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Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2008-02-29 04:41am

Got another vandalizing moron by the name of "Grinning Moon". I removed most of his nonsense.

BountyHunterSAx · Post by **BountyHunterSAx** » 2008-03-05 02:42am

I'd actually highly recommend to anyone in need of a laugh to go read Grinning Moon's 'contributions'...particularly how he went whining to Shep to 'tattle' on Darth Servo for calling him out on being a worthless palm-fucker.

-AHMAD

ray245 · Post by **ray245** » 2008-03-20 03:47am

Should the wiki adopt a more tounge in cheek style for all of the articles? If not...then it hardly makes any difference from wookiepedia and other wiki..

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2008-03-20 03:54am

ray245 wrote:Should the wiki adopt a more tounge in cheek style for all of the articles? If not...then it hardly makes any difference from wookiepedia and other wiki..

Except the part where (theoretically) the SDN editors aren't complete idiots?

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2008-03-20 04:42am

ray245 wrote:Should the wiki adopt a more tounge in cheek style for all of the articles?

I guess you haven't seen the captions on some of the pics.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... eanna_Troi
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... hp/Shinzon
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wiki/index.php/Argo
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wiki/index.php/Worf
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... php/Neelix
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... yn_Janeway

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2008-03-20 10:43am

I think we also have a certain "unbrainwashed" tone to many of our articles. Arguably, it sounds like some of us have been drinking the Star Wars koolaid, but even there we're still willing to trash an idiot idea when we see one.

Kodiak · Post by **Kodiak** » 2008-03-20 12:08pm

As a bit of a nitpick, in the Janeway article among her crimes it lists that she "brought Neelix to Earth". IIRC, Neelix decided to stay w/ a Telaxian colony in the DQ, thus sparing Earth his idiocy.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2008-03-20 01:57pm

Kodiak wrote:As a bit of a nitpick, in the Janeway article among her crimes it lists that she "brought Neelix to Earth". IIRC, Neelix decided to stay w/ a Telaxian colony in the DQ, thus sparing Earth his idiocy.

Well in the time pod episode she did take Neelix to Earth.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-03-20 03:37pm

Isolder74 wrote:
Kodiak wrote:As a bit of a nitpick, in the Janeway article among her crimes it lists that she "brought Neelix to Earth". IIRC, Neelix decided to stay w/ a Telaxian colony in the DQ, thus sparing Earth his idiocy.
Well in the time pod episode she did take Neelix to Earth.

Which time pod? I don't recall Neelix ever actually being on earth.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2008-03-20 05:49pm

BountyHunterSAx wrote:I'd actually highly recommend to anyone in need of a laugh to go read Grinning Moon's 'contributions'...particularly how he went whining to Shep to 'tattle' on Darth Servo for calling him out on being a worthless palm-fucker.

-AHMAD

Huh what? Tattling to me?

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2008-03-20 06:04pm

MKSheppard wrote:
BountyHunterSAx wrote:I'd actually highly recommend to anyone in need of a laugh to go read Grinning Moon's 'contributions'...particularly how he went whining to Shep to 'tattle' on Darth Servo for calling him out on being a worthless palm-fucker.

-AHMAD
Huh what? Tattling to me?

He left a post on your User:Talk page. Weren't you paying attention?

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2008-03-20 06:30pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:
Kodiak wrote:As a bit of a nitpick, in the Janeway article among her crimes it lists that she "brought Neelix to Earth". IIRC, Neelix decided to stay w/ a Telaxian colony in the DQ, thus sparing Earth his idiocy.
Well in the time pod episode she did take Neelix to Earth.
Which time pod? I don't recall Neelix ever actually being on earth.

The time pod from the 29th century Federation that shows up and ends up sending Voyager to Earth in the past. Janeway gives Neelix the task of watching TV channels for some reason.

ray245 · Post by **ray245** » 2008-03-23 11:52am

Darth Servo wrote:
ray245 wrote:Should the wiki adopt a more tounge in cheek style for all of the articles?
I guess you haven't seen the captions on some of the pics.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... eanna_Troi
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... hp/Shinzon
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wiki/index.php/Argo
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wiki/index.php/Worf
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... php/Neelix
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... yn_Janeway

Well...I don't see much funny tone in regards to the star wars article...

