Inquisitor Ryan wrote:
Indeed according to our discussion group any lengths of spaceships mentioned in any book not written by Dan Abnett is regarded as either non-canon or non-standard. (Due to the fact that in a discussion that lasted well over a month we came to the conclusion that the books written by people other than Abnett did not capture the spirit, technology etc of Warhammer 40'000 as GW portrayed it.) I'm not saying that they are non-canon just that our personal discussion group ruled out most books as official source due to conflicts and contradictions much like the star wars books.
After Ravenor its pretty obvious that Abnett has serious gaps in his grasp of 40k and anything he writes needs to be very carefully considered in light of other sources.
Inquisitor Ryan wrote:
Indeed according to our discussion group any lengths of spaceships mentioned in any book not written by Dan Abnett is regarded as either non-canon or non-standard. (Due to the fact that in a discussion that lasted well over a month we came to the conclusion that the books written by people other than Abnett did not capture the spirit, technology etc of Warhammer 40'000 as GW portrayed it.) I'm not saying that they are non-canon just that our personal discussion group ruled out most books as official source due to conflicts and contradictions much like the star wars books.
After Ravenor its pretty obvious that Abnett has serious gaps in his grasp of 40k and anything he writes needs to be very carefully considered in light of other sources.
LP
Go for it sunshine, prove that little bit of commentary for me
BTW White_rabbit, I love that sig, can I have the code to put it in mine?
Sure, I think you can just copy paste the image yes ?
Those were very nicely done, and the above two are my favorites.
I don't know what you did to the hull of the Ork ships, but it seems to hint at more detail. If you use that same texturing on the Imperial and Ramillies, those would be beautiful.
Go for it sunshine, prove that little bit of commentary for me
BTW White_rabbit, I love that sig, can I have the code to put it in mine?
Sure, I think you can just copy paste the image yes ?
I just put mine on photo-bucket.
I found Ravenor running into a really really powerful psyker and never once checking his papers to be a pretty important problem. There's lot of little inconsitancies throughout 40k novels(Another of Abnetts include Eisenhorn offering thanks to the primarch of a chapter) but the behavior of Ravenor towards the psyker was really strange.
No, he Eisenhorn does not give thanks to a Primarch. He makes sure that a certain Space Marine's heroism is remembered and celebrated by the Primarch of his chapter. This is far from a glaring mistake, it's quite clear Abnett meant "chapter master". I didn't even notice it, and obviously neither did the the editor. You're gonna need stronger evidence to support "Dan Abnett does not understand 40k".
Good point, it was a slip a very simple slip, indeed perhaps their Primarch isn't dead. Nothing says every Primarch is dead.
Found the quote:
I have made a point to have his name and memory celebrated by the Primarch of the White Consuls.
I never read anywhere that the White Consuls Primarch was dead. Even if he is like has been said, it could have been an editors mistake, a damn printing mistake that no-one picked up on. I sure as hell know I didn't until you mentioned it and I pick up on inconsitancies in sci-fi very quickly.
Reality is like a kick in the balls, you see something you like and WHAM!
I'll admit the Primarch line is a nitpicky point. I wish I had used another author to illustrate the fact that the 40k novels have a lot of inconsistancies and mistakes throughout them.
My biggest complaint with Abnett still lies with the central plot of Ravenor which I just find to be significantly wrong enough that the idea of using Abnett as the exclusive source to be retarded. He's one of the best of the 40k authors, but his stuff still needs to be looked at in light of the other books, particularly codexes.
LapsedPacifist wrote:My biggest complaint with Abnett still lies with the central plot of Ravenor which I just find to be significantly wrong enough that the idea of using Abnett as the exclusive source to be retarded. He's one of the best of the 40k authors, but his stuff still needs to be looked at in light of the other books, particularly codexes.
LP
I can't comment on Ravenor, but I'll agree with teh rest of what you say. Abnett is a very good author, but he's hardly the ultimate source. The other people who have a hand in shaping the universe need to be taken into account. Even worthless writers like Goto.
