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This is part of a gradual 'updating' of some of my older novels stuff.. at least as much of it as I can remember. I was originally not going to do the Necromunda novels, but I figured 'what the hell'. I like the setting, as it breaks away from the whole WAR theme and gives us one of those 'rare' glimpses into the society of the Imperium. Or at least one facet of it.

The Necromunda novels were, as I understand it, an attempt to re-ignite interest in the franchise back in the early 2000s. I got into this just after the last 'official' novel was released (lasgun wedding) and they were some of the earliest novels I read. I think, having read far more 40K stuff, and after having to slog through book aftre book of SPACE MARINES (which has only gotten MORE space mareeny as time goes on ) I've developed a greater appreciation because they are one of those rare novels where Space Marines have little or nothing to do with the plot. Indeed, the glimpse they offer into the 40K galaxy is quite divergent from the mainstream - the religious/superstitious aspects are less predominant (relatively few cases of the Machien Spirit for example) and religion is handled in a far more offhand manner (the most hardcore Emperor-worshippers are considered little better than terrorists.) On top of that, while there is plenty of violence and action, there is also a bit of silliness and oddity, and the setting has a distinct 'wild west' flavor to it with different things (gangs, holesteaders, saloons, a stratified society, etc.)

So I decided to reread them, and see how my previous assessments stood up compared to how I think now. Also, if there are fans of 40K novels who hate reading about war and Space Marines, I'd recommend the novels. Many of the authors we know of in mainstream 40K: Nick Kyme, Matt Farrer, Andy Chambers, Gordon Rennie, Goto, etc. had a hand in them, and those who haven't still bring something interesting to the table (I suspect some may have been Warhammer Fantasy writers.)

I won't be doing ALL the novels. I've already done Survival instinct, and nothing will make me re-do an anthology (STatus-Deadzone) even though it was interesting. Maybe I'll redo it in the future, I dunno.

The books I'll be covering are: Junktion by Matt farrer, Salvation by CS Goto (unfortunately), Fleshworks by Lucian Soulban (who did the Desert Raiders IG novel, btw), Back from the Dead (by Nick Kyme), and the 3 Kal Jerico novels by Will McDermott and Gordon Rennie (although he's only credited in the first one.)

I won't be covering "Outlander" because I really had nothing new to add I havent covered elsewhere. I did find it to be a better novel than at first, because it has a distinct 'wild west' flavor to it. Basically a lone gunman type infiltrates and sets out to bring down a nefarious CAwdor gang's reign of terror (which is bound to break out into war) because he is a fundamentally good guy. Very Wild-westy type feel to it even in the cover.

Status Deadzone can be found covered here and Survival Instinct is here. As I said in the thread, I liked Ulanti's depiction, and the story really illustrates the whole reason why some people choose to flee the Spire (nobility) and Hive City for the freedom and independence (and lawlessness) of the Underhive.

To kick off the thread I'll cover an analysis of the Necromunda intro:
In order to even begin to understand the blasted world of Necromunda you must first understand the hive cities. These man-made mountains of plasteel, ceramite and rockrete have accreted over centuries to protect their inhabitants from a hostile environment, so very much like the termite mounds they resemble. The Necromundan hive cities have populations in the billions and are intensely industrialised, each one commanding the manufacturing potential of an entire planet or colony system compacted into a few hundred square kilometres.
Various points of interest: each hive seems to average 'billions' in popualtion, which given the probable size of the hive and the city means that we're talking scores if not hundreds of Necromundan hives on average.

Each has the manufacturing potential of an entire planet or 'colony system', which suggests that each (Necromunda style) Hive has literally orders of magnitude more manufacturing potential than a civilised world. I expect industrial worlds can match this, and Forge worlds almost certianly can, but its an interesting benchmark. On the other hand, this has some drawback sas Necromunda is definitely one of those worlds dependent upon raw resources and imports from outside (at least partly) as well as massive/extensive internal recycling to sustain that output - both food and raw materials, so the specialization costs it some (long term?) self sufficiently potentially, although given necromunda's Underhive ecosystem this is up for debate (how well can it survive without the stuff from above flowing down below..?)


Each hive also occucpies (on average) a few hundreds square km, which I take to be around 200-300 sq km, but it could be a bit bigger. That translates roughly into a 15-20 km diamter Hive City, which is interesting (but consistent) with the 10 mile hight of Hive primus to an extent. It may or may not include outlying elements rather than juts the Hive proper (some sort of construction can build up around the hive.) It may or may not include the bits buried under the surface, as Ash Wastes debris can accumulate on the outsides even as the city compacts.
The entire hive structure replicates the social status of its inhabitants in a vertical plane. At the top are the nobility, below them are the workers, and below the workers are the dregs of society, the outcasts.
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The nobles -Houses Helmawr, Cattalus, Ту, Ulanti. Greim, Ran Lo and Ko'lron -live in the 'Spire', and seldom set foot below the 'Wall' that exists between themselves and the great forges and hab zones of the hive city proper.
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Below the hive city is the 'Underhive'. foundation layers of habi­tation domes, industrial zones and tunnels which have been abandoned in prior generations, only to be re-occupied by those with nowhere else to go.
The organization of the Hive City. There is an inverse relationship between safety/security and order, and freedom and chaos. Basically the higher up the more regimented and ordered society is, but relatively safer it is from random violence. You get alot of freedom down below, but you also have to defend that freedom from others who would take it and what you have. Very frontier-like. Up above, you have wealth, security and power, but there are extensive rules and regulations and the spire familes rule everyone (even themselves) with an iorn fist - which is why nobles like Donna Ulanti and Kal Jerico flee to the Underhive. The middle regions seem to be something of a compromise, but they also run into problems with being the 'middle child' so to speak (sitting the fence means you get shitted on by both sides in some way)
Most fascinating of all is when individuals attempt to cross the monumental physical and social divides of the hive to start new lives. Given social conditions, ascension through the hive is nigh on impossible, but descent is an altogether easier, albeit altogether less appealing, possibility.
Funny enough, Hive worlds would be the ideal sort of setup you would want if you were like the Tyranids or tau.. basically working towards a 'greater good' type thing. in the case of humans, it just leads to more oddity, violence and insanity. And that isnt including the crazy wildlife, spyrer hunters, random alien or monstrous threats, plague zombies, or Chaos madness one might find.
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Also a first novel! I decided on Fleshworks, by Lucian soulban. The original thread can be found in the link.

Fleshworks is something of a 'spy novel' type thing, or secret agent. It deals mainly with the Delaque, who are basically the Hives spies and ninjas. It deals with a high end Delaque spy (considered an elite) who has to recover some important bionics that have been stolen. However, there is far more to the mission than meets the eye, and in the process the spy dude - Uriah Storm - makes enemies, discovers the value of friends, and uncovers a sneaky plot that has him as the fall guy. Not a super 'deep' story, but its also fun and not horribly grimdark. It's also one of my favorite novels because it provides a good peek into how Necromundan society (At the bottom and middle at least) deal with concepts like the Machine Spirit and technology as a whole.

This is the entire novel in a single update. enjoy!

Page 7-8
His legs quivered with fatigue and his artificial eyes strained to detect thermal variants in his surroundings, but to no avail. He was near a smelting plant and the heat from all that molten metal bled through the walls' multiple skins. The casing protecting his implants grew warmer against the connective tissues of his flesh, and while not painful, it would be uncomfortable soon.The air felt thick with humidity; the walls perspired. It was several degrees hotter than the human body. That rendered his pursuers invisible to thermal optics, and Soren's normal sight couldn't see much better in the corridor.
Limitations and capabilities of thermal eye implants. While I suspect IR wouldn't quite work that way (I'm betitng IR sensors could pick up on the temperature difference between air and the human body by the lattr showing up colder than the former.) It may be that stuff in the way (humidity, steam, etc.) might interefere with it. Alternately its a reflection of the quality of the device and its own limitations, its not exaclty like we're dealing with high-tier Imperial tech exactly.
Page 13
The only personable touch to the otherwise basic room was a thick regicide board with bronze and silver tiles set upon a small stand in the corner. Upon the sur­face flickered low-rez holographic pieces caught in the middle of a match's static ballet. How the bald man managed to procure such a piece of archeotech was a mystery, but whenever Uriah visited, the pieces had been moved around.
holographic chessboard.

Page 15
A grainy, black and white picture appeared, at eye level, showing a man moving down an oil stained and industrial-looking cor­ridor, towards the camera. He wore a lab frock, fairly typical to the researchers of House Van Saar.
RESEARCH!
Page 17-18
The armoury chief was well acquainted with battle, his scars, marble eye and bolted skin plates a testament to his years in the trenches of the Underhive. They were also the cost of working in back-alley chop-shop medicine, where so-called doctors disposed of severed limbs in garbage pails and used them for unsavoury experiments - or worse. Uriah didn't care to know what exactly.

Uriah wondered whether he would one day face some disfiguring treatment; skull pump tubing, exposed steel plate for bone, pseudo-articulated gears for joints; the horrifying list of disfigurements was endless. The thought chilled Uriah, both the prospect of such pain and the physical cost.
Bit of insight into lower level Necromunda medical and surgical replacement/prosthetic tech. I imagine 'skin plates' refer to some sort of metal patch over parts of the body (like the head. Orlock are noted for bolting metal plates to their skulls.)

Page 19
Uriah checked the tools sheathed inside the heavy leather fabric, the satchel a tool belt of sorts for his crafts. More than just thieving supplies, lock picks, acid ampoules and protean metal keys, the satchel also carried small telescopes, eavesdropping equip­ment and other accoutrements for carrying out his role as spy.
Delaque Spy Gear. The protean keys are interesting.. some sort of morphing metal thingy I suppose.
Page 20
No official streets ran through here, only lot numbers belonging to the seemingly endless grid of corrugated and rusted storage units. Uriah drifted through the alleys, the rumble from his dark green bike echoing off the thin metal container walls.
small vehicles (like motorcycles) seem fairly common amongst the more affluent gangs of Necromunda.

Page 21
"You run your operation and I dispense my sage advice?"

"I'd appreciate that. Your understanding of the Machine Spirit is-"

"Oh, please! Not this crap again. There is no Machine Spirit. Just machine. Wires, tubes, chips and the occasional attitude. But no Machine Spirit!"
One of the things I've always liked about this book and the Necromunda stories in general - it will break away from the 40K 'standards' in interesting ways. For example, in the Necromunda setting, especially the Underhive, few actually believe in or obey the AdMech strictures or all the ritual and crap, and it usually isn't a horrible hinderance (although their tech is not always the most advanced.) People act/speak differently than in the other novels where the AdMech influences are heavier - indeed in this book the protagonist is a bit unusual in his belief in the Machine Spirit. Even more, this isn't an unusal thing - the people in the lower levels of the hive reflect others who may be curious or work with tech - people like Quidlon from the Last Chancers series, who got put in a penal legion for pissing off the AdMech.
A similar example of this is the REdemption which had it sorigins in Necromunda. In the Hives, a cult devoted to worship of the Emperor is seen as a violent and destabilising influence, and is generally shunned. And that reflects the idea that true faith in the Imperium is rare (cf Sisters of Battle ) reflecting that belief can exist alongisde unbelief (or lip service to religion, which is far more common on Necromunda at least.) All in all it just really reflects that diversity of humanity in 40K and that it can run along all kinds of paths.
The other aspect of this is that not everyone in the lwoer levels (including the underhive) are ill educated or un-technical trash - there are those who can use computers and other tech (like in Survival instinct) and even make/repair such stuff without invoking AdMech dogma. A person can argue all day over whether or not that dogma has an impact (belief and the warp and all), but it isn't REQUIRED and at worst it has no negative impact (As far as the technology itself goes. The building of it and the implications for thing like R&D and engineering are up for debate.)

Page 23-24
The ceiling for die Saint Vibeau District was three storeys high, but the stacked hab block containers crammed beneath were stacked four high with uncom­fortably low roofs. Locals claimed that millennia ago, the district rested near the top of Hive Primus; in those days Saint Vibeau was an affluent district that enjoyed the patronage of the principle Houses. Hive Primus continued growing, however, and the high ceilings slowly sagged under the weight of the construction above.

The last of the prosperous families moved away cen­turies ago, when a forgotten sump pipe burst between two heavy load-bearing, thick-plated walls. It was impossible to reach, so to this day the walls of Saint Vibeau cried trickles of pollutants that afflicted many local children with mutation and deformity. Few of those so touched survived into adulthood between the Goliath and Orlock gangs that occasionally swept
through on 'join-or-die' recruitment drives and the fatal nature of certain birth defects. It was also a district where nobody meddled in the affairs of their neigh­bours and where nobody made eye contact. It was safer that way.

The original hab blocks were sumptuous affairs until the district's principle employer, the Munitorum and its ammunition stockpiles, moved in to the district. The Munitorum administrators split the size of each hab block twice before allowing its workers to move in to the cramped quarters.
An example of living and housing conditions on Necromunda. Given the 4 mile height this could mean that 'hab block' would take up quite a bit of vertical height of the hive, assuming its not descending partway into the lower levels.
Also the aggressive recruiting of the gangs, and Munitorum employment in the hive - at least they provide some sort of housing that isnt totally shit. Heck people might even get paid!
Page 24
Sure enough, idling on the curb were three ganger bikes with red Orlock flags hanging off heavy antennae. The bikes were nothing more than engines with large exhausts and two thick wheels; strapped on each was a heavy saddle. The bikes purred with a throaty rumble..
Again, gang bikes. Between Uriah's bike and all the other gang bikes, I wonder how they can manage to run on chem fuels, given Necromunda's relative lack of fossil fuel. Some sort of biofuels maybe? Soylent gasoline?
Page 25
Uriah sighed. He'd paid a foreman at the Slaughter House a considerable amount to secure this hab block for his own private use and to keep quiet. Only employ­ees were given hab blocks, but it wasn't unusual for highly placed members of a business to profit on the side. In this case by selling Uriah the home of a dead employee who was still listed as alive.
capitalism is alive and well on Necromunda!

PAge 26-27
He knelt down and attached the rectangular device to the power outlet. A small red light clicked on and began to blink slowly in a quickly accelerating cadence.
Uriah had thirty seconds.
..
The rectangular device on the wall emitted an electri­cal surge that shot through the hab block's conduits, disrupting the power flow of the building's generators. The lights died instantly, but would return within moments.
Another bit of fun Necromunda tech.
Page 28
White-hot beams of green las-fire erupted from another part of the room, announcing that a new shooter had just entered the fray. Uriah caught quick glimpses of Morgane, her back against the wall, her backside on the floor, firing one of three weapons hid­den throughout the safe-house. The las-beam cooked the arm of one shooter, forcing him to drop his weapon.
Yeah 'white hot beams of GREEN' lasfire. Don't ask me to figure that one out. :P Anyhow, as I noted before the calc depends largely on the depth of burning and the surface area, so it could be single or double digit kj. Quite a difference from my original calcs (which sat at somewhere like half a megajoule to a megajoule at least, and while a heat ray wouldn't explode the arm neccesarily, I'm sure the effects would be more than 'just drop the gun' and its safe to say that I was overstating the power and area/volume affected.)

Page 29
Uriah noticed the blackened, cracked burn marks on the temples of each of the three men.
...
...poking him with the las pistol.
Laspistol seems to be heavily thermal in damage, at least not wholly mechanical anyhow. Actually doesnt seem to do much blasting at all, just burning through. tHat might be more indicative of highly penetrating radiation cooking than any sort of laser. In other words, more a PBW than a 'laser'.
Blackening suggests fairly significant thermal effects but its hard to gauge.
Page 31
His legs still ached at night, the pins somehow vibrating at some distant memory of his shattered bones.
Uriah had his leg bones broken and rebuilt. Quite well in fact, given his ability to scale buildings and do all sorts of highly mobile activities
Page 36
He imagined himself inside a chilled Van Saar lab, refrigerated to optimize the usage of electronics and to prevent them from overheating. It seemed that the Machine Spirits preferred the cold.
Van Saar computer labs.

page 36
He also imagined the scrubbed, sterile environment of the Van Saar facility he'd infiltrated so many years ago. It contrasted sharply with the smelly, mildew-soft and cramped interior of the ducts that Uriah crawled through to reach this point. He admired the Van Saar and its satellite gangs; to them personal hygiene was more than an afterthought or alien principle. Certainly, House Delaque consisted of clean and well-groomed agents, unlike the zealots of House Cawdor, the muscle-ripped Goliaths or the sweaty apes of House Orlock.

Admittedly, Uriah relished his undercover work at the Van Saar labs for more reasons than their enhanced quality of life. On one mission into the Tech-Artificer Gang, Uriah had befriended Soren and scored a poten­tial coup by convincing the disenfranchised engineer to sell secrets to the Delaque.
Van Saar have a much higher quality of life than most other gangs, which just goes to show its possible to exist int he Imperium, even on a hive world, and not have to live in filthy, squalid conditions.

page 37-38
He opened his mouth in a mock yawn to equalize the pressure in his ears. That activated the receiver hidden in his ear and the sub-vocalizer currently lodged inside his throat. It was irritating, but he'd grow accustomed to the sen­sation soon enough.
A comms device. Another useful bit of necromundan (delaque) gear.

Page 39
The smell, however, was even more uncomfortable. Smoke stacks and vents poured a noxious mix of gases and sol­vents into the dome, filling Uriah's mouth with an acrid medley of tastes. Worse, Uriah was light-headed, dis­connected from his environment, his head feeling fixed to his body by a mere string. He fumbled for one of his pouches and withdrew a filter-cup affixed with two metallic cylinders. Uriah covered his mouth and nose with a small rebreather, grateful for the brief injections of oxygen. It wouldn't last more than a few minutes -just long enough for Uriah to act.
Useful bit of breathing apparatus.

PAge 39
Uriah hid in a small alcove that forced him to a knee. He was draped in dark­ness, though he hoped the ambient heat blinded anyone with thermal vision.
It's possible for even the Orlock to have thermal vision devices or sensors.

Page 42
The foundry's interior was a honeycomb of intercon­nected caverns, each five to seven storeys in height. While expansive, the interior was still cramped. Huge heating engines and generators sat shoulder to shoulder with barely the room to slip through the gaps between them. Some of the equipment was rusted and useless, having died years ago; others coughed black smoke and functioned as though seized by spasms. Three-storey vats containing pools of magma-like metal bled thick ropes of steam upwards while conveyor belts carried various moulds or cooled ore ingots from one section to the next. The sky above it all was a network of cat­walks and footbridges, designed around the steam columns and connected to the few offices suspended well above the foundry floor.
An Orlock foundry. Again Orlock are not exactly high end on the tech scale.

Page 43
Most of the Orlocks were on the lower catwalks, though a few maintenance workers ran their rounds on the ground. It was his best shot, the graveyard shift running the fewest workers.
Hey look, not everyone is a LITERAL slave! They acutally have SHIFTS, which means they have parts of the day totally not devoted t production! Amazing huh?


Page 44
Uriah grimaced; he'd have to remember diat his throat microphone was overly sensitive. No more mouthing his silent conversations.
an indicator about the subvocal capbaility on the comm microphone.

Page 46
The dusk was a clutter of work order bundles made from recycled vellum, while a couch and small kitchen attested to many a double and triple shift that the Orlocks likely inflicted upon the Steel Sentinels foundry.
Hey again shifts. They may overwork them but they're still not slaves! They might even get paid something, given that capitalism and money exists :P

Page 46-48
Central to the room and thus, Uriah's attentions, was a large work desk overflowing with data pads and piles of parchments.

Nearly lost in the junk heap of the desk sat an Orlock logic hub. It was an ancient device and looked too jury-rigged to have been touched by a Van Saar engineer. It was also one of the few logic devices throughout the facility, if the Orlocks remained true to form. While the foreman likely used it for accounting and other orders of business required to run the foundry, the device was also connected to the primitive network shared by most Orlock facilities. How they maintained technology of that sophistication was a mystery to Uriah, but they must have done something right to appease the Machine Spirit.

"I found the logic hub," Uriah said.

"Is it two cans connected together with string?"

Uriah chuckled softly. "I see we share an appreciation of Orlock technology."

"Cawdor, Goliath, Orlocks... they're all the same smelly breed."
...

"No, the hub appears to be more sophisticated than that."
...
Uriah activated the machine and prayed for a simple encryption code. The computer hissed to life, sounding as though it was on its final legs, mechanical hiccups and heavy whirrs threatening to choke it. Uriah waited for the prompt screen to begin his assault.
...
Uriah slapped the side of the logic device in frustration and set about coaxing it to life. It was slow, and from what Uriah could see, the Orlock's sad attempt at a user interface was a clutter of scattered files listed with no apparent rhyme or reason

"Did you hit the machine?" Voice asked.
"Maybe." Uriah said, puzzled. "If I did, how would you know?"
"Tsk." Voice replied, "I know all. And what would your precious Machine Spirit say to such callous treatment."
"'Thank you for awakening me' perhaps."
...
Uriah sighed and set about searching through the network. Finally, he found the directory he was look­ing for, the one that accessed the Orlock network. The logic device awaited input of a password.
A bit of a mention of Necromundan computer tech. Even the low tech types like Orlock have some access, even if it is low tech (by the standards of other houses.)

Also, I find the banter amusing. This book does have that going for it, as well as the whole 'spy story' thing.

Page 47
He turned to face the tiny drone, a floating child's skull with a pict-grabber in one eye socket. It hovered behind Kaden in the duct, obediently awaiting its next orders.
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The drone floated past Kaden, buoyed up by a tiny anti-grav generator, and dropped into the chamber.
Delaque servo skull.

Page 62-63
A chemical scrub came next, not exactly normal Delaque procedure, but the ingredients came courtesy of Morgane and were designed to eliminate harmful bacteria. The Van Saar were particularly fussy when it came to hygiene.
Again Van Saar are far from the 'filthy peaseants' propoganda grimdark fluff would have you believe.

Page 62
The rendezvous spot was a Fumes Bar. Situated near an active industrial complex, and often sharing the same owners, the bar was one of several that piped in low concentrations of filtered gases from nearby factories. The fumes produced a cheap high in the bar's clientele, a constant sense of euphoria at the mere expense of one's brain cells.
Necromunda: we'll recycle anything!


Page 65
"Scav­engers steal implants off corpses all the time"
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"I don't know how he got them, but a black-shop bio-surgeon -goes by the name of Cantrall - was selling Soren's implants. Cut-throat rates for premium Van Saar tech"
Capitalism! again!. also comment that even the low levels can have people who can stick bionic implants on other people.

Page 66
The tram lumbered above his head, gaining speed to its next destination.

The district was a warren of tight alleys and low ceilings that added to the claustrophobia. It was a garment quar­ter of sorts, the workers living and working in their one-room hab blocks, each one an independent contrac­tor for a consortium of interests. Here, the House loyalties blurred with several entrepreneurial - but minor - gangs forging a non-aggression pact to ensure the flow of com­merce.
More inter-hive transport, and more capitalism. not everyone is.. owned.. by the Houses so to speak.

Page 70
"Electric discharge. Enough to shock you and possibly burn a few implants. Clip the wire and strip the insula­tion."
That would suggest Necromundan bionics are electronic in nature. Makes sense I suppose.

Page 74-75
"You're half right, there." Slag replied, raising his heavy bolter up into Uriah's face.
...
The Orlocks only noticed the grenade in Uriah's hand when it dropped and hit the floor. Slag's eyes widened. Almost everyone dived behind cover or back through the doors. Uriah, however, was running for the secret exit while Slag threw one of his men atop the puck before diving clear.

The explosives were on a six-second fuse...
...
Slag rose to his feet in the hallway and ignored the groans of his men. Several looked dead or severely injured, though they were easily replaced. The doors had shielded Slag and a couple of his more able men from the blast, but the operating bay was ruined.
...
Slag pulled his heavy bolter and blasted one of the injured Orlocks lying near his feet.
Orlok able to heft and fire a heavy bolter (preusmably human size) pretty easily. The guy must be Goliath sized to do that.

Also a disct shaped grenade that apparently is powerful enough that it can still kill severa Orloks with one thrown directly on top of it (was the other guy blown apart?)

Page 80-81
"I was merely praying to the eye's Machine Spirit to for­give us for the intrusion."
"You're just like the Van Saar, praying to machines."
..
"Because no Van Saar would ever ask for outside help - my help - in handling technology. You know there is no Machine Spirit. It's just circuits and relays, nothing more."
..
"That's heresy to some."

"And music to others. The more we treat machinery as mysterious, the less we'll truly understand mechanics. Do you know I actually saw some poor fool praying to a keypad. He forgot his code - he was begging the Machine Spirit to open it up."

"'Some people don't want to understand machines, Voice. They find solace in believing in the spirit of the device. For them, communion and prayer is wearing implants."
"Ah yes, fleshworks." Voice responded. "But that's not really true of you, is it? Certainly, you give the Machine Spirit its undeserved due, but you know your way around the guts of the machines."
The Van Saar have strong connections to the AdMech, quite likely, which explains their belief in the Machine Spirit (which Uriah inherited from them) and their generally superior tech base and probably higher quality of life. It probably speaks more to the way the AdMech runs the tech busisness in the Imperium that anyone they aid or license (like the Van Saar) probably have to be indoctrinated into their way of thinking - it just reinfroces their control over technology.

And, as I said before, not everyone buys into it, which is actually kind of refreshing. Hell its implied that alot more people (underhive at least) may understand tech minus the AdMech dogma pretty well, which can have its advantages. Noone can accuse Necromunda of being technologically primitive compared to the rest of the Imperium.

And like all doctrines there are degrees of belief. Uriah seems to straddle the fence between AdMech dogma (praying to the machine spirit) and something more practical (having actual knoweldge of the workings.) Which, again is not uncommon even amongst the AdMech.

Page 81-82
The first course of action was to connect the implant's sensory micro-bundles to a data plug that was promptly jacked in to the monitor. The static fluctuated, but otherwise remained the same.
"I still see static." Uriah said.
"That's because the data plug can't interpret the implant's signals. It wasn't designed for that."
...
Delicately, Uriah slowly pried open the implant's outer casing, revealing its innards. Another fine example of Van Saar technology - the implant's lining having pre­vented vital fluids from leaking into the pristine-looking device. Uriah examined the interior and finally located his quarry, a small circuit board connected to wires. He used tweezers to pinch what Voice called 'optic bundles.'
..
"Look for a green chip near the circuit board. It's deli­cate work, but there's an empty socket for the bundle there. Push it in and that should do it."
A bit more on (Van Saar) grade augmetics - at least of the optical variety. The main thing of itnerest is the degree of miniaturization implied in the device, even if it is elect4ronic (circuit boards)

Page 82
"Moving wires around seems a bit crude for Van Saar technology."

"Actually, the Van Saar have machines that do this for them without ever cracking open the implant's casing. We don't have the same luxury. That leaves us to cheat the device into working"
I wonder how they achieve that. Some sort of miniature machines? nanotech? Magic?

Page 82-83
"At the press of two but­tons, Uriah was replaying the eye's video-logs. He could see everything that Cantrall had seen through the artifi­cial eye, recorded in scratchy, but otherwise clear, blacks and whites."
...
"Is this how Cantrall saw the world? In black and white?"
..
"Only the recordings are in black and white, I suspect. He likely had live colour input. But now you see the first reason why I dislike sensory-implants. It's like living inside a monitor, with screens for eyes."
Augmetic eye that has video playback and recording. which makes the miniaturization even more impressive.

Page 83
"It's when the implants, the surgery itself, become more valuable than the individual who uses them. The flesh becomes tool for the machine, not the other way around. It's when we mutilate our flesh to improve our­selves, but demean ourselves in the process. Fleshworks."
Fleshworks defined. It actually seems a doctrine that is the exact opposite of AdMech dogma, which is interesting. Usuaully when you hear people talking about the evils of technology its more an 'ignorance and superstition' thing whereas this suggests something different, treating technology as cold and dehumanising, really. Yet another aspect of the AdMech that gets spit upon by the underhive it seems.


Page 83
"How many hours of recordings does the device con­tain?"

"Try weeks."
...
"Van Saar implants sold to outsiders often contain recording devices. That way, they'll never bother interrogating someone for information. They'll just retrieve the implant and take the data they need."
..
Thankfully, the implant was smart enough to stop recording when Cantrall closed his good eye to sleep..
Expansion on the rather interesting capability. Weeks (or months? years perhaps?) of recording capability is pretty damn impressive, even (as we learn later) it doesn't include audio (for obvious reasons) and it woudl seem to also have some pretty impressive awareness functions (it only remains active during the time the person is conscious).

it also seems to be pretty routine for them if they stick this in all their tech. I'd be willing to bet we're talking hundreds of megabytes - gigatbytes probably (its hard to quantify precisely because we dont know anything about resolution or image quality or other important data) - of storage data incorporated into something whose primary function is a bionic eye (which as we know from early on also has IR vision modes - these are the same augmetics from the beginning of the book, in fact.) So even if the storage space is rather low the ability to incorporate so many different capabilities into something the size of an eye (for an underhive house that is not even of the nobility) is damn impressive.

Page 90
The darkness enveloped him in anonymous comfort, and his black clothing and thermal cloak added to the camouflage. His goggles amplified the ambient light, allowing him to see more clearly.
...
Uriah paused after each misstep, drawing the cloak'around him tighter to shield him from thermal optics.
More fun Delaque tech. Thermal camoflage and NV goggles.

Page 95
The medical adhesive strip he'd attached to his face stung, but it kept the wound closed. After a few moments, he applied water from a bottle to the strip and felt it bubble against his skin. A few seconds more, and the strip dissolved, leaving him with a wound glued shut and, hopefully, no scar.

More wonders of Van Soar technology, Uriah thought...
Van Saar medical tech.

Page 100
Not as well-built as the Lords of Ruin themselves, but well-defined and scarred enough to have seen combat of her own. Uriah had heard of such men and women, those within the gang who refused to inject themselves with the chemicals to add obscene muscle mass. The Goliaths considered them to be inferior, but never enough to treat them harshly.
Some Goliaths don't achieve those absurdly massive bulks and strengths. I never used to think about it, but I wonder what the drawbacks to that extreme musculature is from the chemical enhancement? There would have to be something - increased energy consumption, more strain on the body, problems (or changes) to the respiratory system? I'd imagine augmetics would be a better idea.

Page 101-102
With little thought, Uriah cut away the stitches with his knife and spread the wound open with his gloved hands. There was no heartbeat, so little blood to spill. Uriah cut through the thick ropes of pectoral muscles to reach the sternum and ribs. Cantrall had swapped six ribs as well as the breastbone with titanium replacements. Uriah exam­ined where the bone ribs gave way to metal, and proceeded to crack the bolted seams.

...
Uriah removed the skeletal plate of titanium, revealing the exposed organs; he instantly spotted the octagonal heart accelerant that was fused against the grey-red heart itself.
...
"It can boost the heart rate, oxygenate the blood more easily and deliver an electric charge to stimulate the heart"
Bionic replacement and upgrades (metal plates again!). The heart accelerant has several functions. I'd guess it provides a way to restart the heart (emergencies), boost heart rate (and body performance), and improve oxygen supplied to the rest of the body (to help support enhanced performance.) It might even help complement for the insane Goliaht physiques,

Page 104
"Which House did you belong to?" Uriah said. "You're too well-spoken and too well-learned to have been raised outside of a Guild school."
Education opportunities are limited on Necromunda, you either belong to a House to get educated (which will be variable) or to the Guilders. Capitalism!

Page 124-125
He pulled a rectangular matchbox-like container from his pouch and fixed it inside the door frame, at knee height. It stuck to the metal, clinging with magnetic grip. A second later, a tiny burst of air sounded from the matchbox and Uriah caught die glint of the silvery flechette firing into the opposite wall of the corridor.
..
At every second door, he affixed another matchbox to the door frame and waited for the puff of air to follow. Each time, he placed the matchbox at a different height and reminded himself of its location.
..
He heard someone scream and glanced back long enough to see that someone had run into the first micro-wire that he'd strung across the corridor. It looked like it had cut an inch into his nose, slicing car­tilage, before snapping.
Micro wire traps

Page 125-126
Next to Slag was a behemoth, someone of Goliath stature with pistons and mechanical claws for arms and hands. His shoulders, and spine, were also plated implants.
..
The behemoth reached the sec­ond wire trap and snapped it a quarter inch inside his flesh. He never slowed; he never reacted to the pain or the cut that stretched across his muscled chest.
...
. It was only when the third tripwire snapped against the behemoth's artificial legs that Uriah tried running.
An Augmetically enhanced Orlock beast. Also effects of mirco wires again.

Page 128
He pressed a small but­ton on the matchbox's side. The near-invisible flechette fired into the nearby wall, but neither man noticed. They searched him and removed his pouches while he raised his arms in mock surrender, bringing the match­box and micro-line well above their heads.
...
Uriah brought his arms back down, and in one quick flick of the wrist looped the wire around the first Orlock's neck. Before either ganger could react, Uriah punched the second ganger in the nose with the match­box still in hand. That pulled the wire tight around the neck of the first ganger, cutting deep into his flesh. The filament sliced through both jugulars and the throat, enough to send arterial spray everywhere. The second man reeled back, momentarily blinded from the pain of his shattered nose.
More micro-wires.

Page 134
..an armoured truck swept around the corner...
..
The heavily-plated armoured car turned and spun into a bootlegger one hundred and eighty degrees, bringing the back end forward. It screeched to a halt on the street, bullets ricocheting off its skin.
..
..the rear doors swung open, revealing a shielded turret bolter manned by someone in scuffed chain-armour. The Enforcer squeezed the trigger and unleashed a barrage of high-velocity rounds. In seconds the armoured car was pacifying the street, ripping walls to shreds, causing bikes to explode and killing Cybilline Sisterhood Escher and Soulsplitter Orlocks alike.
Enforcer vehicle.

