The Dark Knight (GODDAMN SPOILERS)

[Admiral Valdemar]

I'm sitting in the London IMAX now as the credits roll. I'm in simple awe.

[CaptainChewbacca]

• The absolutely retarded bank security. Why the fuck would an insecure box on the roof be a critical component of the system, trivially disabled?

That hasn't bothered you in every movie ever? Its an external utility access, these things are common.

• The stored money seemed idiotic. I don't believe that a bank would just keep it in a pile of cash such that it's easy for anyone entering the vault to snatch and pocket a stack or two.

If it was a 'count' day, they WOULD have money stacked up like that.

• The money bags were handled by the thugs as if they were full of feathers, not banknotes.

They appeared to give them enough heft to me.

• The conveniently slow police arrival time. A real police response would have probably been on scene they could even open the vault.

Did you miss the part where they said that 911 wasn't dialed, but a private alarm company instead? The mob doesn't want the police getting to their bank before they do.

• The cardboard bank walls. That school bus would have been crushed like a soda can against the reinforced walls of a real bank.

They came through windows, not walls.

• The fucking stupid escape. Was the driver of the bus behind the escaping one comatose? The dozens of other witnesses, too?

What's the other driver gonna do? As soon as they get two turns away you can't trace that bus.

• How is Batman's suit supposed to protect him from getting his bones and internal organs shredded at the conclusion of a 20-meter fall? At best, he'd be out of commission for weeks while recovering.

When did Batman fall 70 feet? The biggest fall I saw him land hard on was at the end with Dent, and that was at best 3 storeis. Besides, Batman has acrobat/tumbling training, and knows how to fall to minimize injury.

• The goddamned "carbon fiber gun." Any pistol would obviously require a metal barrel, which would have been intercepted by security. Furthermore, the witness would have been gunned down on the spot as soon as he pulled it out.

If its for one shot, a ceramic or carbon gun is quite feasible. Given the fact that he WASN'T 'gunned' down, means your notion is faulty. He pulled a gun and fired in less than 3 seconds, how fast is the guard supposed to react that fast when he's 'knows' the man in question is unarmed.? Besides, how do you know the guards weren't bribed?

• Smuggling flights into Pyongyang.

More absurd than smuggling elsewhere why?

• The surface-to-air recovery, which did not appear to use an elastic cable. Batman's Chinese friend would have been ripped out of his arms during the split-second acceleration from 0 to 300 km/h. Batman himself would be dead from internal trauma.

You're basing the fact that its elastic on... your years of experience in materials science?

• Aren't tactical vans supposed to have armor that isn't vulnerable to buckshot? Yet, Joker's fire penetrated like it was thin paper.

It didn't go through the wals, it dented the walls.

• Joker's truck, strong and massive enough to wreck multiple police vans while taking no damage, and then light enough that it's flipped over like a toy by a thin steel cable attached to its bumper? Wait, or did that happen due to the explosive charge underneath. The film was so damned sloppy that they didn't even remove the smoke. In any case, the Joker should have been fucking killed on the spot from the rapid deceleration, either in his seat or, as should have happened, upon hitting the pavement after being ejected from the cab.

If the truck has rear-wheel drive, and the front suddenly STOPS, what do you think is going to happen?

Repeat to yourself; ITS A GODDAMN MOVIE.

• Joker's very insecure confinement. Those shitbrained idiots didn't bother to fucking chain the most dangerous criminal of the fucking decade. And the moron later removed his restraints entirely.

He was in interrogation. Criminals generally aren't restrained for that.

• The police metal detectors that apparently don't work through flesh. Had the inmate been competently searched, Joker's childish escape plan would have been nullified.

You don't know if they used a metal detector on him. He may have just been frisked, given how many people they were bringing in and the multiple crises they were undergoing, I doubt they had time.

• Harvey's face. He'd have required so much morphine that he wouldn't even be able to move, much less do even a tenth of the shit he did.

ITS A GODDAMN MOVIE.

• The motherfucking cellphone real-time "sonar." This was the analog of the giant microwave beam of the last dumbshit film.

ITS A GODDAMN MOVIE.

