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DC Mongolians Seek Genghis Khan Statue

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Read about it in the Post Commuter edition this morning, but it's on a local new site...

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Washington (AP) - He's one of the most famous names of the last millennium, and he's the father of his country, which turns 800 years old this year.

That's why the D.C. region's growing Mongolian community - with a large concentration in Arlington County - would like to see a statue erected of Genghis Khan, the George Washington of Mongolia.

The Mongolian embassy, in D.C.'s Georgetown neighborhood, has inquired with the State Department and had preliminary discussions with a contractor who works with embassies.

Supporters of the statue say the popular image in the West of the Khan as a ruthless barbarian invader gives Americans a misconception of a leader who some historians say was ahead of his time and progressive in many ways.

Genghis Khan established an empire based on religious tolerance in an age where the Crusades and religious wars were commonplace, his advocates say. He was an ardent free trader, and established principles of diplomatic immunity.

A statue would be a good way of highlighting some of those overlooked traits, said G. Ganbold, the embassy's consul-general.

"We are eager to make the people of both cultures get to know one another," Ganbold said. "Genghis Khan is the one person who best represents what Mongolia stands for."

Getting it built may be difficult, though. Statues require approval from either the National Park Service, if on federal land, or the District of Columbia, if on city land.

The particular spot eyed by the Mongolians, near their embassy, is on city land. Michael Johnson, a spokesman for the city's Office of Planning, declined comment on whether Genghis Khan would be an appropriate historical figure to honor with a statue, saying he didn't want to prejudge an issue before a formal application is made.

But he said the city gives strong preference to local figures rather than foreign ones.

Still, many statues in the city honor foreign heroes. The world famous excommunicate, Martin Luther, is honored at Thomas Circle, and one of the tallest statues in the city honors South America's Great Liberator, Simon Bolivar.

Other statues include Joan of Arc; Jose Artigas, the father of Uruguayan independence; Ukrainian poet Taras Shevchenko, and French artist Louis Daguerre.

In academic circles, Western historians have begun taking a revisionist view of Genghis Khan. A 2004 book by anthropology professor Jack Weatherford, "Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World," spent several weeks on the best-seller list and offered a more sympathetic portrayal.

Still, the popular view of Genghis Khan as warmonger is hard to dispel. And it is not baseless. While cities that acquiesced to Mongol rule received relatively enlightened treatment, the Mongols did indeed engage in wholesale slaughter of those who refused to submit to their rule. They were particularly quick to kill aristocrats from resisting cities - an uncommon practice at the time.

What's more, they encouraged the few who were allowed to survive to go out and spread the word to other cities about the consequences of resistance, which helped enshrine their reputation as ruthless, bloodthirsty conquerors.

"I think we're suffering from the mindset of the vanquished," said William Fitzhugh, an anthropologist and director of the Arctic Studies Center at the Smithsonian's Museum of natural History. "But people are now more willing to take a look at the other side."

The Smithsonian, in conjunction with the Mongolian Embassy, is sponsoring a Mongolian Family Festival this weekend that will include lectures and demonstrations of Mongolian wrestling and throat singing and a celebration of the Mongolian state's 800th anniversary.

Part of the reason Americans know so little about Mongolia, Fitzhugh said, is the nation's isolation during its Communist era. In the last decade, though, the D.C. area and Arlington County, in particular, have seen rapid growth in the Mongolian population. With an estimated Mongolian population of 2,000 to 3,000, the D.C. area now rivals a more established community in Denver as the largest Mongolian enclave in the United States.

The Mongolian community's ability to emigrate and rapidly adapt to American life is not surprising, since Mongolians have long been a nomadic people.

"Mongolians have always proven adept at adjusting to new situations," said S. Dawadash, the embassy's second secretary.

I suppose in that he was an equal-oppurtunity crazy, then yes, his empire was one of Religious tolerance. :)
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KHAAAAAN!!!

Hey, he forged the largest fucking empire in the world, and if the Shadow movie was correct, people called him God-Emperor, so why not?! And they say ten percent of all Asiatic folks are the spawn of his loins! By all means, there should be monoliths with his face on 'em!
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I approve of this if they put a plack on the foot of the statue that says:

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His Divine Shadow wrote:I approve of this if they put a plack on the foot of the statue that says:

WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE?

TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THEIR WOMEN
:lol: That would be great. :lol:
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I know there's a huge face of KHAN in Mongolia, on a mountain outside the capital... so why don't the DC Mongolians try to make a Mt.Rushmore version of Khan? :lol:
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If I'm not mistaken, "Genghis Khan" means "Emperor of the Universe"...his actual name was Temujin.

And considering that he was generally pretty nice to any people who didn't resist his rule, he's at least a cut above most other warlords of that era.
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I once read an interesting story about Genghis in a history text book. During a battle, a soldier from the opposing army managed to knock Khan off his horse. When his men rushed to kill the soldier, not only did Genghis stop them and spare the soldiers life, but he actually offered him a spot in his army.
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Perhaps the pedestal could be a bronze pyramid of human skulls.
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RedImperator wrote:Perhaps the pedestal could be a bronze pyramid of human skulls.
If it were, I would HAVE to get my picture taken with that.
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Yeah, to be honest, I would totally support that.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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Genghis KHHHAAAANNN!!!

I would personally love to see this, I might even visit.
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One possible model:

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Jason von Evil wrote:I once read an interesting story about Genghis in a history text book. During a battle, a soldier from the opposing army managed to knock Khan off his horse. When his men rushed to kill the soldier, not only did Genghis stop them and spare the soldiers life, but he actually offered him a spot in his army.
The thing about a Mongolia is that at the time it was ruled much like rural Afghanistan is, except with more weapons. Nomadic tribes would fight and alliances were few and far between. Ghengis Khan was a military genius because he capitalized on the strengths of that mayhem and realized its limitations.
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Remember The Shadow? What did that latin plaque on Khan's sarcophagus say, again? All I got was Emperor of Man, but I know I heard a lot of awesome shit from that crazed psyker Khan descendant.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:I approve of this if they put a plack on the foot of the statue that says:

WHAT IS BEST IN LIFE?

TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THEIR WOMEN
He actually said something more to the effect of "to take the weeping women of your enemies into your arms".
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RedImperator wrote:Perhaps the pedestal could be a bronze pyramid of human skulls.
But that's too subtle.
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Stofsk wrote:
RedImperator wrote:Perhaps the pedestal could be a bronze pyramid of human skulls.
But that's too subtle.
It would be more suited to a statue of Timur-i langanyways.
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hey the souix have their crazy horse rushmore in construction why not a khan statue on the grounds owned by the mongolian embassy?
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Patrick Degan wrote:One possible model:

http://perso.orange.fr/diego.vega/portr ... 20khan.jpg
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Personally I'd rather see the incarnation of Genghis Khan that rode a skateboard, wore football armor and weilded a baseball bat while fighting alongside Billy the Kid. :lol:
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Kuja wrote:Personally I'd rather see the incarnation of Genghis Khan that rode a skateboard, wore football armor and weilded a baseball bat while fighting alongside Billy the Kid. :lol:
you know if Bill and Ted had just let them Team up I would have felt really sorry for the English.....


ERm what's france fielding this time, a teenaged girl agian?

Cannons, more cannons, infantry with rifles, and more horse cal then you can shake a stick at armed with six shot revolvers. (looks at Billy the Kid and Temunjin leading the Cal. attacks)
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Xeriar wrote:
He actually said something more to the effect of "to take the weeping women of your enemies into your arms".
Goddamn Mongrorians arways attacking my sitty wall!
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