Page 139-140
"Wait, you believe in the Machine Spirit too?"

"Most Requisitioned pay some lip service to the Machine Spirit, but yes, I do believe. It's hard working with devices without seeing the miracle in them. I'm more surprised that you do, however. Never seen a Handler thank the Machine. "
...
"I'd be more careful about talking to the Machine Spirit in public. "
...
"'There's nothing wrong with paying it thanks."
"Not for some folks. Others think it's a Van Saar streak - they might question your loyalties"
Again the whole 'machine spirit' dogma is not uniformly held to on Necromunda, at least in the lower levels - it's more of a secret or specialised thing much like the Redemption and worship of the Emperor. Indeed, the association of the Machine Spirit with Van Saar is not unlike the Redemption/Emperor being associated with Cawdor.

Page 145
Uriah reached his cycle, its green chassis housing a massive engine and two thick wheels. He hated the fact that he couldn't use this cycle anywhere outside the Underhive. Unfortunately, the Underhive had been lacking in public transportation for Helmawr knows how many millennia but was also a place where Uriah really needed to get around.
More on Underhive trnasport, or rather the lack of it.

Page 154
...Kaden was kneeling and staring down the scope of a sniper rifle aimed right at him. Uriah winced as the gunshot echoed through the chamber; he felt certain of the outcome. It took Uriah a quick moment to realise the shot wasn't intended for him. Rot-Tongue slumped forward, the back of his skull a rose of exposed brain and skull, his eyes emptied of life.
Sniper rifle.

Page 165
"Rumour was she fled to another hive."

"Are there such things?" the assistant asked, her eyes wide in amazement.

"Nobody knows for sure. I like to think there are."
The delaque don't know about the other hives existing.

Page 182
He pressed it against the lump behind his right ear and pushed hard.
...
Despite the sharp pain that shot through his neck, Uriah gritted his teeth and jabbed the injury; he found the plastic edge of the double-chambered ampoule beneath the fold of flesh. The agony flared, but he pulled the ampoule free of the skin pouch; he then spent a moment breathing hard while keeping his hand pressed against his neck. When the bleeding stopped completely, Uriah gently cracked open the ampoule's seal and removed the metal splinters hidden inside.
Skin pouch. Good for hiding small stuff.

Page 182
With little time to spare, Uriah withdrew the blue splinter from its sheath and gripped its disc-like head between his forefinger and thumb. He then reached through the bars closest to the cage door and felt around for the lock. When he finally found it, after some fumbling, he jammed the splinter into the door's lock and pressed the disc head as hard as he could. He let go of the splinter when he felt the flash of heat from it. A second later, the splinter consumed itself with a tiny pop, melting the lock in a quick chemical flash. The interior of the lock dissolved and the door unlocked.
Lock-melting chemical splinter thingy. Last time I estimated some 600-700 kj, which is probably reasonably accurate (call it half a MJ to 1 MJ) Given he could hide it relatively inconspicuously behind the ear and it is held between thumb and forefinger I'd be surprised if it wsa more than a cm in diameter and a few cm long, and probably nto more than a few grams (about 4 grams is what I figured), which would give a thermal output around 120 MJ or so.

Again this shows Imperial tech is pretty sophisticated in the chemical technologies (weapons, etc.) in at least certian ways (as if bolters and caseless ammo didn't prove that.) but it doesn't apply generally or in all respects.

PAge 185-186
"Too bad you died about ten sec­onds ago."
...
He cocked the pistol and was about to pull the trigger when tremors overtook his body. Rival's good eye widened as he realised Uriah had done something to him. Uriah used the moment to his advantage and kicked Rival in the knees. The ganger went down, howl­ing in pain as his kneecap shattered at the end of Uriah's boot.

The tremors were now crippling, and Rival shook uncontrollably on the ground. His howl turned to grunts as Uriah clamped his hand over Rival's mouth; the ganger was too weak to fight back.

....
...Uriah removed the small splinter that he'd rammed into Rival's bicep when he tackled him.
...
"Nasty little poison, this." Uriah said. "Kills all muscle control in your body. Your outside flesh is essentially dead, your organs untouched. You're living inside a corpse's shell. Soon, your lungs will stop breathing, leaving all but your brain untouched. You'll suffocate to death, aware of it all."
From another splinter in the same skin pouch ampoule. The Imperium's tech is good with poisons too, it seems.

Page 191
Here, the waste and debris pyramids would be left to decompose for several months before gatherers finally collected the vile waste as fertilizer for the fungus farms.
Ah, the self sufficiency of necormunda. They'll cultivate almost anything as a food source, and whole native ecosystems flourish (they need to get ratbile and wildsnake, two of their favorite alcohols, from somthing...)

Page 199
Within minutes of arriving with Uriah, Voice was strapped into a gurney with a coagulant accelerant piped into her arm.
More medical tech.

Page 200
"This should accel­erate the healing process." She tended to the wound behind Uriah's neck, sealing it up after having inserted a new packet. "Did the ampoules help?"
"Saved my life." Uriah replied. "Used the fuse pick to burn open a lock and used the poison needle to kill a frightening man."
Another implanted skin pouch and van saar medical tech. Seems to create scar tissue or clotting, not unlike what Marines can do.

Page 201
"It's a Van Saar sedative designed to simulate a full eight hours sleep over the span of an hour. The dreams are fast and pitched, but you will feel rested for the while"
More Van Saar drug stuff.

Page 202
The Orlock research outpost of Stainstrip owed more to machine shops than the relatively sterile facilities of the Van Saar. Oily chains hung from the sleds mounted on ceiling tracks, metal fillings littered the floor and a variety of instruments were crammed against the labo­ratory's walls. Band saws, mounted chain-blades, drill pistons, compressed tanks of actuator fluid and all kinds of heavy industrial equipment. Where the Van Saar used finesse, the Orlock's Tech-Trust was more about rivets than screws, skin bolts than bone pins, iron than chrome-plated alloys, machetes than scalpels.
In short, Stainstrip exemplified the nature of Orlocks and their heavy-handed approach to technology.
Orlock R&D facility. In short.. HERETICAL RESEARCH.

Page 205
"The infusion is tem­porary. The drug I administered is masking your body's pain. When it wears off, and it will, then everything you felt before will be revisited. You'll need real rest, then. I just - I couldn't bear to see you so exhausted, so hurt."
,..

"All is forgiven, then. How long do I have?"
"A day."
So the fancy sleep drug was more of a stimulant type thing.

Page 210
.. the last implant - a lung scrubber that neu­tralised harmful gases and airborne poisons.
Another useful implant.

Page 211
Shina District operated under the aegis of one corpo­rate entity with multiple House partnerships. The local business was water reclamation and filtration for the rich inhabiting the Spire a mile above, and the Enforcers were a strong presence. The district was supposed to be neutral territory, above the House turf wars because of its importance to the Spire; while the local gangs kept matters civilised, the Enforcers overlooked their activi­ties.

The area seemed calm, a definite change from the chaos of Rival's temple or Corval's building. Uriah knew that would change soon. The information Derrik withheld from Kaden included the names of several acquaintances including a bio-surgeon named Hauser. It wouldn't take Kaden or Slag long to uncover that bit of intelligence, if they realised that Corsikan was trying to remove his implant.
Heat Sinks and other power generation were in the past for Necromunda described in similar terms. Basically key facilities for the survival of the Hive get 'special dispensation' and can remain independent of most any factions. I imagine anything to deal with enviormental or atmospheric recycling gets similar status.

Page 212
..cylindrical skylight made of stained glass under a ferro-iron lattice
FERRO-IRON. Just like white-hot green laser beams. :P

Page 213
The annexe's interior was open, with long tracts of gardens. Carved sculptures of noblemen served as columns that supported the second-storey ledge run­ning the circumference of the annexe. Open stalls ran the length of the second-storey ledge. It was a tranquil place and one of the few obvious gems to be found below Hive Primus's Spire.
Uriah recognized the principle at work here. The con­glomerate that ran the water purification plant likely provided this market space. It allowed the spouses of workers to manage their patch of the communal field, either harvesting food and animals for themselves, or selling their goods in the shops on the second floor. The practice kept the workers happy, but importantly, made them and their families more dependent on the con­glomerate's good graces.
Nice, a touch of santiy amidst all the madness.

Page 215
Uriah attached two small suction cups to the glass and, with a glass-cutter, sliced out a pane from the window. He gently pulled on the suction cups' grips and yanked the glass free. After retrieving the suction cups, Uriah was on the metre-wide ledge, pray­ing nobody outside would see him.
IIRC from Mythbusters, this does not work as often depicted. :P

Page 220
Hauser cut into the lungs to continue removing me rust-coloured spherical device with intake wings clamped on both lungs.
The lung implant.

Page 221
It was rectangular and easily concealable in the palm of his hand. Uriah pulled on a small knob on the device's head and extended an antenna-like rod. He touched the antenna to the implant and waited a moment for it to confirm his suspicions. The implant beeped repeatedly. Voice was telling the truth. The implants were booby-trapped.
bomb detector.

Page 224
The ammunition being used in battle wouldn't stop for flesh or bone. It would travel through two or three people before lodging in the wall.

The daughter would die alongside her parents when the first bullet struck them. A couple of wild shots were already hammering the column they hid behind, goug­ing out fist-sized chunks.
An indication of the power and lethality of the weapons involved, which involves both energy and projectile weapons, I might add.

Page 230-231
Uriah stood from his hiding spot, arms raised. In one hand, he held the implant. In the other, an explo­sive device.
...
...tossing the explosive to Gordo. Gordo caught the device with an ignorant smile and childlike guffaw.
...
Zero... Gordo caught the blast full in the face.
Uriah knew that tough or not, Gordo's upper body would have disintegrated in the explosion. Unfortu­nately, the yield was stronger than Uriah anticipated; the explosion threw Uriah to the floor, cutting his arm on the bed of broken glass.
A hand-sized explosive device pulverizes the upper torso of a goliath utterly. I'm pretty sure that's way above a few grenades worth of firepower, easily.

Page 232
Slag screamed as a sniper bullet tore through his gun shoulder; he dropped the pistol. More shots rang out, and the man holding Uriah's right arm fell away, the top of his head vanishing in a red smear.
Sniper fire again.

Page 239
.. so her first detailed examination used what she called a microscopic fibre-opto to explore the heart accelerant's interior.
Probably some sort of fibre optic camera or something. I imagine thats what Van Saar uses.
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Next up Salvation, an incredibly odd novel. Which may not be unusual for Goto, but the problem is.. there's the element of a good story here, but Goto didn't carry it off in the right way. You have either the elements of an ian-watson style 'Space Marine' type story without the Space Marines (highlighting the Imperium from a perspective of silliness and absurdity, which would inject a much needed dose of humor into 40K) or you could have 'indiana Jones and the Hive City of Doom', which woudl also work. Ironically the cover of the book displays the latter, and also has absolutely nothing to do with much of the book itself. The idea of 'exploring to discover forgotten artifacts' would have worked well, since many other Necromunda stories tend to play on similar themes (Necromunda take on zombie movies in Back from the Dead, Necromunda take on Western movies in Outlander, Necromunda version of Ciaphas Cain with Kal Jerico, etc.) but that's not what we have. What we have is some weird protagonist who sniffs books and is a general doofus who manages to muddle through problems and trouble by sheer luck... as well as three different groups (four?) after him. IT feels more like 'Muppet 40k' than anything, and that's probably crediting it with more sanity.

And yet there is a certian charm in the absurdity.Goto should have gone for more of a Ciaphas Cain/Ian Watson approach to 40K. He simpyl does do grimdark well. He does goofy well, and that could have worked well. But I think many of this novels tried for 'serious' and just failed (like Eldar Prophecy.)

A good example was Jonas the Excavating Librarian from Dawn of War: Ascension. I actually like him. I thought he was a fun and interesting character. But I never liked Gabriel, and I didn't much care for Isador. Goto's writing of Gabreil and Isador (and the Eldar Emo drama) was generally silly and goofy (cue all ym references to Gabriel 'having an episode.')

Page 8-9
He was not an observant man at the best of times, even when his nose was not pressed deeply into the glue-cracked spine of an ancient tome. He read with his whole being, always sniffing each page before he read it, hunching over his desk and pushing his face close to the parchment, as though certain that he could inhale some of the original intent that the author had been unable to transliterate into the orderly etchings of script.
...
He called it his desk because he sat at it every night and read for three hours exactly. In the four and three-quarter years that he had been permitted access to the higher levels of the librar­ium, he had never once seen another curator sitting at that desk. Hence, he reasoned, it was as good as his. Every ninth evening, he would carefully place his stylus into an ostensibly careless position on the desk and leave it there overnight.
Our hero, people. This sort of thing comprises about the first 1/5 of the book or so, and I have to admit that this being the first Goto novel I had ever read, pretty much summed up my whole view of him up to this point.

Page 12
It rose erratically from the barren wastelands of the surrounding planes to a height of about ten miles, slicing through the permanent layer of lethally poisonous, yellowing and noxious undercloud at about three miles, created by the continuously vom­iting factories of Necromunda. Then, at the five mile mark, there was the layer of natural cloud, thick and billowing, as the heavier toxins rained down into the underlayer leaving only the relatively clean, acidic water vapour congealing into a thick cumulus belt...
This may or may not be a novelized version of the diagram in the Necromunda games and stuff, but frankly I don't remember

Page 12-13
The great Ko'iron librarium was a tower of more than one hundred levels; at unbelievable expense, it had been built on one of the exterior walls of Hive Primus, five-point-two miles from the Underhive. The founders of the great House had insisted that its curators should be granted the extra­ordinary privilege of natural light by which to study the history and glory of Ко' iron over the generations to come. Hence, the librarium protruded like a thorn from the side of the Spire, the windows of three sides pointing out into Necromunda's vaporous atmos­phere and the fourth connected by a web of bridges and walkways back into the Spire itself.

In fact, the Ko'iron curators enjoyed almost no natural light at all. The House Ko'iron architects had overlooked the fact that this altitude was perpetually enshrouded by the natural cloud belt. When the local star was at its peak, just after noon, a thin yel­low light filtered through the thick clouds, but it was certainly not enough to read by. In any case, most of the curators would be on their lunch-breaks at that time. Unfortunately, the architects had been so stub­born about the potential wonders of natural light that they had neglected to install sufficient interior lighting - thus, like the other curators in the librar­ium, Zefer had to carry a supply of candles with him at all times. Rather than producing the most magnif­icent librarium in the Spire, bathed in the splendour of natural light, House Ko'iron actually boasted the darkest and dingiest librarium out of all the Spire's great Houses.
Necromundan engineering at its 'finest'. A good majority of the book are little 'ironies' like this, particularily those of a bureaucratic nature (or rather mindlessly bureaucratic. Goto seems a bit obsessed by that in this book, which reflects attitudes he's displayed in short stories as well.)

Page 14
He looked nervously over each shoulder, as though suspi­cious that this would be the first night in nearly five years that there would be someone else on the seventy-third floor, watching him. He couldn't see anyone, but it was almost completely dark beyond the reach of the candlelight, so there might have been an entire troop of Delaque spies waiting in the shadows for all he knew.
We call this irony, because as it turns out, there ARE spies waiting in the shadows, spying on him. Apparently Library espionage is a big thing on Necromunda.

Page 15-16
The goggles blinked and whirred, chiming quietly when they clicked into focus and then buzzing when the image fuzzed again. They were an old and unreli­able technology, with a blind spot right in the middle of the lens where the tiny pixels on the little image intensifier had burnt out, but they were all that Krelyn had been left with after House Delaque's Red Snake gang had cut her off. She bobbed her head slightly, like a mongoose taunting a cobra, trying to trick the gog­gles into focussing on the speck of reality hidden behind the digital blind spot, but it was no use. The faulty pixels where precisely those used for focussing, so the little machine had no hope.

Clicking the goggles to manual, Krelyn estimated the distance between her rooftop perch and the circular access tunnel set into the wall on the other side of the street.
..
About three hundred metres, thought Krelyn, thumbing the dial on the side of the goggles and watching the image leap into focus.
Insert own McBain goggles joke here. On a more serious note, these are Delaque issue goggle/visors, which actually seem to be fairly sophisticated (By Imperial terms, shock and amazement) even though the person in the book considers them 'old and unreliable' - how many IG regiments would kill to have tehse even with the blind spot! Mainly the implied fancy-ness from the 'pixel' bits in the image intensifier, which basically means magnification is cool.
Luckily they have a manual zoom function, although you have to do the math in your head :P

Page 18
She was supposed to ensure that the librarium was emptied each night, and to monitor the movements of those employees who kept unsociable hours.
..
It usually took another couple of minutes before the spies started to appear. There were invari­ably five of them; Krelyn presumed that one was in the employ of each of the other Noble Houses of the Spire. She wasn't sure why they would want to spy on the Ko'­iron librarium, but she was aware that Ko'iron also sent spies into the librariums of a couple of the other Houses, especially Ulanti and Catallus. Indeed, she had served for a time as a spy in the upper levels of the Ulanti librarium, keeping tabs on the discoveries of the curators who were researching the history of that ancient House.
Like I said earlier, LIBRARY espionage.

page 19
..Krelyn was confident that she would be almost invisible from the ground - her cloak was made of a special, unre-flective fabric that actually drew light into it, soaking it up from the surrounding air like a sponge, producing a blurry phase-field that cast the wearer into a perpetual dusk. Wearing the cloak was like having tinted glass windows on your transporter, but without the trans­porter.
Delaque cloaks and their super-invisibilty properties. We also learn later in this novel (and in others like Fleshworks) they also help to mask body heat.

Page 20
Slashed across his face was a visor of midnight blue - an optical enhancer used by Delaque spies in particularly bad light to heighten their already sharp vision, or in intense light to pro­tect their sensitive eyes.
More on the fancy Delaque visors.

Page 21
Conversely, there would be nothing gained from following one of the other spies and try­ing to prise the information out of them - Krelyn was well aware of the pycho-conditioning undergone by all Delaque agents and she still had the scars on the base of her neck to prove it. Besides, her masters in House Ko'iron would not look favourably on the creation of the kind of major diplomatic incident that would arise if she damaged the servant of another House, even if that servant had been spying on Ko'iron's famous librarium.
As far as library espionage goes, there seem to be certain.. 'rules of engagement' that are unofficially held to, which is rather rare I'd think on Necormunda, given how the politics goes in between the families in all other respects. In any case, there is psycho-conditioning to make interrogation tactics futile (what that conditioning entails is completely unknown. It could be anything from preventing details from being spilled to instant suicide if captured or tortured.)

Page 26
Like the vast majority of people in Hive Primus, Krelyn had never been outside the immense edifice, and any reminder that there was an outside made her slightly nauseous. Like most people on Necromunda, she was intensely agoraphobic, and the thought of five miles of open space beneath her feet made her eyes bulge as she dashed through the last few metres of the tunnel.
supposedly, most hive owrlders on Necromunda are Agorophobic. It makes sense in some respects given their enviroment (Closed in vs wide open spaces - they tend to associate the outside with being a complete shithole) but I can't believe everyone holds to that - at least not everyone in the underhive, since quite a few novels (like Outlander) have people traversing the outside to get from one place to another.

Page 27
Clicking to infra-red on her visor, Krelyn studied the marble steps. The stone showed no trace of footsteps -it was an incredible heat-conductor and thus a tracker's nightmare. However, there was a thin strip of carpet that ran up the middle of the stairs, and Krelyn could just about make out the telltale pink of human thermo-prints heading up into the upper levels. Five nimble spies and a heavy-footed curator left just about enough of a heat trail, even after half an hour.

Springing up the steps two at a time, but keeping her eyes trained on the ground to keep track of the thermal images, Krelyn rapidly ascended into the upper levels of the librarium.
Delaque visors (or at least the ones in this book!) also have an IR mode in addition to night vision and other capabilities.

Page 37-38
The Breath of Fresh Air was an unusual establishment. At first glance it looked like a genius-stroke of plan­ning. Outside its main doors was a huge, four-bladed fan in the junction of three enormous ventilation shafts. It was the only fan in this area of Hive City, and thus the only source of even remotely fresh air, which made it an extremely valuable site.
..
However, the genius of the site also bordered on insanity. The fan was the biggest point of contention
between three separate gangs that held territory along each of the ventilation pipes that fed it. Gangers from all three would frequent the Fresh Air, which brought in a great deal of money. But with the gangers came tension, broken bottles and occasional skirmishes, which cost a great deal of money.
This is actually the opposite of the bar in Fleshworks, that drew in clients through piping in factory fumes for them to get high off of. Again, the ingenuity and capitalist spirit of the Necromundans must never be underestimated!

Page 38
The proprietor was a tiny man, not more than a metre tall. He only had one eye, but never wore a patch - he liked to watch people staring into the open socket with his other eye. He told everyone that his growth was stunted by the potency of the liquor that he dis­tilled in the smoky backrooms of the Fresh Air. For some strange reason, this seemed to make people want to drink even more of it, so Squatz prided himself on his rare psychological insight.
Yep a short guy, named Squatz, associated with Alcohol. I wonder if this is supposed to be a reference to the long lost Space Dwarves. They went to hide on Necromunda, obviously.

PAge 42-43
She was not entirely sure that her equipment still functioned well enough to enable her to perform these functions. Most of it, like her goggles, was old and decrepit - it had not been replaced since her masters in House Delaque lost the lucrative Ko'iron Contract nearly ten years before.
..
..Krelyn had been on her own amongst the ritual and pompous splendour of the Spire, struggling to service her own equipment and to fulfil her obligations to her adopted masters.
Maintenance and repair of own equipment, which implies some knowledge of its workings.. and probably not anything pertaining to Machine Spirit stuff, either.

Page 43
Her firearms were a completely different story. She was trained to use them, not to maintain them. A glo­rious example of a pilfered Van Saar laspistol, perhaps the finest weapon that Krelyn had ever had the good fortune to steal, was displayed in a wrack above her bed. Before she was posted up in the Spire, she had even had the audacity to take it to a House Van Saar weaponsmith to have it customised to her require­ments - the butt was extended into a shoulder-brace for better stability on ranged shots, almost transform­ing it into a rifle. As it was, she could wear it hanging vertically at her side, with a simple strap securing the stock under her armpit.
This suggests some 'laspistols' may actually cross the line into rifle territory, barring the stock. Or perhaps some laspistols are actually the energy weapon version of PDW/SMGs?
Again maintenance of equipment can be expected to be normal amongst people without significant access to techpriests. So naturally belief in those things probably is not as prevalent. :P

Page 57-58
"Oh, I see what has happened. BFD5BF is a number. After the first few years, the queue grew so large that it became increasingly inconvenient to employ numbers in base-ten. Hence, we shifted to base-sixteen, which obviously required the use of a few letters. Actually, the new system is working very well indeed. Take your own number, for example. Had that been written in base-ten it would barely have fitted on the pass!"
...
"If I'm not very much mistaken, you are number thirteen million, four hundred and ten thousand, two hundred and twenty six, as you would say in conven­tional decimal terms. CC9FB2, as we would say, more correctly, in hexidecimal."
..
"CC9FB." replied the little man cheerfully. "Eight hun­dred and thirty eight thousand, one hundred and thirty nine."
...
"There are more than twelve and a half million people ahead of me in the list..."
This is an abbreviated summary of what I call the 'Adventures in Bureaucracy' phase of the story. Basically once our hero (the book sniffing obsessive compuslive) actually gets out of the Library he sets out on the mighty quest to... get noticed by people higher up so he can tell them what they discovered and encompasses a substantial chunk of the book. Probably not literally a fifth of it, since the first thirty pages or so include him sniffing books in the library to make his discovery, and there are all the 'ganger' subplots which tie into this later on (sort of) but it feels like it drags out that long. It's one of those things that really just fails to engage me when I read it.. this part of the story could have spent time showing how life in the upper levels of Necromunda was, and then do a contrast later on once they get into the lower levels, and going lower.. but it gets caugth up in the tedium of trying to be 'absurd' and funny in a hit-or-miss manner. I'm not sure why Goto thought it would be funny to take us on a detailed journey through the Administratum equivalent of a PDF, but he apparently did.

That said, this specific bit of weird actually succeeds in being funny, IMHO. The Necromunda equivalent of 'take a number/now serving' type shit involves hexadecimal, base-sixteen stuff due to sheer numbers. I dont know if Goto got it right or not, but he gets points for trying. And if he had not kept this going for a good 1/5 to 1/4 of the novel, it might have been even more amusing, but the whole 'Adventures in Bureaucracy' crap goes on and on which gets.. tedious.

They also mention more than a few people die waiting which is.. pretty funny in a morbid way. It even happens later on right in front of the guy, and it just kinda reinforces the absurdity of the whole thing. If Goto had just kept this bit and trimmed down the rest I probably wouldnt object to this story quite so much.

This also shows up a bit of that 'ignorance' bit, since they apparnety know enough not only to count, but count by other formats. At least in the higher levels, and even if they use it for fairly trivial and useless shit.

Page 59
It had taken six years to get through eight hundred thousand places on the queue. Six years. And that was partly because hardly anyone had actually turned up for their appointments. Zefer couldn't even do the maths. He had no idea how long it would take to get through another twelve and half million people. Come to that, he had had no idea that there were even that many people in the Spire, let alone in House Ko'iron or in the Historical Research Section.
This means that in the uppermost levels (the noble levels at least) of the spire there are at least tens if not hundreds of millions ofpeople, not including the noble families themselves.

Page 73
"Are you saying that there is something down at the bottom of the hive that belongs to me?"

"Yes, yes, I suppose I am suggesting that." admitted Zefer, somewhat shocked that the little girl had seen straight through to the most material implications of his story.

"And, you have come here to tell me that you are going to get it for me?" she asked, smiling sweetly.

"Oh, um, no. No, that's not quite why I'm here, I don't think." replied Zefer, suddenly confused about what he expected to happen as a result of this meeting.

"But, if you don't go and get it, why should anybody believe what you are saying. It's just a story for chil­dren, isn't it?" explained Gwentria wisely. "So, I think that you should go." she concluded with a firm nod.

With that, there was a loud clunk and a hiss, and the wall behind the huge, squishy seat in which Gwentria was enthroned drew up into the ceiling. In the space behind was revealed a group of scribes, each feverishly scribbling onto clipboards, presumably recording the details of the conversation, thought Zefer. The strange, stick-like permittor from the other side of the brightly lit corridor was also there. He looked up as the wall vanished into the ceiling, making a few last marks on his clipboard.

"CCA04, this is the end of your audience. Please come with me." said the permittor as he strode through the chamber towards Zefer, picking his way naturally over the mess of toys on the floor. "It is time for her excellency's nap now."
This is another part of the 'Adventures in Bureaucracy' bit, where he actually gets an audience with someone high up.. who happens to be a little girl. A little girl who, as we see, manages to totally outwit our Fearless Hero and send him off on a mission without any aid or idea about how to do it. And he doesn't evne realize any of that. Unintentionally funny or delibearetly so? I can't decide

Either way we're stuck with watching him continue to amble about asking where he gets his supplies, stand in line, and generally get passed about like an administrative football until he's booted out of the hive and realizes he can't get bakc in. Whereupon he gets passed around the various gangs.. like a football. At least when THat happens things tend to get more interesting.

Page 76
Even from this intimate distance, she could only just make out the shape of a stooped man hurrying down the tunnel. His cloak was long and impossibly dark, just like her own, and it shielded him from the attentions of the already dim light.

She watched the man take a few steps and then van­ish in the darkness. She clicked her visor onto infra-red, but the thermal balancing of the Delaque cloak meant that she could only see him for another step or two before he was utterly invisible.
...
Then suddenly there was a face, bright and blaring with heat immediately in front of her.
Delaque cloaks mask body heat. Of course that can have drawbacks I'd imagine. I wonder how damn hot it would get under cloaks like that?

Page 85
. Narrowing her eyes, her visor clicked up the magnification and Orthios's fingertips seemed to zoom towards her face.
Zoom mode. SEems to be fairly automatic (or responds to some cues other than touch or voice)

Page 94
It seemed blatantly obvious to her: if an Undying Emperor, or whatever those ridiculous Redemptionists called it, ever really walked the surface of Necromunda, that Emperor must have been a woman.
..
And then her informant had come to her with whis­perings of a piece of archeotech, hidden in the depths of the Underhive, an artefact that might prove to the weak willed Redemptionists, to Triar's pathetic Salva­tionist gang, and to the ridiculous Noble Houses that He was in reality a She. It was pathetic that anyone would require proof, as though Elria's own strength were not proof enough.
One of the subplots of the story is the Cawdor vs Escher argument over whether the Emperor is a man or a woman, and our Noble Hero (who goes by the name Zefer Tyranus btw) gets caught in the middle as his little discovery in his book sniffing is apparently tied up in what they (and others, as we learn) are searching for....

Which is why I said that Zefer ends up getting passed around like a football amongst the gangs once he steps into the underhive.

This also illustrates something that doesnt sit well with me. While I know the Escher theme in Necromunda was 'women are strong, men weak' and sort of a strong (and even abusive) Matriarchy, this character really just feels.. one dimensional. It really feels like Goto has her acting and doing things that are supposed to scream I HATE MEN without actually saying it (although they may actually do that too, I admit I didn't pay attention to that.) Characters can actually be one of goto's weak points when he tries for stuff like this, and its not the first time in a book this has come up.

Then again she is an Escher pyrokinetic with glowing eyes and animated hair (some sort of weird medusa effect I guess.. he seems to have a real mythology fixation in this story)

Page 111
Looking over to his right, Zefer could see the back of the Spiral Gates, dirty and pockmarked, but with tiny flecks of shiny metal glinting here and there. Before them a full scale riot was in progress, with hundreds of people pressing into the little open space that served as a plaza. The momentum of the crowd pushed towards the gates, but the guardsmen in front of them had their weapons drawn, and they were laying down a constant
stream of fire into the crowd, felling row after row of screaming rioters. The line of guards was three men deep, so that they could rotate as the front line began to run low on ammunition. The plaza was in chaos, with guardsmen and rioters hacking at each other with machetes and bludgeoning with pipes, leaving growing numbers of dead bodies to mount into piles before the gates.

"What's going on?" shouted Zefer to the guard next to him, horrified.

"What? What do you mean?" yelled the guard, leaning his mouth right up to Zefer's ear to make sure that he would hear.

"This... this riot." said Zefer, not really sure what to call it as he waved his arm vaguely at the mass of vio­lence in front of the gates.

"Oh, that." replied the guard, nodding casually. "Yeah, it's quiet today. Welcome to Hive City... sir."
I quoted this simply because I couldnt be sure it was funny, silly, absurd, or all of the above. As it is it marks the end of Adventures in Bureaucracy, so that can be worth it all its own.

PAge 114
For the first time, he realised that he was in a long, narrow waiting room. There were seats running the lengths of both sides, each one occupied by progressively less sanitary-looking people.
..
Above its shoulders hung two security drones, bristling with camera lenses and gun barrels, which were also pointed directly at Zefer.
Oh good, more bureacracy. although this is more of the lower level variety, so there are guns involved. At least on the drones. Which I am sure are servo skulls of some kind, because thats usually the kind of drone the Imperium uses. :P

Page 123-124
The speaker was the largest human being that Zefer had ever seen. He must have been more than two metres tall - a clear head taller than the others in his gang, who were in turn head and
shoulders taller than anyone else.
And some goliaths appear. I'd guess maybe people in Necromunda are 1.5-1.6 m in height on average? :P

PAge 124
The man's arms were tense with the weight of a huge gun, almost as big as him, which he made no attempt to hide from the authorities... wherever they were.
...
As he spoke, he took a couple of steps forward, racking the mechanism of his autocannon.
goliath bearing an autocannon. and apparently a big one, although I'm not QUITE sure if I believe it is as 'big' as him.. as long as him maybe but even that.. meh.

Page 125
Uglar was staggering back away from him with a huge gash sliced across his chest; blood was spurting out of it and show­ering all over Zefer. A smaller man would be dead already.
Triar's blade flashed again, sparking against the heavy chains around Uglar's neck and severing the straps around the massive autocannon..
An indicator of the toughness of the Goliath leader.

Page 145-146
From the side of the room, a great plume of fire jetted out from a heavy flamer and incinerated Orthios's head before it could reach the gangers with the stub guns. The sheet of flame cut the room in half...
...
Orthios's riddled and smouldering head crumpled into ash as it thudded to the ground in the middle of the room and, over by the table, his body finally lost its balance and fell off its chair.
Human head cremated by heavy flamer in about a second.. which is at least going to be double digit MJ, depending on inefficiencies and energy injected into the process one assumes. then again, there's also the issue of why the flamer doesn't make the head explode (vapour boiling away to steam..) so it could be less than that (less than a MJ for the head, since it would be less than boiling point. I imagine a badly burnt human head is probably going to be pretty weak structurally when it hits the ground after being cooked like that.)

PAge 148-149
Close on her heels was the huge Subversive from the Wall, with bloody bandages tied crudely across his chest, covering the wounds inflicted by the Salvationist ganger earlier on.
...

A staccato of fire rattled behind the two charging fig­ures, and another of The Coven's gangers emerged
slowly from the cloud-line. A chunky ammunition belt was wrapped around her waist and over her shoulder, and the tip of her heavy stubber was smoking.
..
Uglar stumbled as the shots impacted on his back. He was close enough for Zefer to see his bright green eyes widen in anger as he tripped and fell forward onto the ground, skidding to a halt as his momentum failed, and the metal plate on his scalp glinted into Zefer's face.

