nBSG: do you want them to reach Earth ?

[Calrissian]

We're almost up to the mid-season break of season 2, things are cruising along at a storming pace. What keeps coming to mind though is the following fundamental aspect of this show...

Q. Do you want to see the Galactica reach Earth ?

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Personally, I really want to have it happen, and I'm not even talking about just having it happen during the very last episode of the final ever season. I'd be happy to see them make it by season 4 or 5 (we can hope it last that long, can't we?).

Drawbacks?
Hmm, just what could be 'acceptable' to the fans?

Might we see the Earth of 2250, with Starships flying around in orbit and a semi-utopian world government? I certainly can't see them reaching a 'rural' pre-industrial Earth, it would be easier to film of course, but then where does the fleet go from there?

*I have this kooky fear that one day the Galactica will reach Earth only to find the Enterprise'F in Orbit Battlestar Galactica meets Star Trek ? I can imagine the fan outrage on that scenario ! It'd certainly make for a freaky ass ending to 4, 5 or even 7 years of this wonderful story.

Calrissian: So Say We All

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Honestly, at this point, I have no idea.

[Crazedwraith]

Reaching Earth could be don ewell. Reaching our Earth probably not so good. (cough1980cough)

The idea of the mreaching earth and finding prehistoric slobs or a postnuclear waste land sound appealing though.

[DocHorror]

I think it'd be much better to just have them reach Earth when the show ends (season 12 ) after narrowly defeating the Cylons, etc...

[Faram]

I think it'd be much better to just have them reach Earth when the show ends (season 12 ) after narrowly defeating the Cylons, etc...

Naa nBSG shold live on like "Days of our Life" or somthing.

[Calrissian]

The idea of the mreaching earth and finding prehistoric slobs or a postnuclear waste land sound appealing though.

Ohh I do like the idea of a postnuked waste land.

Can you imagine the look on Adama's face when he realises the 13'th colony are so dumb as to have killed themselves off. Sure, let there be a few survivors to relate the tale, but mostly, it would just be a battered and glass covered Earth.

When I first saw Battlestar 1980' - as a child I was delighted they finally got there, although of course...that particular part of the old show was pretty bad.

I'm sure they could make it work this time though !

[Hotfoot]

I've been rather fond of the concept that Earth is Cylon Central, it's where they went for so long, and it's where they're drawing the humans in to, either as some sort of trap, or test of salvation, or some other very fucked up thing.

[Calrissian]

I've been rather fond of the concept that Earth is Cylon Central, it's where they went for so long, and it's where they're drawing the humans in to, either as some sort of trap, or test of salvation, or some other very fucked up thing.

Thats an amazing scenario.
The cylons 'go off to call a world their own' for 40 years or so - which turns out to be Earth. Then Adama and his merry Fleet end up being greeted with the sight of the 13'th colony being the cylon homeworld.

*I do wonder just how much of the fan stuff/speculation that mr moore et al' read. I doubt they have everything rigidly planned out for a few years, and bet they are considering some of the crazy ideas across the many forums.

[Uraniun235]

Galactica has to find Earth eventually. I wouldn't have a problem with them ending a season close to Earth, making a TV movie (better yet, a theatrical release?) about actually reaching Earth, and then resuming the series. But if they don't reach Earth, then everything about the Arrow of Apollo was wasted and we were lead on a big tease and it would suck. There has to be some payoff after "Home".

They could probably have gotten away with never going to Earth back in the beginning of the series (and while I wouldn't prefer it, I would accept it) but not now.

Can you imagine the look on Adama's face when he realises the 13'th colony are so dumb as to have killed themselves off. Sure, let there be a few survivors to relate the tale, but mostly, it would just be a battered and glass covered Earth.

Oh, barf. That wouldn't play well at all, it'd just be a bunch of reaction shots, a bunch of bitching about the situation, and a "well I guess we have to go on." That's not a pay-off at all, that's just a "hurr hurr humanity is stupid" ending with lots of angst to go around... and last I checked this was Battlestar Galactica not Battlestar LiveJournal.

I think it'd be much better to just have them reach Earth when the show ends after narrowly defeating the Cylons, etc...

Somehow I doubt very much that Moore is willing to end the show in a fashion so similar to that of ST: Voyager's ending.

Might we see the Earth of 2250, with Starships flying around in orbit and a semi-utopian world government?

Why 2250? Why a semi-utopian world government? Why a world government, for that matter?

Earth as the Cylon homeworld seems a bit too obvious, though... besides, one would think that as they got closer, the number of Basestars they ran into would be too much for them to handle.

[Thag]

They definitely need to either reach Earth or find confirmation that Earth is just ahead before they end the series.

Of course, I'd love it if they run into the GTVA, but that's just me.

[NecronLord]

I've said it before, but I'd be incredibly amused by them, say, running into a B5 Earth Alliance cruiser... The reaction to: "Earth Alliance Destroyer Agamemnon to unidentified vesses" would be priceless...

But no, reaching, say, this Earth would suck arse.

[CDiehl]

I would have them reach Earth, but not our Earth. They find an Earth with technology similar to their own, with some significant differences.

It turns out that after Earth's environment collapsed, humanity moved to Kobol. The 13th Tribe is descended from humans who dedicated themselves to restoring Earth. They never forgot the 12 Colonies, and hoped to hear from them for so long, some even began to believe they were a myth. So, it is with joy and sorrow they receive Galactica.

