Surlethe wrote:I must admit, that style of debate is rather unsettling. Even when you're wrong, calm contempt is a very effective psychological tactic. Ire has its place, too, especially for fun, but on net nanny boards your method is probably more effective because it will slip through the rules.
Indeed. I almost managed to run that arguement we had into the ground awhile back.
"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
TC Pilot wrote:I found it more effective to constantly project an attitude of calm contempt at my opponents, rather than become irate like DarthServo. It helps to deflect the sheer buffoonery of posters like SteveGojira and TrekkieforAsimov, since I don't care in the slightest what they think of me.
Believe it or not but I was civil when I first met Jay. He threw up his wall of ignorance and my civility didn't last long.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
Darth Servo wrote:Believe it or not but I was civil when I first met Jay. He threw up his wall of ignorance and my civility didn't last long.
Oh yes, very true. I don't mean to criticize you too harshly. You did an admirable job for Force knows how long dealing with this sort of rubbish. I doubt my patience will last that long.
"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
Surlethe wrote:I must admit, that style of debate is rather unsettling. Even when you're wrong, calm contempt is a very effective psychological tactic. Ire has its place, too, especially for fun, but on net nanny boards your method is probably more effective because it will slip through the rules.
Indeed. I almost managed to run that arguement we had into the ground awhile back.
I find that using images from here works pretty well, especially when you've just demolished someone's argument:
Its so fascinating watching those idiots squirm. Phoenix rants how the EU isn't canon and then turns around and uses EU numbers for the DS2
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
General Schatten wrote:A portion of the top and left side is missing, so that might be your problem.
Yes, I noticed that, but still I think I made a fairly good aproximation to the center. I believe my problem is, as Jark said the half pixels shaded, not so much on the star but on the cube, they make it look bigger than it really is. I think I have a higher quality image somewhere, I'll try measuring that.
General Schatten wrote:A portion of the top and left side is missing, so that might be your problem.
Yes, I noticed that, but still I think I made a fairly good aproximation to the center. I believe my problem is, as Jark said the half pixels shaded, not so much on the star but on the cube, they make it look bigger than it really is. I think I have a higher quality image somewhere, I'll try measuring that.
There's one that has the DS1, DS2, and a few other Trek ships on it, but I can't find it anymore.
"Impossible! Lasers can't even harm out deflector dish! Clearly these foes are masters of illusion!' 'But sir, my console says we-' 'MASTERS OF ILLUSION! - General Schatten
Darth Servo wrote:Its so fascinating watching those idiots squirm. Phoenix rants how the EU isn't canon and then turns around and uses EU numbers for the DS2
What do you expect from a Darkstar acolyte?
I find it most amusing that Darkstar and his flunkies try and only use the movies, but when they try and prove Docking Bay 94 was made of dirt, they use a novelization quote to back it up. Especially amusing when the quote simply says it was a "dug out pit" and says nothing about the walls.
ANGELUS wrote:Yes, I noticed that, but still I think I made a fairly good aproximation to the center. I believe my problem is, as Jark said the half pixels shaded, not so much on the star but on the cube, they make it look bigger than it really is. I think I have a higher quality image somewhere, I'll try measuring that.
I made a quick drawing in Paint to illustrate the size difference.
No, this one was in full color, and showed them in detail (DS2 at its further completion, etc.)
However, that pic is new to me, and I thank you for it. It should prove most useful in the future. Thank you.
"Impossible! Lasers can't even harm out deflector dish! Clearly these foes are masters of illusion!' 'But sir, my console says we-' 'MASTERS OF ILLUSION! - General Schatten
General Schatten wrote:Seriously, are Jays claims that Asimov is someone here true? Because I refuse to believe we have such a moron here.
Search functions reveal no post from any user with 'Asimov' in their name.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
That was one of them yes. The other picture had the two Moons o' doom in them.
Thanks a bunch servo.
As an aside, I'm really confused by what Asimov is saying, as embarassing as this is, can someone give me the 'for dummies' version?
"Impossible! Lasers can't even harm out deflector dish! Clearly these foes are masters of illusion!' 'But sir, my console says we-' 'MASTERS OF ILLUSION! - General Schatten
I don't think even Asimov understands what Asimov is saying.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
I think Stevegorija is in love with finding big words to use. He throws them around but never bothers to argue. Obviously he can't, because if he could argue at all he wouldn't have to sit on the sidelines throwing out insults like some pseudo-intellectual prick.
RazorOutlaw wrote:I think Stevegorija is in love with finding big words to use.
Yes, I think I hit a nerve. He got a bit defensive when I mentioned anyone can include big words in their posts like that simply using MS Word's thesaurus.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
This is the problem when kiddies argue and pretend to be experts; they try to use tricks to pretend theyr'e something other than what they really are. Before they even make an argument, they're already lying.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
I know. At least when i make a stupid comment, and get called on it, I pony up to it.
When I post on that site, they can't even come up with a reply besides flames. I consider myself a lousy debater. But these guys can't even comprehend debate at MY level.
No wonder they have to flame you guys. Its the only response their brains can come up with.
Darth Wong wrote:This is the problem when kiddies argue and pretend to be experts; they try to use tricks to pretend theyr'e something other than what they really are. Before they even make an argument, they're already lying.
They're liars. And what's worse, after you pull the carpet out from under them continuing to harass you is a matter of pride. If they quit at any point then they're somehow wrong. Pointing out that they're just flapping their gums (as Servo has done many times basically) just brings comments of being immature and "why don't you get off our boards!!!!!!!!"
Seriously, it makes me sick and I'm not even in the debate. I've just seen it enough times to know when somebody is being that fake.
If this debate is so important for them that they will lie their asses off in order to "win", I wonder what sociopathic, egoistic little shits they are in real life.
Especially amusing when the quote simply says it was a "dug out pit" and says nothing about the walls.