If you didn't want to see a movie, why'd you even go? Its Batman, not fucking Meerkat manor. You want reality, watch a doccumentary. Sheesh.

[FSTargetDrone]

I saw the film again earlier today. The time went by much quicker but I still enjoyed myself.

Did anyone notice that the scene from the trailer where the Joker tosses a knife from one hand to the other is not in the film? It should have happened during the Joker + batpod scene. I noticed this when I first saw the film, but looked for it during the second viewing and did not see it.

The delivery of some of the spoken lines in the film seemed different than those same lines of dialogue in the various previews. Alternate takes, no doubt. Specifically, the "knives and lint" bits of dialogue from Gary Oldman's Gordon sounded different. There were a few others as well, I think.

[DPDarkPrimus]

Pretty much all the Joker lines in the trailer are alternate takes than what were used in the film. The trailer takes are better as sound bites but they excluded certain plot elements in the film (such as the "Here's my card" line - the trailer version doesn't have him with his coat open and the grenades exposed).

[Death from the Sea]

• The police metal detectors that apparently don't work through flesh. Had the inmate been competently searched, Joker's childish escape plan would have been nullified.

most police stations do not have metal detectors. In fact I don't think my department even has the wand metal detectors.

but I guess you just can't satisfy some people, they always have to hate the "popular" thing because they are so sophisticated...

[nickolay1]

Its an external utility access, these things are common.

It makes little sense to have the box on the roof, and so poorly secured. I would expect a telephone junction to be in a basement somewhere.

If it was a 'count' day, they WOULD have money stacked up like that.

Would they really have a cubic meter of cash just stacked like that? I can understand smaller amounts, but the quantity depicted looks more like the entire capital of the bank.

They appeared to give them enough heft to me.

They were throwing them almost effortlessly, at times one-handed.

Did you miss the part where they said that 911 wasn't dialed, but a private alarm company instead? The mob doesn't want the police getting to their bank before they do.

Fair enough. However, I would expect several 911 calls right after they were seen entering the bank, masked. And perhaps a few more after the initial gunfire.

They came through windows, not walls.

There was a wall between the windows. I'd expect it to be heavily reinforced, as a precaution against attacks just like this.

What's the other driver gonna do? As soon as they get two turns away you can't trace that bus.

A plausible scenario is that the other driver would immediately see that the bus was fleeing from a bank, radio the other drivers to stop their buses, and then call 911. This would force the stolen bus to maneuver in such a way (it's possible that it would get stuck entirely) that even more attention, and thus 911 calls, would be attracted. There would be no escape, and the Joker would quickly be killed or captured.

When did Batman fall 70 feet? The biggest fall I saw him land hard on was at the end with Dent, and that was at best 3 storeis. Besides, Batman has acrobat/tumbling training, and knows how to fall to minimize injury.

Batman jumped and was in free fall for approximately three seconds, when apprehending the guy who wore the manure-covered burlap bag over his head, onto his van.

If its for one shot, a ceramic or carbon gun is quite feasible.

A single-shot pistol would also be far smaller, for easier concealment. Here, his pistol appeared to be of regular size. Furthermore, it should have been found during the physical search that one would expect there to be for those involved in such an important case.

Given the fact that he WASN'T 'gunned' down, means your notion is faulty. He pulled a gun and fired in less than 3 seconds, how fast is the guard supposed to react that fast when he's 'knows' the man in question is unarmed.? Besides, how do you know the guards weren't bribed?

That he wasn't shot on the spot only shows the comical incompetence of the guards. As I recall, he was idly pointing the gun for three seconds or so before being disarmed by Dent. Less than a second after that two guards were already wrestling with him, so it's clear that they detected the threat some time earlier, but failed to respond appropriately.

More absurd than smuggling elsewhere why?

Even if we accept the "under the radar" justification provided, it's preposterous that a smuggling flight would not be detected in the goddamned capital of the most motherfucking militarized state on the planet. And finally, just who the fuck would be their customers?

You're basing the fact that its elastic on... your years of experience in materials science?