From his crumpled heap against the wall, Zefer watched the scene in horror, as blood started to ooze out of the gaping wounds in the giant warrior's back.
Our friend who takes the chest slash is still up and moving, apparently with no loss of capability.. and then takes a barrage of heavy stubber shots to the back, delivered by what I take to be an Escher Heavy carrying said heavy stubber. :P

Page 150
Elria didn't move a muscle - knowing that if she showed any signs of fear, they would take her instantly. But she let her eyes scan backwards and for­wards along the line of muscled men before her. Each brandished at least two weapons. Most had blood drenched battleaxes or spiked clubs in one hand and heavy stubbers or autocannons in the other. It took Jermina all of her strength to heft just one of those guns.
An indicator of just how big and strong the Goliaths are. They can pick up (and fire) a heavy weapon like a heavy stubber or autocannon in one hand, even against the recoil. A feat which even a Heavy can just barely manage with two, it would seem.

so what the fuck is the two handed autocannon the leader packs? A tank gun?


Page 160
He had ripped the bandages from his chest, and the huge gashes through his pectoral muscles bubbled and hissed as the toxic fumes invaded the wounds. He showed no sign of noticing the agony of infection and kept his expression fixed on the fire.
The Goliath ganger leader from before again, the one who took a slash to the chest and heavy stubber fire to his back. Now its infection and caustic fumes.. and he's okay with it. I have to wonder if Goto didn't confuse 'Goliath' with 'Space Marine' or something.. this is getting magical even by 40K standards.

Page 160-161
The other Subversives gangers were dispersed around the camp. A bunch of them had pinned the dead body of a Coven ganger against the wall and were firing volleys from their shotguns into it, laugh­ing and drinking. Others were prodding at their weapons and cussing, obviously displeased with equipment that had failed on their raid. Some simply smashed the butts of their guns against the ground and then cast the rains into the pit-fire, whooping and cheering as the ammunition detonated and sprayed the cavern with shot. But most were slumped into the wreckages of vehicles with bottles in their hands, enjoying the heat of the flames and the toxic liquor.

"He is a puny man. We may have broken him already" mumbled Uglar, apparently to himself. His gaze was fixed on the fire, and its reflection danced in the depths of his brown eyes.

..
"It doesn't matter. If he dies, nobody will get there. If he lives, I will get there. Either way, I am the strongest." reasoned Uglar, nodding slightly as the warmth of the fire singed his face.
Goliaths - the closest human equivalent to an Ork you can ever find, I imagine. Of course this is supposed to 'contrast' the Escher or something, that 'Ugh me tough' super barbaric masculinity crap or some stupid shit. Either way, and even allowing for this being Necromunda standards - it feels really awkward and forced. Goliaths are all super men and fight and drink because thats what real super muscled men do. Escher hate men because thats what men-hating strong women do, or something. There's no other dimension than that. Contrast with novels like Fleshworks, where you have Goliath women who are just as muscle bound as the men, and believe as much in strength and physical power (which is what the Goliath were always about - at least thats what I interpreted it as. And the Escher had more behind them than just 'man hating' I'm pretty sure.)

Also, weren't the leader's eyes Green? (oh and his name is Uglar. Naming again is a rather weak point for Goto in his books.)

Page 164
At the signal from Triar, Koorl planted his melta-bomb onto the plasteel of the door and then turned back into cover, vaulting over a pile of the debris that was strewn throughout the area. From his position, he could see the plasma-gunner in Triar's trench take aim with his heavy, shoulder mounted weapon. There was an almost indiscernible nod from Triar and the gunner squeezed off a shell of bright glowing plasma. It seared across the street and punched directly into the melta-bomb, detonating the thermal charge in its own super-heated explosion.

The door melted and blew in all at once, spraying molten plasteel into the building.
I'm not quite sure why they needed to use a plasma gun AND a melta bomb, but eh. Also the plasma weapon si shoulder mounted. Maybe its a plasma cannon. I could probably calc the door if I assumed iron, but why bother, its not even strictly metal and the combination of teo weapons makes separating them hard.

PAge 169
Regardless of the masks that hid their faces, Triar knew that his men would be shocked by the scene that greeted them. They may hate Elria and her Coven of witches, and they may even have been looking forward to the chance to fight them today, but he was sure that they would be shocked to see what had been done to them in their own enclave. Triar and Elria had been at each others throats for years and, if they were perfectly honest, they had learnt to accept a roughly equal bal­ance of power between their gangs in the sector. They fought every now and again, and even killed a few on each side, just to keep everyone on their toes. But the situation was actually pretty stable. Triar harboured a genuine desire to save their souls and, in the mean­time, the conflict gave him an opportunity to exercise his righteousness. The Subversives were brutal people, and they had no place this high up in the hive.

"I suspect that we will find them in the Breath of Fresh Air," announced Triar, after some thought. "That's certainly where I always go when I want to irritate them."
You know, of all the gangs in this book, I actually like Triar and the Redemptionists the most, and that's saying something since the Redemptionists are basically religious fanatics. But he has a sort of.. charm about him even if he is basically a fundie christian type (SAVING SOULS!) I mean by Redemptionist standards he a freaking liberal - he'd rather save people than burn them to ash or torture them or kill them, which is more mainstream REdemptionist ideal.

Page 170
One or two grew rapidly bored of digging and shoul­dered their heavy bolters, shattering the rock with stuttering barrages of explosive shells. Stone shrapnel and errant shells ricocheted around the cavern, sizzling into the burning liquids or burying themselves into the flesh of other gangers, who roared with pain but threw their rage into their work rather than turning on their brothers.

Uglar watched the crude ingenuity of his men and nodded.
Again. Goliaths are human versions of Orks in this novel.

Page 170-171
He knew that they were hor­rified by their brutal existence in the lower levels of the hive, where electricity was scarce and water was richer in toxins than oxygen. Even the air was thick with sludge and the unwanted gases of the Hive City.
...
That gen­teel fop, Triar of Cawdor, would not last a day down in the furnace halls or the slag pits. He would not even have the stomach for the water, let alone for the epic barbarism of the great Feast of the Fallen.
...
There was not a single member of his gang who had not triumphed in the ceremonial pit fights after the Feast of the Fallen. Goliath gangs would not admit just anybody, contrary to the assertions of the softer hivers. It was not enough to be strong or robust. It was not enough to have survived into
adulthood in the harshest environment that the hive had to offer and to have become inured to the toxins and deprivations of life on the cusp of the Underhive. Every Goliath ganger had to make a kill in the pit following the great feast. Every Goliath currently breaking their massively muscled backs against the rock in the floor of this cavern had killed one of their own in the oldest ceremony known to Hive Primus.
A testament perhaps to Goliath durability, and a further reinforcement of their Orkish mentality.

Page 175
Despite his religious beliefs, he too reached behind the bar and snatched a bottle of the house special. "What?" he said defensively. "It's been a hard day."
Again, its hard not to like Triar.

Page 179-180
The Subversives were simply standing their ground around the great pit in the centre, spraying the other tunnels with flame, bullets and bolter shells from their heavy weapons. They stood and absorbed impacts
from the hail of slugs that flashed across at them from the tunnels. A few of them were bleeding from bullet wounds on their limbs and abdomens, but none had yet fallen.
Again, they're frigging orks, up to and including durability. although they might have better accuracy.

Page 180
They had a clutch of autocannons, braced by two women each, that were sending out constant streams of screaming shells, but most of The Coven's gangers carried lighter weapons..
Two woman autocannon teams

Page 181
She risked a peek over the lip of the trench, and saw the Subversives unmoved in their positions around the pit in the centre. Four or five of them had fallen now, with limbs blown clear of their bodies, but at least two of those were still firing their weapons with whatever limbs and whatever strength they had left. Krelyn had to admit that these were seriously tough gangers, and she wondered why Ko'iron had never thought to offer their precious contract to them. As Uglar stooped down and ripped the firing arm off one of his fallen brothers, casting the arm into the immense fire behind him and spitting off a hail of autocannon fire from the pilfered gun, she realised the answer to her own ques­tion. The Subversive on the floor at Uglar's feet roared with pain, and Krelyn realised that he was still alive.

Bizarrely, the body-shock seemed to spur the fallen, dismembered ganger into action, and he jumped to his feet, screaming a guttural call out into the cavern like an injured animal. In a second he was lumbering and running towards Triar's tunnel. But his intention was never to reach the Salvationists. Instead, he stopped suddenly and threw himself onto the ground. As he did so, another explosion shook the ground and the superheated, vaporised remains of the ganger were sprayed back into the faces of his brethren. By throw­ing himself onto the grenade, he had certainly saved a number of the Subversives.
Goliaths. dumb but dedicated. And brutal, because they're barbarians and stuff. And durable.

Anyhow, a grenade powerful enough to obliterate a Goliath (who is going to be many times more massive than a normal person) is probably many times more powerful than a normal (RL grenade)

Page 181-182
Triar stood forward of the tunnel with a gleaming silver orb and hurled it for­ward towards the centre of the cave. Krelyn instantly knew what it was, and she threw herself flat into the trench, pulling her cloak up over her head as a thermal shield.
...
Uglar watched the plasma grenade spin through the air towards him and swore. He yelled an order to his men to scatter and, at the same time, punched the det­onator for the charges that he had planted around the great pit.
...
The plasma grenade and the melta-bombs detonated at the same time. If anyone had been watching they would have been blinded instantly by the starburst of plasma that erupted into an orb above the flaming pit, and then they would have been cooked and flattened by the thermal concussion that rippled out from the blast through the cavern. At the same time, they would have seen the melta-bombs detonate in a staccato sequence around the perimeter of the pit, blowing shards of rock into lethal shrapnel and rapturing the little dams that held the flaming liquid out of the chan­nels in the floor. As the plasma ball radiated death into the air from above the flaming pit, tendrils of burning, toxic liquid gushed into torrents through the trenches towards the little pits in the tunnels' mouths.
Plasma grenades. Man, between that and melta bombs, Necromundan hive gangers get access to some pretty hefty military (or nearl military) hardware.

Also use of a thermal cloak as protection from thermal effects of said grenade.

Page 184
Finally, he found a bunch of metallic tubes tucked into his belt and he tugged one free. Unscrewing the cap and clicking the primer, he lobbed the photon flare into a high arc, making sure that it would not detonate close enough to him to give away his position. After a couple of seconds, it exploded with a burst of intense, white light, showering the cavern with brightness as it incinerated its own shell and sizzled slowly back down to the ground.
Photon flares.

Page 184-185
Clicked to infra-red, she could see pretty well through her visor in the almost complete darkness of the cavern. She could also see that large numbers of the gangers on all sides had been killed by the blasts and the torrents of toxic fluids - their body heat was already ebbing away.
more on Delaque visors and their infra-red capabilities. Damn useful things they are.

Page 184-185
Of the lucky ones who had managed to vault out of the pit before the waves gushed in, another three or four were fried by the thermal blast from Triar's plasma grenade.
..
Triar himself and a couple of his clos­est aides had made it into the shadow of an upturned battle-wagon, which was now an amorphous lump of melted plasteel, after it had absorbed most of the heat wave directed towards the Salvationist gang leader.

"How many left?" asked Triar, reclining gently against the warm and still slightly soft metal blob at his back.
...
"but there are about four of you and perhaps the same of Elria's people "
That would suggest 4 or so of the Escher died.. in the blast or nto we dont know. But 'fry' if it suggests 3rd degree burns would be at least single digit MJ for the plasma grenade. I expect that the yield for the grenade would be many times grater than what the people might have absorbed (double or triple digit MJ perhaps, depending on distances involved and degree of burning. Certainly the fact that it was melting tanks is indicators of significant thermal effects.)

Page 186
Uglar directed the surviving Subversives to collect up the weapons from the remnants of the Salvationists and The Coven gangs, who had been herded down into the great pit in the centre of the cav­ern. The liquid that until so recently had filled the huge pit, had all ran out of the cave or been evaporated by the tremendous heat of the plasma explosion.
a pit big enough to hold at least 8 people is probably a good 4-5 m across, and at least a metre or two deep. Vaporizing that much water would be upwards of 42 GJ, and the quote implies that but we don't actually know how much of it was evaporated and how much ran out. And even then it's possible it was so polluted it might be combustible (I think it was even implied to catch fire earlier) so that could contirbute energy. But still, even if 1/1000th of that energy was from the grenade, we're still talking double digit MJ, which woudl fit with the idea that there was far more energy than to just flash burn a few people.

Page 186
The explosive pit-defences had taken them by surprise, and the plasma grenade that they had hoped would have dealt with the bulk of the Sub­versives force had actually fried as many of their own gangers.
Again the plasma grenade seems to have been VERY energetic.

Page 190
The Subversive was motionless, face down in the dirt, with charred and melted skin drop­ping off his head.
The Escher Wyrd pyro managed to burn the guys skull. triple digit kj maybe for severe third degree flash burns, maybe a fe times that for head boiling?

Page 191
Her cloak ballooned out behind her as she sprung down into the pit, slowing her fall so that she looked as though she were floating. As her feet touched the ground, she jumped again, letting the grav-shooter in her cape reduce her effective weight. She seemed to bounce, flipping up into the air to a height similar to that of the pit's edge, turning a slow somersault and landing again on the far side of the pit, a short distance from the group of uphivers.
I think 'shooter' is supposed to mean some sort of grav-chute, or a suspensor device meant to improve acrobatic leaping, not unlike a REnegade Legion bounce pack or that fancy antigrav belt Eldar Harlequins have. Which again shows you how advanced Necromunda tech is, since this is supposedly in a freaking CLOAK.

It also apparnetly explains lal the weird Matrix-like ninja-ing the Delaque gangers do in this book, and I'm not kidding. Krelyn alone does some fairly crazy close combat shit.

Page 192-196
She spun and flicked out with a short dagger, plunging it into Uglar's lower back where his kidneys should be.
...
...she whipped her hand forward and released the little knife. It flipped end over end until it slit into Uglar's chest, burying itself completely through the half-healed gash that Triar had left there at the Wall.

The Subversives' boss roared in frustration and bat­ted blindly at his chest, trying to dislodge the blade that had already sunk into one of his lungs. As he roared, he coughed, and a mouthful of blood vomited out onto the pit-floor.
...
..she whipped out a couple more throwing knives and darted them at Uglar. One stuck into his exposed shoulder, just inside his collarbone, but he swatted the other one away with a grumpy flick of his sword.
...
..tugging long-bladed daggers from her boots with each hand as she went. She streaked under the descending arc of the broad sword and emerged at Uglar's right shoulder, dragging her two blades through his ribs as she rushed past and out in the middle of the pit once again.
..
With blood gushing out between his ribs and drib­bling down his chest, Uglar yanked the blade free and turned to face Krelyn again. He was dragging the tip of the heavy sword along the ground now, as though the strength to lift the mighty weapon had deserted him. His posture was broken and slumped, as he tried to hold his body in a position that didn't rely on any of the lacerated muscles. As he staggered forward, he stumbled slightly and coughed, and blood started to spill over the edge of his metal jaw.
...
...she flicked out a cluster of throwing knives, exhausting the supply strapped to her thighs. Then she dropped into another roll, reclaiming her curved daggers from her boots, and plunged them for­ward as her spin brought her up onto her knees.
...
..her daggers buried up to their hilts in his stomach. His chest was peppered with throwing knives and there was one sticking out of his forehead.
...
He crashed down onto the pit-floor, his weight driving the knives straight through him, so that their tips protruded out of his back.

A constant stream of blood coursed out of his metal mouth, but his eyes still twitched with the last residue of life. Krelyn touched her knee to the ground next to the giant's head.
...
"Ss 'ver now." replied Ulgar. Then he died.
I wasn't kidding about the weird ninja-ing crap. But the commentary here is more on the sheer durability of the Goliath leader, and this is on top of the abuse we know he suffered in previous battles and by simply being injured in this enviroment. Again they're frigging human orks.

What's even funnier is that after the leader dies Krelyn is now the leader (she's the strongest!)

Page 200-201
"I didn't say it, and neither did anybody else." She was genuinely unnerved now, and not entirely sure that this was Zefer at all. She had heard legends about strange creatures in the Underhive who could take on the form of anything or anyone they consumed. Such creatures were said to be telepathic, luring their victims to their doom with reassuring platitudes injected directly into their minds.
...
"What happened to your arm?" she asked, pointing. Most of the greenish fluid had dried now, but his left arm was still aglow, as though the veins from his shoul­der to his finger tips pulsed with light.


Zefer shrugged and reached the arm out towards her. "I don't know." he answered honestly, as Krelyn stepped back cautiously. "It happened when they put me in that cell. I thought that it might have had something to do with the water."
...
" But my neck feels much better now, and I think that my ribs have healed."
..
"Curator, do you know what wyrds are?"
Our Hero has been infected by magic radioactive green water, which seems to give him mut- err psyker powers (hence, wyrd.) He has super healing, he glows green, and he can hear thoughts. And this means that the Redemptionists (and probably the other gangers) will pursue him.

Page 202
But down here in the depths of the hive, the Subver­sives had to deal with creatures far more terrifying than telepaths and weakling pyros. All of the wyrds from the upper levels who were too mutated or too powerful to pass as ordinary citizens would eventu­ally find their way down here, where the short arm of the authorities would not bother to look for them. When a Goliath ganger yelled "mutant" he really meant it.
The underhive is a really fun place!

Page 203
"But she's not really your boss. Don't you understand about vengeance?" asked Triar rhetorically. "Vengeance is what makes us human. It is what places us above the level of animals. It is what makes us the chosen of the Undying Emperor himself."

Triar was never one to miss the chance to preach, and this sermon might also have the advantage of saving his life.
Ah Triar, you get so many good lines in this book. You almost redeem it from having to endure Zefer.

Page 207
She praised the Emperor for her infra-red visor, without which she would surely have brained herself against the roof.
More night vision mode, and one of the better reasons for praising the Emperor in this book :P

Page 216
The most striking feature, however, was a huge col­umn in the very centre of the square. It must have been a couple of metres in diameter and at least ten metres high. Roughly cylindrical, it could have once been the barrel of one of the great cannons that bristled around the very summit of Hive Primus, protecting House Helmawr from air-raids and attacks from outside the hive. But that would have been long, long ago, and the cylin­der oozed such an aura of permanence that it seemed to have been rooted down here in the foundations of Necromunda since ancient times. Perhaps it had never seen the heady heights of the Spire. Perhaps it dated from before there was a Spire to protect, when the bat­tles for land in the wastes of Necromunda raged horizontally across its surface rather than vertically into the skies.
Necromunda defensive guns.

Page 219
.snatching a stubgun from her back and racking it...
Stub rifle or pistol?

PAge 222
Looking around, she noticed that many of the ratskins bore marks of mutation, as she would have expected at this depth in the downhive, and with muta­tion often came wyrd powers. Despite what the Redemptionists would have people believe, lesser powers such as telepathy were not even that uncommon in Hive City.
Comment on the frequency of low level psyker capability amongst Necromundas populace.

Page 225
Sitting on the edge of the dais, he carefully opened the book onto his knees and pushed his face down into the pages. He sniffed, inhaling deeply and holding the book against his nose as he sat back up again.
Apparently the secret lies in his super-sniffing powers.

PAge 227
Triar must have deployed another plasma bomb. However, as she lay waiting for the superheated sphere of plasma to expand into a miniature star above their heads and incinerate them all, a sudden blast of cool energy coursed through her and the coruscating flames in the air simply blinked out.

Rolling off Ruskin and Zefer and springing to her feet, Krelyn saw Roojika floating on a column of green, liquid light in the middle of the square. Threads and streams of the strange liquid had seeped up from under the scrap-metal floor and extinguished the fiery discharge from the plasma grenade, and a web-like lat­tice of tendrils had caught the fledgling star before it could form, choking the life out of it and suffocating its flames. Roojika was held entranced, muttering and mumbling wordlessly, orchestrating the hive's very own defence mechanisms.

"She's talking to the hive." said Krelyn, the realisation striking her like a concussion.
Another plasma grenade capable of badly burning (or cremating, up for debate) large numbers of people... and the 'hive defence systems' suppressing that action, which makes sense inside a self-contained habitat like a hive. Excessive damage could do unforseen things if you let it. I'm actually rather surprised the Ratskins have some means of accessing/controlling it here... I wonder how they do it.

Page 227
...she heard the crisp report of a bolt gun from the edge of the square and saw the muridae's head explode into a fountain of red.
Bolt weapon

Page 227
Tracing the line of the shot, Krelyn shouldered her stubber and rattled off a hail of heavy bullets towards the shooter.
Stubgun again.

Page 228
..reaching her decision and dropping a chain of frag-grenades into her weapon's reservoir, leaving only one still clipped to her belt.
belt-fed.. grenade launcher?

Page 231
Instead, he felt the weight of Krelyn fall against his back. He stepped aside, and she collapsed forward onto her face with two seeping entrance wounds on her back.

..
..prodded Krelyn with the barrel of her still-smok­ing needle rifle.
Needle rifles apparently leave bigger holes in this novel.

Page 234
Zefer sniffed as he closed his eyes to prevent the particles from stinging them. As he did so, a burst of images besieged the darkness behind his eyes.
..
He saw Triar turning on Elria, and he saw Krelyn bleeding to death on the ground, thumbing a grenade
Apparently the green goo elevated his super sniffer powers to clairvoyant levels. TWIST!

Also again bleeding out from needle rifle wounds.

Page 238
Triar and watching his boss's eyes flare with unearthly blue fire. He had seen the glow of righteousness in those eyes before, but he had never seen them burn so violently. A thread of horror stitched itself into his soul as he realised what it could mean for the Redemptionist firebrand.
...
Triar's voice bellowed unnaturally, sending waves of imperatives and commands rippling through the devastated plaza. As he spoke, all of the gangers stopped hacking, slicing and blasting their way through the haphazard structures of the settlement. He had always been a charismatic and persuasive boss, but there was more to his tone than charm now.
Triar seems to be a wyrd himself, which is ironic, as Elria recognizes him as such (even though Triar doesn't realize it.) This is the second Redemptionist Wyrd in the novels (after Back from the Dead)

Page 241-242
Ruskin stood defiantly in their paths, sucking the tendrils of green sluice off the ground through his staff and then radiating an incredible green energy field into a dome that encompassed both him, Zefer, and the lower half of the impregnable doors. The hail of bullets that flashed out of the charging mob just seemed to glance off the field, but each impact made it stutter and flicker, and Zefer was sure that it would not hold forever.
Given everything up to this point it seems like the green shit is tied to Necromunda's existence in some fundamental way, between the Ratskins (these ratskins at least) having the ability to control/manipulate certian elements of the Hive's technology (like defensive fields) - apparently through this green shit, as well as Zefer's own apparent transformations... exactly WHAT it is we don't know, or why it is this way. Some sort of self repair or maintenance technology perhaps - micromachines or nanowank or something.

Anyhow this is the last quote, and the ending isn't really that great. apparently its all a Delaque plot (which doesn't make alot of sense.) and everyone dies, blah blah... the last 50 pages really change to a grimmer and more 'serious' tone and Zefer turns into some super elite badass.. which really makes you wonder where this fits in with the rest of the book.
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Next Necromunda update. Back from the Dead. First, Back from the dead, which is a small update. It's also by Nick Kyme. The old thread is here for reference. Back from the Dead was the first Nick Kyme novel I wrote, before he did his Sicarius Ultramarines and Salmaanders stuff, but it pretty much carries what he is good at - characters and character interactions. It's basically a Necromunda-style zombie movie, with the zombie hordes rampaging through the underhive, people trying to survive amidst said rampage... etc. But in the middle of that is the story about a disgraced Enforcer trying to 'come back from the dead' so to speak, by saving the life of some ganger girl who wanted his help - his chance at redemption, and I think that was the part that always resonated with me - there's lots of nastiness and horror in the story, but there's still that part of this guy risking all to save someone else that's just well.. heroic and you don't always get that with 40K grimdark.


Page 11
A stomach wound had killed him, something big, high calibre and close. It looked like the blast had tossed him into the wall, away from the exit ahead. Most of his chest was gone, leaving a gaping crimson void in its wake.
We dont know what kind of weapon or how many shots, but its nasty and could be consistent with a heavy stubber.

Page 12
It faced a large holo-pict viewer, a downmarket 2d variant that spat white noise into th room.
holo-pict viewer. Necromundan equivalent of TV/VCR I imagine.

Page 14
A massive tri-frame dominated the space, bolted into the stone slabs. A sturdy pulley system was set at its apex and monstrous plascrete blocks were attacheed via steam-bolted chains. Whoever was capable of lifting it would be capable of crushing a man like he was styrene.
Stimm/chem abuse is not the only way Goliaths build super muscles.

Page 14
Bane saw large metal packing crates containing heavier weapons: rotary cannons, stubb-killers and other high-calibre arms.
Heavy weapons on Necromunda. As we learn later the Goliaths have been hitting Guilder arms shipment, but its fun knowing what they produce and ship.

Page 17
There was a freight elevator on the roof. Formery Glory was ten kilometres away.
ten kilometres.. up? laterally? it tends to suggest that Hive Primus is quite a bit bigger. Given that the surface area in teh opening stuff is hundreds of square km and the height in other novels is 10 miles, it could be either way.

Page 19
The Vapour from the massive precipitators fell like rain...
...
She looked up. but could not see the huge machines. Many levels above, at the lowest point of Hive City, they gathered moisture from the air. Stored in vast wells, it was made chemically safe and farmed out by the HydroX guilders to those with creds to pay for it.
Artificial rain machines. I imagine they collect and recycle moisture from the atmosphere and stuff.

Page 22
It looked like some kind of eatery; fusion-dired cuisine and myste5ry meat were the big sellers.
I'm not sure what fusion-dried means (they mention it a few times) but in a hive we can make a number of guesses about mystery meats.

Page 27
Former glory was miles up and traversing the old Underhive freight channels would take time.
That might put the former quote in context as far as direction of the measurement.

Page 27
Matt-black smocks repelled the worst of it, keeping the fine particles out of their weapons and equipment. Beneath the smocks was a solid mass of carapace armour, shoulder-slung combat shotguns and hip-holstered bolt pistols. Each man was a towering sentinel of honed musculature and violent potential. With their heads encased in combat helmets, ,visors down and respirators active, they were faceless, intimidating, powerful , silver precinct shields gleaming, they were the ultimate custodians of Necromundan law.
Necromundan Enforcers in full gear.

Page 28
Next to him was Dugan, a heavy auto-loading stubber cradled lovingly in his immense grasp. Vincent and Lorimar stood alongside him. both were big men, but they were dwarfed by Dugan. On Bane's ride stood Zan, a weapons specialilst favouring a grenade launcher tonight. Choke gas and lethal rounds filled a belt around his waist.
Support and specialist weapons, a heavy stubber (for covering fire) and grenade launcher (for even more firepower.)

Page 28
He held a pair of high-intensity magnoculars in one hand.

"Thermal imaging confirmed, sir."
They have binocs with infrared, but not in the helmets. Which is interesting considering the neat gear Delaque Gangers pack. You'd think the Enforcers could be just as well equipped.

Page 28
A tiny screen inside Bane's visor crackled to life. An image of a young girl appeared, around sixteen, pretty and obviously Spireborn. She had to be, no way anyone but the ruling elite of Necromunda could requisition enforcers. Backed onto green-screen, the grainy imagew flickered - a result of the dust interfereing with the Precinct House uplink.
Helmets have their own built in pict displays that can recieve (and presumably transmit) data to/from the Precinct. And share that data with the squad. It also has other functions as we see later.

Page 28
"We are tasked with her live extraction," Bane continued without emotion. "Lethal force against the RAzorheads has been sanctioned."
..
an audible click and the voxponder link died. Comm-silence from here on in.
What, you mean its not taken for granted that any hive ganger can be executed if he runs afoul of the Enforcers? SHOCK AND AWE.
Also helmet vox, and comm silence. Apparnetly there's some concern about the Goliaths detecting or hearing it, or something.

Page 29
He held a holo-pict viewer, flat screen, high resolution, displaying a schematic of the building. The location of the gangers was denoted by a red triangular symbol. Two separate channels, divided by a thick plascrete wedge, led to them, perfect assault positions.
Basically a 3d map. again high tech gear. I'd bet its built on sensor data they made from inside.

Page 29
The cargo docking zone was a reinforced plascrete square at least a hundred metres across. Slim gantries ran in a 'U' shape along the side and back walls, forty metres above the docking floor. Dead-bolted trapdoors were inset into the corrugated ceiling another forty metres that, leading up to the roof. Numerous walkways stretched across the gulf of spce between one end of the docking floor and the other, suspended by hefty chains.
The layout of the building.

Page 30
Power-haulers, servo-lifters, and mecahnised arms lay dormant throughout. An exo-loader slumped in one corner. Tracked design, its operators harness was bent and split, both loader arms slack and lifeless. From the torso up it was vageuly humanoid, the tracks below crude and functional.
Industiral machinery on necromunda, which includes serivtor-like devices (But operated by people) although machine enhacnemetn is almost as good (and seome automation is implied.)

page 30
Bane pressed the night vision rune on his helmet's control array and a green spectrum overlaid his visor.
Night vision mode for helmet. Maybe not IR, but almost as good.

Page 30-31
Vaughn nodded and turned to the rest of the men, indicating Zan, Lorimir, Vincent and Keller, who followed him as he moved quickly but cautiously down the right channel in silence.
Bane took the left, the rest of the squad with him.
About fifteen metres down the left channel, the strip lighting gave out with the sound of supptering circuits.
...
Another ten metres and they rounded a sharp bend...
...
Gunfire and shouting echoed distantly ahead, emanating from the right channel.
..
The warehouse exploded with roaring gunfire and muzzle flashes. From the gantries above, silhouettes of the Razorheads poured down hell and hot lead.
Establishes approximate ranges for gunfire, between 50-100 metres both ways (for shotguns as well as whatever the Goliaths are using.) Not much different than when I originally commented.

Page 31
Nabedde was hit twice in the chest; another shot in the leg put him down.

...

Heske took a hit to the chest with one of the loader's hulking pneumatic arms. Ripped off his feet by the impact, ,he was smashed into a junk pile and lay still.

...

Bane drove at the machine, ignoring a stub round as it ricocheted off his carapace shoulder guard...
Examples of the performance of Enforcer Carapace.

Page 31
Dugan withered the suspended walkway overhead with his heavy stubber, severing suspension chains.

Heavy stubber.

Page 34
Through their visors, they could penetrate the gas cloud and find targets.
Visors can penetrate smoke and gas.

Page 35
Alcana was dead, but Alicia lived. A second chance. His redemption.
A big part of this novel is basically driven by the hero, Erik Bane, trying to make up for the botched rescue mission where he kills the child of a noble. The guilt and disgrace leads to his exile and constant drug and alcohol abuse. As we learn later, Alicia (a ganger girl) is someone he associates with Alcana and sees as his chance at redemption (And a metaphroical 'return from the dead' hence the title.)

Page 36
The elevator had stopped abruptly, the winch's power cell exhausted. A deserted service tunnel stretched in front of him. An oil-smeared sign in front of it indicated that Former Glory was three kilometres up. Bane gave a long sigh.
He would have to go the rest of the way on foot.
..
By the time Bane reached Former Glory, his arms and legs burned. The long climb had toughened his muscles, but had not helped his head.
Again it would seem ot suggest 10 km or so is vertal ascent.

Page 38
It still held miner's rations: thin wafer cakes and meat strips. The wafers were dry and the meat tough like leather...

Better than corpse starch, but then again who knows what the meat is and what is in teh wafer cakes.

Page 40
Heavy footsteps came over as a fourth man brought a snarling mastiff over.
Necromunda has dogs.

Page 41
A bottle of grain liquor sat half-empty on the bar.
Necromunda has grain from somewhere.

Page 41
He used to be a brawler. Underhivers paid hard creds to watch him fight in the pits. No augmetics, just brawn and balls.
Implies that amongst the fighting times, augmetics and drug enhancement are fairly common in Necromunda.

Page 42-43
"The big fella's Oheb." said Lyle, jerking a thumb in the direction of the second prospector, a dark-skinned giant, with hands like shovels and skin that shimmered like oil.
..
He looked like the kind of guy who only moved when he had to, but when he did it was fast and with all the force of a piston-driven hammer.
Necromunda seems full of giant guys, doesnt it?

Page 47
The shotgun roared. Lyle ducked to avoid its blast, and a zombie who had made it as far in as his torso exploded. Gore and blood showered them.
Shotgun blows out a zombie torso. Probably says less about the sheer KE/momentum of the blast and more about the kind of ammo.

Page 53
Bane realized they were not wandering about in some random fashion. They were waiting for the others.
...
..the zombie horde came at them, slow and shambling at first. Then it was as if a light had been switched on in their dim and primal consciousness, and they ran.
Necromundan Plague zombies - not like other shamblers.

Page 55
He heard Lyle scream in pain, turning away instinctively as the creature's head exploded.
Shotgun headsplosion.

PAge 68
She had mopped up the blood and stiched the cut, sealing it with adhesive gel.
Medikit for cuts.

Page 68
"Watch houses are the first and only link between Underhive settlements and the Enforcement Precinct houses uphive. If this neurone plague is as bad as I think it is, then they'd issue an alert or there'd be clues, an upturn in cannibalistic crimes. But there's no record, just something about increased raids on Guilder caravans.
Watch Houses. They seem to be what passes for law and order in or around the Underhive or hive city regions. They also seem to be punishment duties and a place of exile for disgraced Enforcers.

Page 71
The vehicle yard lay beyond. One of the shadows was huge, almost as big as Oheb, worked at the fortified door with a long metal spike.
Orlock heavy.

Page 72
The big guy at the back had arms like girders.
..
Thick iron-shod boots covered his feet and a heavy bolter right hat oculd only be his lay on the floor a few feet away. The belt-feed was almost expended.
Orlock Heavy. Heavy bolter, the guy as big as Oheb.

Page 73
Well spoken too, it suggested Hive City education at the very least.
As we learn fro Fleshworks you either get education from the Guilders or the Houses, although this may not apply to the City levels (more formalized education could exist there.)