The Colonials get a shock when they learn that much of Earth's military is androids, like the Cylons. The difference is that when the 13th Tribe developed AI, they treated them as equals instead of slaves. As a result, their androids developed a great loyalty to mankind. Androids are commonplace all over Earth and its colonies.

The Cylons, in fact, have attacked Earth several times; it's why they ignored the Colonies for so long. Their plan in letting Galactica get to Earth was to let the Colonials' distrust of "toasters" infect Earth, driving a wedge between the human and android populations. The combined strength of the Cylons and Earth's AI's would easily overwhelm and destroy the remaining human race. For now, those androids hate the Cylons passionately, having fought them tooth and nail for years to defend Earth.

[Steven Snyder]

No, with a 'but'

I don't want them to find Earth as we know it.

I want them to find Earth, as a Cylon trap.

[Noble Ire]

I can just see BSG jumping into the Sol system, moments before Regret's battle group jumps in, and then being enihilated by a stray UNSC MAC round.


In all seriousness though, I think they will end up finding Earth, and I think they could do it well. They certainly have a lot of options on what state they could find the Earth in, too many to really sepculate on. In any case, I am looking forward to that occuring.

[NeoGoomba]

Even though it was rightly pointed out that my idea is a cop-out, originally I thought that there should be some sort of battle OVER Earth as soon as the Fleet gets there, with Galactica (upgraded after meeting up with the Pegasus no doubt) dueling one or two Basestars. It destroys the Cylons before they can relay where Earth is, but Galactica is destroyed herself. The show ends with the fleet approaching Earth with them recieving signals of some kind.

Its ambiguous, but my reasoning was that Galactica performed her mission, and that was enough for me.


Of course now, I just have no idea how it should actually end. But I have confidence in Moore

[Calrissian]

Of course now, I just have no idea how it should actually end. But I have confidence in Moore

Aye, me too. I just hope he can keep to his current standards, to ignore any idiots who want to over-ride the current style.
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Sounds like around haft of the fanbase would like to see some sort of 'Earth'. Personally, I wouldn't mind it being an 'alternative' Earth, although just what time might that might be?
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I've said it before, but I'd be incredibly amused by them, say, running into a B5 Earth Alliance cruiser... The reaction to: "Earth Alliance Destroyer Agamemnon to unidentified vesses" would be priceless... Laughing

Ha, I quite like that. Doubtless many would be VERY upset at anything like that, but still..

[LadyTevar]

Eventually... about the time they want to end the series, they should sight/land on Earth.

[bilateralrope]

The Colonials get a shock when they learn that much of Earth's military is androids, like the Cylons. The difference is that when the 13th Tribe developed AI, they treated them as equals instead of slaves. As a result, their androids developed a great loyalty to mankind. Androids are commonplace all over Earth and its colonies.

Or, better yet, have put in some decent loyalty programming into the AI's so that they won't rebel. I have never liked the idea of a large group of AI's rebeling because they were badly treated, mainly because it shows that they were badly designed and tested in the first place (as well as having too much intellgence, which probably increses the cost, than required). Having a few units rebelling due to a malfunction is accecptable

[Battlehymn Republic]

I remember an old thread questioning what the old BSG should have met when they found Earth. Since we're talking about nBSG, created in the year of our Lord 2004, in a new time period, with new series, this is what I think they should find:

Firefly Earth- They fly about a bit in disbelief at finding a polluted wasteland, before finding the huge Alliance star system.

Halo 2 Earth- In the middle of the invasion of Mombasa?

Enterprise Earth- It's gonna have an abrupt ending.

Return of the- wait, no, never mind.

Andromeda Earth- No one really cares.

That's all I've got. Anything else?

[Knife]

Considering the dark themes of this nBSG, I would almost like it if they found out that Earth was a Myth.

[Stark]

Finding Earth: fine. So long as Earth isn't happy to see them.

I think we can make some broad generalisations about Earths situation in BSG, from hints like the lack of radio activity, smugglers/adventurers stumbling through the 13 colonies, or fleet activity suggest that it's hardly the center of an advanced spacefaring empire. Compared to nBSG, 'advanced' isn't very, but still. Even something Federation-sized couldn't go unnoticed, surely (unless Earth is way further away from the 13 colonies than I thought).

[BloodAngel]

I think we're all forgetting one point here (besides CDiehl's earlier post):

Wouldn't Earth be pissed off at the 12 colonies for bringing the Cylons there?

[Plushie]

What I'd actually kind of like to see is a battle over Earth where the colonial fleet gets devestated, most of the ships destroyed and those that survive going down anyway. The Humans win in the end, but they're stuck on Earth without the resources to build a lot of the technology they have left.

It'd fit with the whole "Life began out there" theme.

[Darth Sephiroth]

Perhaps in the last few episodes of the series, if they don't it would be rather disappointing.

[Skylon]

What I'd actually kind of like to see is a battle over Earth where the colonial fleet gets devestated, most of the ships destroyed and those that survive going down anyway. The Humans win in the end, but they're stuck on Earth without the resources to build a lot of the technology they have left.

It'd fit with the whole "Life began out there" theme.

I'm kinda for this idea. Having them find Earth in a "BC" state (Ancient Egypt, or Greece).But, for the sake of throwing a little curve-ball...not only do the colonials have to settle Earth, but the human-model Cylons as well.

Honestly, an epic final battle above Earth, in which Galactica must be sacrificed to save Earth and the fleet is what I can imagine. Though if that card were played, I'd have to say, Adama would go down with his ship.