That it was obviously inelastic. I was unaware that making a judgment of such an obvious property as elasticity from film footage required a Ph.D. I saw that he was jerked very rapidly by the aircraft. Additionally, a cable of sufficient elasticity so as not to pulverize his spine upon capture and strong enough to withstand the stress of lifting and carrying two men would likely be rather thick. In the film, the dispenser shown was quite small, I'd guess less than eight inches in length and four in diameter. The cable itself was shiny, indicating that it was probably metal. One can conclude that it was the same type of unstretchable cable that Batman generally appears to use.

Therefore it is retarded for him to survive at all.

It didn't go through the wals, it dented the walls.

Get your vision checked. The buckshot resulted in visible fragments inside the van. I doubt that they were mere paint.

If the truck has rear-wheel drive, and the front suddenly STOPS, what do you think is going to happen?

In this scenario the bumper or the very thin cable should have been ripped off.

Otherwise, the truck would have crashed sideways. For it to perfectly flip in the manner depicted would require two cables -- one at each side. During the process, it would have sustained catastrophic damage. However, the film shows that it received barely a scratch. The bumper was actually intact. Also, during the flip, the entire truck was apparently rigid, including the trailer. Even with proper cables and a flipping truck like that, the trailer would have been shorn off and destroyed.

Repeat to yourself; ITS A GODDAMN MOVIE.

Remind me how "A GODDAMN MOVIE" is exempt from rules of physics and logic.

He was in interrogation. Criminals generally aren't restrained for that.

Sure, but an extremely dangerous criminal known to have killed tens if not more people, and with a talent for escaping the police?

You don't know if they used a metal detector on him. He may have just been frisked, given how many people they were bringing in and the multiple crises they were undergoing, I doubt they had time.

This is possible, though I would expect them to take extra precautions with, in their own words, "a cop killer."

Of course, the obvious explanation is writer's fiat. Very dumb, in this case.

• Harvey's face. He'd have required so much morphine that he wouldn't even be able to move, much less do even a tenth of the shit he did.

ITS A GODDAMN MOVIE.

See above. They resorted to nonsensical bullshit like this just to move the story along. Else, the film would be over in ten minutes.

• The motherfucking cellphone real-time "sonar." This was the analog of the giant microwave beam of the last dumbshit film.

ITS A GODDAMN MOVIE.

No fucking excuse for this insane bullshit. Even to an imbecile like you who doesn't seem to know two shits about basic physics, the phone shit should seem utterly laughable. And once again, without this element, the film would fall apart.

You want reality, watch a doccumentarye.

This film was a total caricature of reality, even by the standards of fiction.

[nickolay1]

• The police metal detectors that apparently don't work through flesh. Had the inmate been competently searched, Joker's childish escape plan would have been nullified.

most police stations do not have metal detectors. In fact I don't think my department even has the wand metal detectors.

but I guess you just can't satisfy some people, they always have to hate the "popular" thing because they are so sophisticated...

I would expect the police force of a city with a population of 30 million to be better equipped than Bumfuck, Texas.

[General Zod]

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No fucking excuse for this insane bullshit. Even to an imbecile like you who doesn't seem to know two shits about basic physics, the phone shit should seem utterly laughable. And once again, without this element, the film would fall apart.

What kind of fucking idiot goes to a comic-book movie expecting realism?

[nickolay1]

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No fucking excuse for this insane bullshit. Even to an imbecile like you who doesn't seem to know two shits about basic physics, the phone shit should seem utterly laughable. And once again, without this element, the film would fall apart.

What kind of fucking idiot goes to a comic-book movie expecting realism?

The film consistently fails to adhere to basic rules of logic, physics, human behavior, etc.

Why wasn't it just a cartoon?

[CaptainChewbacca]

It makes little sense to have the box on the roof, and so poorly secured. I would expect a telephone junction to be in a basement somewhere.

Telephone junctions are wherever the main line comes in. Depending on your setup it can be on the roof or at ground level. In my years of inspections, I've never seen one in a basement.

Would they really have a cubic meter of cash just stacked like that? I can understand smaller amounts, but the quantity depicted looks more like the entire capital of the bank.

Keep in mind, this was a bank actively engaged in laundering money. You're right in that a normal bank doesn't have that many small bills lying stacked, but this isn't a normal bank, and probably does many things differently.