Page 75
"Input that into the panel. I assume you can read Necromundan-Gothic."
Each planet in the Imperium, I'd guess, has its own written and spoken dialects, but they're all a form of 'Gothic'.

Page 78
The thunderous retort of the shotgun erupted behind him and a zombie in front of him lost an arm and part of its head.

...

Another explosion. Bane felt fire at his cheek and the creature was tossed into the air like a macabre doll. A third felled another zombie, destroying its legs and abdomen.
More shotgunny goodness, head and arm blasted away, and demolished legs.abdomen. again I'd say it speaks mroe to the ammo than raw firepower.

Page 79
Skudd draped two belts of heavy bolter shells over each shoulder like the vestments of some violent priest. Zeke carried a lasgun: two stub pistols were tucked in a weapons belt across his torso. He rammed power packs and clips into a large ammo pouch, throwing Nark two full clips for his autopistol; four more went in with the other spare munitions.
...
A bolt pistol lay on a metal small arms arck. He took it, along with three clips and some spare ammo for the stubber. MacDaur holstered another pistol, a snub-nosed las, and hoisted a shotgun onto his back.
Watch house armoury, or at least what was raided.

Page 79-80
..he took out a combat shotgun, shacking off the broken glass. Short stock, half barrel, complte with a black leather shoulder harness - a quick-loader. It bore the Enforcement insignia. No trigger guard meant quicker reaction time.
...
Bane emptied the shells into one of the pockets. EAch tip was engraved with a tiny skull-Executioner rounds.
Watch Houses and enforcers have access to supposedly 'rare' Executioner shells. Also a compact Enforcer shotgun model.

Page 80-81
It revealed a stocky vehicle, armour plated on all sideswith thick mesh over the forward arc vision slits and three meaty-looking, chain-tread reinforced wheels on either flank. A heavy iron v-shield at its snout gave it its name, a prison transport - the Bull.
...
They had put him in the prisoner bay in the main body of the vehicle.
..
Loose restraints hung above her on a long chain. The back section of the bay was cordoned off by thick bars, a mobile holding cell for particularily recalcitrant law-breakers.
...
..elliptical steering unit, drive lever and three metal foot pedals. Corase leather seats did little to cushion the bare metal of the cab. A diode readout displayed fuel, speed, and engine temp in dull, green neon. It was stark, cold, heavily industrialised and of House Orlock Manufacture.
The Bull, an Orlock built Enforcer vehicle fro hauling prisoners. Seems well designed as an impromptu personnel transport too. (hint hint: for use in PDF and guard units!)

Page 83
The throaty rumble filled the cab and the massive rear exhausts rattled hard against the mtal hull as they belched thikc, acrid smoke into the atmosphere.
Well it runs on chemical fuels, but the question is - where do they get the fuel from? This being the underhive, I kind of doubt they have access to gas stations. Frankly in the hive I'd have expected most vehicles to be electric.

Page 85
He was working the ends of stubber rounds with a small, flat-edged file, turning them into dum-dum bullets that were less reliable, but had more stopping power.
I'm not sure whether this actually works or not in real life, but supposedly in the Necromunda stuff (or confrontation) you could make dum dums for stubbers this way. I gather its supposed to make the bullets tumble or fragment more eaisly, or something.

Page 96
Signs, replete with warnings and industrial rubrics hung down from chains attached to the ceiling.
Wow, they have warnings and signs and shit in an industrial enviroment.

Page 98
"She came to me, to the Watch House, just over three months ago, needing help.."
..
"She wanted protection from an Underhive gang. She wanted out but they didn't want to give her up. Back then I was lost, a drunk and a wretch, just like your father said. In some ways, I still am.
...
"She reminded me of someone I failed to save a long time ago. It gave me hope of a second chance, brought me back but the gang found her again and took her prisoner. I tracked them to their lair and tried to get her out." he said. "she got away, but I was caught."
Events leading up to the beginning of the story with the plague zombies, and why Bane is hunting for Alicia, as well as expanding on what I said earlier about Bane's redemption. His sole, driving force in this book (aside from warning the uphive) is to get Alicia out and to safety.

Page 109
Zeke stumbled back, fired two shots, burning the zombie's arm and neck. MacDaur turned too, blasting it at short-range with an autogun burst. The thing's head exploded in a shower of gore and matter.
Lasguns 'burn' arms and neck. Assuming 3rd degree burns over a 10x10 area, we're talking 3-5 kj per shot. Autogun burst blows apart head, which is a bit more useufl (except we dont know how many shots in a burst either.)

Page 109-110
..an Escher ganger, female...
..
It scuttled towards him with a bloody grin on its lips, baring rotten teeth. A saw-toothed blade, dark and black wwith dried blood, was in her hand. Another, an Orlock, veins black in his forehead, carried a gore-spattered bolt gun.
Plague Zombies can use ranged and melee weapons. Definitely not shamblers.

Page 110
Fire flared in his hands as he let rip with the autopistols. The Escher exploded in a red mist and the Orlock was torn down before he could even raise another twisted limb.
Aformentioned escher and Orlock taken down by high end autopistols. how many shots and how long fired (as well as the kind of ammo) completely unknown.

Page 110
In the distance, a heavy-set Goliath ganger loomed. Clad in thick armour plates, dented and split, he hefted a heavy stubber in one hand, the bulk of the weapon chained to his torso and arm. Trigger finger twitching, the gun exploded in sporadic bursts. It took the head and shoulders off a corpse straying too close to its firing arc. Another was felled where it stood as the bullets shattered both kneecaps.
Goliath zombie firing a heavy stubber one handed (which seems common in these novels) Effects of heavy stubber consistent with Full-power/HMG grade ubllets IIRC.

Page 122
It came from the flamers that many of the Redemptors were toting. Burners at the snout of each weapon, raged with blue flame. The merest spray of liquid and a gout of superheated mixture would strip the very flesh off of the bones of a potential enemy, the fate of the poor bastards who were nothing but blackened bones at Bane's feet.
Flamethrowers. Implies cremation of flesh, but we dont know how much fuel or how long it took so I can't really calc it beyond suggesting it confirms all those cremation calcs we know about already.

Page 127
The Guild rings were encoded. Nano-chips within were better than any key. They granted access to parts of Hive Primus that the majority of the populace would never see.
Guilder rings. I wonder if these are lost tech, or if they manufacture them. If the latter it says something about their miniaturization processes.

Page 127
Another figure, much larger, wearing a half-mesh emerald body glove...
...
The man was wel-built with stimulant enhanced musculature rippling in his neck.
Guilder bodyguard.

Page 131
"My bodyguards and I were visiting a corpseyard, in a lsum town..."
...
"healthy body parts, regardles of whether or not the owner is deceased, attract a high price uphive, particularily in the meidcal sector."
..
"..one that had risen up around them from the very bodies being processed in the corpseyard."
Organ theft. I suppose its better than rendering them down into corpseburgers or something. I'd actually be surprised if underhiver organs were in any condition for nobility to use (or want to use, even.) given the toxic enviroment they can sometimes live in.

page 135-137
"You listen to this madman?" he cried, addressing the throng suddenly, "One that claims to see and hear thoughts and events yet to pass? You harbour a witch."
...
"I am blessed," raged Smite, crushing Bane's hopes instantly with his fervour and zealous charisma. "Given visions by powers from on high, to root out the sinful and purge the damned."
...
"Smite is completely mad," Bane replied, sitting back down on one of the benches, "and I tink he's a wyrd too, some kind of prescient telepath."
I thought the Redemption hunted and killed wyrds." said Mavro
"They do," Bane replied. "I tried to use that against him, but he has a hold over them, possibly some form of mental control. He's seen the plague in some kind of vision and fervently belives he's destined to go on some kind of crusade to crush the unholy, starting with the zombies."
...
"He's looking for someone, said he'd come from the Abyss."
We run into another psyker Redemptionist in Salvation. you have to wonder how much of their 'faith' might be driven by such 'gifted' individuals.

Page 141
..an uphive trans-rail shuttle.
Monorail maybe?

Page 157
Behind its lofty walls, the multitudinous towers of Hive City soared, spikes of metal, rectangles on rectangles and jutting platforms whose winking guide lights were like distant stars. Vast plateaus stretched out between the towers; residential districts, private offices and empty domiciles. A steel monorail line snaked between them. The multiple, conjoined cars flashed like silver as it raced through the blackness...
Hive city. Alot more serene and peaceful than is implied in Salvation (where violent rioting and mass death are a frequent occurance on mild days) There might be different parts or levels to Hive City though. Or maybe Goto messed up a bit. :P

Also monorail.

Page 163
Mackavay clicked a comm-bead attached to the side of his helmet, a personal voxponder.
Another helmet comm bead in an Enforcer helmet.

PAge 164
..Bane heard the whirr of an automated pintle-mount. The riot-stubber, training behind them on the co-ordinates Mackavay had provided.
...
..the heavy stubber would shred him, Alicia, and all of them witout mercy.
The Enforcers make use of automated defense guns as part of their watch posts,a nd can control them by voice command and target designation.

Page 165
..he paused to check something in his helmet pict.
...
The enforcer looked at it and thought for a moment, the counter in his helmet pict-display ticked ominously downward.
Again built in internal pict display in enforcer helmets, and they're multi-function.

Page 169
[quopte]Next to the couch was an ancient looking caffeine-vending unit. It dispensed one choice of beverage - foul tasting, extra-strength caffeine in reconstituted paper cones.[/quote]
Vending machines! Crappy vending machines but still...

Page 175
At the end of the corridor, bypassing the entrance port which the survivors had entered by from the outside, was a small hexegonal antechamber. Shimmering blue energy crackled at the doorway - a force shield. The proctor hammered an access code on a panel next to it. The shimmering energy diminished into nothing.
Elevators (at least) in the Enforcer Precinct house are force shielded.

Page 175
In numerous offices, enforcers filed reports, checked crime statistics and planned patrols. Training rooms were filled with cadets learning unarmed combat techniques tutored by veterans. On a gun range, bolt pistols and combat shotguns barked and roared and plastek targets daubed with simplistic black icons of menacing lawbreakers exploded in cruous, violent harmony. One window provided a view out into the vehicle depot yard where transports waited, tech-adepts toiling beneath engines, stripping and reassembling weapon arrays.
Enforcers at work. Sounds rathr more coppish than other sources suggest :P

Page 177
..keller was the last one to fall. It happened when they made their escape. A Lucky shot struck a fuel cell, cuasing it to explode. Keller's insides were vaporised in the blast swell and he had died instantly.
fuel cells of some kind. Maybe thats what they run vehicles on?

Page 187
Kepke had a micro-bead attached via minute-pins into his ears, easily overlooked. He was muttering something. The micro-bead was dual feed - transmitting and receiving.
A micro bead again with a dual feed. That implies some micro beads may only be one way.

Page 191
The enforcer was dead. A hole in his chest hd opened up his armour. Massive blast burns scorched away the black lacquer of the carapace, revealing the cold metal beneath.
Effect of bolt pistol round from Enforcer bolt pistol.

Page 195
Mackavay dragged his stool over to a bio-scanner and flicked it on. It powered up with a dull hum. A few seconds and a circular screen lit up in washed-out green. It was delineated into three-metre blocks, stretching out a hundred metres from the station. A darker green line pulsed out from a centrla point, surging out in a semi-circular wave. The scanner was devised to register any heat signatures.
Bio sensor of some kind.

Page 196
The medicae took a small card from his pocket, metal and rectangular - micro wiring and circuit boards made it look like some kind of tech - and pressed it into the panel.
Keycard.

Page 198-199
Bane closed the door and shot out the access panel. The brass casing hit the ground amidst a shower of sparks and seared metal.
..
..cranking a fresh round into the bolt pistol's breach.
Bolt pistols with casings.

Page 203
The other corpse had a hole in its chest and two sets of blood spatter on its face. It was a close-range shot. The wound had cauterised, skin burned black at the edges. He had been thrown back by the impact; there were drag marks where his heeles had caught on the floor.
Bolt pistol blows a huge hole in an Enforcer again. It cauterises which I noted before and attributed to the effect of the pistol, but it probably was more from the hot gas/propellant of the gun rather than the explosive element. Like the casing, it suggests the bolt pistol fires more conventional ammo rather than just rocket propelled ammo (although having both is needlessly complex.)

Page 211
The second took one in the neck and another in the head - its cranium exploded with the impact.
Bolt pistol again.

Page 211
Goliath tats were prominent on its decaying arms and chest. Its size came from stimm-enhancement,
Goliaths using chem to enhance strength again. Whats more it reacts with the plague virus to make him evne more insanely super muscular (except his head).

Page 211-212
Mesier managed to wrap ihs finger aorund the trigger of the bolt pistol. It was buried somewhere in the creature's drug-fuelled bulk. He pulled the trigger, five, six times.
...
Archimedes watched, huddled next to the opposite buttress, as the zombie's back exploded outward in a mass of flying bone and gore.
...
..Meiser jammed the pistol into the zombie's snarling mouth. He fired three times.
...
The freak was down, most of its head missing - rotting graffitti on the tunnel wall.
Taking down super zombie goliath with bolt pistol again.

Page 231
Gant was strapping on the Heavy Stubber rig.
Single man using a heavy stubber, apparently in some sort of firing rig (recoil compensation and weight support?)

Page 232
Renkner went down on one knee and blasted it with his combat shotgun. The creature's head exploded.
Shotgun zombie headsplosion.

Page 243
"That door is plas-steel. how can they get in?"
...
"It's not that tough," Bane replied. "With enough repeated force, it'll give. Remember, tehre are hive gangers amongst the horde, some of whom have augmetics, others are stimmed up to hell and back. Enough fists that feel no pain hit that door and it will give."
Again enhanced capability from augmetics or drugs is implied rather common amongst gangers. So much so that if they feel no pain or care about injury they can batter down a strong door.

Page 247
..as he sped past in the limousine speeder.
Antigrav vehicle perhaps? Possibly magnetic, given the mag lines inside the hive as per 'Survival Instinct'

Page 247
A vox was playing inside the transport. It was a news editct, pumped into the many Hive City factorums and in domiciles throughout the higher echelons of Necromundan society.
Radio broadcast, basically.
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Re: (new) Necromunda novels thread

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Well I'll start my weekly update process. I think this week I'll try taking it one or at most two sources a day, and see how it goes.
So to start up we'll do Necromunda, which means Junktion. The old thread can be found here. I found that my second read thorugh of Junktion was not only enjoyable, but I actually paid attention to more than just the shooty/explodey bits than I did last time. Much like with Back from the Dead, the story actually had greater value, so I can like this for the story/theme (which gets discussed some) and the techy bits (which naturally gets re-discussed, only I focus on more than just the shooty/explodey bits.)

Junktion is a bit of a 'day in the life' type of story, and it shows just how thin the veneer of civilization is in the underhive, even when you're close close up to the top. It also shows just how much at the mercy the underhivers are ot those above them (especially the wealthy - spyrers and such) and just how important the vital machinery of the hive are to the underhivers (well hell, everyone's) continued existence. And it centers around two very important human commoditites, light and water, and their importance even in the underhive, and what it possession (or absence) of it can mean and do for others. Unlike the previous stories, this one has not particular 'theme' to it, other than maybe being yet another glimpse into the way life is lived in the Underhive.

Our hero is one Sinden Kass (foreever more after known as 'Kass' to me in the discussion), a lamplighter whose job will be explained in the story. He's vital to Junktion, and much of the story is about him trying to sort out his own responsibilities, to himself and others (rather, running from them for much of the book.) We see the story through his perspective as he watches people he lives among become violent and desperate and turn on him and others like him as that desperation sets in. The whole story is pretty much a progression of things getting worse and worse, and Kass trying ot pretend its not his business, until everything reaches a breaking point.

Story is in two parts both updated at once like I usually do.

Part 1

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page 8
And of course the real problem was just that the cowling over the cable-join was loose and the juicewire had grown a coat of green rust-rot. If I'd known that at the start I could have spliced it in ten minutes and be back on the winch-carriage...
This is mostly to show one of the duties of lamplighters. They seem to be dedicated to the maintenance and operation of all the lighting in and around Junktion, which includes maintenance duties of various types (replacing components and such.) While its unlikely there was anything like a formal education they probably have to have some understanding of
Page 8-9
They wore scrolled and polished carapace armour and full helmets that covered their heads and shoulders. Beautiful bronze-coloured armour, the colour of aged sipping-liquor. Their faces bulged with darkvisors and machine-sights. There were grenades and limpet-meltas pouched at their hips and fat-barrelled fast-fire hellguns slung at their backs.
Hive City militia forces Despite 'militia' we learn they're actually probably closer to elite troops later, which makes sense with the stormtrooper-like equippage. Still, the presence of such troops in the Necromundan PDF is damn impressive, even if they are just 'rich guy' military forces (private or noble military forces can be conscripted just like all the rest if the Imperium wants.
Basically what happens at this point is the uphive forces make a 'punishment strike' on downhive for silly reasons and troops are deployed to punish the underhivers for being inconvenient to the Hive City folk. The troops basically massacre the Junkition leadership (their guards) devastate a fair bit of the town and anyone who gets in their way, and destroy the only means of supplying water for the town (and much of the region.) This leads to a number of problems - emigration of desperate people seeking water (employement, etc) from outside in the Hive, changes in trade, gang troubles, tension in the city verging on revolution, lots of violence and desperation, etc. It's a complex sort of situation arising from a relatively simple, single action pertaining to (what is for the Hive) a vital resource.

Page 14-15
There are fixtures around Junktion that we lamplighters know how to repair, but those upper-circuit roadpipe tiles with their bright white glow are definitely not an example. But the framing was hanging loose and the reflector slats were badly gunked and that I could do something about. I got the housing back into position with only a little cursing, and the grime and crap came off the slats easily enough.
...
The rubber coating had been stripped off the juice feeds by decay or some gnaw-happy local wildlife specimen, and I had enough replacement stuff in my pack. Some peddler Thamm knows brings it up from deeper downhive. I have no idea where they harvest it from, but if you melt the salvaged stuff a little you can knead it into place easily enough.
More lamplighter duties and roles. Again it's hard to argue these people are completely ignorant or 'rote knowledge' people - this is knowledge they would have to acquire by sheer necessity. They may not have comprehensive knowledge or understanding (that they can't manufacture the materials themselves, or replacement parts and may not know how to repair some sorts of lightiing) but they clearly know something and its not the sort of 'knowledge' your typical Guardsmen would have for maintaining his weapon.

Page 19-21
Anyway, that's Junktion's real jackpot, right there. You've come up from the deep Underhive, up from Glory Hole or Blackenred, up from where most people have never seen light that came from a power lantern rather than a burning wick, or a gun that fired las-shots instead of slugs or scattershot.
...
Junktion is where a lot of trails meet.
...
Spend weeks more in the roadpipes, risking wildlife, scavvies, bandits, quakes, gunk-floods? Or are you going to stay in Junktion, eat a nice late breakfast, and then roll yourself out to the liftport? Buy your winch chit from the town fathers and hand it off to the hauler crews, then you watch as your goods get hoisted up to be at the stockade up there by the next lightson?
Don't listen to the grumbling you hear about Junktion prices, about how the only difference between the Junktion town fathers and a bandit gang is how the bandits don't bill you for wear and tear on the gun they hold to your head. For every pannier that gets hauled up the Well you can bet there are five caravan bosses cursing the lucky bastard whose cargo it is and jockeying for the next chit, and ten more setting off through the roadpipes and wishing like hell they could afford a winch passage at all.
So, Junktion the trade-town, the boom-town. Once there's money flowing through a town in the Underhive, well, people with money need guns and ammo and people to use them on their behalf, and they want booze and smokes, and the people who provide them with those need food and juice and parts and entertainment of their own. And there are plenty of things that nobody would ever think they needed at all except that places like Junktion fill up with folks who'll provide them anyway. Soothsayers, kootchie-girls, or amiable gentlemen who get mysteriously luckier with the cards once their opponent has a few shots of Second Best inside them (and turn out to have some burly, bad-tempered friends in the event someone gets pushy about it).
So the place has a reputation in this corner of the Underhive. It's in Junktion, people have said around here for more than seventy years, and in the Underhive that can be nearly three lifetimes.
Junktion represents one of those 'close to Hive City' regions - the upper levels of the underhive seem to be alot more civilised and better to live in than the downhive. Technology scales too - lasweapons seem to be more common the higher up you are (and this seems ot suggest lasweapons are better/more desirable than stuff you find in lower levels, although design and engineering matter here too.) It really reflects that even in the 'Underhives' you can have extreme variations in standards of living, experiences, etc. and it is not a wholly lawless, chaotic place.
I've always actually though of the Underhive being sort of more a 'wild west' type frontier, and some of the themes there seem to reflect that (holesteaders, fortress towns, ratskins and caravans and such.) Sort of a space western, except you have different sorts of gangs. And monsters. And generally motorcycles instead of horses.

Page 24
To anything at all. You have to learn to let it go and walk away. So I kept my head down and walked away, and then the gate clanged shut behind us and I didn't have to think about it any more.
The irony of this is that Kass is shortly put into a position where people view him as an enemy (because they have no other focus for their fear and anger and they lash out - being humans) and the polarization in Junktion created by the rationing between those who run and maintain the city, and those living in the city. As we see the tensions that rise up from the raid lead to increasingly worse circumstances (and decisions leading to more problems.)

PAge 27
Their weapons, their kit, their numbers. Hive City soldiers, bought and trained and armed with Spire money. This hadn't been a turf skirmish or smash-and-grab like the badzone gangs or tinpot little holestead confederacies like to stage. It had been a punishment raid. Trade tariffs too high or a town father had impounded the wrong crate of booze for his personal stash or someone had been rude to a Guilder with connections or some spitting thing. They had been sent down to kick us apart like a boy kicking a scrapebeetle nest after he's been stung. You hear of it happening sometimes, when an Underhive place within hitting distance of Hive City gets too big for itself. There's not usually much anyone can do.
But now we were supposed to believe that the cream of the Hive City's army....
More on the Militia strike. Again they seem to be fairly elite, high tier soldiers rather than grunts, so the gear being funded by Spire money fits with that. What's more, this seems to be common enough that they accept it as a way of life closer to the 'surface'. Which is yet another way the upper levels dump on the lower (sometimes literally) between the waste and sewage, spyrers, and now this. Still, the implication there are other, less well equipped troops.
The fact guilders can get it done also suggests it is more a middle/upper hive security thing, like the Enforcers (who are similarily pretty high tech.) It also reflects a certain awareness at the upper echelons about what goes on down below - some communication exists.

Page 31
Then they had gone to work on the big shutter-doors and that was when things got really scary, Thamm told me later, because the stuff they had to do that was good. Not the gas-drills and sputtering red-glowing melta grenades you get with gangs who go in for hardware damage, but stuff most Underhivers won't see but once or twice in a lifetime. Long-necked cutting torches the same gleaming bronze as their carapace armour and white-hot meltas that brought the gates down in the time that their gang-made cousins would have taken to warm up. Even now the doors still hung in a creepy derelict lean.
I'd been friends with half a dozen of the bunkerhouse gunboys, and I'd been to wakes for five of them. If I tilted my head forward a little the brim of my hat hid most of the wall and I didn't have to look at the shot-marks any more.
More on the raid and the uphive soldier's equipment vs lower levels (melta grenades are 'low tech')
Also note that Kass makes a habit of trying to ignore the things going on around him. Poor guy has issues, and that's pretty key to this story (or at least to his part in it.)

Page 37
The arclamp gantries over Junktion's nerve centres were all fed from a little rockcrete burrow near the bunkerhouse where Yonni spent his time, looking after a snakes' nest of heavy juice cables that led out to powertaps all around the town. Those we could kill all at once, but the alleys and roads in the other districts had to be snuffed out by hand. Most big settlements do this, or something like it. People just seem to do better when you snuff the lights right down every ten hours or so, just another one of those Underhive things.
Again the Lamplighters seem to have some fairly sophisticated knowledge about repairing and maintaining their chosen specialization, and the Junktion people make an effort at keeping something resembling a day/night cycle.

PAge 40-41
The man I'd hit with my pack missed me by a hand's breath with a tight burst of shots, and before he could get his bearings I had time to pump the trigger four times.
..
I could smell the crisping of his clothes and flesh over the rotten smell of the canal as I dropped to one knee and took a bead on the third man...
...
By the time he realised the mistake I'd shot him twice.
Kass gets ambushed. 6 lashots fired, and the lasweapons (seemingly) can burn/ignite clothing.

Page 45
There was a sore on the back of his neck, and his greasy brown hair had matted into the discharge from it. Every Underhiver should know about looking after cysts and rashes and sores, there are enough damn things that'll give them to you. Was it petty to let a kid get to me like that who didn't even know to clean out a sore?
To some Hivers (like Kass) health and medical care seem to be priorities, which makes sense given the enviroment. Kass's attitude would make it seem to be fairly routine behaviour this far up in the Underhive, at least.

Page 45
He peered under the counter into the armoured drawers where he kept the autogun ammo.
...
...I suddenly realised I had no idea if there would even be the right ammo there to buy. Carrying lasweapons for too long makes you careless about things like that. Then he grunted and straightened up with two boxes in his hands.
One of the big drawbacks of projectile vs lasweapons is the ammo compatibility. While we know incompatibilities with power packs, this is far less of an issue than with ammo (with its differing calibres, loads, etc.) The ease of recharge, multiple uses of a powerpack, and (if present) variable charge settings play to the 'versatility' advantage of the lasgun. And in the Underhive, the advantages in recharge would give lasweapons a significant edge over projectile weapons.


Page 47
"Word is that not all of the trader caravans are so keen to come around here now."
..
"The raid indeed."
...
"Word of the troubles. People are wondering if we're worth the risk."
...
"There's a smith down Shining Falls way who swears he can make an Escher knock-off that your piece won't tell from the real thing, but load yourself with real uphive ammo for as long as you can."
Uphive 'activity' can influence the trading patterns downhive (important rule: don't get noticed) and given the situation in the underhive, trade is fairly important to survival. Despite that, downhivers are ever-adaptable and find workarounds to most problems if they can.


PAge 47
"Leave the pistol with me, Kass. I can at least juice that for you on the house."
...
..I slid the long-barrel far enough up my leg to pop the cell. I handed it over to Tovick and he muttered an artisan's lucky charm as he clicked it into a juicing sheath.
Power again seems to be one of the things that is plentiful in the underhive, at least in Junktion. Another big advantage for lasweapons, obviously.
Also the gunshop owner seems to make some nod towards the AdMech 'Machine spirit' thing, although rather obvious in a rote manner (that or Kass doesn't understand the significance, which displays the ignorance of the Underhive to concepts the Imperium at large takes for granted.)

Page 48-49
It was a hybrid piece I'd saved up and paid well for back when I rode with the caravans on the big trader trails. The stock and frame were House Delaque build. Delaques are keener sneaks and spies than warriors, and their kit is perfect for someone like me. It's compact, smooth to handle, made to be quick and easy to stow and keep out of the way when you have to move fast and quiet, or to get up a girder or down a chute.
...
You don't hear those sighing Delaque accents much and you get Delaque ammo even less. The Houses keep their people separate - it's why their looks are as distinctive as their dress and talk - and they keep their kit separate too.
...
So it didn't take me long after I got to Junktion to work out that my piece needed a little reworking. Venz called in a favour from a smith at a Guilder bunker halfway up the trail to Scrubtangle, and the work was worth the tedious roundtrip up the alley-road. He fitted a new action and barrel from a gawky long-stocked piece he said had come from a House Escher caravan guard, then cut the barrel and tinkered with the action to fit them into the Delaque frame so that when I first hefted it I could barely tell the difference. It had kept its easy Delaque handling but fired the way Escher pieces do, quick and clean, with recoil but none of the jagged muzzle-climb that you can always pick the Goliath or Cawdor guns by, eating up Escher-make ammo smooth as you please.
The only sign of its mixed parentage was the colouring Tovick had nicknamed it for: flat gleamless Delaque black from the old weapon, a bright powdery silver from the Escher breech and barrel.
The two-tone, Kasses autogun and an example of the aforementioned 'Underhiver ingenuity' and some of the performance characteristics of Necromundan firearms. Clearly Delaque, Escher and (obviously) Van Saar guns are better htan Goliath and Cawdor. I imagine Orlock are better too.
Also a further complication with 'solid shot vs las' - house specific modesl (and equipment in general) tends to be distincitve and restricted, which can complicate resupply (and probably, maintenance and repairs.)

Page 49-50
It felt fine and shot better. People who say you're either a las or a slug shooter, that you can get the hang of one or the other, are squeaking with it. Ignore them. I had remembered the kick as stronger, so overcompensation sent the first burst way off, but the right reflexes bobbed up after that and the two-tone burred off quick, tight bursts that walked up the strips of plas-sheet as the weapon rode my shoulder. By the time I was halfway through the magazine I was hitting comfortably inside the targets and by the time it clicked dry I had punched through the painted bullseye. I work with tools, I have mechanist's hands. I don't think I could ever use one of the damn great cannons that the Goliath gangs carry, but give me a precision instrument like the two-tone and I'll use it like one. I came out of the range hefting the empty gun, smelling of cordite and feeling much happier.
Slug vs las. This tends to suggest lasweapons might have some recoil, or it may suggest many slug weapons (in the Underhive at least) are low recoil, which seems rather odd.

Page 50
..lounging against a crate full of reconditioned las-barrels.
Las barrels apparently aren't totally disposable, at least by the standards of equipment in the Underhive, where recycling will be important.

Page 50
"Twenty minutes for that las-cell to get properly juiced, Kass."
Twenty minutes or so to recharge. I say 'or so' because he popped the charge in before going in to shoot off a clip on the firing range to get used to the two tone. I doubt that takes very long (minutes perhaps) but it still is worth noticing. On the other hand, its possible the twenty minutes was the total time.
Another question is whether or not the power pack is empty, or what charge (if any) it held. Given the dangers of the Underhive, it seems reasonable that someone like Kass would head out with a fully charged pack between jobs, and I would assume he had one when he got ambushed. Meaning that it had fired six shots out of howver many it holds normally (which is another point. I'd assume between 20, 30 based off Inquisitor/FFG or up to 80 if we go with the Munitorum manual)
So now.. the question is.. how is this used? There are several ways. WE could use power pack capacity (or output per shot) to figure out one or the other. We could use power pack capacity to estimate charge rate.
One way to estimate power pack capacity is by assuming its a liquid metal battery and doing the sodium-sulfur analogy, or by estimating it from volume. We dont know the actual size of the battery from the text, but the pack is either in the handle (as per other novels, like CArdinal Crimson) or its in the part in front of the trigger. I'm betting in the latter bit. If in the handle its probably 150-200 grams, (about the size of a pistol mag) If its the bit in front of the guard.. 300-400 grams. So by the first estimate for sodium-sulfur we get between 80-108 kj and 162-216 kj for the respective clip masses. If we go by volume, its again 80-100 kj roughly (1-1.25 kj per cubic cm) for the latter, and 120-225 kj or so roughly.
If we assume 80 kj and all shots were fired (20-30) we get between 2.7 and 4 kj per shot. If we go up to 225 kj we get between 7.5 and 11 KJ per shot. If only 6 shots were fired.. between 13 and 38 kj per shot. Recharge rate (assuming an empty pack) and assume between 20-30 minutes you get between 44-66 watt at 80 kj, and 125-188 watts for 225 kj. If 20 minutes to recharge 6 shots.
another interesting comparison with the recharge rate is that in the FFG material we're told lasweapon powerpacks require at least several hours to charge (which one assumes applies to pistol and rifles), which is at least 4-9x longer than the 20-30 minute timeframe estimated here. Which would imply that the 'FFG' powerpacks (military issue) carry more raw power. (Conservatively that would be for a military lasrifle, although it could also be applied to laspistol meaning a lasrifle has even more power - at least 2-3x more by FFG estimates.) AT least 300-500 kj for 44 watt recharge to 1.3-2 MJ for 188 watts.
The other way to do it is to go off one of the calcs later on and estimate yields.
(the laspack on the cover is half-trapezodial, with an estimated 'top' lenght of 8-10 cm, and a 'short' side of 4-5 cm, a height of 7-8 cm, and a thickness around 3 cm or so.)

Page 51
I'd been putting off going back to the bunkerhouse, and up until now there had been plenty of excuses. A grim conference with the town watch about the attacks, a visit to the incinerators at the head of the Chamberpit track to watch the three men I'd killed being rendered down to ash to fertilise the Peelgut farms.
Interesting for the farms, but also they seem to have tons of aailable fuel or energy, depending on how the incinerator goes. Of course, recycling the bodies is important for other reasons (disease, water reclamation if they have the tech, space, etc.)

Page 51-52
Lamplighter spies get what they deserve. Lamplighter spies.
Someone out there had declared war on us. Someone knew about what we'd been asked, sump-ghosts knew how. And someone had hit out at us.

At us, or at the town fathers? Water was for all, not just the rich. Was that what this was about? I thought of Nardo hiding his water flask as we walked back from our rounds. But everyone knew about the lamplighters' water rations, didn't they? I couldn't remember hearing about any resentment. We were the lamplighters, everyone in Junktion knew about what we did. How had it come to this?
...
Suddenly nobody was around - Junktion was a city of strangers. No Nardo to drink with or Yonni to talk with. A sour-faced little flunky in a fringed vest of rat-leather shoved an order sheet into my hand and barked at me that there hadn't stopped being work to do when I tried to ask him some questions.
This was wrong, this was all wrong.
..
Two fellow lamplighters, my friends, were lying in the sawbones' rooms behind the Red Pile leaking into their bandages. Two more were dead and waiting in line for the firepit.
Kass contemplates the deteriorating situation. This novel is really good at highlighting the whole contrast between 'civiliszation and chaos' that exists in the underhive. something simple that we take for granted - water - can be all that keeps the Underhivers from each other's throats. Reading this novel made me wonder how it might work in real life - what if it was oil, for example?
Kass is also trying his hardest to live up to that 'cold uncaring Underhiver' attitude, where everyone looks out for themselves, but the conflict at having to lose all these friends and loved ones makes that hard for him. It's interesting to speculate how widespread his attitude it is - its a much more interesting view of Underhivers than the 'rar only war and killing' gangers attitude we usually get.

