Latest Terminator Novel

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 08:59am

I picked this one up today. By Aaron Allston. I expected suckyness from the author of the X-wing books. And Lo! He thrust back the hood, revealing a truly bad take on the Terminator franchise.

A T-800 can now take a .50 cal shot.

To the face.

The eye in fact.

From a barret M99.

At one kilometer.

And only loose the eye, and control of its vehicle for a moment.

....

And ther resistance don't appear to have plasma weapons. I can safely say they're fucked.

And I'm only on page forty.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2004-12-09 09:11am

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I say we declare jihad or atleast get this guy banned from writing books ever again.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 09:13am

Ooh! T-800s now go up like ford pintos too.

And the book apparently features psycic powers.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 09:17am

Oh. And according to his website He's already working on the next one. About a guy assigned to capturing a TX.

Losonti Tokash · Post by **Losonti Tokash** » 2004-12-09 09:20am

NecronLord wrote:Oh. And according to his website He's already working on the next one. About a guy assigned to capturing a TX.

*stabs self in face*
Jesus fucking christ. I've never read any of the X-Wing novels, but from what I've heard about those and the Terminator book, it makes me wonder why he was even allowed to pick up a pencil.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 09:22am

Losonti Tokash wrote:I've never read any of the X-Wing novels,

I have one. The Bacta War.

I tried to read it, really I did.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-12-09 09:33am

Thank god I can safely ignore Terminater novels as "non canon".

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 09:37am

Robert Walper wrote:Thank god I can safely ignore Terminater novels as "non canon".

Woah there big fella. There's no strict canon policy, apart from James Cameron saying he finds the Sterling books closer to his own ideas than T3.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-12-09 12:58pm

NecronLord wrote:
I have one. The Bacta War.

I tried to read it, really I did.

I've still got The Krytos Trap, probably got 20 pages done and that's it.

It's likely no one will top Stirling for these Terminator novels. His trilogy was so good, it should have been the third film.

NecronLord wrote:
Woah there big fella. There's no strict canon policy, apart from James Cameron saying he finds the Sterling books closer to his own ideas than T3.

Yeah, but I think it's safe to say that Cameron's original films along with Gale Anne Hurd were the major assets in the series.

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2004-12-09 12:58pm

NecronLord wrote:
Losonti Tokash wrote:I've never read any of the X-Wing novels,
I have one. The Bacta War.

I tried to read it, really I did.

[nitpick]Allston didn't write that one.[/nitpick]

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 01:02pm

Oberleutnant wrote: [nitpick]Allston didn't write that one.[/nitpick]

I know.

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2004-12-09 01:19pm

NecronLord wrote:
Oberleutnant wrote: [nitpick]Allston didn't write that one.[/nitpick]
I know.

So why did you consider him the author of the X-Wing books, when there were in fact two? Furthermore, why did you embrace The Bacta war as an example of said books when it has nothing to do with the quality of Allston's writing?

I smell sloppy thinking on the level of Stofsk previous rant on the X-Wing books.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 01:24pm

Eleas wrote: So why did you consider him the author of the X-Wing books, when there were in fact two? Furthermore, why did you embrace The Bacta war as an example of said books when it has nothing to do with the quality of Allston's writing?

I smell sloppy thinking on the level of Stofsk previous rant on the X-Wing books.

Because every reveiw I've ever read of the X-wing/Wraith squadron series says that he makes Stackpole look like Shakespere..

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2004-12-09 01:29pm

NecronLord wrote:
Eleas wrote: So why did you consider him the author of the X-Wing books, when there were in fact two? Furthermore, why did you embrace The Bacta war as an example of said books when it has nothing to do with the quality of Allston's writing?

I smell sloppy thinking on the level of Stofsk previous rant on the X-Wing books.
Because every reveiw I've ever read of the X-wing/Wraith squadron series says that he makes Stackpole look like Shakespere..

Then you must have read very wrong reviews. Allston trumps Stackpole on every level. Every. Level. Until now, I've never heard anyone contradicting this.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-12-09 01:30pm

NecronLord wrote:
Losonti Tokash wrote:I've never read any of the X-Wing novels,
I have one. The Bacta War.

I tried to read it, really I did.

Good thing Allston didn't write Bacta War.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 01:33pm

And, for the record, I also had a go at Iron Fist too. I don't own a copy of that though.

Back to the topic. Are you guys telling me that having a terminator survive having a fifty cal round blow a hole in its head and come out the back of its skull is anything but appalling?

Or the lack of resistance plasma weapons in 2029?

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2004-12-09 01:35pm

Alyeska wrote:
NecronLord wrote:
Losonti Tokash wrote:I've never read any of the X-Wing novels,
I have one. The Bacta War.

I tried to read it, really I did.
Good thing Allston didn't write Bacta War.

Apparently, that doesn't matter, given the chance to bitch.

NecronLord wrote:And, for the record, I also had a go at Iron Fist too. I don't own a copy of that though.

To read Iron Fist as a standalone is useless - you're not gonna know anything about the characters or care about them. Start with Wraith Squadron. And give it a fucking chance before you go "I told you so".

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2004-12-09 01:37pm

NecronLord wrote: Back to the topic. Are you guys telling me that having a terminator survive having a fifty cal round blow a hole in its head and come out the back of its skull is anything but appalling?

Or the lack of resistance plasma weapons in 2029?

Yes. Why would the Terminator's motivation circuits rest solely in its skull? Why would every member of the Resistance own plasma weapons in 2029?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 01:40pm

Eleas wrote:Yes. Why would the Terminator's motivation circuits rest solely in its skull?

Have you seen the T2 special edition?

Why would every member of the Resistance own plasma weapons in 2029?

The personal guard of the Supreme Commander himself, including his daughter, John Connor, and Kate Brewster don't have one between them.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-12-09 01:41pm

We see that their brains are in their skulls in the extended version of T2.

If Allston was a good writer, Iron Fist would be okay as a stand alone. It would be better having read the previous ones, but it shouldn't be essential. That isn't an excuse for the book sucking.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-12-09 01:42pm

The personal guard of the Supreme Commander himself, including his daughter, John Connor, and Kate Brewster don't have one between them.

Damn, that's pretty fucking wretched.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 01:44pm

Indeed. The first Star Wars book I read, Dark Force Rising, wasn't the first in its series. I still enjoyed it.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 01:46pm

Imperial Overlord wrote:
The personal guard of the Supreme Commander himself, including his daughter, John Connor, and Kate Brewster don't have one between them.
Damn, that's pretty fucking wretched.

Particularly in light of both T1 and T2 showing flash forward scenes to the same year where every resistance soldier has a plasgun. on them bar one (excluding the likes of radio operations) - because he's the guy with the rocket launcher.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2004-12-09 01:46pm

I have the habit of starting a good series with the second or third book, liking it, and finally finding the first book half a year latter.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2004-12-09 01:53pm

And the introduction of psycic powers to the Terminator series is hardly something I like the sound of.