Fair enough. However, I would expect several 911 calls right after they were seen entering the bank, masked. And perhaps a few more after the initial gunfire.

Once the gunfire happened, they were gone in under 2 minutes.

Batman jumped and was in free fall for approximately three seconds, when apprehending the guy who wore the manure-covered burlap bag over his head, onto his van.

Batman usually slows his falls with his cape.

A single-shot pistol would also be far smaller, for easier concealment. Here, his pistol appeared to be of regular size. Furthermore, it should have been found during the physical search that one would expect there to be for those involved in such an important case.

You don't know when he got the gun, or how long he had it. Given the rampant corruption in Gotham, it is conceivable he was handed the gun after the search, or even by the guard who was supposed to be searching him.

That he wasn't shot on the spot only shows the comical incompetence of the guards. As I recall, he was idly pointing the gun for three seconds or so before being disarmed by Dent. Less than a second after that two guards were already wrestling with him, so it's clear that they detected the threat some time earlier, but failed to respond appropriately.

Is it incompetence, or were the guards paid to permit the mobster to take a shot?

Even if we accept the "under the radar" justification provided, it's preposterous that a smuggling flight would not be detected in the goddamned capital of the most motherfucking militarized state on the planet. And finally, just who the fuck would be their customers?

North Koreans who are tired of living on the dole? Fuck, they could be smuggling slave brides and gourmet food for Kim Jong Il himself.

That it was obviously inelastic. I was unaware that making a judgment of such an obvious property as elasticity from film footage required a Ph.D. I saw that he was jerked very rapidly by the aircraft. Additionally, a cable of sufficient elasticity so as not to pulverize his spine upon capture and strong enough to withstand the stress of lifting and carrying two men would likely be rather thick. In the film, the dispenser shown was quite small, I'd guess less than eight inches in length and four in diameter. The cable itself was shiny, indicating that it was probably metal. One can conclude that it was the same type of unstretchable cable that Batman generally appears to use.

Wayne-Industries is developing a snotload of 'space age materials' which let you handwave away those sorts of concerns.

Therefore it is retarded for him to survive at all.

He's the Goddamn Batman.

Get your vision checked. The buckshot resulted in visible fragments inside the van. I doubt that they were mere paint.

Dent and the cops commented on how they'd need something stronger than what they were using to get through the armor.

Otherwise, the truck would have crashed sideways. For it to perfectly flip in the manner depicted would require two cables -- one at each side. During the process, it would have sustained catastrophic damage. However, the film shows that it received barely a scratch. The bumper was actually intact. Also, during the flip, the entire truck was apparently rigid, including the trailer. Even with proper cables and a flipping truck like that, the trailer would have been shorn off and destroyed.

I bet you were that kid who calculated how long it would actually take for Santa to deliver presents in order to convince his friends he didn't exist.

ITS A MOVIE.

Remind me how "A GODDAMN MOVIE" is exempt from rules of physics and logic.

BECAUSE ITS A GODDAMN MOVIE.

Sure, but an extremely dangerous criminal known to have killed tens if not more people, and with a talent for escaping the police?

At this point he didn't have a talent for escaping police custody.

This is possible, though I would expect them to take extra precautions with, in their own words, "a cop killer."

The big guy talking about how his 'insides hurt' is a cop killer?

See above. They resorted to nonsensical bullshit like this just to move the story along. Else, the film would be over in ten minutes.

1. Its a GODDAMN MOVIE
2. Its Two-Face. He's SUPPOSED to look like that. If he didn't, he wouldn't be two-face and it wouldn't be Batman.

[No fucking excuse for this insane bullshit. Even to an imbecile like you who doesn't seem to know two shits about basic physics, the phone shit should seem utterly laughable. And once again, without this element, the film would fall apart.

Dude, its a movie about BATMAN. Did you piss yourself like this when Superman threw an island into space without it breaking apart? Batman routinely makes physics, logic, fate, and common sense his bitch.

Because he's the GODDAMN BATMAN

This film was a total caricature of reality, even by the standards of fiction.

Have you even READ a comic book?

[General Zod]

The film consistently fails to adhere to basic rules of logic, physics, human behavior, etc.

