Thank you, thank you for making my life so very easy. It was so nice of you to read all the user reviews you could find in order to make sure you were making a good decision. Then you walked the extra mile and read the Radio Shack circular, too. You are so good to me. I am glad that you decided to bring home that shiny new router, attach all the wires just right, and then click your way through the setup wizard at the speed of light. You make my life much more pleasant.
Now I can click my way merrily across the internet, doing as I please. I don’t even have to worry about the sites that I go to. If I want to look at nuclear bomb plans, so be it. If I want to join in a forum discussion on the proper way to engage in intercourse with a mule, it is my prerogative. I can even download all the movies and music that I want to, without any fear of repercussion. I somehow doubt that you have this level of internet invincibility, though, do you?
The price is not as bad as I expected. I am getting a lot out of my one time fee of thirty dollars. As it turns out, buying a wireless network card is much cheaper than even one month of cable internet. I was not really happy about paying sixty dollars a month for service, but that is a thing of the past now. I am glad that I took the time to do some comparison shopping between internet service providers. I found out that yours was the cheapest by far! Thank you for being my digital sugar-daddy.
It amazes me how generous you are! I know that you have looked at your router and seen that little glowing light that should not have been glowing. I am sure you went “Hmm, what the hell is this crap?” and went directly to your manual. I am sure you took the time out of your busy day to find out that I was accepting your kind offer of free internet service. You still let me have all the bandwidth that I can use, though. I would be indebted to you, if I had any clue as to your real identity. You are my anonymous benefactor, and I know you only as “default”.
It would have been easy for you to turn on your encryption, and lock me out in the cold wasteland of old technology. I would have been forced to spend my money on internet service, and not on the finer things in life that I would rather have. While I am eating my wonderful dry-aged steak this evening I promise that I will think of you and your kindness. I will softy shake my head and smile, and then I will laugh and laugh and laugh. I love stealing your internet, and I love you for letting me.
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It would have been a more effective warning if they'd replaced, say, nuclear bomb plans with kiddie porn. Otherwise most people simply either aren't going to care or are too dumb to realise they should encrypt their own network.Dominus Atheos wrote:No, it's supposed to be a warning.Uraniun235 wrote:Is... is this supposed to be funny or something?
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I have 3 wireless routers:
Now which router do you think paranoid old Glocksman is actually using?![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Though given the fact that there are several unencrypted routers within a block of my location, I probably could get by with plain old 64 bit WEP.![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
- A Linksys WRT 54G v4 that supports WEP, WPA, and WPA2
- A Netgear WGR 614 v6 that supports WEP and WPA
- A Zyxel P-334W that supports WEP and WPA
Now which router do you think paranoid old Glocksman is actually using?
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Though given the fact that there are several unencrypted routers within a block of my location, I probably could get by with plain old 64 bit WEP.
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This guy is about a tenth as clever as he thinks he is. Anyone who actually drives around peoples' neighbourhoods looking for unencrypted wireless "hot spots" so he can access the Internet is a fucking loser.
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Not only that, but given the US $3.00+/gallon cost of fuel, I doubt he's saving any money at all by doing so.Darth Wong wrote:This guy is about a tenth as clever as he thinks he is. Anyone who actually drives around peoples' neighbourhoods looking for unencrypted wireless "hot spots" so he can access the Internet is a fucking loser.
Plus he's risking arrest for public indecency when he gets caught jerking off to net porn in his car.
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Seconded. I do that all the time anyway.Uraniun235 wrote:Is... is this supposed to be funny or something?
Weak.I don’t even have to worry about the sites that I go to. If I want to look at nuclear bomb plans, so be it. If I want to join in a forum discussion on the proper way to engage in intercourse with a mule, it is my prerogative.
Nukey Nukey Nukey.
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And then all we need is the cop to take a picture of this loser, slap a nice '0wn3d' on iut in a suitable font, and upload it to the internet. Self-perpetuating web-powered hilarity for the whole family!Glocksman wrote:Not only that, but given the US $3.00+/gallon cost of fuel, I doubt he's saving any money at all by doing so.Darth Wong wrote:This guy is about a tenth as clever as he thinks he is. Anyone who actually drives around peoples' neighbourhoods looking for unencrypted wireless "hot spots" so he can access the Internet is a fucking loser.
Plus he's risking arrest for public indecency when he gets caught jerking off to net porn in his car.
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Depending on the density of your neighbourhood you may not even have to go past your front door to connect to some one else's internet. I know a few people in Toronto that aren't paying for internet because they're in a high density area.
I'm out in the boonies and for some one to use my wireless would mean they would have to park in my drive way... that would drive the dog absolutely bonkers.
Now I'm not sure on the legality (I haven't read the exact laws pertaining to the issue) of it but my understanding is in the USA it's not illegal to use some one else's wireless connection unless it's an obvious private connection where in Canada the opposite is true, unless the connection is obviously public (ie named "public" or signs saying "Blahnet is free for public use") you are not allowed to use the connection. Though not putting some form of encryption in is pure stupidity.
Personally I think that the initial set up should have a default password on the unit, like it's own password that you read off the bottom of the unit.
I'm out in the boonies and for some one to use my wireless would mean they would have to park in my drive way... that would drive the dog absolutely bonkers.
Now I'm not sure on the legality (I haven't read the exact laws pertaining to the issue) of it but my understanding is in the USA it's not illegal to use some one else's wireless connection unless it's an obvious private connection where in Canada the opposite is true, unless the connection is obviously public (ie named "public" or signs saying "Blahnet is free for public use") you are not allowed to use the connection. Though not putting some form of encryption in is pure stupidity.
