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Hurumph. Isreal almost certainly has Nuclear weapons, and Syria knows it, so I am not sure what Syria is trying to do or to accomplish. Failing that, this some sort of joke cooked up by someone to comemorate the Six day war.
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I have another question on that regard.

What are the chances that Iran will make an actual alliance with Syria?
I mean not only financial and technological aid, but sending their army to the front!
If this happens, then to what extent - how much of their forces will the Iranians be willing to spare, and what would this mean for Israel?
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MagnusTheReD wrote:If this happens, then to what extent - how much of their forces will the Iranians be willing to spare, and what would this mean for Israel?
Probably that you're in big trouble, then benovolent America jumps in and says under no condition will we allow them to attack Israel and we start bombing the shit out of Iran and moving troops from Iraq to Israel.
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General Schatten wrote:Probably that you're in big trouble,
Is Iran really that powerful?
I know they are a capable force, but I don't think they're that powerful! I don't think they can win on our turf.
But that's my personal opinion, which is largely based on educated speculations.
What I don't know is what technology would Iran deploy in that conflict, how good is it?
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MagnusTheReD wrote:Is Iran really that powerful?
I know they are a capable force, but I don't think they're that powerful! I don't think they can win on our turf.
But that's my personal opinion, which is largely based on educated speculations.
What I don't know is what technology would Iran deploy in that conflict, how good is it?
Probably not by themselves, no, but with all the help they'll be getting it could be. Remember you won't only be fighting them, it'll also be Syria and possibly Hezbullah.
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Todays newspapers: IDF North Command prepares for large conflict. -Freehand translation.

General Schatten wrote:
MagnusTheReD wrote:Is Iran really that powerful?
I know they are a capable force, but I don't think they're that powerful! I don't think they can win on our turf.
But that's my personal opinion, which is largely based on educated speculations.
What I don't know is what technology would Iran deploy in that conflict, how good is it?
Probably not by themselves, no, but with all the help they'll be getting it could be. Remember you won't only be fighting them, it'll also be Syria and possibly Hezbullah.
Theres a complicating factor there. Much of the striking force of Hezbullah is weapons given to them by Syrian groups, through Iran. In an event of a general war, I doubt the resupplies would flow as quickly to hezbullah and it could conciveably run out of ammunition quickly.
Still, 600 peeps DID tie up 20K IDF soldiers(10K regular, 10K reservists or so) for an entire month. :wink:

It's basically a question what form a war will take, if it's similar to last summer, a holding action while rockets rain on Israel, I'm not sure if it will be differant, but if it's a full scale war...
Well, atlast we'll see if American MLRS batteries are actully effective in wiping out tank divisions. :D
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MI: Syria's Assad preparing for war, but won't initiate

By Aluf Benn and Amos Harel


The security cabinet will hold a discussion this morning on the situation on the Syrian and Lebanese borders and the likelihood of war in the north. Central to the discussions will be intelligence assessments about the growing strength of both the Syrian army and Hezbollah, as well as about the intentions of Syrian President Bashar Assad. The majority view in Military Intelligence holds that Assad is well placed to carry out a a surprise attack on the Golan Heights, but is unlikely to initiate a war.

The Military Intelligence assessments that will be presented to the security cabinet today say that the Syrian army is deployed along the Golan Heights with beefed-up forces, having moved units of large-caliber rockets, similar to the ones Hezbollah launched against Haifa during the Second Lebanon War, up to the front. Intelligence reports also note that the Syrian army has improved its fortifications and has received modern, Russian-made antitank and anti-aircraft missiles.

The Israel Defense Forces, meanwhile, continued its preparations yesterday with an attack on, and occupation of, a "Syrian" village during a major exercise in the Negev. Observing the exercise were Defense Minister Amir Peretz and Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi. Similar exercises in recent years had involved the occupation of "Palestinian" villages.

The structure of the village was similar to the ghost towns on the Syrian side of the Golan Heights, which Military Intelligence maintain are being used by the Syrian army as defensive positions against the possibility of an Israeli attack.

"We are preparing for the possibility of deterioration both on the Palestinian front and also, if we have to take action, on the northern front," Ashkenazi said after the exercise.

Israel is concerned that Syria might initiate a surprise attack in an effort to make rapid but limited gains on the Golan. The goal would be to capture a small piece of territory that could serve as a catalyst for a diplomatic process that would result in an Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights.

Security sources say there is concern that the Syrian deployments enable the Syrian forces to embark on a sudden, surprise attack. Such action would be accompanied by a massive barrage of rockets from Hezbollah's positions north of the Litani River.

The Israeli concerns have been intensified by the flow of intelligence reports about improved coordination and joint operations among Iran, Syria and Hezbollah. Commanders from all three forces held joint reconnaissance tours, and their arms procurement is similar, allowing Iran to supply Syria and Hezbollah with munitions and arms in time of war.

For their part, Palestinian militant organizations, such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad, whose leadership is hosted by Syria, are not part of the joint military preparedness of Syria, Iran and Hezbollah, and there is no information involving them in a military operation along the northern border.

The dominant assessment of Military Intelligence, which has been laid out before the political leadership, suggests that in spite the improved capabilities of the Syrian army, and the risk of a sudden attack, Assad does not intend, at this stage, to start a war with Israel. One of the scenarios that intelligence has put forth is that the Syrians and the Iranians are worried about an American attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, and they are preparing for the possibility of opening a second front against Israel on the Golan Heights and through Hezbollah in Lebanon in retaliation.

On the other hand, a minority view in Military Intelligence argues that the Syrian preparedness, the training and arms buildup signal Assad's readiness to carry out an offensive in a bid to restore the Golan Heights to Syria because Assad is convinced that Israeli public opinion rejects, at this stage, negotiations for a solution.

Senior IDF officers have put forth a third scenario, in which Syria will succeed in forcing Israel to negotiate the return of the Golan Heights, merely through the threat of military action.
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Ace Pace wrote:The structure of the village was similar to the ghost towns on the Syrian side of the Golan Heights, which Military Intelligence maintain are being used by the Syrian army as defensive positions against the possibility of an Israeli attack.
It's either I'm not getting something, or it's them being complete morons :?
If there is no civilians in those towns, what would stop Israel from reducing them to rubble with artillery or air strikes?
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MagnusTheReD wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:The structure of the village was similar to the ghost towns on the Syrian side of the Golan Heights, which Military Intelligence maintain are being used by the Syrian army as defensive positions against the possibility of an Israeli attack.
It's either I'm not getting something, or it's them being complete morons :?
If there is no civilians in those towns, what would stop Israel from reducing them to rubble with artillery or air strikes?
Whats to stop them from bringing in human shields and claiming they were innocent civilians?
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Posturing as a way to take some of the "glory" out of the '67 afterglow festivities.

Syria doesn't have the ass to do it; they're trying to make nice to the US since Pelosi's visit; they have Turkey to worry about as well (getting nervous about Kurdistan); Lebanon is still problematic; Iran doesn't have the airlift capacity to do anything right now...

In all, Bashar Assad is trying to be mini-Nasser of the Week.
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