Why wasn't it just a cartoon?

So you're just a troll instead of mentally retarded. By your asinine reasoning you may as well criticize Star Wars as being a bad movie because The Force doesn't follow basic rules of logic or physics. Or hey, why not any movie with faster than light travel? Fucking idiot.

[loomer]

What's the other driver gonna do? As soon as they get two turns away you can't trace that bus.

A plausible scenario is that the other driver would immediately see that the bus was fleeing from a bank, radio the other drivers to stop their buses, and then call 911. This would force the stolen bus to maneuver in such a way (it's possible that it would get stuck entirely) that even more attention, and thus 911 calls, would be attracted. There would be no escape, and the Joker would quickly be killed or captured.

What the fuck? Here in Australia, school busses do not have radios. Do they have them in America?

Get your vision checked. The buckshot resulted in visible fragments inside the van. I doubt that they were mere paint.

Get your hearing checked. The SWAT guy in the van specifically told Dent it would take them something a lot bigger to get through.

Remind me how "A GODDAMN MOVIE" is exempt from rules of physics and logic.

If it helps the story, and it doesn't break SoD too much, it gets a pass, fuckshit.

See above. They resorted to nonsensical bullshit like this just to move the story along. Else, the film would be over in ten minutes.

Well, see, Dent was somehow able to withstand the pain. Of course, you didn't mention that he would have also lost an eye and likely died from massive shock and subsequent infection, so if you want realism, don't pick and fucking choose.

He's a hero/villain. He has special qualities above the average man. Ergo, he was able to survive AND function despite the pain.

[Questor]

What's the other driver gonna do? As soon as they get two turns away you can't trace that bus.

A plausible scenario is that the other driver would immediately see that the bus was fleeing from a bank, radio the other drivers to stop their buses, and then call 911. This would force the stolen bus to maneuver in such a way (it's possible that it would get stuck entirely) that even more attention, and thus 911 calls, would be attracted. There would be no escape, and the Joker would quickly be killed or captured.

What the fuck? Here in Australia, school busses do not have radios. Do they have them in America?

Actually, yes, at least in my area. It is especially useful when you are carting five busloads of kids across a county and there are a half dozen different routes, and possible diversions. Also, sometimes buses will have to be rerouted after one run, but before they get to the depot.

I've also heard of them being used in case of medical emergency.

[loomer]

Oh, alright then. And I must admit, it does sound like a good idea. In my region we keep radios for the private bus lines to determine (and don't actually have dedicated school busses, the bus lines contract but normally use old busses with the bare minimum of equipment.)

[Mr. Coffee]

• The surface-to-air recovery, which did not appear to use an elastic cable. Batman's Chinese friend would have been ripped out of his arms during the split-second acceleration from 0 to 300 km/h. Batman himself would be dead from internal trauma.

So I guess you've never heard of the Fulton surface-to-air recovery system.

Dumbass...

[Bob the Gunslinger]

The film consistently fails to adhere to basic rules of logic, physics, human behavior, etc.

Why wasn't it just a cartoon?

Are you retarded or something? There hasn't been a big budget Hollywood movie in ages that hasn't relied on tropes, cliches, or bad physics to advance the story. Why would you expect anything different from a goddamn Batman movie? Did you miss the sign on the marquee as you walked into The Dark Night?

Besides, Batman movie or not, this film had drama and themes, with amazing acting and a powerful score to add even more interest. If you missed all that because a Hollywood bank heist wasn't filmed in a completely serious manner, then you have a sadder life than anyone ought to.

Stop trying to be Stark. You're failing.

Also, I'm pretty sure the real Stark actually liked the film... or maybe I'm just too poor a reader to recognize his particular brand of irony.

[nickolay1]

Telephone junctions are wherever the main line comes in. Depending on your setup it can be on the roof or at ground level. In my years of inspections, I've never seen one in a basement.

Exactly. The telephone line would not come in at the roof of the tall building that housed the bank. It'd probably be underground. The box shown, though, only had pipes running from it into the roof below.

Keep in mind, this was a bank actively engaged in laundering money. You're right in that a normal bank doesn't have that many small bills lying stacked, but this isn't a normal bank, and probably does many things differently.

