New Galactica / Old Galactica Crossover

[Kitsune]

Assuming that the old Battlestar Galactica was moved into the new Battlestar Galactica universe and the New Galactica is moved into the Old Galactica universe, how does each do?

To be nice, assume that the old Galactica has some form of FTL

[Zor]

The New BSG gets an easier flight to earth, as they are now going up against a hoarde of weak, stupid walking Toasters.

The new Cylons rip the old BSG a new arsehole using many, many nuclear weapons.

[brianeyci]

I watched the first episode of the new BSG. Pretty cool to see high yield weapons in sci-fi for once.

Brian

[Montcalm]

To be nice, assume that the old Galactica has some form of FTL

I thought they already had some FTL capability,if i remember correctly they said they were in another galaxy.

[StarshipTitanic]

To be nice, assume that the old Galactica has some form of FTL

I thought they already had some FTL capability,if i remember correctly they said they were in another galaxy.

They do, he must be confused by the way old BSG people use "star system." The Galactica travelled through at least two galaxies, it's own and the one with Terra in it. The last episode dealt with leaving that one.

I don't think any reliable calcs have been done on old BSG weapons.

[LadyTevar]

The old BSG used laser or blaster weapons, although I forget what they called them. It can be noted that the new BSG's gun emplacements are replicas of the old BGS's guns and are in nearly the same positions.

The original Vipers may have had an inertialless drive, since they behaved like jetfighters when engaged in combat. Their weapons were also laser or blasters, fired in bursts. At least two shots needed to hit a Cylon Raider before it would explode.

[LadyTevar]

As for FTL, I recall one episode where the "White Beings" had thrown Apollo many lightyears to the planet Terra, so he could attempt to stop a nuclear war.

StarBuck, following in a Viper, took 2-4 days to reach the planet from the Galatica's position. The Galactica herself only took 1 hour to cross the same distance, when StarBuck managed to call for backup.

That same episode, the Galactica used her (main?) weapon(s) to destroy all the ICB nukes that had been launched seconds before her arrival.

[Zor]

The old BSG used laser or blaster weapons, although I forget what they called them.

It's not weapon type that matters, it is output.

It can be noted that the new BSG's gun emplacements are replicas of the old BGS's guns and are in nearly the same positions.

They don't.

Old BSG Guns-Battleship type guns
New BSG Guns-Flak Cannon type guns, as well as having far more of them.

The original Vipers may have had an inertialless drive, since they behaved like jetfighters when engaged in combat. Their weapons were also laser or blasters, fired in bursts. At least two shots needed to hit a Cylon Raider before it would explode.

New Vipers are armed with Railguns, and it is posible for a Viper to survive a hit from a railgun, and be rammed by another Viper and pushed into the hanger.

The entire crew of the BSG would shit themselfs at the first sight of a new Cylon.

[Knife]

Say what you will about the old, they were fighting an on and off again war for a thousand years. They have a basic understanding of warfare while the new BSG are a bunch of peacenic's in a frantic learning curve.

[Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba]

Say what you will about the old, they were fighting an on and off again war for a thousand years. They have a basic understanding of warfare while the new BSG are a bunch of peacenic's in a frantic learning curve.

A warrior instinct is no replacement for bigger guns.

[Knife]

Say what you will about the old, they were fighting an on and off again war for a thousand years. They have a basic understanding of warfare while the new BSG are a bunch of peacenic's in a frantic learning curve.

A warrior instinct is no replacement for bigger guns.

Sure, too bad the new one doesn't have bigger guns. Unless your talking the cylon nukes, and even then, they loose alot of effectiveness when they're out of the atmoshpere.

[StarshipTitanic]

The old BSG used laser or blaster weapons, although I forget what they called them. It can be noted that the new BSG's gun emplacements are replicas of the old BGS's guns and are in nearly the same positions.

The weapons are actually in much different, and much more intelligent, positions. On the original, there were some on the sides of the landing bays and only one ventral turret on the top and that was it. On the new one, they have guns everywhere covering all angles.

[StarshipTitanic]

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New Vipers are armed with Railguns, and it is posible for a Viper to survive a hit from a railgun, and be rammed by another Viper and pushed into the hanger.

Uh, you got proof for that?

[Zor]

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New Vipers are armed with Railguns, and it is posible for a Viper to survive a hit from a railgun, and be rammed by another Viper and pushed into the hanger.

Uh, you got proof for that?

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That seen near the End, After Apollo's Engine gets blown off, Starbuck rams her viper against Apollos and gets it back into the Galatica.

Zor

[StarshipTitanic]

Railgun proof, Zor.

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Say what you will about the old, they were fighting an on and off again war for a thousand years. They have a basic understanding of warfare while the new BSG are a bunch of peacenic's in a frantic learning curve.

Not sure I'm following you on that. In the pilot they had a fleet of around 200 battlestars (from dialog) They stockpile thermonuclear weapons and their warships are for the most part, fluffless.

They got caught with their pants down because Baltar couldn't keep his pants up and let Six roam freely through the defense databases gathering the exact intel needed to allow the Cylons to stop the Colonial fleet dead in its tracks. There was nothing to indicate that the Colonial fleet was anything but prepared for a Cylon attack, even after decades of peace.

