The Clone Wars Season 3 discussion thread.

[Force Lord]

Apparently SW Insider #121 has an image of Ahsoka's look by the end of Season 3. Someone scanned it and posted it on TFN. Here's the link. I don't know where in TFN it is, since I found it originally on DeviantArt.

Of course, that's the claim. I still think it's Photoshopped, but maybe this is legit.

[Talhe]

Reversing her back to the dark side? She never turned away from it, just as Obi Wan thought her redeemed she still tried to kill him, and although she gave Obi Wan a small tidbit of information about Dooku's plan as she fell into her healing trance, she never did anything that would indicate any kind of redemption. I saw her leaving has pure survival instinct, she couldn't join the Jedi for so many reasons and the Separatists wanted her dead.

She may not have been redeemed per Anakin/Revan, but she at least decided to stop fighting. She may not have turned to the light, but in my opinion, she left the dark.

Maybe, but I fear if too much of these things happen, Luke Skywalker will be the energy bunny of the EU. He is already all over the place, it is a wonder he managed to teach anybody anything at all.

Probably the EU's greatest failure (one of them, anyways), is the failure to make clear, great heroes that aren't from the movies. That's why you get old characters continuing to run around in Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi.

And I doubt many authors would write a good story rather than menace-of-the-week returns. Maybe Stover can do so, but I do not think he has ever indicated interest in the character.

Now that I think about it, Stover could've included her in Mindor as a Pawn, or maybe even replace Vastor. But yeah, not many authors could really get her right. I say let her have her comic ending; it gave her closure and the chance to rest, unlike so many EU characters.

[Darth Fanboy]

Huh. I interpreted her betraying Dooku and telling Kenobi he might be right about her as the classic "let go off rage" scenario. Of course, the leaving was pure survival, but note that she did not use the dark side to simply kill the pilots and steer the ship herself, which would be more in line with the dark Ventress.

There's no word on wether or not those pilots ever lived to tell the tale of what happened to them. She could have killed them, but then again she could have erased their memory and sent them along their way, maybe even planting a suggestion that the body was never even loaded onto the ship at all. But you make a very good point. Still, while she was no longer serving the Separatists and maybe she steered away from her former ambitions, but if she was truly redeemed she wouldn't have tried to kill Obi Wan in that last ditch effort before Anakin brought her down.

[Thanas]

Still, while she was no longer serving the Separatists and maybe she steered away from her former ambitions, but if she was truly redeemed she wouldn't have tried to kill Obi Wan in that last ditch effort before Anakin brought her down.

I would rank that more under "confused and scared" than under "still dark". This is a difference of opinion not of fact, really, so there is no real answer to it, but IMO it is more consistent with the idea of her falling back on besides her anger (a pattern familiar throughout her entire life). Remember that she was brought up by Dooku with the image of the Jedi abandoning her master, herself and her people. She views herself as a good person and the Jedi as an absolute evil scum. Yes, it is a distorted viewpoint she has, but with good reason considering the circumstances.

Why would she have any reason to believe the Jedi would spare her life? Anakin has tried to kill her numerous times, even immediately after she spared him and only scarred him instead of taking his life, the benign Jedi ideals are lies in her eyes, only to deceive her. What reasons would she have to trust Obi-wan would not just want to capture her to be tortured etc (to be fair, in the event of her arriving at coruscant I believe that would have happened to her anyway despite Obi-wans protestations as Palpatine could have simply ordered her to be handed over, executed etc.)

[Darth Fanboy]

Confused and scared so she goes to stab the person showing her mercy? I don't think so. We are talking about a Dark Acolyte who has been using the dark side her entire adult life and had aspirations to become a Sith Lady under Dooku's tutelage. All that ambition doesn't just disappear especially with a tangible corrupting influence fueling it.

[Thanas]

Confused and scared so she goes to stab the person showing her mercy? I don't think so. We are talking about a Dark Acolyte who has been using the dark side her entire adult life and had aspirations to become a Sith Lady under Dooku's tutelage. All that ambition doesn't just disappear especially with a tangible corrupting influence fueling it.

That kinda seems to conflict with Obi-wan's interpretation of her, though. That said, I don't really buy the cold killer at that time, not when it was sure she was not going to be able to escape. In that sense, it looks more like somebody thinking to be out of options.

[Darth Fanboy]

That kinda seems to conflict with Obi-wan's interpretation of her, though.

As it should, remember Obi Wan had thought he had finally gotten through to her and then she tried to stab him with a nearby piece of metal, which Anakin stopped by nearly killing her again. Obi Wan even states (and i'm looking at the book right now) that Anakin saw the situation more clearly than he did.

[Ritterin Sophia]

Apparently SW Insider #121 has an image of Ahsoka's look by the end of Season 3. Someone scanned it and posted it on TFN. Here's the link. I don't know where in TFN it is, since I found it originally on DeviantArt.