Even for a money-laundering bank, an entire cubic meter of bills seems over the top.

Once the gunfire happened, they were gone in under 2 minutes.

From what I saw, it was four minutes from the time they exited the vehicle to the time that the bus pulled out. Ample time for police to intercept.

Batman usually slows his falls with his cape.

In that fall, his cape was not rigid and simply seemed to be flapping in the air. The effect would have been minimal.

You don't know when he got the gun, or how long he had it. Given the rampant corruption in Gotham, it is conceivable he was handed the gun after the search, or even by the guard who was supposed to be searching him.

This is a possibility. However, the building security recordings would be thoroughly examined after the incident. The threat of a gun transfer being detected would presumably deter guards or anyone else.

Is it incompetence, or were the guards paid to permit the mobster to take a shot?

While this seems ridiculous, I will concede this point.

North Koreans who are tired of living on the dole? Fuck, they could be smuggling slave brides and gourmet food for Kim Jong Il himself.

There are very, very few North Koreans who could afford such services.
The smugglers were stated to be South Korean. Now, why the fuck would these South Korean smugglers even bother to use an aircraft? North Korea can easily bring in whatever it wants, either by ship or through China.
The film implies that the smuggling was not authorized by DPRK authorities, hence the plane, the South Koreans, and the low flight altitude. Evading detection by the military would be impossible.

Wayne-Industries is developing a snotload of 'space age materials' which let you handwave away those sorts of concerns.

I can understand there being advanced materials, such as a thin, strong cable. The problem is that the film showed them being jerked very rapidly, implying an unstretchable cable that would result in injury to Batman and/or his hostage.

He's the Goddamn Batman

Yet, the other guy is not the Goddamn Mr. Lao.

Dent and the cops commented on how they'd need something stronger than what they were using to get through the armor.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=i9DixtwuOsQ
Circa 0:15, fragments can be seen as a result of the shotgun blast.

At this point he didn't have a talent for escaping police custody.

He was a dangerous criminal who had yet to be apprehended, and he somehow managed to execute the bank robbery without capture. He certainly did have an ability to evade the police. Extrapolating this to 'police custody' isn't much of a stretch.

The big guy talking about how his 'insides hurt' is a cop killer?

Yes, one of the cops made a remark to him which included those exact words.

2. Its Two-Face. He's SUPPOSED to look like that. If he didn't, he wouldn't be two-face and it wouldn't be Batman.

Why then would the film even pretend that they're human?

Dude, its a movie about BATMAN. Did you piss yourself like this when Superman threw an island into space without it breaking apart? Batman routinely makes physics, logic, fate, and common sense his bitch.

So because it's a film about BATMAN, it's immune to criticism?

Have you even READ a comic book?

Irrelevant. The film tries to be too serious anyway.

So you're just a troll instead of mentally retarded. By your asinine reasoning you may as well criticize Star Wars as being a bad movie because The Force doesn't follow basic rules of logic or physics. Or hey, why not any movie with faster than light travel? Fucking idiot.

Star Wars for the most part has consistent rules for the Force and FTL.

What the fuck? Here in Australia, school busses do not have radios. Do they have them in America?

Here, they do.

Get your hearing checked. The SWAT guy in the van specifically told Dent it would take them something a lot bigger to get through.

See the video above.

If it helps the story, and it doesn't break SoD too much, it gets a pass, fuckshit.

No shit. Except this film spectacularly failed to maintain SoD for longer than three minutes.

He's a hero/villain. He has special qualities above the average man. Ergo, he was able to survive AND function despite the pain.

And what "special qualities" are those?

So I guess you've never heard of the Fulton surface-to-air recovery system.

Dumbass...

That system used a stretchable nylon line, you fucking idiot. Not a motherfucking metal cable. Next time, try reading, imbecile.

Are you retarded or something? There hasn't been a big budget Hollywood movie in ages that hasn't relied on tropes, cliches, or bad physics to advance the story.

Just why does the precedent of awful films absolve this one from criticism?