Page 54
"The runt was full of the news. He said everyone knew you lot were going to start being the fathers' eyes and ears if you weren't already" He shrugged under my stare. "Don't suppose it was so hard to believe. You're all over the place, all the time, and there's not a lot of love for the fathers since the water rations got tightened. They're charging more for what they do give out, too. I know you don't-" he caught himself, "I know it doesn't affect you quite so much, but it's happening. There's less to go around all the time and nobody knows where the replacements are coming from." I thought back on what Yonni had told me and clamped my teeth down on the inside of my cheek.
"Someone in the bunkerhouse said that the water-tithes they're collecting to let people in the gates are going straight to the fathers' private stashes, not to anywhere the rest of us are going to be able to buy it for any amount of money, and I hear tell some of the fathers have been bringing gangers through the gates these last couple of lightsons. "
...
"I just do my job. Is all." It was the best I could manage, and it left a rotten taste in my mouth. But what else could I tell him?
From the way Tovick grunted and walked back to Drengoff I knew I'd blown something, missed some kind of chance.
More of the ill feeling and resentment resulting from the water rationing. And a bit of a turning point in Kass's attitude. His purported detachment is beginning to crack now that his world has been thrown into upheaval.

Page 57
If anything he was half a head shorter than little-man me, but House Goliath measures a man by brawn, and although my hands have long fingers I doubt I could have made them meet around his upper arms. Or his neck. He grinned at me. About a third of his teeth were missing, the gums scarred. I guessed that at some point he'd had a half-arsed try at putting metal teeth in and botched it. Very few of the Underhive docs know the trick of that, but plenty of people still try.
Another one of those 'not gigantic' goliaths, albeit one still incredibly strong and heavily muscled. We saw similar in Fleshworks.
Another point to note is the 'metal teeth' thing. I should note that the Gangers are starting to make their appearance and moving in due to the dire emergency situation, which to Kass is an indicator of just how crazy the whole situation is.
Page 58
The joiner box that spread the juice out among the lamps had been kicked in against the wall by someone who'd wanted a clearer footing, and now one side had popped its seals and was letting the juice spark and choke. I scowled at the Steelheads' metal-banded boots clanking up and down the catwalk and decided it was a blind miracle that the juice hadn't hit the metal already and cooked the whole lot of them. A lamplighter sees that kind of thing happen every so often.
Yet another indicator about lamplighter duties and knowledge.

PAge 59
All I want is to do my job, I kept telling them in a voice so low I could barely hear it myself. That's all. I had no clout with the gate guards and the water-tithe wasn't my idea. Even in Junktion it was running out, why didn't they try their luck up or down-Hive where there might be more? It wasn't my problem.
...
I can't do anything. I can't give you what you want. It's not my problem. It's not my job.
Kass runs across some poor miner who wanted directions to Junktion again, only this time the miner recognizes him and begs for Kass's help. There's huge numbers of people outside the city, clamouring to get in believing that they'll find salvation inside the city. (which is ironic because the city is itself in trouble as a result of the situation.) Again simple loss of water leads to things deterioriating rapidly, which is rapidly building to a climax.

Page 62
Work, that was what I needed, good back-bending mind-clearing work to get it all out of my mind. All this trouble had proved my point. In the Underhive it doesn't pay to get attached to people. You need to be able to just turn and walk away. Walk away from the water-rioters. Or the bodies of the other lamplighters. Or the town where you'll never see your mother and sister again, or the holestead where your father is...
I shook my head to clear it. This was what happened when you let things get to you. I stared ahead instead.
Kass clearly has some issues.

PAge 62
Junktion had cleaned its badlands out. It was famous for it. Hell, I was part of that fame myself. Nobody knew any other town that had ever hired people like me to get the old Hive lighting grids running again, although plenty of places were trying to copy us now. Bright light so the vermin couldn't hide and the bandits couldn't lurk. Junktion and its lamplighters.
Junktion's reputation. Again it shows that its quite possible to have osmething resembling stability even in the Underhive. Of course, that only lasts as long as necessities can be met, as this case shows.
Page 66
Someone, probably Thamm, had got too extravagant with the lights near the bridge over the Dredge Canal, and there just wasn't enough juice off the existing powertap to run them all. The existing tap was more or less sound despite some bodged connections (definitely Thamm, I couldn't touch her on fine component work but her cabling was atrocious), but it needed a backup.
More on a lamplighter's duties and activities, which includes running taps from a main power line to where the lamplighters want it.
Page 68
Someone, probably Thamm, had got too extravagant with the lights near the bridge over the Dredge Canal, and there just wasn't enough juice off the existing powertap to run them all. The existing tap was more or less sound despite some bodged connections (definitely Thamm, I couldn't touch her on fine component work but her cabling was atrocious), but it needed a backup.
Approximate indication of the area of the small room Kass is in. At least big enough for him to stand upright in, and perhaps a metre or two wide and at least a couple metres long.
Page 69
The rat, long as my forearm, thicker than my thigh, was already coming at me and my burst killed the one behind it.
Size of the Underhive Rats after Kass. That suggests its at least maybe a good 30-50 cm long and maybe 15-20 cm in diameter. About the size of a housecat (although that isn't precise either) They do get a bit larger (EG Blood royal, a metre long rat)

Page 70
I ducked my head through the sling of the two-tone and let it hang as the rats seethed and shifted on their feet. Most were big as a human baby, naked tails longer than my arm. The one nearest had nests of sharp quills framing its head. The next had hooked bone thorns growing out of a row of sores down its spine. At least two had extra pairs of legs and ran low to the ground like spiders.
'big as a human baby' would again fit with the cat sized and aforementioned size I estimated earlier. Figure that we're talking fist-sized heads (or thereabouts)

Page 70
My head banged against a shaft and I yelped, ducked, danced forward and away from anything that was standing on the metal and level with my face.
The shafts are head height, which means the pocket enclosure KAss occupies is at least a good 3-4 m tall.
Page 70
Zakzakzak and my pistol scorched the air in front of me, took the life out of two rats.
...
I crouched for a terrifying moment, shed my tool pack then jumped, kicked out and hung there, wedged by feet and shoulders between the filthy walls.
Kass has fired 3 shots at this point, and Kass jumping to get out of range. His back to one wall and his feet on the other. Again about a metre or two wide, probably.

Page 71
It swung there for a moment and nearly dragged me down before I managed a convulsive jerk that let me twist and shoot into its belly. Its dead jaws sagged open and it fell back into the mass. Another rat leapt for my outstretched pistol arm and I pulled it back with an effort. I was sweating: body heat and the las-shots had upped the temperature in this little cavity of hell. My nose was full of the stink of vermin breath and las-scorched rat-hair.
Another shot. 4 shots so far and the temperature of the enclosure has heated noticably, although a combination of body heat plus the lasfire attributes this.
The enclosure is at least 1-2 m across, probably a good 3 m wide and 3 m tall. call it 6-9 cubic metres. Assuming dry air at around 20C STP (293K) we're talking 1.2 kg per cubic metre and 1 kj per kg*K here. According to here human swill begin to sweat at 37C, although I'll use 30C as a countervailing argument (corresponds roughly to 90-100F temps) which in kelvin is between 303-310K. So we're talking 10-17 degree temp increase (10-17 kj per kg) for 7.2-11 kg of air at least. Which is between 72 and 187 kj injected into the enviroment (approximately.)
'typical' human power output is around 100-120 watts, although short term 'burst' outputs could be 300-400 watts for high performance activity. Given a horde of rats Kass can't be dicking around much, so we're probably talking seconds or minutes to get up to this point. Assuming 5 minutes (300 seconds) at 200-300 watt average power we're talking 60-90 kj.
Separating Kass estimated body heat leads to at least 12 kj (I'm going to ignore 90 kj for the lower end for obvious reasons, since you can't have a lasbolt with 'negative' joules) to 97-127 kj for the las shots. That leads to between 3 kj and 24-32 kj per shot. This translates into energy heating up the atmosphere, as well as energy inefficiencies in the lasbeam striking the target. The one iffy bit is.. are the rats contributing? A horde of rats in the enclosure (dozens) is bound to as well but I dont know what to estimate, so treat it as an 'order of magnitude' calc.
Page 71
I shuffled a foot sideways, another, wedged my elbows and worked my arms and my shoulders. Rockcrete grated me through my coat.
Again an indication of the dimensions of Kass's enclosure.

Page 71
I gritted my teeth, reached over and shot the head off a two-foot-long rat that had reared up on top of my pack with one of the straps snagged in its forelegs. It had had a tongue longer than my finger and tipped with a sucker.
Kass 'blasts' the head off a rat. Again assuming a roughly fist sized head we're talking maybe 15-20 kj at least, maybe twice that.
Also, another shot.

Page 71
I fired a random shot downward. Another scream.

Yet another shot. That's six so far.

PAge 72-73
There was another duct above me, but it was too high to reach for and most of it hung in a rusted slump. I could dimly see one beyond and below me, but I'd have to stand and leap to it and there wasn't (another shearing grate from the metal underneath me) time.
The view above and below Kass.
Page 74-75
Smart or no, it took seconds to work out that its teeth weren't biting through to my toes - when did I say the Goliaths were the only ones around with metal-shod boots? - and that was enough for me to load the two-tone and take away everything between its ears and its shoulders with one careful round.
I flapped for balance for a moment before I caught myself, crouched and drew my las. The two-tone's recoil was light, but enough to cause problems on the curving metal that I didn't need. The next rat landed, scrabbled, snarled and lost its face to a las-round. So did the next, and the one after that took a kick.
Another 'lasweapon vs autoweapon' tradeoff thing, pertaining to recoil. Laspistols have far less recoil even thn light laspistol. Note as well that Kass's laspistol is apparently doing as much damage as his modified autogun. That suggests laspistol is at least single digit kj easily.
Plus, 2 more lasrounds, apparently blowing 'face' if not head off. Assuming 10x10 cm and 400 j per sq cm 'flaying' rounds we're talking 40 kj or so. Call it double diigt kj.
Page 75
I booted the twitching body off the duct and shot the next, a mangy brown with vestigial eyes in its shoulders that stared blindly up at me.
..
The next rat came down at the same angle and hit my stomach, and the terror of it biting at my innards saw me pump half a dozen las-shots into it. It spasmed and fell smoking as I toppled off the duct, landing on my back, my arms dragging down the walls when I tried to throw them out.
six plus one more shots. fifteen now.

Page 75-76
The sickly-grey thing on the end of my arm growled and worried at my coat-cuff, trying to unsnag its teeth from the cloth, and then the rest were abandoning the tool pack and rushing me, the last few dropping down out of the wall and bouncing to their feet with their eyes already fixed on my throat. I was yelling, trying to regain my feet, firing the pistol wildly, holding them back with sheer volume as the floor-litter in front of their noses began to smoulder and catch from the shots. The rat on my cuff yowled and scratched until I got enough wits back to jam the pistol against the side of its jaw and blow its head off.
Flames were licking up from the trash in front of me. Not much, but the smoke and little glow was enough to buy me a moment.
17-18 known shots and the 'spray and pray' (16 distinct from the 'sprayed' shots, plust at least 1-2 extra shots) Assuming 3-4 shots a second over a few seconds (4-5) we're talking 12-20 more perhaps. That would suggest Kass's weapon had at least 18-20 shots, possibly as many as 40 (or more) I think I'll just cheat and use 80 shots (from the munitorum manual) as the upper limit here, and 20-30 shots (from Inquisitor and FFG rpgs) as the lower limits for shot numbers.
Another laspistol shot blowing off a rat's head.. again 15-20 kj per shot.
There are flames now inside the enclosure, that suggests the 'spray and pray' lasfire was igniting mateiral - 125 j per square cm)
Page 76
I didn't care how my voice sounded. I was bleeding and hunted and low on ammo - the amber telltale was winking on the back of my laspistol.
Kass's laspistol is almost dead/dead now. We can use this and the above to estimate laspistol power cell capacity. I'll just settle for single or double digit kj (call it 2-20 kj) And power pack capacity. 20-80 shots. That yields between 40 kj (at least) to 1.6 MJ. For a 20-30 minute recharge is between 22W and 1300 watts to recharge. For a 2-3 hour 'recharge' rate for lasguns (7200-10800 seconds) we get between 158 kj to 9.4 MJ, and 238 kj-14 MJ for a power pack. If we're assuming a lasgun (50-60 shots) we get between 2.7-4 kj and 188-280 kj per shot.
Page 80-81
Scalies. That's what they're called, the big mutants that sometimes run with the scavvy mobs. Way down at Hive bottom, in the hellish waste-layers where the poisons are so thick nothing clean can live, that's where they keep themselves to themselves unless the scavvies can lure them up to fight. Yonni said he'd hunted them down around Lost Hope in his younger days. Said the Scalies had found their balance with the toxins that warp you and find their way through to your children so your grandchildren are nothing you can recognise.
I think that would technically make them abhuman rather than mutant, if they've become a stable strain.
Page 83
"It's a juice-talker. Tells you how much power is running down a cable."
A voltage reader I'd guess.
Page 83
"That's poke-foam. Buying it new from uphive is expensive, but you can strip usable stuff out of old parts if you know how." This was insane. Listen to this! Chatting to a scavvy boss about the fine points of lamplighter kit! I wondered what Yonni would say about it.
Again, a commentary on their ability to adapt and recycle anything.

Page 87
I remembered Yonni's stories about how scalies could knit themselves new flesh, how once a scaly he knew he'd winged had waded into his next hunting party with no sign left of the bullet-hole. No point in sacrificing myself if he was just going to grow himself whole again, was there?
Scalies apparently can regenerate. Useful talent for mutants.
Page 87-88
She wore typical scrappy gang armour: patches of meshmail or recycled ceramite plate strapped over her jacket and leggings.
Gang armour.
Page 93-94
The caravan's only advantage was the drop the scavvies had to scramble up onto the roadway. Unable to move forward or back, pincered with matchlock shots and tox bombs, the guards had formed up around their power-carts and were fighting like devils to keep that one last advantage.
Really adds to that 'wild west' theme, I think.

Page 98-100
I remember a blur, and a hot stripe of pain sitting across my chest from the left side of my breastbone to my right shoulder. Thumps and shocks and then light, and then a cool splatter across my chest and face - water!
..
She held a lasgun at hip-height.
..
"Hasn't been tending to her piece quite as she should have. That second it took for the beam to heat up is why you've got a brand across you instead of a hole." She chuckled. "On the other hand, I had a look at where she hit you and her actual aim was damn fine. Right over your heart. Her reflexes were pretty good too. Twitched that gun right around quick time. Most of the burst went over your shoulder. It all balances out, I think. Her quickness is why you're breathing now, and drinking our water."
...
"Crappity knockoff lasbarrel won't stay clean."
..
"If Junktion-town doesn't feel like ransoming you then maybe these'll be our little commission for bringing your hide out of there. Scorched or no."
An interesting commentary about the nature and operation of lasweapons. A poorly maintained lasweapon does not put a 'hole' in the target.. apparently lasweapons are not just heat rays in this context, but may actually be a Luke Campbell style 'pulse train' blaster laser (drilling a hole through the target) Between the laser taking a 'second' to heat the target, the burns, and the blame on the lasbarrel suggests it was focal point that was the problem (not enough energy focused on a small enough point.) I'd guess the hole is between the sternum/breastbone and heart (2-5 cm, which meshes with estimated beam diameter at least) and up to over the shoulder (20-30 cm estimated). If he can feel pain, we're only talking 1st or 2nd degree burns (10-20 j per sq cm perhaps) and 'most of the burst' goes over the shoulder. The 'burst' ranges from 400 to 3000 Joules at least (for flash burns) for the burst that did hit, but we dont know how much went over. Probably at least 1/4 to 1/5th the total, given the whole 'reflexes' thing. which would be 1.6 kj to 15 kj. We dont know if this was a single shot, or a series of bursts, or what either, so deriving anything calcable is not possible beyond this (low end) estimate. As I said, it speaks more to the function and operation of at least some Necromundan-pattern lasweapons than anything.
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Part 2


Page 101
The motors of the four big power-carts whined, hard rubber caterpillar tracks squealed on the metal roadway and the carts started to pull themselves along. Behind each one a pair of slaves gripped the steering yokes under the direction of a gangwoman: whatever machinery steered the carts had long ago broken and now they had to be hauled through changes of direction with muscle-power. More huffing slaves carried bundles of provisions on either side of the caravan and Curse gangers paced between them, tense and sombre.
Power carts again. Another form of conveyance of goods or people in the Hive.
Page 101
The lights were good and solid, although of no make I could identify, but the bulbs and cores were cheap yellow-burning Orlock knockoffs and the wiring down to the cart motors wasn't all it could be.
Kass commenting on the Escher lighting on the power carts and the rig. again a reflection of his own acquired knowledge.

Page 102-104
I'd never thought too much about the Penman's Deep water-plant - it wasn't on my usual rounds. I remembered big condenser vanes sticking into horrifying pits that went up and down forever, and tunnels lined with pipes and clanging machinery. But really they were just, well, there. The kind of thing you find in the Underhive sometimes, abandoned but working or at least fixable, like the cable-cars over the Coma Gulch scrapmines. Underhivers get fatalistic about stuff like this. If you can keep it working and maybe turn a cred or three it's fine. When something happens you go on your way.
Listening to Safine tell what was happening all through the badzones, I realised that those clanking old engines must have fed water into many more places than just Junktion.
...
Everywhere for days' walk around was a dustbowl. The causeway underneath Wilhelm's Crossing now just spanned a gully full of silt. At Coma Gulch the constant drizzle from the high pipes not only brought water but settled and sluiced away the metal-dust drifting down from the Hive City waste pits, but now that was gone. A chain of holesteads linking Tarvo with Junktion and the Gulch had died, one after the other, as the bores and pipe-taps they used to feed their algae pits simply no longer ran.
...
And several places had been found in ruins, the algae vats stripped or smashed, the families dead or just gone. ne had been in Curse territory, a pair of sisters from hive-city who'd barricaded off a kilometre of empty corridors near Crossing and Tarvo and farmed fungus and pudge-moths. They and their hired hands had put up a fight...
...
"Thank the Motherlode the Falls are partly fed by flows from elsewhere or we'd be on the road and half-parched like these other poor spitters, instead of being able to bring it into Junktion to sell."
Kass reflects on the importance of water to the Underhive enviroment, and his own provincial attitudes - he didnt dwell on where it came from - wasn't his job - and didn't realize the true scope of - or the interdependency - of his enviroment, as well as the impact such things could have on him as well as others. Indeed he spends a good deal of the book trying to avoid thinking in such terms due to his past, but he can't really escape it.

Page 104
"You were kept alive while they ate the dead meat. The wet dead meat. It was easier to truss you and carry your water around in your living skin."
Good thing that extracting water from living beings ain't common either (like in Dune) else people'd get murdered for the moisture in their bodies. Or we could have some sort of soylent-green type situation. It highlights how problems are worsening - even the mutants and the Hive wildlife (like the rats) are getting desperate for water, and that drives them in towards places of habitation. It just illustrates how extensive an 'ecosystem' the hive itself has developed, after a fashion, and how if one thing goes wrong it can have consequences that can spiral out to touch on many different aspects of Underhive life.
Page 105
.. I remembered my other injuries, where those big mutant-bastard rats had clawed and pricked me. Truth to tell I was ashamed myself. I'd been cut and had gone crawling around in litter and filth. It should have been the first thing I saw to as soon as they got me up on the cart. A five-year-old would know better. Had I spent so much time around the scavvies I wanted to rot myself away to look more like them?
Medical care in the underhive is again a major concern, at least if you aren't an idiot.
Page 112
They carried axes and cleavers slung at their backs and their big hands gripped thick-barrelled stubbers, the kind the House Goliath factories churned out and anyone else practically needed a tripod to use.
Goliath armaments. Again these may not be the OMFG huge and obscenely strong Goliaths of other novels, but they probably are bigger and stronger than normal people (Equivalent to other gang's heavies, probably) so they can still carry heavy weapons far easier than others (eg they cna carry weapons others have to ues on a tripod, so we're probably talking Medium or heavy Machine gun analogues. Although they may be using it in two hands rather than one handed the way the super-huge Goliaths can.)
Page 113
Looking up at Safine didn't suit the Steelhead deputation - not good for the pose - so they switched their gaze to the women on the ground. They grow them big in House Goliath, they brag about it, and three of the four were easily big enough to look down their noses at any member of the Curse they stood next to.
Goliath/Escher size comparisons.
Page 119
"We thought they'd moved on after the Curse and the Berserkers kicked them out of Tarvo but they're back. Turns out they got on the good side of town father Stope when they gave Heggoran's Nightmares a hiding at Wilhelm's Crossing and let him get his toll racket on the causeway going again. Stope's convinced they're his friends and partners and Volk was smart enough to play up to him. So they're in too. You're not the only one Heliko's after, either, Kass. He led a hit on the fathers' water cisterns and there are watchmen dead up on the Black Pile. The fathers are scared. "
Things have gottne worse in Kass's absence. The Town Fathers and those that work for them are all but at war with their own populace, and the Cawdor are now working alongside the Goliaths inside Junktion. We also learn that the rebels have expanded their hits, although they seem to be of a lesser issue now. What's more, the Cawdor are rampaging through down purging and burning and generally making life even more of a hell for people because of all the perceived 'sin' they see. And thees are the sort of Cawdor who believe in torching homes and killing sinners, and who will self mortify/scourge/mutilate/burn to cleanse themselves.
page 121
It's hard to get truly fat in the Underhive, but if you're a town father you can manage it well enough.
Obesity is a rarity in the Underhive, unless you're a corrupt, selfish town official.

Page 128
" The fathers are scared. They haven't cut the rations and upped the prices for fun. Even for the lamplighters, it's no work no water. They'll let Nardo dry up and die if he doesn't come good, so you take him this and look after him, and you didn't get his water from me."
Water is becoming even more scarce, and the gangs are stealing a fair bit of it for themselves, which makes it worse for the native population.

PAge 129-130
Cawdors aren't popular here, them and their Church of the Red Redemption. In most places, here or in Hive City, gutting and burning anyone who looks at you crosswise as a spiritually poisoned infidel in need of redemption quickly sees you on the wrong end of a gunbarrel yourself. Not in House Cawdor, or the one-sixth of Hive City they rule. The Redemption is that House's official religion, which means a steady stream of evangelical maniacs bringing it down to the Underhive with them. The craziest of all are the Redemptor Priests, the ones who've lost all interest in founding settlements or even staking out a gang turf. All they want to do is go to war. Kill and clean and pray and burn, leave a trail of blood and ashes through the Underhive.
...
I'm sure it's very complicated being a Redemptionist. They seem to have an endless list of hymns and prayers and curses to learn, and in my time around the Underhive I've seen their insane Redemptor Priests - usually being dragged through the town gates behind a bounty hunter crew - with heavy books or data-cages full of laws and sayings and holy writ. Those tend to get burned or smashed when the Priest goes on the gallows.
But the upshot is simple. They hate everyone and everything except themselves, and I'm not too sure about the 'except'. If you're careful not to cross them they'll settle for trying to make you as crazy as they are. If you do one single thing they don't like then they'll have you dead and burned the first chance they get. That's all I've ever really understood about what the Redemptionists believe and it's all I think I'll ever really care to understand.
..
The only reason the Cawdor gangs can live at all is that the need to make a living has to temper their zeal. If you burn a trading post to the ground the first time you see a boozing hole or a kootchie-joint you end up dead for a bounty or starving in the badzones, the way the full-fledged crusading Reddies all do sooner or later. So they deal with it, like the Escher have to learn to deal with males. They buckle those masks around their heads and pretend they're able to stay above the rest of us. They strike deals.
Kass contemplates the Redemption and Cawdor. Again its interesting how despite the 'main' 40K universe promoting the Emperor worship as a big and central thing in people's lives, its alot less common in parts of the Hive Cities and all but unheard of in the underhive. And those cases where it is heard of get attributed heavily to the Cawdor and redemptionists.

Page 132
Yonni had started the big arcs up at lightson, and I'd done what I could, but I'd been brooding about the dimness of the lights as I'd left. But I hadn't been there when the effects of the dark properly hit.
Fights had broken out in Greimplatz and Cyclops Square. Four traders had been robbed on the Bell Common. Refugee mobs had tried to rush the gates at the liftport and Highborn Avenue. There had been a dozen deaths at the Peelgut farms, four more at town father Wilferra's walled-in fungus-garden at the base of the Black Pile. With the water going and now the light as well, people had been afraid that the town was on its last legs and the fear had come close to being self-fulfilling.
Interesting how water and light are the two big commodities that were previously taken for granted, and yet have a massive impact on the living and actions of people throughout the city.

Page 135
I'd rescued what I could from father's little machine-shop, but it wasn't enough.
..
The Underhive chewed up a dozen gang-juves every day, but it had better things to offer a young man who knew juice- and circuit-work and was good with his hands.
Kass's origins. His father ran a machine shop, and that seemed to play a role in his education with electronics and shit, which means his father had some knowledge of that as well. Again no Machine Spirit AdMech crap involved either.

PAge 135-136
After a while Tanny was old enough to start going out on her own, trapping rats and chute-dogs the way she and I had done in the crawlways around the old 'stead. She taught herself to tan and sell the hides, learned to use a knife and to shoot the little holdout stubber I got her.
She learned brewing, too. There's always a few creds going for someone who knows how to run a still, no matter where in the Underhive you are.
You know these are fond memories for Kass, but the idea of giving a young girl a pistol hs its own sort of.. chills to it, doesn't it? Fuck blowing up planets and killing tons of people in horrible ways, something about a kid with a gun rather than having toys can be far more dark.
Page 136-137
If I knew what had happened to her it would be a lot easier. She had popped her head over the top of my ladder to see if I'd finished heat-shaping the new pipes her boss needed for the still, and stuck her tongue out at me when I told her no. She waved over her shoulder as she vaulted down the ladder and walked back under the nest of stringlights to the tunnel chopped into die pipe wall, that led to the drinking den. I know that a few minutes after that she was serving a half-bottle of Second Best to a pair of sump-gunnies who were passing through looking for bounty work. They took a shine to her, they said, and later on they were the ones who helped me try and find her.
But they didn't find anything, and neither did I, and the people who came past on the road knew nothing, and I even paid a Ratskin in money and the booze Tanny had brewed, for him to tell me that neither of the local tribal camps had seen her. She walked back across the roadpipe, her back to me, waggling her fingers over her shoulder, and there it stops. That memory. She was sixteen.
My mother went a year after that. The tiredness that had ended our travels turned out to be the white choke, picked up from some spore-rotted place along the lower trails, and never knowing about Tanny ate at her the way it did me. In the Underhive it never pays to get too attached to people, but sometimes you can't help it. She and I hung on at that shitty little waypost, and when the choke finally took her I burned her and hit the road within a week. At least with her I knew what had happened. I'd been there at the end, holding a cup of water to her lips. I'd carried her down out of our loft.
Again, Kass's memories of his sister and the death of his mother.. or rather her disappearance, which forms a strong basis for his life, and why he doesnt likes to pull that 'I dont get involved, I just do my job' thing. I think there's alot of impact in a whole 'unknown disappearance' of his sister, it really lets you sort of try to fill in the gaps as to what happened to her, which can sort of personalize the underlying horror and harshness of underhive life.
Page 139
I only owned the two firearms but I had my choice of blades. I knew the handles by touch: the stiletto, the fat hooked flensing knife I'd traded off a spider hunter, the sawtooth I used on cable-covers. The one I pulled out was from a weapon shop in Ghoul Bend, based on a Ratskin warknife design, a thick wedge of chopping blade the length of my forearm, fattening toward the end to give weight to a swing.
Kass' knife collection.

Page 140
At least they didn't seem very well-equipped. They didn't have anything that could cut or blast. But I felt equally naked, and not just because I hadn't put on a shirt. I remembered Safine and her gangwomen. Respirator masks, belts of reloads, pistols, knives, pouches of grenades, climbing-spikes, clip-harnesses, darkvisors... Sometimes we settlement types forgot what sort of walking armouries the successful gangers turned into.
Equipment of successful underhivers, especially gangs.

PAge 142
A hand popped around the doorframe and an autopistol burst struck the shelf over my head, shattering a plastic toolcase and bouncing my spare heating-pan onto the floor with a row of small-bore holes chewed into it.
'small bore' autopistol rounds.

Page 144
" Azer Auvin? The Cyclops Square smokehouse? What the hell are you doing acting like some badzone mugger? Half the people in Junktion buy meat off you."
They even have meat sellers in the underhive. What kinds of meat.. probably is best not to dwell on (probably not human, at least.)

PAge 145
I got my hand around it just as the corridor filled with smoking, roaring light.
It was nothing like the flamers I'd seen used around Junktion before. Not a drizzly stream of sticky burning liquid, but a blinding gas-jet playing across the corridor, scorching flesh into ash. The shotgunner managed one brief scream that was drowned out by the rapid bangs of his shells cooking off. The man I'd cut writhed for a few seconds and then was just smoke and bones, and the men at the doorway, Auvin and his companion, got about five steps before steps and screams stopped.
..
I knew who used flamers like that.
..
I stood and met the Firebrand eye to eye while his flamer covered me.
..A moment after that he jammed the hot muzzle of the flamer into my chest, making me yell and clutch at my singed skin.
A differnet kind of flamer in the underhive, seemingly signautre of the Cawdor. Gas rather than liquid chemical. It still implies an ability to cremate flesh to some degree or naother.

PAge 150
The flamer gave a single incandescent cough of that white gas again and there were howls as clothes were scorched away from backs that were suddenly black and blistering. In perfect ganger sync, the scattergunner stepped forward behind the fire-jet, calmly aiming his sawnoff. He'd loaded hotshot shells, man-cookers, that popped in the middle of the crowd with more flames, bright enough to hurt Underhive eyes and light up the crowd as they screamed and began running.
Flamer again, plus 40K equivalent of dragons breath/incendiary shotgun ammo. I'm guessing they give some wide spread/nasty (lethal) second or third degree burns, tens or hundreds of kj per shell maybe. Assuming 2nd degree burns over the chest area (40x40 cm at aorund 20-30 j per sq cm for example, we get 30-50 KJ. Then again if they do duplicate a flamethrower (think of digital flamers) it probably could get very.. energetic.

PAge 152
Fat-man flailed the knife and grabbed at a holster on his thigh and I stepped all the way into the room, put the little stubber in his face and painted the wall behind him. Half a step back to bring to bear on the woman. I wanted to tell her to get gone, but she snarled and whipped a saw-wire at my face.
I assume 'paint a wall' means he blew out the guys brains, literally.

PAge 152-153
I saw his fast-cycle lasrifle lying by the end of the bed, smashed against the door until it was bent almost to a right-angle; there was no sign of the heavy custom-balanced autos that he'd prized so much.
'fast cycle' lasrifle, as opposed to a slow cycle. varied rate of fire for lasweapons. Probably analogous to semi-automatic/bolt action and fully automatic or something.

Page 154-155
The first watchmen didn't have a chance. They were walking the fence and scanning the lower slopes of the Pile with heatseer lenses. It was how the watch had spotted the attack on me.
Junktion watchmen using IR lenses/goggles of some kind. Or maybe a scope.
Page 156
The sentries up in the Spyglass are spotlighting the rebels they can see and trying to get a bead, but long-range sharpshooting isn't really an Underhive thing and they can't get a shot that won't burst a pipe or smash a pump.
Interesting as it implies hive combat is mostly of the close quarters/short range combat rather than long ranges (the kind you might get on open plains.) which makes sense given the nature of a hive-habitat. Also unsurprising is how this is going to influence the nature of combat and the specialities of troops in such an enviroment (or from such an enviroment). Probably also affects the weaponry.

Page 156-157
Two watchmen angle a launcher and start skating fraggers of their own off the sides of the reservoir, trying to blow them over the rebels' heads to either drive them out or force them down.
...
The sentries with the launcher have had time to get smart and climb up the Spyglass tower. Now they balance there, aim by the spotlights, and drop a choker grenade just behind Ghilolla..
Junktion watchmen using a grenade launcher. Choke and frag.

Page 157
The big gangs like the Berserkers and the Curse aren't the only ones with gorgeous hardware. The men who watch the town fathers' water are well kitted. Half a dozen guards enter the maze of pipes with photovisors over their eyes and respirators over their mouths. The choker fumes don't bother them any more than the eye-stabbing bursts of light from the flashbombs that are starting to come down from the grenade team.
Junktion Watchmen, funded by the town fathers, are also well equipped just like Hive Gangers can be.
Page 163-164
They let it look like coincidence, the way that there were suddenly heavy, lumpish Goliath pieces in their hands. One of them had a dot-sight: every so often a dim red showed where the beam caught a drift of smoke.
One of the Goliaths has a red dot laser sight.