Well...just to maintain a 'neutral' tone

wjs7744 · Post by **wjs7744** » 2008-03-24 06:08am

Why should the SDN wiki have a neutral tone?

ray245 · Post by **ray245** » 2008-03-24 08:57am

wjs7744 wrote:Why should the SDN wiki have a neutral tone?

So that it can be used by members on other site for debates as well?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2008-03-24 09:06am

ray245 wrote:
wjs7744 wrote:Why should the SDN wiki have a neutral tone?
So that it can be used by members on other site for debates as well?

There's a differenece between fucking research and outright ripping of material. If the material has an odd tone then you do more research to see whether or not the material is correct.

Jesus fuck, you are a moron at times.

wjs7744 · Post by **wjs7744** » 2008-03-24 09:53am

ray245 wrote:So that it can be used by members on other site for debates as well?

So you are suggesting that people ought to debate not by explaining their case, but simply by posting a link to the Wiki and saying "Lookie here!"?

Here's a challenge for you: Tell me the name of the logical fallacy that would be.

BountyHunterSAx · Post by **BountyHunterSAx** » 2008-03-24 10:48am

Is that really a logical fallacy, or just a just a debate-rule he's breaking? Technically speaking it can't be reduced into a p & !p contradiction, can it?

-AHMAD

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-03-24 12:03pm

Isolder74 wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Isolder74 wrote: Well in the time pod episode she did take Neelix to Earth.
Which time pod? I don't recall Neelix ever actually being on earth.
The time pod from the 29th century Federation that shows up and ends up sending Voyager to Earth in the past. Janeway gives Neelix the task of watching TV channels for some reason.

Right, I'd almost blocked that out. He was monitoring TV news broadcasts for any mention of suspicious alien activity. Thankfully, though, Neelix never set foot on our planet.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2008-03-24 12:35pm

BountyHunterSAx wrote:Is that really a logical fallacy, or just a just a debate-rule he's breaking?

I think he considers it an argument from authority.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-03-24 02:12pm

It qualifies as an appeal to authority, because when you post a link to an article on the Internet (unless you wrote it yourself), your argument basically boils down to "X is true because person Y says it's true". It doesn't even matter whether person Y has a good or bad argument; you can't say that an argument is valid just because somebody else agrees with you. At the very least, you must paraphrase it into your own words and then be prepared to defend it.

BountyHunterSAx · Post by **BountyHunterSAx** » 2008-03-24 05:13pm

I guess I just assumed you'd be prepared to defend it - but yes, taking responsibility for it by putting it in your own words and saying where you're taking it from to give credit makes that assumption concrete. Thanks for the tip.

-AHMAD

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-03-24 06:11pm

BountyHunterSAx wrote:I guess I just assumed you'd be prepared to defend it - but yes, taking responsibility for it by putting it in your own words and saying where you're taking it from to give credit makes that assumption concrete. Thanks for the tip.

-AHMAD

In practice, most link spammers are not prepared to defend the arguments they're linking to. In many cases, they have not even carefully read them to make sure that they actually agree with what they're saying.

It's actually amazing how often you'll see someone link to something, and if you actually take the time to read it, you discover that it's not saying what the person thinks it's saying. A lot of people engage in quote-mining; they simply Google phrases and when they find one in an article, especially one from a highly reputable source, they assume that the out-of-context quote summarizes the article. Then they link to it and proudly cite it as evidence, assuming that others will not take the time to read it through. If they do it with enough links, most people won't bother to read them all; that is part of the link-spamming tactic.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2008-03-26 01:15am

ray245 wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
ray245 wrote:Should the wiki adopt a more tounge in cheek style for all of the articles?
I guess you haven't seen the captions on some of the pics.
Well...I don't see much funny tone in regards to the star wars article...

There are some.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... .php/Watto
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... is_Valorum
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... A9_Amidala
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... ium_Falcon
http://www.stardestroyer.net/mrwong/wik ... /Palpatine

Swindle1984 · Post by **Swindle1984** » 2008-03-26 03:30pm

Darths Maul, Tyranus, and Vader have amusing image captions as well. Vader's is the most amusing, in my opinion.