Besides, Batman movie or not, this film had drama and themes, with amazing acting and a powerful score to add even more interest. If you missed all that because a Hollywood bank heist wasn't filmed in a completely serious manner, then you have a sadder life than anyone ought to.

I make no comment on the drama, themes, acting, score, etc. For me, the poor execution as outlined above ruined the entire film.

You might have noticed the twenty other items in my list. Doubtless there were more that I can't remember offhand. It wasn't just a single transgression that led to my conclusion.

[Jim Raynor]

This film was a total caricature of reality, even by the standards of fiction.

I don't like the "It's just a movie" excuse, and think that if someone has a fair criticism of a movie then it shouldn't be dismissed. But to call The Dark Knight cartoonish "even by the standards of fiction?" Really, how many action movies have you seen? Do you like ANY action movies, if TDK was way too much for you?

Not to say that TDK was totally realistic; just like Batman Begins it merely gave off an appearance of realism while using a number of scifi toys and fights with movie physics. But it's not particularly unrealistic compared to many other movies out there.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

Nicolay, you better just sit down to tvtropes.com with a bag of popcorn a bottle of lube, then, because no movie on tv or in theaters will ever make you happy.

You're the kind of guy who would hate Wall-E because the cute robot doesn't end up as a robotic Terry Shiavo at the end. God help you if you ever try to watch Commando.

[hongi]

Even for a money-laundering bank, an entire cubic meter of bills seems over the top.

So you've been to a money-laundering bank have you?

[loomer]

Not going to bother quoting.

A, those fragments appeared to be fucking paint, dipshit.
B, those special qualities include an extreme resistance to pain (or tolerance for high levels of it), the ability to keep his eye intact and usable without special attention, the ability to survive the massive shock that comes from having half your face BURNT OFF, in some places down to the fucking BONE (hint, that's a very severe burn. Since it's the head that was the site, it's a miracle he even fucking survived the initial damage) and the ability to avoid infection after leaving the hospital (or even before, seeing as he had to roll around in a gutter. While we didn't get a chance to see it develop fully, he showed no indication of any bacterial infection of the wound site).

[Bob the Gunslinger]

I also must point out another gaping flaw in the realism of the Dark Knight: Some guy dresses up like a giant bat when he is not attending a masquerade! And he walks around in this manner in public! And no one arrests him!

Heck, this American is filthy rich and uses his funds to try to better the lot of the common folk in his city instead of using his wealth to lobby for more tax cuts and fewer regulations. That is in no way realistic! It's even harder to believe than a bunch of crooked cops or a gimmicky bank heist.

[Mr. Coffee]

That system used a stretchable nylon line, you fucking idiot. Not a motherfucking metal cable. Next time, try reading, imbecile.

Yes, because we saw the cable up close and long enough to determine what the fuck it was made out of. We see the cable for what, maybe one or two seconds and never a good shot of it to identify it, but your dumbass assumes that it must be metal because, gee, Bruce "I've got more money the fucking Bill Gates to throw into my hobby of fighting crime" Wayne can only use steel cable, *I'm a smarmy asshole*. And never mind that it's a fucking COMIC BOOK MOVIE either...

Do the board a favor and get the fuck out, you coat hanger headed failed abortion. No, I mean it, go drink down a big fucking glass of drano and step in front of a speeding city bus, you nitpicking douchebag.

[hongi]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=i9DixtwuOsQ
Circa 0:15, fragments can be seen as a result of the shotgun blast.

So if the shotgun fragments did enter the van, then why the hell would the cop reassure Dent by saying "They're gonna need something a lot bigger to get through this?"

Was he just retarded? Or maybe, maybe as the second shot at 0:19 proves, those fragments are paint chips. 'Tard.

[Joviwan]

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No fucking excuse for this insane bullshit. Even to an imbecile like you who doesn't seem to know two shits about basic physics, the phone shit should seem utterly laughable. And once again, without this element, the film would fall apart.

What kind of fucking idiot goes to a comic-book movie expecting realism?

The film consistently fails to adhere to basic rules of logic, physics, human behavior, etc.

Why wasn't it just a cartoon?

Do you also hate star wars, or star trek? How about Spiderman? How about the Bourne series? Do you also hate and revile every other single action or suspense film ever released?