Page 169
"They had no water left. The Steelheads took a tithe."
...
"The way I heard it, Kass, there was a gate-gang tithe that the Steelheads kept for themselves. Then there was the standard Junktion water-tithe, that's the traditional one that the town fathers brought in a dozen lightsons ago if you remember.' For the first time there was emotion showing in Tovick's voice. 'And apparently the Curse said they were there to sell their water to Junktion so there was a merchants' tax that they levied in water, too. There were probably a couple of others. I wasn't there. I didn't hear it directly."
But I had been. I remembered the Steelheads shouting and hooraying back and forth as they began hauling the water drums off the Curse's carts. I remembered Safine's hand on her pistol and the woman whose name I didn't know whose arm Silk had had to hold to keep her from rushing them.
Things are getting worse. The Escher basically got screwed, the water they intended to sell (and hlep) out Junktion got stolen and hoarded, and things are basically worse off. Nardo, one of Kass's friends and fellow lamplighters gets his house busted into and he gets tortrued for his ration by people he knew (and may have even liked) because they believe he is hoarding just as they attacked Kass thinking the same.
And the armorer, someone he respects, is turning more hostile even to Kass. The divisions are becoming sharper, and nastier.
Page 171
It was so narrow that the two Firebrands had to go up in tandem, the younger one guiding Hetch's flamer pack so that it wouldn't jam in the little space.
The 'gas' type flamers are backpack mounted just as the regular flamer types (like we see the Astartes and Guard use) are.

Page 172-173
I had never been into the garden compound before. Places like this had their own techs, people personally loyal to the owner.
..
Everyone knew he grew knittermoss here to sell to the apothecaries and even some fancy Guilder medics uphive, and I could see shallow pits, home to beds of the stuff. The circular mesh-houses between the mould pits and the garden wall puzzled me until I saw a knotty tendril poking over the top of one of them. The thick wireweed beds around the sixward walls were supposed to have come from cuttings grown somewhere in town, and now I knew where. That was only the start - the whole compound was a maze of vats and beds and pits that Heliko could have hid in for a year if he'd tunnelled up in here, a bigger and more elaborate setup than anything I'd seen in the farm belt around Peelgut.
Garden and what is grown inside it. Seems that rather than using it for food, they use it for more.. commercial.. ventures or private use. Note that the garden has its own techs as well distinct from the lamplighters.
Page 174
Beside it I could see a griddle stretched over a burner-pit and smell the sizzle of fungus steak and meatcake. Before I could help it a fat drop of saliva rolled out of the corner of my mouth and made a break for my chin.
More Hive cuisine, fungus steaks and meatcakes. They seem to use alot of meat substitutes and similar (like synthnuts in the Kal Jerico books)

Page 177
We were over eight kilometres out of Junktion on the Mirror-Bitten trail..
Lower limit on Hive diameter.
Page 179
House Delaque, of course, narrow-shouldered and bald-headed, in a straight black thermal coat-cloak that could fox heat-scopes if you knew the trick of it.
The Delaque thermal cloaks for hiding from IR detection.

PAge 183
Then I held the bluelight for Oordell as he hunched over and Runs-Touching-Shadows straightened up - nearly all the way, he wasn't tall - to scan around us with a heatseer monocle.
another IR viewing device.

Page 185
One- or two-family affairs, harvesting the moulds and parasitic creepers off the superstructure that went into their famous liquor-stills. I could make out dust awnings, firepits and algae vats, fungus gardens, fermenting stills, the holesteads themselves.
Underhive breweries.

Page 186
Runs-Touching-Shadows slid through the hole first, wrapped hands now also coated in patches of carefully looped spider-cord to help his grip. He lay on the gritty rockcrete and oozed over the lip of the hole like a snake, heat-goggles bulging from his head.
IR goggles instead of a monocle.

Page 186
Then we began seeing holes filled with trip-webs, or lined with wireweed that was too regular to be natural, or points of red light on the ceiling that meant there was a trip-beam hooked up to screamer alarms or an automatic gunnery rig down below.
Defenses and trap sset up to defend against attack. I wonder how the gun rigs are automated?

Page 190
Oordell had his thermal cloak spread over him, but if someone looked over the edge of Mirror-Bitten with a heatseer I'd shine like a torch.
Page 190
love it when I'm right. I just took it like a job like any other, like I was swapping an insulator on the Guilders' Hill path-light, like I was tinkering with a bulb filament in Yonni's workshop,..
Lamplighters have their own workshop for repairing/maintaining their lighting

Page 191
It snaked up from under the crosswalk, up a sheaf of other old cables that ran along the railing - I hopped over a spot where the mesh of the walk had disintegrated from corrosion - and there it entered a sheaf of other cables and then, ah, yes. Here were the newer lines trailing down from the nearest 'steads, with their rougher bundling and hand-wrapped insulator jackets, and here was where they disappeared into the main cable-tap. The join was wrapped and secured as tight as they could make it, of course, and painted with a paste of 'shroom-sap and pulverised glass to make it hard to pull free. But there are plenty of times in a lamplighter's rounds where we need to kill the juice running through a cable, and there are all kinds of elegant ways.
Kass doing what he does best again. Once more it seems knowledge of electronics and lighting is (to varying degrees) commonplace.

Page 198
He reached a corner, moved deftly into the tight angle and grinned for me to follow him again. Then the side of his skull exploded as his head wrenched sideways and by the time the boom of the shot died away Runs-Touching-Shadows was already flat against the side of the duct, slumped down from a crouch to a sprawl with the grin still on his dead face.
We dont know explicitly what causes it, but its implied some sort of stubber shortly after. Probably a pistol.

Page 198
I drew my las, and wrestling the long barrel loose in a tight chute was almost as bad. (Ever wonder why those little snubnose pistols are called 'tunnel-stubbers'? Or why gangers wear them in a little upside-down clutch-holster on their shoulders? I didn't after this.) After a moment I remembered some of Venz's old tunnel-fighting tips, dropped down on my belly, drew the pistol and passed it from hand to hand, turning it over when I had it in front of me, thumbing the arming-catch just as Garm Heliko came around the corner.
The (probable) source of the headshot on the Ratskin. also the problem with long arms (or long barreled weapons in general) in a hive enviroment.

Page 199
He reached a corner, moved deftly into the tight angle and grinned for me to follow him again. Then the side of his skull exploded as his head wrenched sideways and by the time the boom of the shot died away Runs-Touching-Shadows was already flat against the side of the duct, slumped down from a crouch to a sprawl with the grin still on his dead face.
...
He was blood-blotched, not all of it Runs-Touching-Shadows'.
again that suggests that Heliko's stubber was what killed the Ratskin.

Page 199
I yelped at the pain and the reflex jerk snapped yellow lasbolts into the top of the pipe and scarred the metal red-hot.
We dont know how many lasshots, how thick the metal is, what kind of metal or even the diameter being heated, but if we assume each shot heats roughly 2-3 cm diameter, a 5mm thick pipe, and made of iron and a temp between 770 K and 1060 K (depending on whether you include 'cherry' as red hot.) I estimate at least 16-35 grams of metal heated up. by 197 kj (420 J per kg/K) to 282 kj (600 J per kg*K) to 320-456 kj (same) assuming a starting temp of 300 K. This means the energy output ranges between 3-10 kj per shot (for the first set of calcs) to 5-16 kj per shot. Of course if the pipe is thicker, or the area heated bigger, or if any other properties (like material) differe then the yields change. (For example a 4 cm diameter patch 2 cm thick of iron would be 250 grams roughly, and would yield between 50 and 114 kj per shot)

Page 201
Bats bayed as a fan of lasbolts burned the air over Heliko's head, lighting up his bent back and the outlines of the mangy bats that were circling him. My third shot punched one out of the air a hands-breadth over his shoulder and my fourth skewered two in front of him.
\
Laspistol shot penetrating two bats at once. Not really much point calcing since we dont know the nature of the bats, but a 2 cm hole through both probably could be handled by single digit KJ easily. It speaks more to the penetration abilities of the lasfire more than anything.

Page 201-202
Every second Firebrand I passed seemed to have a hand flamer or a bandolier of scarlet hotshot shells, and the Steelheads were toting giant hammers that even their heavy bodies strained to swing, or long-barrelled autocannons, or thermal mines. Weapons to wreck buildings with.
...
It was Gruett of the Steelheads, brandishing a melta-gun over his head as though it were a sidearm.
'demolition' weapons of the gangers.. autocannons, thermal mines, hotshot shells and flamers, and a meltagun.

Page 203
"Except I hear tell he got past you and away, you litde toad, so I think it's about time for you to start watching yourself. I don't like your skinny little techy hands any more than I like your little rat-face." An open-handed clout. I could reach for a belt-knife, but I had seen the meshmail covering Gruett's gut and thighs, and the dozen armed Steelheads behind us. "Seems to me my men are going to give you a little reminder each time they see you around Junktion from now on. Nobody likes you in Junktion. Not even the Heliko worm, the way I hear it."
AT this point Kass seems to have alienated virtually everyone with his 'standoff' policy, hasn't he?

Page 209
"There's nobody in a rat's run of here that can get that water plant at the Deep running again, Kass. Believe me, it's true. Don't think your town fathers haven't tried. That was what got my attention uphive. Frantic messengers running all over the settlements offering any price you can name. Parts for the little stills aren't so hard to come by, but machinery like what was in the Deep? Machinery that can keep the water in the veins of more Underhive than you can walk through in a dozen lightsons? No."
I remembered Safine talking about how deep and how far the Dry Season ran. How many outlets and hidden streams those pumps had kept fed. How had we ever let them run with just a handful of bored guards? But it hadn't been my job. I was just a lamplighter. I fixed things and kept my head down.
Problems with repairing the big underhive machinery, at least for the Underhivers and without help.

Page 212
"Nevertheless, Kass, there may be channels available. There are, you know, arrangements that can be made. It wouldn't be the first time that some of the old industrial plant around the Underhive has been rehabilitated. It isn't so usual this far down, but it's possible."
Again anything is possible, with the right connections.

Page 213
"Controlling the water, controlling the light, that's going to be the game. Control that and you control the trade."
Which makes sense if you think about all the stuff up to this point. The lights are important for security, controlling the habits and behaviours of the Junktioners (they're used to it and they depend on the light as a sign of prosperity and stability), and the water is important for obvious reasons. Control those things nd you control Junktion.

Page 215
"He had brought fungus jerky and dry meatcake that tasted of road-dust.
more Hive cuisine of the travel vareity, I suspeect.

Page 219-220
Most of the town would be kept in darkness. The big arc arrays would stay on all the time, but the rest of Junktion would get by on one lamp per street. Heatseers and darkvisors would be impounded if seen. Only the Steelheads and Firebrands would carry them. I had been going to ask when my next lamplighting rounds would be, but that was a joke now.
Again control of the light, which would also extend to outlawing night vision/IR gear, whcih says something about their availability to the populace.
Page 220
Two of Volk's Firebrands had been on their way up the trail to lay claim over the reservoir at its top for Cawdor use only. They'd been too late. There were already four Steelheads guarding the compound, three more in the Spyglass tower and two at the base of the trail. Neither side would back down and nobody could say who drew first. One badly gut-shot Steelhead managed to drag himself almost to Wilferra's gates before he died and the other, bleeding, staggered up the trail as his gangmates ran down to meet him. They fired thunderous heavybore autogun bursts after the Firebrand who'd survived the initial exchange but by then he was a disappearing shadow. The other Cawdor was sprawled on the ground with half his head gone and his chest and belly las-burned almost to ash.
The infamous 'las burned to ash' calc from before. all I'm really going to say is that it may not be as 'big' as I previous mentioned. While it mentioned burning to ash.. it really doesnt say that his head was cremated (even partly) or that head/belly were totally cremated (in volume) in other words it may just be flash burns of indeterminate depth. Assuming 1000 J per sq cm (the 'torch' intensity) we might figure a 1 m tall by 40 cm wide area is 4000 sq cm which is a 'mere' 4 MJ. Which, honestly, is more consistent with lasweapons.
We still don't know the number of shots, or the kind of weapon. If a lascannon, that might mean 800-1000 kj per shot (~5 shots.. if its 20 shots its 1/4 that.) If we assume a lasgun (50-60 shots) its 67-80 kj per shot (150-300 shots as per mnuitorm manual is around 13-17 kj per shot). If it was a laspistol its 133-200 kj per shot (80 shot laspistol is a 'mere' 50 kj)
There is the possibilty of 'multiple packs' but as we see in this novel (and the Kal Jerico novels) lasweapon users rarely seem to carry many if any other additional packs, so it seems likely that it was from a single pack. It also may be some osrt of intermediate weapon, some sort of heavy lasgun (heavy stubber analogue) or a multilaser type.
So I guess it really depends on context.. if we're talking 'near cremation' flash burns along the surface (charring and shit) it can mean a lasgun or laspistol. If its more volumetric like I initially estimated.. more likely a lascannon (although that is unlikely) Note that this does not mean my 'old' calcs are invalid (we could have 20-30 kg of flesh being cremated, which means tens or hundreds of kj expended - a heat ray lasgun is not impossible) but its not the ONLY answer. Or neccesarily even the best answer in the larger context.

Page 221
..going over all the leads and fittings for the pintle-lights and floodlights there and doing what I had to with them.
..
I mapped every circuit and lead and connection I made, and I made sure Yonni had copies of everything.
Kass at his job, again, and the electrical aspects of it as well.

PAge 222-223
There was only one Firebrand walking the wall above us, a scrawny kid I didn't recognise carrying an autogun. An elaborate sighting monocle was built into one eyehole of his full-face black mask.
Sighting device which seems to be alot like the monosights and infrasights mentioned in the Necromunda game as well as from the 40K 3rd edition rules - basically a monocle linked to a sight on the gun.

Page 223
Before Drengoff left I gave him an autopistol that Tovick said was one of his best, a boxy, sturdy Orlock piece with two matt-grey plastic magazines.
Plastic magazines for ammo. Plasteel maybe? They'd be lightweight certainly.

Page 223-224
"Vlitz Thaki... ...is the Mercantile Guild Senior Deputy Comptroller of Satrapies for the Eighty-First Subdivision of the Hive City of our all-providing Hive Primus. You don't know what half of that means, but it doesn't matter. Thaki is a Guilder like me, belonging to no House. "
...
"Master Thaki spoke with me when I travelled uphive last."
...
"Their lights started flickering. All the lights in the Guild chambers. Thaki's counting-houses are in the Orlock quarter and the workhouses around him were bright enough. The Guild takes its juice from separate lines, you see. Ones that go down into the Underhive."
...
"..I know for a fact that Thaki didn't say a word about Junktion. He doesn't know your town from the hole he craps into, Kass. All he said - are you listening? - all he said was "do something about that, see to it". That was all. His artificers and techmen cross-fed some juice and stopped the lamps flickering, and then when they backtracked and found some Underhiver's bodged cable-tap Thaki's adjutant told one of his captains to make sure there was no more trouble from those inbred scum. It's how they all think of you up there, you know"
...
"'I don't think that the captain led the raid either, it wasn't really such a big deal." Tai laughed again. "It was one of his subordinates who came down your Well. I don't think Thaki even knows anything happened down here. His adjutant doesn't either, nor the captain. The only report that went back up the line was that everything was fixed, and Thaki's happy because his lights aren't flickering any more. "
And we learn the real reason for the Hive militia strike on Junktion and the water plant from the beginning of the book. Surprise! Mucking about with the power taps (which is attributed to Kass - IRONY!) caused the Uphive folks inconvenience, which was 'dealt with' as we found out. It really illustrates the whole separation between up-hive/down-hive mentalities (or spire from hive city/underhive types) and the stratification of the society as a whole - I mean its one guy - one guy who causes all the pain and trouble because his lights flicker (well because of Kass too, its but its just this guy) and he does so casually and unthinkingly, which really gets to you. It's like all those modern conveniences americans have (ipods, and shit) and not dwelling on the circumstances (and problems) that may have brought it to them, in my mind at least.
And then there's Kass. The guy spends the bulk of the book trying to convince himself things aren't his problem, aren't his responsibility.. and it turns out he did have responsibility for it. He finally learns that alot of actions and causes in the underhive can have unanticipated consequences. Which is really the turning point, because he can no longer fool himself, and he is the sort of person who can't live with having done this to people, so he has to fix it. Which he does.
That isn't all of course, human nature (fear, self preservation, uncertainty, greed, etc.) all play a role, and the Cawdor/Goliath gangs (and one particularily assholish Guilder) certainly help to exacerbate the situation (particularily the Guilder, he's definitely an exploitative bastard.)

Page 228-229
The switching house where we used our piecemeal knowledge of juice tech to redirect and balance the lines, and control the web of bodged taps and feeds that kept Junktion lit and humming. The first cross-switches had been set up in here before even Yonni had come to Junktion and the forest of cables had grown steadily ever since then. They grew out of the walls in humming bunches, knitted themselves into bundles or splayed apart like fingers, were strung on long racks or hung from the ceiling, threading through sparking, fizzing switch-panels.
More on the lighting setup in Junktion that Kass and the others were responsible for.

Page 229
...a lot of the gangers who carry the flashier weapons are the ones who know their tech, and I had been thinking about traps and trick-shots I could safely try in here in case Hetch turned out to know more about what we were doing than we could allow.
Kass is concerned that some Gangers might have enough knowledge to figure out his plans. Which shows that some of the high tech (maintenance and such) gear can impart some strong (non machine spirit) knowlege of the sort Kass himself has.

Page 233
He worked in the smoke pits fiveward of Cyclops Square, melting and remoulding plastic and rubber stripped from old Hive machinery. It occurred to me that the work of the last few lightsons might have gone smoother if I'd known some of these people better.
Again there is a whole industry in Junktion dedicated to recycling and harvesting old materials for new purposes.
Page 234
We'd got him a lasgun to sling at his chest, a short-stock fast-cycle Van Saar piece that was the closest Tovick could get to Nardo's old customised one. He'd wrapped a length of flakcloth around his abdomen for want of proper armour.
Another 'fast cycle' lasgun, and flakcloth' as armour.

Page 236-237
When he shifted to reload and bear on us again I saw his piece. It wasn't Hive City but Underhive made, a heavy single-shot stubber that loaded with a bolt and lever, the kind that holesteaders call a rifle.
..
"Give me your piece, else arm and get up here! They skulk at the end of my scope range and won't come close, but with another piece up here they won't dare rush me.."
Single shot bolt/lever action rifle. I'm guessing it fires a full power cartridge, so it might have a range of at least a few hundred metres, but possibly more if we take 'scope range' literally (600, 800, or even 1000 metres perhaps. Then again given KAss' earlier comments about 'no sharpshooters' in the Hive, those might be unlikely.)

Page 239
The wall guard didn't stand a chance, of course. Outside the walls they knew what was coming and were ready with heatseer goggles and darkvisors. The instant the light was gone the defenders' advantages were gone too.
The Escher/Cawdor gangers Kass has allied with have their own NVG/IR gear.

PAge 243
There was just enough time for his expression to change as I brought the laspistol up and then the shot laid him out with a black crater between his eyes. I didn't look at him again.
I'd guess a 2-5 cm 'crater' between the eyes, but it has to be fairly penetrative, but non explosive. Single digit kj at least (assume 1000 J per sq cm for 'torch like' intensities. 4-25 kj at least.)

Page 244
I was dead. With a simple waggling motion he could fill the whole tunnel with cauterising white flame. It wasn't even worth trying to roll out of the way.
'cauterising' flame. Read into that however ya like.

Page 245
The shock went right up my body to the crown of my head, then I grabbed the grip of my laspistol and fired through the bottom of the holster, the beam scorching the side of my leg. It hit Hetch in the middle of his belly and doubled him over.
Whilst I do not think we can calc this incident, it does show that lasweapons can cause some sort of secondary 'heating' effects for near misses or proximity hits (either from the laser heating up the air surrounding it, or the 'laser' emitting some sort of heat/radiation laterally to the beam/bolt itself.)
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Post by Connor MacLeod »

Back at this, going for two a day rather than six a day, let's see if this works. also we're going for completion of both Necromunda and SMB within 2-3 updates at this rate, so that can free things up for me (for the immediate future as far as SMB goes, at least.)

Anyhow, we got the Kal Jerico series coming up next, which are three books from Necromunda I never covered. Kal Jerico is sort of the Ciaphas Cain of the Necromunda franchise. He's a womanizer, a hedonist, rather self centered, but he's also a devoted, honorable and fundamentally good guy deep down. Where Cain is a Commissar, Kal Jerico is a Spire noble turned Underhive Bounty hunter. He has a foul smelling sidekick (a Ratskin named Scabbs - Jurgen to his Cain) and a female compatriot named Yolanda (not quite an amberley analogue, but also a runaway Spire Noble and a potential love interest.) He originated IIRC as a character, but he also had a comic book series by Gordon Rennie and Will McDermott. Rennie had a hand in the first novel (I think) but after that McDermott took it on.

Blood Royal is a nice intorduction to the series, although I think Cardinal crimson is my favorite, and Lasgun wedding the weakest. We start with Blood Royal, in two parts:


Page 8
The dull-grey wall behind him once hummed with power, but that was in a time before remembering, back when Hive Primus wasn't even a mile high.
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But time and the pressing weight of the ten-mile-tall Hive had pushed this once glorious dome, cracked and crumbling, into the depths of the Underhive.
Early days of Hive Primus, vs Hive Primus of today. 1 mile vs 10 miles over 10,000+ years

Page 9
Bester reached into a pocket in his skin-tight battle-suit and pulled out a crumpled pack of tox-sticks.

...

He switched his augmetic eye to nightvision and scanned the area.
Bounty hunter. While it isn't power armour, the battle-suit seems to be more than just body armour or a bodyglove, given hints later. He also has an augmetic eye with night vision, not unlike uagmetics sported by other Underhivers like Mad Donna Ulanti.


Page 10
. He adjusted the brightness on his eye and peered into the shop, but saw nothing.
Night vision eye has variable brightness modes.

Page 10
All the wiring in these pipes had also been scavenged long ago. Along with machinery parts and abandoned weapons, copper wiring was just about the most valuable archeotech a hiver could find in a sunken dome.
- Copper wiring is useful salvage in the underhive. Hell its Archeotech. :P Does this mean the manufacturing of copper wiring is an almost lost art to the Imperium?

Page 14
Helmawr himself had ruled for hundreds of years, longevity was just another commodity his immense wealth and power easily afforded him.
The wealthy on Necromunda have access to rejuv, although as we learn later this may even be more restricted on Necromunda than compared to other worlds.

Page 15
Helmawr was not used to the sight of blood and dead bodies - at least not in his home. Assassina­tion was one thing, many a noble had succumbed to the assassin's blade or a vial of poison emptied into a bowl of soup, but those deaths were clean, artful even, and were accepted practice within the Noble Houses of the Spire. Brutal murder, though, that belonged in the world beyond the Spiral Gates. Violence was a fact of life in Hive City and a way of life in the Underhive. Vio­lence of this nature did not belong in the Imperial palace.
Commentary on the state of affairs uphive vs downhive. THE spire has its own sort of violence and death, but it doesn't encompass the same openess or brutality that you get in Hive City or the Underhive.

page 16
Unlike the two guards, though, there was very little blood around the dismembered chamberlain. Of course, the man had been more machine than flesh. Stiv had been with Helmawr since the beginning, and no expense was spared to keep such a trusted advisor alive. But this time, there would be no saving Stiv. His way­ward son had seen to that. The damage was too severe for even Lord Helmawr's physicians and augmetists to fix.
Unsurprisingly, Helmawr's people can't put together someone who has been dismembered. This may have been done before elsewhere, but it is far from common.

Page 18-19
Scabbs barrelled into Jerico and the laspistol fired, searing a hole through the metallic ledge and taking a piece of the captive's ear with it.
..
Blood oozed from the man's shredded ear.
Kal's laspistol. Hard to calc, but it doesn't cauterize and the ear is 'shredded' which suggests it might be at least partly mechanical, and probably at least single digit kj. Particularily since it seared through the ledge after shredding the ear (at least 3-6 kj or so for a 1-2 cm thick, 2-3 cm diameter hole in the ledge, and maybe 1-2 kj more for shredding the ear)

Page 20
Jerico grabbed the bound man by the wrists and pointed the pistol at his fingers. "You might want to unclench your fists and spread your fingers... unless you want me to shoot all of them at once."
Kal threatens to shoot the guy's fingers off all at once. I'm guessing that hints he can blow the hand apart, or close to it, although he might also be suggesting to shoot through the hand lenghwise and sever all the fingers in one shot. Assuming 8-10 cm wide hand and , 2-3 cm thick fingers (diameter) we'd be talking a good 10-20 kj to blow off all the fingers lenghtwise. for a single shot to blow apart the hand? we might be talking 20-50 kj or thereabouts (calcs done by Laser Death ray Calculator by luke campbell. damn useful gadget!)

Either way it also points to laspistols putting (at least) finger-wide holes in things, at least living things.

Page 20
The private office was tucked away in the centre of the royal palace, com­pletely shielded on all sides from eavesdropping devices. Long forgotten sound dampening technology made it impossible to hear what was said unless you stood within ten feet of the speaker.
Sound damping and eavesdropping/security tech in Helmwar's office.

Page 22-23
Kauderer was easily a head taller than everyone in the room and towered over the other advisors, but it wasn't his abnormal height that put people off.
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Clein was only present in the meeting because his superior was the recently dismembered Stiv Harper. He was a small, unassuming man with short-cropped hair and a soft, doughy face topped by wire-rimmed glasses. He was about half the girth of Katerin and half the height of Kauderer.
Kauderer, Helmwar's chief spy and human vulture. Even allowing for clein to be a midget, Kauderer must be at least 2 m tall, and probably taller (2.5m) given he is noted to be 'abnormally tall' in this book. You'll find there are alot of tall people in this series, and not just the Goliaths.

Katerin is head of the Helmawr royal guard and is twice sa large as clein, but we dont know if thats mass, volume or what.


Page 27
"'I stopped Kal from shooting your fingers off, didn't I? We're all friends here"
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"You should have let him kill me" grumbled Derindi.
...
"Bleeding to death through a bloody stump would be like dying in bed compared to what'll happen to me if I talk"
That would IMPLY that Kal was going to blow the hand apart, but he could still just mean having the fingers blown off one by one or something.

Page 28
But when Jerico's hand came back out, it was full of tokens and bonds. He picked one bond from his palm and held it up to look at it.

Derindi saw the gangers at the bar ogle at the ceramite piece as Jerico pretended to check its authen­ticity.
..
Kal flicked the ceramite bond across the table at Derindi, who caught it out of reflex before it slammed into his stomach.
- "Ceramite bond" - a form of payment in the underhive (or possibly elsewhere). May be the same as Guild credits or bonds. Or it may be the difference between coins and paper money (bills and coins, credits and bonds.)

Page 30
Before continuing, however, he pulled a small device from the pocket of his tunic, flipped a switch, and set the item on Katerin's desk. "To protect us from prying ears."
Security measure against eavesdropping, yet again.

Page 32
Jak was a bull of a man, easily topping two metres tall and nearly twice as wide at the shoulders as he was at the waist. Sweat seemed to con­stantly glisten on his bulging, black biceps.
yet another two metre tall guy. This one is a bounty hunter.

Page 33
"'Beddy thinks it's a vampire." he said after a long burp. "I think she's read too many of those pulps, but near as we can tell, all of the blood's been drained from his body and there are a couple of small wounds on his neck - puncture-like, you know."
"Pulps" - comics, novels, magazines who knows, but it shows that fiction exists on Necromunda, at least of some kind. Which means that entertainment other than PRAISE THE EMPEROR and working your ass off also exists. probably not much access to 'Attack Run' here, though.

Page 34
"It was stuffed into the power pipes - not the ones running from the Hole over to the machine shop - the main lines hung from the ceiling of the dome."
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"You mean the pipes nobody's ever scavenged because they're too high up?"
..
"Lucky he was wearing his body suit, or his body would have got crushed when he fell."
Referring to Bester's battle suit from the beginning of the book. The guy's body fell from a great height but was not crushed due to the suit, suggesting it has some interesitng means of protecting against collisions/impact/blunt trauma.

Page 34
That city was dimly lit compared to the golden splendour of the Spire, but it had power enough for luxuries like light and heat. In the Underhive, there was precious little power for anything.
Spire vs Hive City vs Underhive. Hive city is where most of the workers and labourers work (factory, etc.) Not exactly 'middle class' per se, but not quite space peasants either. One thing I always like about this series is the way it portrays the living conditions and enviorment outside of a war setting. Like with Eisenhorn, we get a glimpse of the Imperium that isn't just WAR.


Page 35
A faint hiss from above alerted the crimelord to an incoming message. One of the most recent technologi­cal luxuries Nemo had installed in his subterranean base of operations was a message tube. Powering the tube had been easy; he simply tapped into the tube's power source. The logistics of keeping the tube a secret had been monumental, however. The Hive City end of his tube rotated to a different nexus after passing each message into his network. There were simply too many tube stations in the Hive for the authorities to check, so it was nearly impossible for them to track the tubes back to his base.

Once he had connected to the tube network, a well-trained, highly intelligent rat had been fed into the system that searched for the special capsules Nemo's associates had to use, and routed these capsules to his tube network. Nemo had considered using the rat to hunt down messages to or from important figures in the Hive, but had ultimately decided the security risk was too high. If someone ever suspected their messages were being hijacked, or found rat droppings in one of the capsules, the game would be up.
Nemo's message tube service. This suggests the entire hive is wired (tubed?) for such message traffic, which is.. interesting. Also trained hyper-intelligent rodents.

Page 37
He leaned out to see the settlement below with a pair of infrared goggles held up to his eyes in one hand. His other hand rested on the butt of the laspistol at his waist.
Kal using infrared goggles.

Page 40
Beddy Bor'Wick ran along a rooftop in a slight crouch, her pulse rifle cradled in her arms.
What exactly a 'pulse rifle' is in this context, I have no clue. I havea hard time believing a tau pulse rifle got ALL the way down in the Necromunda underhive though, much less that ammo for it could, so this must be some sort of locally produced (non STC?) weapon. some variation of a laser rifle perhaps, or maybe its a compact railgun! :P

Page 41
Beddy unhooked a grapnel shooter from her belt and took aim at the side of the shaft up as far as she could see. When she fired, the magnetic grapnel rock­eted toward the shaft, trailing a thin strand of monofilament from a spool attached to her belt. The wire cable was as light as string, but as strong as steel.

The grapnel was good for getting into hard-to-reach places, and the cable could also be used as a garrotte. Its versatility made the grapnel Beddy's favourite piece of equipment.
Monofilament wire for climbing and garrotting.

Page 42
Beddy took a moment to don a nightvision visor, pulling it down past her tightly-curled, wiry, black hair. The shaft continued on into the darkness, well past the limits of her visor.
Like Bester, this Bounty Hunter also has night vision gear.

Page 42
She raised her rifle to shoot, but the figure jerked the line, and whipped a loop around Beddy's neck. The loop snapped tight, slicing through leather, skin and bone like scissors through paper.
Effect of monofilament wire in 'garrot' mode. Actually manages to sever the head as we learn later.

Page 46
"Kal? What is 'Plan W'?"

Kal sighed, thinking about all the bounty that had disappeared with a bang. "The W stands for wing it, Scabbs."

"Then why do we use it so often?"

Kal looked at the crushed remains of Svend Gunderson. "Because nothing else works quite so well."
The Kal Jerico 'Plan W' defined. Forms the cornerstone of the way he works in the comics, and the bulk of the novels.

Page 49
Scabbs picked through pieces on the ground. The cas­ing had cracked open, revealing circuit boards, miniaturized motors and gears, and two curved pieces of glass that apparently once moved up and down the barrel. On the back end, above the handle, was what looked like the smashed remnants of a tiny pict screen.

"Spy camera" said Kal. He ground his boot into the circuit boards, catching one of Scabbs's fingers under his heel. "See that metal rod at the top?" Scabbs nodded as he sucked on his finger.

"An antenna. Somebody was watching us. Spying on us!"
One of Nemo's spy cams. Of the non-servo skull variety. Circuit boards galore.

Page 50-51
"No, I mean this is Nemo's gadget." said Scabbs. "I recognise the imprint pattern on these circuit boards. Only Nemo uses anything this sophisticated downhive."

"He could have been outfitted by one of the Noble Houses." said Yolanda as she stuck the ganger's weapon in an extra holster. "Most of his other gear is pretty stan­dard Hive City issue."
Nemo uses distinctive and more sophisticated tech than underhivers.

Page 54
Themis was busy rebuilding her weapon, and the gang leader watched with awe as her second-in-command snapped pieces together with almost unnatural speed and precision. After a few sec­onds, the heavy stubber sat gleaming on the table. Themis picked up the large weapon and spun it twice in her hands before slinging it through the chain hanging at her side.
Heavy stubber wielding Escher. Technically a 'heavy' I think. Although as we know stubbers aren't all 'Ma Deuce' duplicates anymore (if they ever were.)

Page 62
Yolanda's laspistol blast echoed in the empty streets. A shape dropped from the conduit above her. When it hit the street in front of her, something rolled off into the ever-present rabble. The object at her feet was about a metre long, brown, furry, and headless. Bare patches of skin dotted the body, showing old sores from battles and diseases that had never quite healed over.
It was a rat. She'd been startled by a lousy Hive rat.

..
Yolanda kicked the headless rat into the rubble. That's when she saw it. The head. But it wasn't the rat's head. She'd blasted that clean away.
Yolanda's laspistol shot blows the head off a rat. Between this and Junktion, I'd wager we're talking rat heads in and around the size of a fist, although this one seems a bit larger, so I'd put it somehwere in the double digit kilojoule range depending exactly on how it was blown off (raking/cutting beam, burned off, or blown off by explosive blast?)

The fact it doesn't seem to be bleeding is suggestive, anyhow. worth at least a few kj to cauterize the stumps (assuming ~3rd degree flash burns - call it 4-7 kj.)

Page 63
Yolanda examined the head to see if she could figure out what had happened to her fellow bounty hunter. The skull seemed to be intact, and what was left of the skin had no burn holes or scorch marks. Beddy could have been shot in the torso and her head severed after­ward.

..

