[Chirios]

My plan has changed quite significantly. I need to be in a position where I can feed and supply the Black Brothers with clothing, armour and napalm for three years out of pocket by the end of the first year at most.

Fortunately, that means that the Ironborn and Lannisters are now my permanent enemies.

Unfortunately, that means that I need to gather money much faster, and the Lannisters are probably the easiest way to do that.

[Chirios]

Also, I'd like to point out to those who advocate making weaponry that muskets were traditionally deplored because they made it easier for peasants to kill knights. If you start making it easier for peasants to kill knights it's likely that Tywin might have your hands broken. Also, muskets make it less likely that you can take hostages, which is one of the ways Tywin manages to keep control.

[Eulogy]

Also, I'd like to point out to those who advocate making weaponry that muskets were traditionally deplored because they made it easier for peasants to kill knights. If you start making it easier for peasants to kill knights it's likely that Tywin might have your hands broken. Also, muskets make it less likely that you can take hostages, which is one of the ways Tywin manages to keep control.

So don't serve Tywin? Also, what are the chances Tywin will realize how dangerous masses with guns are?

[Chirios]

Also, I'd like to point out to those who advocate making weaponry that muskets were traditionally deplored because they made it easier for peasants to kill knights. If you start making it easier for peasants to kill knights it's likely that Tywin might have your hands broken. Also, muskets make it less likely that you can take hostages, which is one of the ways Tywin manages to keep control.

So don't serve Tywin? Also, what are the chances Tywin will realize how dangerous masses with guns are?

If he doesn't then he won't take you on as a weapons manufacturer.

[Guardsman Bass]

Also, I'd like to point out to those who advocate making weaponry that muskets were traditionally deplored because they made it easier for peasants to kill knights. If you start making it easier for peasants to kill knights it's likely that Tywin might have your hands broken. Also, muskets make it less likely that you can take hostages, which is one of the ways Tywin manages to keep control.

Tywin uses pikemen, who also make it easier to kill knights. Nothing we've seen so far indicates that he's a hard core traditionalist when it comes to warfare, especially not if it gives him a major advantage on the battlefield.

[Chirios]

Also, I'd like to point out to those who advocate making weaponry that muskets were traditionally deplored because they made it easier for peasants to kill knights. If you start making it easier for peasants to kill knights it's likely that Tywin might have your hands broken. Also, muskets make it less likely that you can take hostages, which is one of the ways Tywin manages to keep control.

Tywin uses pikemen, who also make it easier to kill knights. Nothing we've seen so far indicates that he's a hard core traditionalist when it comes to warfare, especially not if it gives him a major advantage on the battlefield.

Perhaps I should've said lords then. I dunno, perhaps it would be safer simply to invent cannons. Tywin can use them to end seiges much quicker.

[The Yosemite Bear]

If your going to make muskets make sure you REALLY screw Tywin and add sharp pointy things that attach to the end of the barrels via a socket, as well as a ton of pike men to give them a nice 15' forrest of spikes that makes killing knights and capturing them much easier. now if we can just train the peasants to form a square....