Of course, that's the claim. I still think it's Photoshopped, but maybe this is legit.

Eh, I would've preferred if they just gave Ahsoka normal Padawan robes. Still, it's not as bad as slave Ahsoka, that shit's creepy.

[Adam Reynolds]

Eh, I would've preferred if they just gave Ahsoka normal Padawan robes. Still, it's not as bad as slave Ahsoka, that shit's creepy.

The weird thing is that the male Jedi all seem to wear semi-armored robes but the female Jedi all wear either standard Jedi robes, or outfits like those worn by Ashoka or Aayla.

[Talhe]

It looks like Quinlan Vos is finally showing up in Clone Wars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEYdmklb1bA

Any predictions on how he'll be? I think any move away from his 'extreme!' attitude and inability to keep track of which side he's on will be a improvement.

[Ritterin Sophia]

Looks more like they're going for the 'flashy guy no-one likes' route.

[NecronLord]

I find they're doing a good job with making Cad Bane out as the best bounty hunter in the galaxy, he seems to really have his shit sorted out most of the time.

[Darksider]

agreed. and it's nice to see that the Senate security isn't totally shit. If they got access codes from 3P0, that could've allowed them to get close undetected in "Hostage Crisis."

[Talhe]

The episode didn't seem too bad, despite being another 'R2-D2 as Lassie' sort of thing. I was somewhat impressed that they showed someone actually planning for a mission in advance, and the Hutt Council was both a nod to the EU and promises some form of intrigue.

One thing that struck me as odd was the droid beauty parlor/salon. It seems that the place was run entirely by droids, and since there weren't any organics seen inside it, I wonder if it's a independently run by droids themselves.

I find they're doing a good job with making Cad Bane out as the best bounty hunter in the galaxy, he seems to really have his shit sorted out most of the time.

It's just because Filoni never read the Young Boba Fett series, you see.
/end Fett-wank.

[JME2]

Any thoughts on last night's episode?

Glad to see the Ziro subplot wrapped up. Sy Snootles's appearance was the nice for longtime fans (same with Vos). I partircularly enjoyed the dance number; the melody and staging was a nice homage to the opening of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

[Srelex]

How consistent was Vos's portrayal here with the comics, etc? Just curious.

[JME2]

How consistent was Vos's portrayal here with the comics, etc? Just curious.

I never really read the Star Wars: Republic comics, so I'm only vaguely familiar with Vos' behavior and attitude.

I think he's played up as slightly more brash and arrogant here, but I could be wrong.

[Darksider]

Vos seems entertaining enough in this ep. When did he work with Kenobi during the run of the Republic comics? Maybe that would help pin down the timeline of the series.


On a completely unrelated note, I just saw Ziro and Sy Snootles make out.


Need..........Brain........Bleach!

[JME2]

Vos seems entertaining enough in this ep. When did he work with Kenobi during the run of the Republic comics? Maybe that would help pin down the timeline of the series.

This I do know. Quinlan and Obi-Wan worked together during the Stark Hyperspace War, which was 22 years prior to AOTC.

[Talhe]

How consistent was Vos's portrayal here with the comics, etc? Just curious.

Kind of depends on which time he's in. Pre-Clone Wars, he was a somewhat arrogant smartass who was still a good person. In the Clone Wars, he became a confused, unbalanced Jedi who changed sides more often then a weather-vane. So he essentially resembles his pre-Clone Wars personality, which in my opinion, is vastly more preferable compared to his later self.

I thought the episodes was quite good overall. A realistic plot, a accurate look at Nal Hutta, and showing why Jabba is at the top of the Hutt council (although I could have done without Ziro's mom and the make-out ). Also, the Cad Bane fight scene was fairly good, despite Quinlan going down a bit fast.

Next episode looks interesting. Infiltrating Coruscant and a look at a sympathetic Seperatist?

[Thanas]

I think he's played up as slightly more brash and arrogant here, but I could be wrong.

Yes, he is.

[Srelex]

Does Vos have any sort of fan following like say Boba Fett (though obviously not the same degree)? I was just thinking that maybe some people on TFN or someplace may be getting prissy over this, like the whole Mando stuff.

[Thanas]

Does Vos have any sort of fan following like say Boba Fett (though obviously not the same degree)? I was just thinking that maybe some people on TFN or someplace may be getting prissy over this, like the whole Mando stuff.

I honestly do not know or do not care - but Vos and Obi-wan seem to have some kind of antipathy here, which is not present in the comits.

[Ritterin Sophia]

Was anyone but me a bit surprised when they actually showed Ziro's blaster wounds? Normally they get hit and you don't see the wound, they get hit and then fall without actually showing any injury. Hopefully we see more of that.

[Vympel]

Nah we've see blaster wounds a few times, this is just the latest. They're just sparing about it.