Personally I think that the initial set up should have a default password on the unit, like it's own password that you read off the bottom of the unit.
May you live in interesting times.
Does living in your car stealing bandwidth, now replace Living in your parents basement??Darth Wong wrote:This guy is about a tenth as clever as he thinks he is. Anyone who actually drives around peoples' neighbourhoods looking for unencrypted wireless "hot spots" so he can access the Internet is a fucking loser.
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Damn internet ate my post oh well.theski wrote:Does living in your car stealing bandwidth, now replace Living in your parents basement??Darth Wong wrote:This guy is about a tenth as clever as he thinks he is. Anyone who actually drives around peoples' neighbourhoods looking for unencrypted wireless "hot spots" so he can access the Internet is a fucking loser.
Its called wardring and is very popular among social engineering attacks. Part of my new job is the inspect computer secruity at the base I am assigned to. And during our last check we found 2 open access points coming from a secured location and several dozens from housing and barracks. We then spent the next few days tracking all these people down and explaining proper internet security.
Most of the computer security exams really harp on protecting wireless access points. Hell even after a full month of taking classes where they tought us all sorts of secrutity stuff even including how to spoof emails, plant trojans and a few other clue tricks my own pc was hijacked.
Well, I've done this once (and tried to do it a few other times but failed) when lost and looking for directions w/ mapquest.Darth Wong wrote:This guy is about a tenth as clever as he thinks he is. Anyone who actually drives around peoples' neighbourhoods looking for unencrypted wireless "hot spots" so he can access the Internet is a fucking loser.
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Part of the problem is that most units begin transmitting wireless networking signals by default as soon as you power it on. I agree that there should be an initial setup you have to run - which includes a mandatory not-suck password (i.e. to prevent someone from using something like "password" or "12345") - before it even starts transmitting.Lisa wrote:Personally I think that the initial set up should have a default password on the unit, like it's own password that you read off the bottom of the unit.
Depends. I know there's at least some areas of the US where connecting to a wireless network without explicit authorization is illegal.Now I'm not sure on the legality (I haven't read the exact laws pertaining to the issue) of it but my understanding is in the USA it's not illegal to use some one else's wireless connection unless it's an obvious private connection where in Canada the opposite is true, unless the connection is obviously public (ie named "public" or signs saying "Blahnet is free for public use") you are not allowed to use the connection.
*quickly scans laptop from computer desk.*Lisa wrote:Depending on the density of your neighbourhood you may not even have to go past your front door to connect to some one else's internet.
Heres what I got from the back room of my apartment, I don't have a wireles router. These are just the people I can scan from this desk. I know there are atleast 7 more within scanning range of my apartment, with weird names like cheesecake, and gwheniver, etc..
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00:14:bf:31:4d:02 0 191 [WPA2-PSK-CCMP] onethreethreeseven
00:11:50:5f:d9:63 0 173 [WPA-PSK-TKIP] belkin54g
00:0f:b5:63:1a:20 0 185 [WEP] <hidden>
00:14:bf:d0:4a:06 0 181 [WEP] benz
00:14:bf:7c:50:e2 0 180 [WEP] jaimito
00:0c:41:71:93:72 0 174 [WEP] dario
00:09:5b:dd:29:10 0 185 martini
00:0f:b5:28:18:fe 0 181 NETGEAR
00:0c:41:6f:1e:a8 0 184 kataria
00:0f:66:d7:71:21 0 179 linksys
00:14:bf:0f:c4:46 0 179 4226
00:0f:b5:ea:ca:52 0 179 NETGEAR
00:0c:41:ab:41:a6 0 176 linksys
00:80:c8:0a:1f:18 0 174 default
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If someone does that, there's a pretty short suspect list: your next-door neighbours.Lisa wrote:Depending on the density of your neighbourhood you may not even have to go past your front door to connect to some one else's internet. I know a few people in Toronto that aren't paying for internet because they're in a high density area.
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My area is rows of brownstones and I pick up 12, 4 of which are not secured. I can get a steady signal from 1 using my laptop's built in card; 2 more are easily accessable with my PCcard and I suspect I could get that last one with a more powerful reciever.
Of course back home where it is houses every acre or so you've got to go trek'ing to find one, and because of that no one secures their networks.
Of course back home where it is houses every acre or so you've got to go trek'ing to find one, and because of that no one secures their networks.
My WRT 54G has a button on the front marked 'Secure Easy Setup', but I'm not sure how it works as I configure everything manually.Uraniun235 wrote:Part of the problem is that most units begin transmitting wireless networking signals by default as soon as you power it on. I agree that there should be an initial setup you have to run - which includes a mandatory not-suck password (i.e. to prevent someone from using something like "password" or "12345") - before it even starts transmitting.Lisa wrote:Personally I think that the initial set up should have a default password on the unit, like it's own password that you read off the bottom of the unit.
What I ought to do is just plug in one of my spare wireless routers and let it broadcast unencrypted* while not connected to anything.
Can't you see some dumbass leecher trying to surf the net and getting nothing on his end?
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Meh. So much less work to just run a few lengths of cat5 than to set up a secure wireless network and worry about people finding a way in. It's not that much of a burden to have to plug a cable in to go online, even for a laptop.
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Maybe it's easier to string out Cat5 if you're a college student and living with a few friends in a studio apartment, but if you're in a house, like, with more than one floor or room, it's a pain in the ass to run that wire through the walls, ceilings and so on. Setting up a secure wireless network takes a grand total of five fucking minutes of your time and you don't even have to get your lazy ass out of the barcalounger.
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