The cut was clean, but it hadn't been cauterised. So, not a laspistol, power sword or laser scalpel. The cut was too clean for a chainsword, though. And who, or what, would have the strength to make such a clean cut with only the strength of their bare hands behind the blow?
The monowire decapitated bounty hunter. Interesting here is that laspistols can cauterize, and seemingly exhibit some sort of 'cutting/slicing' effect (making a 'clean' cut not unlike a power sword or laser scalpel.) Interesting also that a laser scalpel could be modified to sever a head. Also power swords cauterize. Assuming 50-100 j per sq cm and 10x10 cm area for both parts of the head.. we're talking at least 10-20 kj for the power sword, or a laspistol, although we dont know how long or how many shots, although its implied to be fairly short duration for the swords and scalpel so I'd assume the same for the laspistol.



Page 66
It simply passed through to your lungs with just the barest whis­per of pine dew. Of course, the air was thinner. He was, after all, about ten miles higher within the Hive than when he went to sleep.
Kal is 10miles up than he usually is. This suggests Kal nromally occupies the uppermost levels of the Underhive (about where Junktion and such sit.)

Page 67
"Where is Jerico?" asked Nemo through the radio his men had so graciously implanted in the snitch's eardrum.

A subvocal transmitter attached to his vocal cords was obviously broadcasting everything he said back to the spymaster.
Nemo implants one of his 'agents' with subvocal (implanted) transmitter and receiver, which are hidden from the naked eeye.

Page 69
Derindi wrapped his legs around the pipe and opened the pack. Inside was a pict camera with an attached antenna, a grapnel, a needle gun and a pair of goggles. He slipped the goggles on and flipped them to nightvision.
Nemo's agent's gear. Again hinting at the commonality of night vision gear on Necromunda.
Page 69
The vampire was said to be three metres tall and as broad as a Goliath. It would never fit inside the pipe. Halfway back, something banged on the end of the pipe behind him.
Implies that the Spyrer-vampire is 3m tall. Important later on.

Page 70
the door was locked and outside the window was a ten mile drop to the base of the Hive.
Again Kal is 10 miles up.

Page 77
Helmawr looked like a man of fifty, with a thick shock of silver hair and chiselled features that reminded Kal of his own face. Of course, Jerico knew that the Lord of the Spire must be well over two hundred years old. The body had held up well. Too bad about his mind, though.
Helmwar's appearance vs his estimated age. Seems that while the body can remain young, there may be drawbacks or limits for the mind. At least there are in Helmawr's case.

Page 83
"House Helmawr is at a critical juncture. Our lord's mind is failing. That much is obvious. I do not know how much longer we can hold his leadership together. And when he falls, he may well take the entire house down with him."
..

"There are simply too many heirs. After two hundred years, the old man is still siring possible successors. The power struggle will make the last House war look like a gang brawl. "
Helmawr remains virile even after 200 years or more, which creates problems for the house as a whole once he is killed or kicks the bucket.

Page 85
The voice sounded mechanical, a by-product of the encryption and decryption necessary to get vocal infor­mation out of the Spire without detection.
Nemo uses encryption to secure his comms within the Spire against detection.

PAge 85
Grunn and Thag trudged across the White Wastes on their way toward Hive City. Both Goliaths carried twin hundred gallon cisterns of slime that swayed back and forth on great yokes slung across their shoulders.
assuming the 'slime' has a density somewhere between water and mud here, we might be talking each Goliath carrying 200 gallons (760 liters per Goliath, which translates to between 760-1400 kg roughly each.) Which is even more impressive because they're hauling it over long distances across their shoulders (which includes the weight of the harness)

Page 86
. The Wastes were a huge void inside the Hive between countless different domes. Dust had accumulated for centuries, blown into the void along with ventilation exhaust from the sur­rounding domes. Beneath the dust could be found deposits of the valuable green slime. A few hardy indi­viduals, like the Goliaths, lived in the Wastes as slime farmers.

Goliaths were seen as barbaric, even amongst the residents of Hive City who toiled amidst harmful chemicals, dirty water, and poorly recycled air. The Goliaths survived on the periphery of this harsh world, in the deepest and most toxic regions, performing gru­elling tasks no other Hivers could or wished to perform.

For all this, they had grown larger, stronger and meaner. The toxins in the air and the sludge they har­vested had killed all but the hardiest amongst them and today they were giants, and practically revelled in their role as the grunt workers upon whose backs the mighty Hive had been built.

Grunn and Thag, though, were an oddity even amongst House Goliath. They had turned their backs on the mines and slag pits to live and work in the Wastes as slime farmers. Thag, a large brute of a ganger in his youth, had risen quickly in the ranks of the Sligan gang. Using his heavy stubber, he'd demolished entire raiding parties..
Goliath activities in the underhive - farming, mining, and such.

Also another goliath with a heavy stubber.

Page 86-87
Through Uglar's treachery, Thag found himself with a bounty on his head and was sold into the pits where he was forced to fight for his freedom. There he met and fell in love with Grunn.
..
..Grunn dropped her cisterns onto the white dust, ripped the inch-thick chain from the yoke, and began swinging it over her head.
Goliath can fall in love, and there are even female giantesses amongst them.

Page 87
Thag whipped his shoulders around to launch one of the cisterns off the end of the yoke into the air toward the descending attacker.
EVen more impressive display of strength. Recall that each of those is going to weigh close to (or over) half a ton.

Page 88
...the incoming attacker was nearly as tall as the Goliath and powerfully built.
Spyrer nearly as tall as goliath. Remember that they think the Spyrer is 3 m tall, which means that the Golatih is probably well over 2 metres tall and perhaps close to 3. AT the very least he's space Marine sized/proportioned.

Page 88
[quoteThag swung his axe across and down as the attacker moved in, trying to cut off the beast's angle of attack, but it simply ploughed through the Goliath's weapon, taking the curved edge of the axe against its chest. Thag's arms quivered as the axe bounced off the armoured plates[/quote]

- Axe swung by the aforementioned goliath does no appreciable damage to the vampire's body armor. Again considering the implied strength of these guys..

Page 91
But Kal had to admit the view was amazing. It was one thing to bask in the sun's rays with the walls of the Palace around you and the entire Spire beneath your feet. It was an entirely different matter to be in the sun­shine looking back at the ten-mile tall conical Hive; to know that there was nothing between you and the ground but air, clouds, and a three-mile thick layer of noxious fumes.

The Hive wasn't exactly beautiful, though. It was sim­ply impressive. Some effort had been made to make the exterior visually pleasing, certainly. Towers were attached here and there, complete with ramparts. Huge balconies stretched around the cone in places, over­looking the clouds. But the sheer size of the Hive itself dwarfed such architectural embellishments. They might have been impressive up close, perhaps even beautiful, but the ten-mile-high cone that seemed to float on a sea of clouds simply dominated the scene.
Kal viewing the exterior of the Hive.

Page 93
"Sure, I'll take Dad's money, and if that means I have to live up there for a year, so be it, but I can then take that hundred grand stipend and live out the rest of my life where you know who your enemies are because they're pointing a gun at your head."

"Sounds lonely"
"No. I've got friends, and I can always buy love, or at least rent it." said Kal with a smirk. He stopped and shook his head. "No. Lonely is sitting in a dark room surrounded by advisors you can't trust and family who all want you dead."
Kal's reasons for living in the Underhive. It really highlights the differences between life uphive and downhive, and it also echoes alot of Donna Ulanti's own reasons for her flight.

Page 94
"I'll take my reward for turning on my brother, and then turn tail and do what I always do when the going gets tough..."

Valtin gave him a blank look.

"Hide, nephew, hide."
...
"If a scribe gets fired or leaves the house for any reason, we have standing orders to shoot them. They will go to any lengths to keep Grand­father's failing mental abilities a secret."
Again differences betwen uphive and downhive. One thing about this novel is that it likes to underscore that the wealth and power of the uphive actually is not all that desierable.. its a trap of sorts, and the costs it carries, the things it does to people, make it one that some people (like Kal and Yolanda) refuse to pay. Indeed, Armand.. the 'Vampire' is rebelling against that uphive crap but he does so in a different way as we learn.

Page 95
The Dusty Hole was usually full of ratskin scouts for hire. They led gangs over the Falls on the one-mile trip down to the Hive Bottom.
The bottommost (accessible) part of the Hive is a mile belowground.

Page 96
A five-member Spyrer team, decked out in their impressive mechanical rigs, marched down die street. The looked more like robots than men in their power armour. These were noble-born gangers wearing the lat­est and greatest innovations in armour, with weapons you'd normally expect to see mounted on a tank attached to their arms and backs.
Spyrers dispatched to deal with armand and recover the chamberlains brain. Implied to be packing tank grade weaponry. Also interesting that Spyrer armour is implied to be wearing 'armour innovations', suggesting the Imperium engages in (commerical?) R&D for spyrer armour at least. Which is a different perspective than the idea they get it from the tau, at least....

Page 97
Ginger cocked her grenade launcher and pumped a couple of plasma grenades down the street.

Lysanne knew their weapons would have little effect against the heavily armoured Spyrers, but they might distract them just long enough, if she was quick. She sprinted back into the street, dived and rolled up next to Tay.
Other weapons included a flamethrower and laspistols, and a plasma pistol, which says something about the Spyrer armour.

Also grenade launcher with plasma grenades.

Page 97
She didn't know what to make of that until he pointed the shield at her and the plasma bolt streamed back at her. Lysanne threw her arms up, but a jet of flame from Jenna inter­cepted the plasma, which exploded between Lysanne and the Spyrers.
Plasma bolt detonated by flamethrower. That would suggest its something other than a particle beam.

PAge 99
She'd stopped squirming but looked horribly frightened. Lysanne couldn't do anything but watch. "It's supposed to be huge. Three metres tall. And it can fly. And it sucks blood. I don't know what you want!"
Again the Spyrer's supposed height.


Page 101
He was almost freakishly tall, especially compared to Bobo's one-point-five metre frame, wore rumpled..
Bobo's height.


PAge 102
It took a few minutes to set up a secure line. Bobo opened the case that Jenn kept for him and had placed under the bed before he arrived. Inside was a portable jammer that would shield the room and a closed-circuit pict-caller. With the click of a button, a tripod extended from the bottom of the case. He set it in the middle of the room and placed the jammer on top. When Bobo turned on the device, he could feel his short, stringy hair stand up as the power field ionised the air. No matter what he thought of House van Saar, he couldn't help but be impressed by their technology, especially when he hadn't actually paid for it.

He took the pict-caller over to the bed and opened a hidden panel in the wall behind the headboard. Inside was a conduit that had been cut open to expose the copper wire inside. It took just fifteen seconds to splice the device into the wiring. Bobo always timed it. He pressed a familiar series of buttons on the pict-caller, activated his personal encryption key, and then retired to his chair to keep one eye on Dutt while he waited.
More Van-Saar comms tech, custom made for spies. Probably relies more on the communications relays and circuits built into the hive than anything though to work.

Page 107
To the right was the sharp stench of spoiled meat coming from the Cawdor warehouse. To the left he got a thick, oily whiff of petrol from the fuel station and straight ahead was Hive City itself, with all those odours plus the bitter smell of Wildsnake and the pungent musk emanating from Madam Noritake's.
..
He was nearly home. So Hive City was quite the tumultuous life-in-your-own-hands place that the Underhive was, but he found it a damn sight more palatable than the Spire, all the same.
Kal Jerico's view of Hive City, vs the Underhive. Note the petrol station. I'm pretty sure importing gasoline/diesel/promethium/any fucking fossil fuels would be costly, so where do they get it? do they make their own (biofuels mayhap?) or is there something else?

Page 107-108
"Welcome to Hive City."
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"but it's not nearly as bad as I imagined."
...
The two left the dock area and walked down a short street between squat, square buildings made of grey stone and metal. Variety, colour, and ornamentation were nowhere to be seen down here. Down in the real Hive, practicality and functionality were all that mattered.
...
"This isn't the Underhive."
"What's the difference?"
...
"...most of the buildings are still standing and occupied. For another thing, the air gets recycled once in a while and you can find your way around without a flashlight, assuming we knew where we were going. Plus you can walk for blocks without a gang war erupt­ing around you. There are laws here against that sort of thing."

"Not so in the Underhive?"

"The only law in the Underhive is the kind you carry strapped to your waist."
Hive city vs Underhive, Kal Jerico version. Which I don't find quite true. Some regions (or settlements) can enforce their own laws, as can the Guilders or other factions. I think what it ultimately means is that laws are defined by those who have the power to enforce them on others.

Still that Hive City is dominated by predictability and order (of a sort) vs lawlessness and freedom is pretty common as far as the Necromunda game goes.

Page 113
Wotan was easily a metre tall at the shoulders and almost two metres long from the point of his metal teeth to the tip of his tail. His head had been moulded to resemble a real dog with ears that stood up and a little bulb of a nose on the end of his snout. But he was all metal, with extra plating at the shoulders and joints, and long metal spikes for claws.
Wotan, Jericho's cyber-mastiff. The origins behind how and why Kal has him is never said in the series.

Page 113
Fewell was a mountain of a man. He stood well over two metres tall and had a broad chest to match, but his comically oversized head seemed all the bigger thanks to his short-cropped, sandy hair and smooth chin.
Yet another two metre tall guy, this one an armourer in Hive City.

Page 117
Squatz's life was finally getting back to normal after that trouble a few months back. His bar, The Breath of Fresh Air, had been home territory to no less than three gangs. It was a sort of neutral ground where all the gangers could enjoy a drop of Wildsnake or his House Special along with the freshest air for miles around, thanks to the huge fan at the junction of no less than three ventilation shafts that sat above the square outside his door.

But then a strange little man came through looking for some lost bit of archeotech, sparking a gang war the likes of which Hive City had not seen in generations. Sure, the Fresh Air was situated amongst the lowest lev­els of the city, but this wasn't the Underhive, and the rule of law still applied. At least that's what Squatz had thought, but even the enforcers had proved powerless to stop this particular turf war and before you could say 'Did you spill my Wildsnake?' pretty much all his regu­lars were dead.
- interesting note here is that the bar mentioned, the Breath of Fresh Aire, also appared in the novel Salvation. A bit of continuity, evne if it was with a CS Goto novel. Earlier when Thrag and Grunn are mentioned Uglar is also mentioned which is from that same novel. This also means that the Jerico stories take place a bit after the events in Salvation, for whatever good that is.


Page 118
Squatz stood on the plank behind the bar and watched them while cleaning glasses. He was a short man with only one eye. Some people might call him a dwarf. Those people wouldn't live to apologise. He scratched at the patch over his empty eye socket. He hated wearing it, but Quill had made it very clear that he had no alternative.
Squatz was also from that Salvation novel, which I still believe is meant to be a joke about the Squats.


Page 119
Squatz arrived just in time to see a huge beast of a man, with wild tangles of hair streaming around his face, land in the middle of Quill's men. He towered over the Van Saar gang, his huge black shoulders reaching the top of their heads. And there were tubes coming out of his chest and arms that snaked their way over his shoulders.
The spyrer-vampire. Remember, he's supposed to be 3 metres or so tall, which suggests the Van Saar gangers are close to or over 2 metres tall themselves.
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Part 2

Page 119-120
One of the gangers at the door got off a plasma bolt shot. It exploded on the vam­pire's chest. When the flames died away, Squatz could see that the explosion had done nothing more than chip away at one of the black plates on the armour.

The vampire swung a huge fist at the ganger, hitting and shattering the plasma gun. The resulting explosion knocked Squatz to the floor. When he got back up, the vampire was moving away. The two gangers lay in a bloody heap outside his door. The rest of Quill's gang opened fire from around the square. Laser blasts, shot­gun rounds, and stubber shots all rebounded off the armour, doing little or no damage.
Plasma bolt vs Spyrer rig. Minimal damage. This actually suggests Spyrer armour is perhaps tougher than Space Marine armour, although it could also mean Necromundan plasma weapons are weaker than the IG/Marine plasma weapons.

Page 120
One of the Van Saar, a tall, bull-headed ganger named Domerud, stood his ground on the other side of the square, unloading clip after clip from his autogun in rapid fire that bounced off the vampire's armour. With blinding speed, the vampire sprinted across to Domerud and grabbed the weapon from his hand. The vampire spun the weapon around, jammed the barrel through Domerud's sternum and pulled the trigger.

The resulting spray of bullets shot clean out of Dom's back and took down two gangers stood behind him.
Penetration implied by autogun rounds.

Page 120-121
Quill stood his ground, aimed his heavy plasma gun at the vampire, and fired.

Squatz gave him credit. The gang leader must have known what would happen, but had obviously decided in that split second that it was the only way to save the rest of his gang. The explosion engulfed both the vam­pire and Quill in fire and black smoke that roiled up toward the roof of the square in a billowing cloud. That ought to alert the enforcers, thought Squatz. Not that they could do anything about the rampaging vampire. Enforcers would be no match for a Spyrer.

The huge fan that gave the Fresh Air its name dis­persed the smoke after a few moments. Quill's body lay in a charred heap on the ground, but the vampire was still standing. He wasn't moving; just standing and per­haps swaying a little. Squatz wondered if the gang leader had succeeded where all others had failed. Then the vampire turned. Squatz could see a small hole in his rig where a chunk of armour plate had been blown off, but that was the sum total of Quill's sacrificial act.
'heavy plasma gun' vs Spyrer. Assuming the guy was badly burned (call it between 100-1000 J per sq cm) and an omnidirectional blast we're talking 1-10 MJ delivered both to Armand, and another 1-10 MJ to Quill, which suggests 2-20 MJ at least for the heavy plasma gun.

Page 121
Hauk, Quill's second-in-command, an imposing fig­ure standing well over two metres tall and broad across the chest, called for a retreat.
Yet another two metre tall guy. This suggests Armand is at least 2.2-2.5m tall (and reinforces that Thag is close to the size of an Astartes.)

Page 121
The juves both fired laser blasts that hit the vampire in the head. The shots seemed to get absorbed by the mirrored material, and then red beams shot out from the eyes, burning both juves on the spot.
Another useful feature of Armand's Spyrer armour, it can absorb and reflect laser blasts like the the shield the Jakara rigs have. Seems that only the head armour region has this ability, though.


Page 122
He could live on synthnuts and House Special if he had to...
Synthnuts. As we go through the series it seems that alot of the food stock that exists in necromunda is synthetic. Probably made off fungus/algae/slime and the related farms. Although as we know they do have real meat.


PAge 126
The whistling was the sound a monofila­ment sword made as it ripped through the atoms of the air and pretty much any object in its path
Jakara Mono swords cut air it seems :P I wonder if this is more an indication that the weapon uses a power field rather than its material composition/inherent sharpness.

Page 127
The Wastes were inside the Hive, but the strange ventilation-spawned wind patterns from the surrounding domes that had brought the dust to this area in the first place, also produced dunes that looked almost natural.
Desert like enviroment inside the hive. Probably includes dusts from the Ash Wastes.

Page 128
As the Wildcats reached the top of the dune behind her, Yolanda fired two blasts that slammed into the hive dust, melting it into slag under Vicksen's feet.
Assuming something like loose dirt or sand(1200-1500 kg*m/s), and a 10-15 cm diameter area melted (several cm deep) we're talking at least .2-.3 kg to .8-1 kg melted. Assuming around 1.9 MJ per kg to melt either (silicon) we're talking 380-570 kj to 1.5-1.9 MJ for two blasts.

On the other hand if we assume only a 2-3 cm diameter hole melted we're talking 3-11 grams melted, which is 6-20 kj roughly.

Page 129
The sword was a jet-black katana. Its metal reflected the pale, blue light emanating from the rafters above the Wastes, giving it a eerie green shine.
Yolanda's katana.

Page 131
He opened up and reached inside with two fingers and his thumb. The fingers twisted slightly, and Bobo could swear he heard something click. When he brought his fingers back out, he was holding a tooth.
...
"Nemo's subvocal implant. It transmits everything I say right back to Nemo. I had it modified, so I could remove it whenever I want"
Tooth implant containing vox. increidble miniaturization even if its just a one way setup, methinks.

PAge 143
"What's the matter with you, Jonas?" said Kauderer. "What are you, some kind of Green Hunter? Your rigs have been configured for this mission, and this mission alone. You might lack some of your customary power boosts, but I'm sure you'll find the preparations I ordered have made your devices rather more flexible, than usual"
reference to spyrer 'power boosts' which are adaptive elements to the hunting Rigs that enhance performance over time as they 'gain experience'. This seems to suggest hunting rigs can be customized for various reasons.


Page 146
Themis opened fire with her heavy stubber. The recoil made the chains hanging from the epaulets on her shoulders rattle, but the hail of bullets had little effect on the vampire.
Heavy stubber firing, does little good to spyrer rig.

Page 146-147
The Escher leader didn't think a single grenade would even faze the beast. She looked at Themis, about to argue, but saw that her second in command had unslung one of her chains and looped the end around her heavy stubber. Vicksen understood. She pulled a grenade off her vest and waited for Themis.

Themis swung the cannon around her head at the end of the chain once and then let it fly. Vicksen took aim and tossed the grenade, and then ran toward little Lysanne. Both weapons hit the vampire's chest at the same time. As the grenade exploded, Vicksen jumped toward Lysanne, hitting her and pushing her to the ground.

A huge fireball erupted behind the two Escher women and bullets ricocheted around the courtyard as the heavy stubber's ammo ignited. Vicksen held onto Lysanne as the two of them rolled away from the explo­sion.

When the smoke cleared, the vampire was still stand­ing, but Vicksen could swear the fire in its eyes had dimmed a little, and it wasn't moving - for the moment.
Grenade + stubber explosion. Still does very little to Spyrer rig.

Page 148-149
She pulled out the new laspistol Themis had given her earlier that day.
...
The shot hit, but it didn't penetrate and didn't bounce off the mirrored surface either. It just seemed to get absorbed. She'd seen the same thing happen with the Spyrers at Dust Falls. She knew what was going to hap­pen next.

"Duck!" yelled Lysanne
...

Vicksen dove to the side just as the vampire's red eyes emitted a laser blast at the Wildcat leader. The blast burned a ten-centimetre hole through the thick metal plates that made up the ground in the courtyard. That could have been Vicksen's head, thought Lysanne. Or mine!
Armand's Rig's absorption/redirection mechanism in action again. We dont know what kind of metal it is, but thasta big hole. Using the Death Ray calculator again and somehwere between copper and armour steel we could get anywhere from 100 kj to 600 kj, which is quite a range.

There is some question whether the rig just absorbs and retransmits the energy back, or if it adds some extra power to the shot (given hints later), but its open ended. At the very least I'd say its reaonable to assume double if not triple digit kj per shot, at least from this particular laspistol. It's also possible that variable setting sare involved (this is max power shots rather than lower power ones.

It also implies the blast would have blown apart/off/demolished a human head, which is at least high single/low double digit kj again.

Page 149-150
Hatred and vengeance surged inside Lysanne as she saw Ashya's killer, but she knew her little laspistol was no match for Spyrer armour. She needed something more powerful.
...
As she ran, Lysanne shot several laser blasts at the vam­pire's head. The black, mirrored surface drank in the power. The eyes flashed and Lysanne jumped high into the air.

The first blast hit the ground behind her. The second sizzled through the air just behind her as she reached the top of her arc. The laser beam burned a hole in the Wildcat's fluttering black top, before continuing on through the air, right into the body of the flying Spyrer.

Lysanne landed hard and her ankle crumpled under her as she fell to the ground in a heap. She looked up just in time to see the Spyrer, a hole burned clean through her chest, falling to the ground as well. But her moment of victory was short-lived. She could hear the vampire moving up behind her.
Again this would put the previous calc into some.. interesting perspective as it implies that the 'reflected' blasts are more powerful than a single laspistol shot. This could indicate that Armand's suit adds power to the blast, or it may mean that the suit absorbed several shots from Lysann's pistol and combined it into a single blast that was delivered far more effectively than the laspistol could (more tightly focused, or discharged in a way that has greater penetration/effect against Spyrer armor.) It could go either way, although I'd note that what we learn of Armand's spyrer pack later suggests it probably does not have a hugetastic energy storage capacity, and amping up shots on itsown would probably drain it rapidly.


Page 154
..Yolanda followed close behind him, using the black-mirrored surface of her re-acquired katana to ward off incoming laser blasts.
Yolanda can reflect lasblasts on her katana. This actually speaks mroe to her reflexes and ability to react to enemies she sees rather than an ability to out-react lasfire (we know in the series lasbolts are speed-of-light, but she isn't able to move that fast. So she's out-reacting the people shooting at her and positioning well.) enhanced reflexes (or even a touch of the wyrd) coudl explain this easily.

Page 155
"Neat device, huh?" asked Valtin. "A small magnetic field drains the nearest power cell. You're under your own power now, uncle!" Valtin pulled out a power maul and slammed it into Armand's shoulder, caus­ing the screaming Helmawr to drop his Wildcat hostage.
Power cell drainer. Given that the power has to discharge somehow - most probably into the enviroment, it puts some definite limits on Spyrer power armour cell capacities. I doubt we're dumping massive amounts of megajoules into the enviroment and not burning people, for example.. but then again ti also depends on what form that energy gets discharged as (Which we dont know)

Note the power maul is able to do some very effective damage to the suit once it is disabled. That might suggest the suit (or suits) rely on some force field effect (above and beyond what the Orrus Rig has) to provide defense.

Page 157
He glanced at Yolanda, who was taking on the brute with the grenade launcher. She'd cut off the end of his weapon with her katana and the muscle-bound Spyrer had dropped it in favour of a power axe. Kal didn't know what bothered him more: how Yolanda got her sword so sharp or where these Spyrers had gotten such good weapons.
Yolanda's katana cut through a grenade launcher, speaking of some extreme sharpness.

Page 158-159
The Wildcat leader made a snap decision and fired her plasma pistol at the brute. A ball of highly charged plasma slammed into the Spyrer's back and exploded, sending both combatants sprawling to the ground.

Vicksen was mildly upset that the blast hadn't killed the Spyrer, but there would be plenty of time for that later. His armour lay in pieces and the power axe had gone flying out of his grasp.
Spyrer outside of hunting rig (I think) or at elast in an unpowered rig survives a plasma pistol shot, albeit just barely.

Page 159-160
The younger Helmawr raised his power maul over his head and slammed it down on top of Armand's helmet. The mirrored dome cracked slightly. He brought the maul around for another blow, but Armand was able to turn enough that the weapon just glanced off the side of his head, ripping out several of his feeding tubes.

Armand turned his torso and swung his arms around in a slow arc. Valtin easily stepped back out of reach. Then, ducking under the massive arms of the vampire rig, he swung the maul. Blue energy swirled around the legs of the power suit as the maul struck, chipping and breaking the interlocking plates of armour. Armand's knees buckled and he fell to the ground.
...
He slammed the maul down on Armand's chest. The power coursed through the armour, cracking several more metal plates.
..
Valtin could see the hole in the armour from Armand's earlier battle in the courtyard. He aimed his next shot at that weak point.
..
He swung the maul down toward the tiny hole in Armand's armour, but the weapon was halted in mid-swing. Valtin looked down. Armand had grabbed hold of the shaft with one hand. The arm of his rig coursed with energy from the maul.
..
"By the way, thank you for the bor­rowed power."
Armand's suit takes damage from Valtin's power maul unpowered, but Armand displays an ability to absorb not just laser fire - grippig the maul allows him to drain energy out of the maul itself to provide a temporary power boost.


Page 168-169
"You talk nobly, Jerico, but we all know why you're doing this - bounty, pure and sim­ple. Helmawr is paying you handsomely to retrieve the item Armand stole, and you're planning to use us to help make you rich"

"That was true up until about ten minutes ago." said Kal. "But then I saw my nephew pay the price for doing the job I should have been doing." He tossed his weapons on the table and began pacing. "I have family I never even knew about. You're my cousin or nephew as well, as are these two, I guess."

Jonas nodded.

"Well, family never really meant much to me. My mother abandoned me when I was just a baby and it wasn't until a couple of years ago that I found out that Lord Helmawr was my father. Scabbs and Yolanda are the closest I had to family and we take care of each other. Well, now it's time for me to take care of my real family. I'm going to save Valtin, and when we find Armand, you can take the item back to Helmawr. That was your mission, anyway wasn't it? The old man is good at covering his bases, huh?"
One presumes Kal is being both serious and honest here, and showing that he's more of a Han Solo type rogue - he has standards of a sort, and he cares about people, but he does so on his terms. We see glimpses of this character again in Cardinal Crimson, but I think it was better handled than in this case, although Kal's nobility is pretty well handled here.


Page 169
Jonas motioned to Leoni, who produced the medi-pack from her gear. She set it up on the table and began scanning Lysanne's ankle. Lysanne glared at the Spyrer, but with Themis supporting her she relaxed and let Leoni do her work.
Spyrer medi pack.

Page 175
Scabbs was fairly certain it was part of Armand's Spyrer rig, but it almost looked like a large fish scale. It was rounded and bulged in the middle. Part of it was scorched and there was hole the size of a credit chip in the middle. He turned it over and found blood smeared on the inside.
Part of the armour off the Spyrer rig. I dont remember how it was blasted off, either from the plasma shots or from the exploding stubber/grenade.

Page 178-179
Yolanda was amazed at how comfortable she felt in the Spyrer rig. She had expected to feel claustrophobic and clumsy in the metal suit, but it felt no more binding than a tight set of clothes, which she was quite used to wearing. The rig's hydraulics responded to her muscle commands as well as, if not better than, her own arms and legs.

Ordinarily, no mere Hiver could wear a Spyrer rig. Each was carefully crafted to match its wearer's own size and requirements, and its operation was based on a variety of control systems so sensitive that only its orig­inal occupant could stand any chance of figuring them out. Still, Yolanda was no mere Hiver. She had once been a Catallus, not that she considered herself such anymore. Nonetheless, she had in her youth been fitted for a Spyrer herself and, more importantly, had received the basic subcutaneous grafts. Perhaps it was this prepa­ration that now paid off unexpectedly.
Yolanda using a Spyrer rig. The comparisons between this and Astartes power armour are pretty obvious.

Additionally an explanation of just why nobles can only use spyrer rigs (technically speaking). Interesting thing is, although it seems you need implants to use it (and that each suit is customized to the wearer) Lysanne ends up using the same rig in the second book. So its not strictly true that a Spyrer noble alone can wear it, but its possible that only they can use it most effectively. Or it may be an error.

Page 181
"Is there a torch on this rig anywhere?" asked Yolanda. She leaned out a little to get a better look.

"No," replied Leoni. "But I've got photo contacts. What do you see?"
- Spyrer rigs don't seem to come with night vision or infrared capability built in, but the spyrers can wear visors or contacts with such capabilities inside.

Page 183
Drained the cell. He looked at the drained power maul. "Lysanne, this is important. Did you ever see the vampire absorb any­thing?"

"Absorb?"

"You know, suck up - not like blood - power, energy."

She nodded her head, excitedly. "Yes. Yes. That's how I killed that flying Spyrer. I shot the vampire and he reflected the blast at her. It was cool!"
reference to Armand 'absorbing' shit again.

Page 190-191
With his photo contacts, he could peer into the dimly lit bar well enough to see the bodies moving around the front room.
..
He refocused his photo con­tacts and took a closer look.
Photo contacts in operation (by Bobo.) Like visors, they can be focused/refocused.

Page 194
Tubes ran off the top and flopped around on the ground as Armand twisted it back and forth, as if look­ing for something. He finally found what he needed, and then grabbed a tool from a box at his feet. He worked the tool for several minutes and then dropped it back in the box and set the hunk of rig aside.

He came toward Valtin carrying a thick, grey disc about the size of a dinner plate. Valtin immediately recognised the object. It was the power cell for Armand's rig that he'd drained during the battle. Valtin pulled his knees up, hoping to get a chance to kick the cell out of Armand's hands, but his uncle never got that close.

He stopped at the edge of the lift, next to one of the work lamps. Casually, with the calm air that only the truly crazy attain, Armand yanked the lamp from its housing and tossed it over the edge of the lift, leaving nothing but bare wires. Valtin counted the time it took before the lamp hit bottom, but while he heard it bang against the walls, the clattering simply continued to grow fainter and fainter until he simply couldn't hear it anymore. It was a long way to the bottom.

Valtin looked back at Armand. It was hard to tell what he was doing now because of the missing light, but it seemed like he was trying to connect the live wires to the power cell. Valtin could see power jumping from the ends of the wires to Armand's fingertips, but there was no recognition of pain on his face. Once he finished hotwiring his power cell, Armand set it down on the handrail and turned to go back into the access tunnel.
Armand rigging up some means of recharging the Rig's power cell, which is thick (several cm thick perhaps ) and aorund 10-15 cm in diameter perhaps. Assuming 1-2kj per cubic cm we can get anywhere from a few hundred kj to several MJ at least of storage capacity, although it might be bigger. Either way it seems an interesting way to power rigs, givne limited fuel supplies. Do they recharge in the field? Recycle power from other sources?

If we go by weight (the thing is a bit heavy but not impossibly so) we might figure its 5-10 kg or so, which might point to a few MJ total as well (depending on the battery capacity.. I was going with my usual assumed sodium-sulfur pack.)

Then again given the 'energy absorbing' properties of Armands rig, its possible only his suit has this peculiar drawback, although the Jakara rig later on also has a power cell (Valtin's device works on it as well) so this might not be true. Jakara rigs have tha tshield, so its possible they migth be able to recharge on the fly as well.

Page 200
The entrances to these utility tunnels were hidden in the dark recesses of the sewers and locked at all times. Only maintenance workers were supposed to have access to the maze of tunnels, but maintenance person­nel are notoriously underpaid and easily bribed, so most bounty hunters and many of the more prominent gang leaders all had keys and had mapped out the sec­tions of the tunnels they used most often.
Underhive (or hive city) maintenance personnel. Again people get paid here!


Page 210-211
"How old do you think I am?"

"Forty." said Valtin. "Perhaps forty-five."

"Try doubling that." said Armand, still laughing, but then the laughter died off as the joke really was on him.