The only reason the Cylons were able to attack almost completely unopposed was because they had the ability to turn the majority of Colonial assets into sitting ducks.

Galactica wasn't being retired because the Colonials were disarming or it had become politically unacceptable to have a large military, they were retiring her because she's well past her prime and probably not worth the trouble to refit. She's at least 40 years old iirc, about 10 years shy of the 50 year average service life of modern super carriers. In a 200 Battlestar fleet, 1 40 year Battlestar being turned into a museum with 10 years left in her is not strategic ineptitude but good book keeping.

[Jalinth]

The old BSG used laser or blaster weapons, although I forget what they called them. It can be noted that the new BSG's gun emplacements are replicas of the old BGS's guns and are in nearly the same positions.

The weapons are actually in much different, and much more intelligent, positions. On the original, there were some on the sides of the landing bays and only one ventral turret on the top and that was it. On the new one, they have guns everywhere covering all angles.

The new BSG seems to use these guns as flak rather than capital - so you need 360 coverage. Although in the mini-series they refer to "torpedoes" - so are these "capital" missiles? The series only starts tonight up in Canuckistan.

[Knife]

Say what you will about the old, they were fighting an on and off again war for a thousand years. They have a basic understanding of warfare while the new BSG are a bunch of peacenic's in a frantic learning curve.

Not sure I'm following you on that. In the pilot they had a fleet of around 200 battlestars (from dialog) They stockpile thermonuclear weapons and their warships are for the most part, fluffless.

They got caught with their pants down because Baltar couldn't keep his pants up and let Six roam freely through the defense databases gathering the exact intel needed to allow the Cylons to stop the Colonial fleet dead in its tracks. There was nothing to indicate that the Colonial fleet was anything but prepared for a Cylon attack, even after decades of peace.

The only reason the Cylons were able to attack almost completely unopposed was because they had the ability to turn the majority of Colonial assets into sitting ducks.

Galactica wasn't being retired because the Colonials were disarming or it had become politically unacceptable to have a large military, they were retiring her because she's well past her prime and probably not worth the trouble to refit. She's at least 40 years old iirc, about 10 years shy of the 50 year average service life of modern super carriers. In a 200 Battlestar fleet, 1 40 year Battlestar being turned into a museum with 10 years left in her is not strategic ineptitude but good book keeping.

Hmmm, its been a year since the mini series, so I guess I could have remembered wrong, but I could have sworn they were down sizing their military.

[Kitsune]

Say what you will about the old, they were fighting an on and off again war for a thousand years. They have a basic understanding of warfare while the new BSG are a bunch of peacenic's in a frantic learning curve.

I don't really have any way of quatifying it but the dialog in the two seems to show a much greater military awareness in the new series.

[StarshipTitanic]

The new BSG seems to use these guns as flak rather than capital - so you need 360 coverage. Although in the mini-series they refer to "torpedoes" - so are these "capital" missiles? The series only starts tonight up in Canuckistan.

Considering how many times the old BSG was rammed, or the trouble it had engaging even just one Basestar, I doubt more weapons would have hurt.

There weren't any torpedoes in the miniseries or series itself. The old BSG had some anti ship missiles, though (Apollo stage separation stock footage).

[StarshipTitanic]

Say what you will about the old, they were fighting an on and off again war for a thousand years. They have a basic understanding of warfare while the new BSG are a bunch of peacenic's in a frantic learning curve.

I don't really have any way of quatifying it but the dialog in the two seems to show a much greater military awareness in the new series.

Let's remember the actions of President "We must show some restraint" Adar from the original's pilot when a "wall" of spacecraft approached the Colonial fleet.

The Cylons of the original were stupid, anyway. The small force of roughly 150 Vipers of the Galactica always utterly destroyed thousands of attacking Cylon raiders.

[SCVN 2812]

The old BSG used laser or blaster weapons, although I forget what they called them. It can be noted that the new BSG's gun emplacements are replicas of the old BGS's guns and are in nearly the same positions.

The weapons are actually in much different, and much more intelligent, positions. On the original, there were some on the sides of the landing bays and only one ventral turret on the top and that was it. On the new one, they have guns everywhere covering all angles.

The new BSG seems to use these guns as flak rather than capital - so you need 360 coverage. Although in the mini-series they refer to "torpedoes" - so are these "capital" missiles? The series only starts tonight up in Canuckistan.

Its revealed that Galactica has a limited number of thermonuclear warheads later on in the series, presumably she has a method of delivering them.

[Manus Celer Dei]

The old BSG gets pwned but the new BSG suffers a complete and total angst failure and ceases to exsist because they all act like emo teenagers.

[Darwin]

Its revealed that Galactica has a limited number of thermonuclear warheads later on in the series, presumably she has a method of delivering them.

if it were me, I'd have Galactica launch them out of the Viper tubes.

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Its revealed that Galactica has a limited number of thermonuclear warheads later on in the series, presumably she has a method of delivering them.

if it were me, I'd have Galactica launch them out of the Viper tubes.

They aren't very big warheads. Though we haven't seen the missiles or torpedoes they go to yet if Galactica has any.