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Deadline Hollywood is reporting that despite the success of AMC's The Walking Dead TV series, that Executive Producer Frank Darabont is letting go of his writing staff.
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I hear The Walking Dead writer/ executive producer/ director Frank Darabont has let go of the writers on the hot freshman AMC series, which has already renewed for a second season. That includes Darabont's No. 2, writing executive producer Charles “Chic” Eglee. Writer turnover on series between seasons is commonplace but wholesale overhauls are unusual. What's more, I hear Darabont is looking to forgo having a writing staff for the second season of Walking Dead altogether and assign scripts to freelancers.
Weird. Weirder considering one of the writers is Darabont himself and another is series creator Robert Kirkman.
As stated, this could go either way. The last episode wasn't that good, and the zombie attack on the camp in the episode before that hinged on a massive gap in logic. So, this may have been the correct call.Zixinus wrote:Likely will kill it. Writers changing suddenly mid-way are never a good thing mid-story.
Alyeska wrote:I find it funny people are bitching at the writers being fucking idiots. The first season is the Graphic Novel. It is my understanding they are following it very closely. Which means the conventions people blame on the writers are part of the source material itself.
Congratulations, you've just written the character bio for every character in every piece of zombie fiction ever as well as identifying the core plot mechanic, conceits and what some would claim as "the theme" of the piece.Pulp Hero wrote:
These people are just incapable of thinking ahead or learning from their mistakes.
weemadando wrote:Congratulations, you've just written the character bio for every character in every piece of zombie fiction ever as well as identifying the core plot mechanic, conceits and what some would claim as "the theme" of the piece.Pulp Hero wrote:
These people are just incapable of thinking ahead or learning from their mistakes.
If they weren't stupid from time to time, they wouldn't be human.
I know and accept it, I love zombie fiction, but goddamn it would be nice if at least one story dwelled on another theme so the survivors wouldn't have to be so stupid all the time.
Just once I'd like to read a book or watch a film where the genre conventions I hate get thrown out by the creators who want to do something original and bold.weemadando wrote:Congratulations, you've just written the character bio for every character in every piece of zombie fiction ever as well as identifying the core plot mechanic, conceits and what some would claim as "the theme" of the piece.Pulp Hero wrote:These people are just incapable of thinking ahead or learning from their mistakes.
Zombieland's a comedy though (yeah yeah I know, stating the obvious). When the girls go up on that elevator chair ride thingy you just know the makers of the film are making fun of the horror cliche of stupid people running from the monster/serial killer/whatever and go up an attic where there's like only one exit (and thus they get trapped and die horribly).Erik von Nein wrote:Well, there is Zombieland, where even if the characters do something stupid they're still stupidly good at managing to survive. Somehow.
Except for the cops and possibly racist redneck asshole, which of the characters would really have a reason to know what the hell they're doing? And, hell, even with the cops, Shane is apparently going a little crazy from having his best friend come back and thus breaking up his new family that he made with Rick's wife and son, while everyone else is dealing with shit like Ed being a complete jackoff wife-beater. This is on top of what must be an enormous case of PTSD for everyone with everyone trying to capture some semblence of what life used to be like (thus, people sleeping in tents alone without a weapon or using the bathroom by themselves). Thus, their stupid actions are understandable.Stofsk wrote:Erik von Nein wrote:This show is supposedly a Serious Drama. Except five episodes in the drama shit doesn't work and the only character I'm rooting for is the racist redneck asshole with the crossbow.
More reason that they cannot, and indeed maybe should not follow the comic exactly is that the book is still ongoing and has no end in sight. Why tie yourself down to what is in the comics when it could go a direction you as a TV producer/writer/studio exec don't want your show to?Gunhead wrote:I hadn't even heard of AMC before watching this series. I don't think it's a bad thing really that the writers are not following the comics to letter. What works as a comic might not work as a TV show.
The comic is just as much a bog standard zombie apocalypse thing as the TV show has been so far, so by not following the comic to the letter at least there's a chance they come up with something original. A very small chance from what I've seen so far.
-Gunhead
No they're not. They have a look out during the day and every other day prior to that episode (old guy who sits on top of the RV with a rifle and binoculars) and they even had Shane tell wife-beater to take his fire down a notch in order to not attract any potential attraction from the walkers (meaning they're well-aware of the problem their camp faces). They clearly understand it's important to have someone watching out for all of them. They inexplicably decided not to the one time when they should have been on high alert - because four able-bodied men left the camp to retrieve another member left behind in the city as well as recover a bag of guns, and because they had recently found a walker a stone's throw away from their camp. The drama doesn't work if the characters decide to be retards for no reason.Akhlut wrote:Except for the cops and possibly racist redneck asshole, which of the characters would really have a reason to know what the hell they're doing? And, hell, even with the cops, Shane is apparently going a little crazy from having his best friend come back and thus breaking up his new family that he made with Rick's wife and son, while everyone else is dealing with shit like Ed being a complete jackoff wife-beater. This is on top of what must be an enormous case of PTSD for everyone with everyone trying to capture some semblence of what life used to be like (thus, people sleeping in tents alone without a weapon or using the bathroom by themselves). Thus, their stupid actions are understandable.Stofsk wrote:Erik von Nein wrote:This show is supposedly a Serious Drama. Except five episodes in the drama shit doesn't work and the only character I'm rooting for is the racist redneck asshole with the crossbow.
However, with some of the most competent guys actually out and about trying to do their thing may have allowed such a situation to happen. Yeah, it wasn't smart to take out all the best people to Atlanta and then they do stupid shit when their van gets stolen, but I imagine they would have been more keen to still have sentries in place or something.Gunhead wrote:I can understand people doing stupid things, but my biggest problem was how they made it so damn obvious. "Look all the men are away and they build a big fire to fry fish, I sure do hope no zombie sees that and comes for a snack." "Oh poop, zombies came and ate several of the survivors now feel sorry for them you heartless bastards". Drama forced by writer fiat is shit.
-Gunhead