"I'll be ninety-two next month, if I can survive that long on the crap that passes for blood down here."

"How?"

"Rejuvenation therapy, of course, you idiot. How young are you anyway?" Armand didn't wait for an answer. "We are the wealthiest family on the planet. Don't you think we can afford to keep ourselves alive?" He stood and started pacing around the edge of the lift, his metal boots clanging on the mesh flooring. "Gene therapy, blood transfusions, organ replacements - you name it, I've had it. Father too, and even a few of his most trusted aides"
'Why?'
"To live forever, of course." said Armand. "To rule forever." He felt some of his mania returning and took a deep breath to calm his nervous metabolism."'Father is over four hundred years old, did you know that? He has ruled the family for centuries, ruled Hive Primus for centuries. And I am the heir apparent, so I get to live forever as well - or at least until father chooses another heir apparent. As long as I stay in the Spire, and don't piss off Father too much, I am immortal."
An interesting commentary on life extending technologies and how common they remain on Necromunda. Not only is it interesting that its implied that Helmwar. his closest aides, and Armand could live theoretically forever, but that the techniques are highly restricted to Helmwar's circle - it seems he exercises tight control over life extension technology.

That said, both Helmawr and Armand are not the most mentally stable individuals, so the theoretical immortality is not perfect by far. Reminds me of the AdMech - supposedly living thousands of years, but also going insane in the process.

Helmawr is also in his fifties and is over 400 years old, whilst Armand is in his forties and over ninety. Suggests Helmawr might live to be 800 if that scales peroperly, perhaps nearly 900, but probably not beyond that, even assuming he keeps his sanity.

I also have to wonder if one reason why 'really old' people (over 300-400 years old) are relatively uncommon even with rejuv. If your mind starts going at that point, I doubt many would be willing (ro capable) of enduring (or being allowed) further rejuvenation. It may also explain why some rejuvenation processes wiped the mind (Inquisition War) or were suppelmented with extensive augmentics (The Helmawr Chamberlain and the AdMech) - perhaps renewing the brain invariably requires complete loss of personality or memory? Likewise, cybernetic augmentations may help to preserve the brain somehow.


Page 211
"I might live forever, but I would end up dead inside, my life purchased on the blood, sweat and tears of others."
...
"Father calls me "troubled", but troubled isn't the half of it. I have seen the devil, Valtin. I see him every day in the mirror and I see him sitting on the throne of Hive Primus. We are tainted, Father and I. Our very blood is tainted by every foul act this family has performed in the name of power; in the name of eternity. There is no hell, you see. Just the Spire."
..
" My life is inextricably tied to the evil now. I can't last a day without a transfusion. I can't seem to last a scawing hour down here on the waste-polluted blood of these Hivers. But I can bring an end to the root of all evil, if I only have enough time."
Armand's reasons for his actions. As noble sounding as it is, his speech when talking to Kal kind of shoot holes in the purported nobility of his actions, especially his attitude towards underhivers. Of course 'blood sweat and tears' might refer to only people above the spire, rather than underhivers. It's rather interesting how much like a REdemptionist he sounds, all the talk of purity and purging sin through destruction.


Page 212
He held up the object to show Valtin. It was not much bigger than a grapefruit and slightly oblong, with a short tail coming off the narrow end.

...
"It's the Royal Chamberlain's brain."

"But it's mostly metal."
...

The brain was dull grey with an array of tiny steel wires poking out from all sides. The tail, the brain stem, was housed in an accordion-like, metal tube that twisted and turned like a snake. The stem ended in an intricate set of prongs. "This is just the housing, of course. What's left of old Stiv's brain, along with a series of cogitae valves, is held safely inside."

"The chamberlain was a servitor?"

"No, just mostly augmetic pieces after all these years." replied Armand. He held the brain in his palm and raised it up to his face, trying to imagine Stiv's face sur­rounding the five-pound hunk of metal and tissue.

"'Father once told me that Stiv had been with him from the beginning. The only aide he trusted with all of his secrets. And they are all in here. Every dirty deal he ever made. Every enemy - and quite a few "friends" of the family - he ever had killed. Every single credit he ever bilked from the other Houses and failed to report to the tax inspectors. It's all in here."
The chamberlain's augmetic brain. He is noted to have been with Helmawr "from the beginning" meaning hundreds of years years. It also weighs quite a bit more than a regular brain 2.3 kg as opposed to ~1.4 kg for a human brain. This might be useful as a comparison between a servitor and a human when it comes to headsploding stuff.

Page 214
The brute reacted, shooting a missile from his wrist, which exploded upon impact, blowing me dead Wild­cat's body apart. The other two Escher women screamed and readied their weapons. Cyklus re-aimed his wrist rockets. They were now aimed right at Valtin's head.
Orrus rig missile launchers inflicting grenade level damage. Basically glorified bolters in other examples, although its possible this mount actually is a missile launcher.

Page 215
Armand then rushed at Cyklus, who continued to fire missiles wildly. One of them exploded on Leoni's chest and another sent Yolanda diving for cover as Kal pulled his nephew into the tun­nel and propped him against the wall.

When the smoke cleared, Valtin could see that cousin Leoni's face and part of her skull had been destroyed by the blast
Orrus rig projectile effects again.

Page 216
Armand raised his hand over his head and brought a fist down toward Jonas's unprotected head. Jonas got his shield up just in time, but the shield was made to reflect energy attacks, not physical ones. The force of the blow crashed through the reflective crystals and shat­tered the shield around Jonas's forearm.
Jakara rig shields - not much use against the enhanced blows of other Rigs.

Page 222
Lysanne pulled open Themis's long, leather coat and saw the blood. Her vest was coated in red, the leather glistening in the lamplight. The tailfin of one of Cyklus's arm rockets stuck out a few centimetres, just below her left breast. It must have been a dud or the firing mecha­nism had jammed when it struck her ribs. Either way, it hadn't gone off.
The rockets from the Orrus rig. Penetrates without doing much kinetic damage it seems (at least its not blowing a huge hole in the body from impact) and actually seems more like a rocket than a bolt round. Tailfin as well as a nose cone. Also implied to be a good 15-20 cm long or so at least.

Page 223-224
"You're going to pay for Scabbs and everyone else you've murdered."

"Why do you care about them?" asked Armand. "They're insects compared to us. You have noble blood running through your veins, yet you choose to cavort with Hive trash."
...
"They're good, hard-working people." said Kal.
..
"Ha. They're hardly people at all." said Armand. His red eyes flared beneath the dome. "You forget. I've tasted them. The Hivers are fouled by pollution and waste."

"But they are proud of their heritage." said Kal. He found the hole. It was right over Armand's heart. In his vampire rig, Armand was at least a head taller than Kal and it would be a tough shot. Kal would only get one chance. He needed to keep his brother talking while he looked for the right opportunity to strike.

"They work hard to make the Hive what it is," he said. "Hivers live and die in the filth, always striving for a bet­ter life for themselves and their families. They are the true nobles. They have nobility of heart, and mind, and spirit. Not some worthless birthright and fancy armour."
Kal and Armand speak about underhivers. Again despite Armand's noble sounding words earlier, he's a massive hypocrite. He apparently doesn't think underhivers (and possibly hive city folk) are real people (or anything Helmawr or other Spire folk do as being really evil.) So evidently his speeches about all the evils his father have perpetuated applied solely to the Spire folk (eg the nobles and the well off.) The City houses and the Hive city folk (and the Underhivers) can all go to hell.

Kal, by contrast, is almost the opposite of Armand's distorted mindset. He holds the lower classes in far greater esteem and respect than he does the nobles, which matches basically everything he tells Valtin throughout this novel (the only noble he DOES seem to respect, at least in this book.) And it really reflects Kal's nature. Like Ciaphas Cain, he can be vain, greedy, and self-indulgent when it comes to his own pleasures, but he is a fundamentally decent person, and tends to view the vast majority of the people in the hive as being decent, respectable people. It can even explain why he is a bounty hunter - sure he does it for the money, but bounty hunting also makes him one of those who keep law and order in the underhive. Recall what he told Valtin - the only law and order is that which others impose through force. And Kal acts to impose that order by his own strength.

And the reasons WHY Kal likes those people is a massive blow against grimdark. Sure the situation is fucked up and horrible, violence and oppression and mundanity, but there is still that element of hope that, one day, something might be better at least for some people. For me, those little sparks of hope in all the darkness really are what make any sort of 'dark' aspects of 40K effective. You need the hope as much as the depsair - if there is nothing but bleak despair, ti gets repetitive and ineffectual.


Page 225
Lysanne gritted her teeth as she pressed the tip of the dagger against Themis's skin. She knew what she had to do, and Themis had little time left. She pushed the dag­ger into the skin next to the protruding tailfin and cut through to the ribs. Dropping the knife, she pushed her hand through the enlarged hole and felt around inside the elder Escher's chest cavity for the tip of the missile. Before starting, she had ripped off the hem of her black robes. She took a piece of the cloth and packed it in around the wound to hold back the bleeding. Her probing fingers found the missile cone, which was lodged between two ribs. She pushed her thumb and forefinger in between the ribs and tried to pry them apart. The missile moved slightly as she applied the pressure, so she grabbed the tailfin with her free hand and pulled.
more on the missile. Apparently its fairly narrow too, not much more than 20-25 cm, if that. A bit bigger than a bolt round, but eh.

Page 228
"It's kind of roundish, maybe ten centimetres long, with a metal tail. You know, like little round segments all linked together so it can wiggle around. Oh, and I can see little metal wires coming off the body, all over, like hair."
...
Derindi grabbed the Chamberlain's brain..
The cybernetic brain again.

Page 228-229
Armand brought his other arm up toward Kal's neck. Long needles extended from the tips of his first two fin­gers. The ends glistened as beads of clear liquid grew on the needles. "These inject an anti-coagulating agent and a sedative into your blood stream before drawing out your blood."

"So, you're more of a mosquito than a vampire."
Armand's blood draining capability. His rig is quite non-standard, isn't it? It apparently can climb walls (fly), it has great strength, it can absorb energy in various forms, and it can drain blood. I think it also has a chainsword, but thats about it. I dont think it even has a name, but it seems to be more in line with (for example) the Patriarch armour rather than the typical spyrer rigs. Maybe its onyl for Heirs?


Page 230
The tilt of Dutt's head told him that the other spy was getting instructions or new information via his inner ear receiver. While that was obviously a very useful piece of equipment...
Again the implanted receiver to match the tooth transmitter for communication and recording.


Page 239
He attached the leads from the medi-pack near his patient's shoulder. After flipping a few switches to account for the different mass and sex of his new patient, Scabbs sat back and scratched at some dry skin on his neck while the medi-pack analysed Valtin's condition.

He looked around while he waited. Lysanne sat with Themis over to the side. He'd been able to stabilise the elder Wildcat, but she'd still need a real medicae to repair that nasty wound once they got out of this scav-forsaken shaft. Lysanne had hugged him again when he'd told her Themis would live.
Spyrer medipack again. Seems to be quite computerised.

Page 240
Scabbs was about to get up and go take a look when the medi-pack beeped. He read the display. "Anaemic" he said. "Well, I could have told you that." There were other instructions on the screen. He pulled out a syringe with a tube that extended from the side of the pack and jabbed it into Valtin's arm. A clear solution snaked its way through the tube.
Spyrer medipack again.

Page 241
"It was a power cell disrupter." said Valtin. His voice was sounding stronger already. "Father gave it to me. He thought it might come in handy against Armand."

Jonas smiled and eased his grip on Scabbs's shoulder a little. "Pretty nifty device." he said. "I've never heard of anything like that."

'It's actually a prototype," said Valtin. "Father 'acquired' it from a Van Saar tech with dubious morals."
Origins of the power cell disruptor. Again note the implications of R&D and shit happening on Necromunda.

Page 242
Scabbs closed his eyes. He heard the plasma pistol fire, and then heard something hit the floor. What hap­pened? Did he kill Valtin first? He snuck one eye open and screamed. Jonas's body lay on the floor, blood and guts oozing out of a hole in his chest and running through the metal mesh.

Scabbs sat up and looked around. Lysanne smiled at him as she slipped her own plasma pistol back into the folds of her black robe.
Plasma pistol. Note the lack of cauterization.

Page 245
He fired a lasblast from each of his weapons, hitting Seek in both hands simultane­ously. The Orlock ganger dropped his pistols and stuck his laser-burned fingers in his mouth.
I'm guessing first or second degree burns, so lets call it 10-30 j per sq cm. Assuming a 10-15 cm hand (burnt on each side or nearly so?) call it 200-300 sq cm which is between ~2-9 kj per shot. Does not include any thermal effects to heat up the pistols themselves, which might account for burning inside the fingers.

Page 247
"Feedback loop." said Bobo. "I jammed one of Nemo's transmitters into Derindi's ear, up against his receiver implant. The sound cycles through the system over and over until it creates an awful screeching noise."
Bobo knwos about feedback loops enough to explain. IGNORANCE!

Page 248
He handed Valtin a data cartridge
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Valtin turned the cartridge over and over, but Kal knew there were no markings.
..
"Scabbs found it in that maintenance tunnel next to the lift. Said it came out of a terminal that had a web­like network of wire leads plugged into it. I think Axmand had been duplicating the contents of the Chamberlain's brain. If so, whatever he found is proba­bly stored on that cartridge."
data cartridge and recording capability. Can apparently store centuries of memories and data in a palm-sized cartridge. Given that as per other sources a brain can store hundreds of gigatbyetes or even terabytes of information that is.. impressive. Maybe not for the size so much, but that's bound to be visual as well as auditory information, and considering the location (the Underhive) that is fairly impressive.

Page 252-253
"Yolanda gave the last working Spyrer rig to those two Wildcats."
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"They needed it." Yolanda said to Kal. "The vampire and that unit wiped out all but the two of them. The creds they can getting from breaking that thing down and selling it for tech will more than rebuild the gang."
Where the spyrer rig ended up. It actually doesnt get broken up (til the second book) but its interesting that they figured that the tech might be of interest or use to someone.

Page 253
"I had to spend most of that on new lasguns." said Kal. Yolanda stared at him. "They're scavving sweet guns," he added. "Pearl-handled, wood grip, laser sights. Just gor­geous."
Jerico's new pistols. What he packs from the second book onwards (and forms part of the evasion he makes in the second book as well.)
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Kal Jerico: CArdinal crimson next. Actually a single update, because not a huge amount of detail (or at least not huge blocks of text to quote. Which is nice sometimes.) Cardinal Crimson is actually my favorite novel of the three books, and that's mainyl because of the theme. We have non-fanatical/asshole Cawdor Redemptionists, a sort of pseudo-Jesus figure, and Kal Jerico being put in the uncomfortable position of being a hero - somethign which he must face up to.

Cardinal Crimson is a story involving a character from the comic books, and his past coming back to haunt him. Kal gets caught up in what is a religious schism (or what is to become a schism) between what we might tink of as 'extrmeely fundamentalist' Redemptionists who are the majority (eg the ones who burn and slaughter because they view everyone as a potential sinner.) and a breakaway minority who are generally more tolerant and even noble (EG they'll defend people - even psykers -against the former type of Redemptionist.) as a messiah-like figure literally comes out from the ash wastes and returns. In trying to do what he does best (make a quick credit by winging it) he has to decide which side he's on.

Page 7
Jobe Franks placed his two metre, ninety kilogram body square..
Height/weight of a Necromundan underhiver.
Page 11
Bitten was talking fast now, either because he was telling the truth and they didn't have much time, or just to get his story out before Franks melted his brain with the laspistol.
May or may not mean something calc wise for a laspistol. Technically you can't 'melt' human flesh (its 70% water for one thing) but you oculd take that as meaning 'extensive thermal damage') which could be inflicted by single digit kj beams for example (third degree burning) although it could also mean outright cooking it as a whole, which might mean more (say 100 kj) It does also seem to imply these particular lasweapons rely on thermal rather than mechanical damage mechanisms.
Page 12
Francks flipped open the bottom of the grip to check the power cell. It was empty. He'd checked it before he left. What was wrong? "Those damn juves screwed up the recharge."
Implies the lasgun power pack is probably in the pistol handle, meaning its not much larger than a real life gun clip. Assuming a sodium sulfur battery and around 200 grams for a clip you get around 108 kj per clip (540 kj per kg energy density) Going by the 1-1.25 kj per cubic cm for a power pack (assuming a 10x4x2cm powerpack) we get between 80-100 kj again. Which, given between 20-80 shots per laspistol (depending on source) gives you between 1 and 5.4 kj per shot.

Page 12-13
Jules Ignus had appeared out of the acidic haze, perhaps another hundred metres past Syris.
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Francks aimed, but had little chance of hitting Ignus from such a distance with a pistol. The two shots rang out almost simultaneously. Franck's bolt slammed into the pool next to Ignus...
...
The blats from Ignus's rifle hit Syris in the back. Bits and pieces of armour flew off as the shot bored through to flesh. Syris's head snapped back and his mouth opened. Francks knew his friend was screaming, but all he could hear was the pounding of his own heart.
He shot again and again, hitting the stone walkway in front of Ignus and then the rival leader's arm.
Earlier it mentions Francks is too far away to yell a warning ot Syris, and he's too far away for Francks to easily hear, which suggests maybe 50-100 m at least suggesting the range of a laspistol (for a good shooter) 100 m (he was confident of hitting a target 10m next to Syris to warn him) but less than 200 (although he's not far off )
Page 15
The ten mile high cone of Hive Primus had loomed ahead of him all that time...
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The tattered remains of his leather trousers and jacket barely covered the old man's stopped body.
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But his face, perhaps protected from the harsh enviorment of the wastes by the massed tnagle of white hair...
...

Francks looked up at the imposing structure of Hive Primus, now mostly shrouded by the layer of poisonous cloud that surrounded it som five miles up. These clouds were testament to the hardworking men and women of Hive City, who toiled in factories so that the nobles could live luxurious lives high up in the spire, well above the poison and filth beneath them. The foul gases also made the ash wastes what it was - an inhospitable hell where evne the dregs of society dare not live.
Height of hive primus, and ocmment on the external danger. They must be more long term than short term dangers, given that Francks apepars to be living outside, unprotected and is mostly untouched. Indeed we know from Outlander that its possible to travel outside (albeit risky). And of course there are the Ash nomads...
Page 18-19
The Goliaths - six angry members of the Grak gang to be exact...
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Luckily they only had frag grenades and shotguns, and were still out of useful range for both. But that wouldn't last for long.
Important shortly.

Page 19
"Do you know how thick their hides are?" Asked Kal. "Not to mention their steel-like bones"
REferring to Goliaths, it seems that their enhanced size and musculature carries some measure of sturctural and dermal strength as well, much like with Orks and Space Marines. The source/nature of this enhacment is open to speculaton - augmetics, chemical enhancement, mutation...

Page 21
..back towards their pursuers, who were getting dangeorusly close to grenade range again.
Again important shortly.
Page 22
Wotan whipped his head back and forth at the apex of his jump, shedding the bandoliers, which fell onto the heads of the two leaders.
As soon as Wotan hit the muck behind the Goliaths, Kal opened fire with both weapons, sending blasts of superheated particles racing towards their pursuers at the speed of light. His shots slammed into the chests of the two leading gangers, which would have had little effect if they hadn't both just acquired new bandoliers full of explosives.
Jerico's cyber-mastiff can leap as high as a Goliath's head. Also Kal is able to open fire and hit a goliath sized target - in the chest - from just outside Grenade-throwing or shotgun range. 40-50 meter range at least, for both, although shotguns can be lethal out to 100+ metres, and given enahnced Goliath strength I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't throw farther. also the bandoliers explode (at least half a dozen or more grenades plus other ordnance) so I imagine the range would be quite a bit greater just for safety purposes (they're not at major risk of being hit.)
Also Kal's laspistols fire 'superheated particles at light speed' we might take this to mean a particle/plasma beam/bolt interpretation of lasweapons, or a stylized description of a laser. Works either way, but it demonstrates las bolts do move at high velocity (unless its an abnett novel :P)

Page 23
The masons were schedules to come in and begin to shore up the dome after that, and if he slipped even a day on the schedule, it would take months to reschedule them - months that he would be out of a job. "The engineer was here yesterday and declared it safe"
Construction crew foreman (and crew), engineers., masons, contract work.. and not a bloody techpriest in sight. :lol:

Page 24-25
They were entrusted with saving the souls of the dock workers, who were well known for their sinful ways. They did, however, have to curb their more physically instructive styles as violence was frowned upon even in this rough area of Hive City and the gang was forced to masquerade uder the guise of a legitimate security operation.
Nickle and Staven had been standing outside Madam Noritake's house of Fun, verbally instructing its patrons about how much more satisfied they would be in the embrace of the Undying Emperor than in the clutches of the unclean women inside.
...

"Have you ever considered that perhaps you are lost and need someone to show you the way to a better place?"
Redemptionist proselytizing. RAther funny how it isnt with flame and sword, and talks about clutching the Undying Emperor rather than whores :P
Later on a younger Cawdor Juve tries the same thing on Kal, and nearly gets his nuts bitten off (threatend literally)

Page 31
"useless bunch, the lot of them [Cawdor]. Undying Emperor, hah! What a bunch of hokum."
As I've noted before, the Underhive seems to have little use for religion of any kind, mechanical or Emperorish
Page 32
..for my new laspistols. That's got to be the debt collector from the Re-Engineers, the Van Saar gang that sold them to me."
Kal's laspistols are Van Saar manufacture.

Page 35-37
Francks had let his eyes cloud over slightly as randal spoke, and peered into the black centre of Randal's eyes. Yes there was deceit hidden there beneath his jovial exterior. Deceit mixed with greed, and just a touch of fear. Randal probably didn't know what to do with him, so was sending him into another gang's territory. It was a brilliant move. Randal had complete deniability if Francks got into toruble, and had much to gain if 'the old man' actually made inroads into the other gang's home.
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But somewhere near the base of his skull, Jobe Francks felt the man's black aura. His mind's eye, which saw more of the world than any sane man should feasibly be able to handle, noticed the intrusion and primed Franck's muscles for action a moment before the Assassin's arm shot around his neck.
Francks has the ability to basically read thoughts/intentions off the minds of others and to detect hostile intent (either telepathy or precog of some kind.) Whether thit is wyrd-based power or some sort of manifestation of Divine Faith like the Sororitas have is up for debate, and it oculd go eithr way.
Page 44-45
Jock was a burly fellow, huge upper arms and Goliath-sized chest. In fact, Jock's generla size and shape made most people think Goliath - at least until they glanced up at his face. Jock had the smooth skin and rounded features of a child, all set in a head that looked almost ludicrously small sitting atop hi smassive shoulders and thick neck. Despite his large body and small head, Jock was bright enough to run the Lucky Strike...
Another goliath type being in Necromunda.
Page 57
"nobody will work on it anymore.. at least not at the wages we're paying'"
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"We're already paying twice the scale rate!"
People getting paid for work. In Necromunda. This is the construction work bit again actually :P

Pge 73-75
"They say we harbour heretics," he began, "but we don't. It's just that our leader, breland, won't condemn every wyrd and unbeliever on sight. HE says,
"We are all on separate paths to salvation, but the paths converge to a single point, like spokes on a wheel"
...
What he did see were books. Lots and lots of books. An expensive habit, thoguth Francks. Bound tomes were virtual relics, worth at least triple their number in weapons.

He now realised that the juves had all been reading when he came in.
..
The Universal Path and Questioning the Truth. Bowdie had forced him to read these when he was just a juve. They had been sacrilegious works even then. One said that the Undying Emperor was more an ideal - a universal force - than a god, and that all would be saved if they just walked the path of a virtuous man. The other taught that reason and forgiveness were the supreme qualities of man, that intolerance and hatred were the hallmarks of a limited mind.
We learn here that while most REdemptionist sare as looney as the book makes out (hell in the Imperium) that the Redemptionists, like the Greater Imperial cult, have their branches and some of them are actually less pants-on-head insane. Which reflects the packrat, all-consuming nature of the Ecclesiarchy (if there is a way, they will work the Emperor into it to co-opt you into their fold) and the diversity of Humanity in general. I rather like it, actually.
We learn later that Bowdie, like Francks actually was very much in this vein. He didn't judge harshly, he even tried to protect/save wyrds or heretics that wanted redemption. Even to the extent of saving them (or trying to) from other Redemptionists. I geuss that meaks him sort of a REdmeptionist Christ figure of rsorts.

Page 80
One pulled the ripcord on his chainsword and it screamed to life. The other raised an autocannon up to his hip, hardly needing his second hand to steady the monstorus weapon.
Chainsword activation for a Golitah, and yet another Goliath wielding a huge weapon one handed.

Page 85
As Miguel aimed his weapons, Franck's eyes clouded over and he whispered a single word: "stagger".

Before he could fire, Miguel crumpled to the ground, falling to his side as if something had slammed into his hips.
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"Stagger, Righteous, stagger." intoned Francks, and one by one the Righteous Saviours fell to the floor.
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The rest were too dazed and confused by their veritgo to move..
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He called out softly to the Universals with both his voice and his mind.
Francks using Jedi Mind Tricks of a sort on other people. Again psyker or saint, up for debate.
Page 91
Yolanda drew her laspistols and fired to either side. One shot glanced off Gonth's shoulder pad, hardly even fazing the disfigured Goliath. The other hit the chainsword-weilder in the hand, burning off a finger.
lasburst blowing off Goliath finger and apparently cauterizing in the process. It probably suggests a beam diameter at least of 2-3 cm, although given that Goliaths are much larger than normal humans we might be talking 4+ cm, and it definitely means severing the finger bone. Probably at least a few kj for the bone (assuming human bone like properties. AS we noted before Goliaths seem to have considerably tougher bone and tissue than normal humans.) and perhaps another few kj at least for the tissues. Assuming a 3x3 cm area cauterized on both fingers (50-100 J per sq cm) we're talking another 900-1800 J at least.
If we assume he simply boiled or vaporized through the finger (268 kj per kg to 2.5 MJ per kg) you can get between 5 and 48 kj.

Page 91-92
A stream of shells erupted from teh autocannon...
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Above the din, she heard a somewhat more human scream of pain echoing down the tunnel. apparenlty the overanxious goliath had hit at least one of his comrades with the autocannon burst.
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"Scavving idiot killed my brother" said one of the Goliaths

This was followed by two loud shotgun bangs and a dull 'Ooph'
Yolanda knew from experience that a shotgun blast, even at close range, would do little than enrage a Goliath, especially one large enough to handle an autocannon.
..

The next sound she heard was the whine of the autocannon's cylinder revving up.
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The Third Goliath lay on the ground, with a gaping bloody hole where his chest should have been.
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One [shell] hit the dead Goliath, spraying blood and limbs onto the walls.
Goliaths don't seem to suffer much from shotgunw ounds, but autocannojn put rather large holes in them. Rather nasty.

page 92
"That Hurt!" said the Goliath, waving his four-fingered hand in the air...
Again the las bolt cauterized the finger rather obviously.

Page 92
..squinted as she aimed her pistols up high. Searing red energy spat form the end of her laspistols, slicing through the air and hitting the Goliath in the wrist. Both blasts impacted at a single point, cutting a neat hole through the wrist, bone and the mass of tendons that controlled the joint.
The Goliath looked up just in time to see his hand go limp..
Two lasbolts sever tendons and bone, without completely severing hand. So we're talking at least 4-5 cm diameter but probably less than 10-15 cm diameter. Going by medical diagrams for the wrist I'd say a good estimate is going to be 7-8 cm diameter (and 10-15 cm thick) given that Goliaths probably are as large as Bragg types or Astartes. For the bone alone this can result in double digit kj total, which can result in single/double digit shots for bolts apiece, and that still doesn't include cauterization potential - that alone is going to be a good 8-16 kj, which means 4-8 kj per bolt at least. and of course boiling or vaporizing their way through will be much more energetic - tens, perhaps even hundreds of kj per shot.
the Jerico novels seem to go (as we learn later) with a variety of different mechanisms, so bear in mind that they don't all do the same thing. Some seem mostly thermal, and may only punch neat holes in the target. Others may explode shit. And still more may do a combination of both.

Page 95
"And the Breath of Fresh Air was the closest Bar."
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He and Kal were the only ones in the place other than Squatz, the dwarfish bartender who was hobbling back behind the bar.
The Bar from the novel Salvation, and Squatz, again the 'dwarfish' bartender. I'm sure that's meant to be a in-joke.
Page 115
He sent a silent command, as he had done with the Righteous gang, but the assassin's mind was too focused, too well trained.
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REaching out with his mind again, Jobe felt the assassin moving from his position.
...
He could feel the assassin getting closer, padding down the street, weapon in hand. Perhaps night vision goggles on.
Assassin with NVG, and again Francks can get precog like warnings and detect minds. HE can also send out commands without the voice tricks.

Page 95-96
"Whoever took old Krellum was a hell of as killed fighter. Shattered his knee and put two big holes in his chest,. AT close range too.
...
"Krellum was found by the Enforcers this morning in an alley, just like I said - two blasts in his chest and a broken leg."
Interesting to speculate how big the holes might have to be. bigger than bullets I imagine.. maybe 3-4 cm in diameter perhaps at least (a little bigger than the 'finger sized' lasbeams.) Hard to calc, although it probably requires more than a few kj for the diameter. If we assumed a 10 cm deep, 4 cm diameter hole we get between 6-12 KJ per hole for 3rd degree burns.

Page 122
Workers left their homes and headed out to factories or the mines or the docks. Faceless, nameless, futureless drones trudging back and forth through their lives. This was the monotonous existence the gangs rebelled against: the endless sameness, the senseless tedium of working for little or no reward, of moving forward but never getting anywhere.
Some turned to adventure, hooking their hopes on the one big score. Others sank into violence, wreaking dvengeance for their tiresome lives on all they encountered. Still others, a dismal few, really, looked to a higher power to find some meaning in their lives. He thought it was unfortunate that so many Cawdor fell into the first two categories and never discovered the third possibility.
I like scenes like this when they crop up in novels, and the Necromunda novels are chock full of them. It is much more conducive to that 'suspension of disbelief' thing than silly shit you find in codexes or Imperial armour books. I mean you can picture people in real life doing things like this, feeling this way, sharing those dreams.
Of course fleeing to the underhive means giving up security and structure for freedom and independence (including the freedom to starve and/or be at the mercy of anyone stronger or nastier than you.) but in life (and esp in 40K) there are tradeoffs in everything. Especially in Necromunda. Even being rich isn't all its cracked up to be, due to the expectations of House and Family controlling and dictating your life, intrigue and politics both inside the family/house and amongst the different families, etc.

Page 126
Around a bend in the tunnel emerged three men on motorcycles. They belched black smoke, leaving a roiling dark cloud in their wake.
Motorcycles on Necromunda again. I still wonder where they get the fuel from (and if its biofuels, what they make it from.. soylent gasoline again comes to mind lol.)

Page 129
"He's not the man you knew. He's changed. Jules Ignus did die - he is gone for good - but the man he beacme, the one who came after, that man is no more Jules Ignus than I am. He's more. More powerful. More influential. More righteous."
...
"That's why I couldn't see him before." he said. "there's a thread of Ignus still woven into the plan. so I looked for him, but he wasn't here. But you say, it's not really Ignus anymore. I can use that. I can seek him now."
I'm again reminded of that whole 'pattern/skein' thing that the Eldar have spoken of in the Path novels by Gav Thorpe.. the symbology here is almost the same. It's interesting that a wyrd (or a saint - I'm more inclined to the latter myself) has such a good grasp of what it means, even if he isn't on the level of Eldar.
It also shows the pitfalls of trying to read/follow the patterns in the skein - you need to have knowledge of things (and the right things) to be able to read and anticipate. Hell we know even the Eldar can read it wrong, sot hey rely on many, multiple Seers and Farseers reading and rereading the skein and comparing their choices.

Page 130
He grabbed at the back of a chair lodged between a chunk of masonry and an overturned crate...
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A laser blast screamed over his shoulder and obliterated the chair.
We dont know how big a chair or what is is made of, but I'd bet at least single if not double (for a plastic or metal chair respectively Its unlikely wood exists in the Hive). It also reflects the variations in how lasweapons work in Necromunda. Here, they'r emore explosive than in other cases, whislt others are more burny.

Page 131
He turned again, braced his feet against a metal door, and aimed at the approaching gang.
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The next volley of shots all impacted below Kal, obliterating the door under his feet. Kal slid down the blockade.
Unknown number of shots (dozens, hundreds?) of lasfire and bullets obliterate some sort of hatch that can support Kal's weight. Assuming an inch thick door some 40x40 cm and between 40-400 shots is between 100 sq cm and 10 sq cm (3-4 cm diameter to 11 cm diameter) call it between 10-200 or so kilojoules. Quite a range huh? (high) Single digit kj probably could cover it though. Although without knowing exactly how many shots, the kinds of shots 9ammo) and such its hard to make all the estimates to be more precise.

Page 136
..covered in a blanket of darkness and a special cloak he'd taken from a Delaque agent he'd taken down a few years back. The cloak soaked up the darkness and radiated nothing back, not even heat. He was all but invisible, even to infrared or night vision goggles.
More Delaque super stealth cloask. They basically absorb any sort of EM energy I gather, from IR to visual.

Page 141
A while later, after using his torch, again on the attic vent, the assasin climbed out of the shaft, switched to nightvision on his goggles..
more NVG in the underhive.

Page 171
"Latest thing from the Spire," said Bobo, smiling. "It's a communication device. Fits in your ear. With it we can talk no matter how far apart we get. Its similar to the vox units Nemo uses, but less invasive."

"Where'd you get this?" asked Kal. "Looks military."
"Better you don't know." replied Bobo.
Kal put the communicator in his ear. It fitted snugly, but felt a little strange.
Kal is given a military comm. I wonder if they're given to Spire troops? It's after all not much more than a micro bead (comms being one thing that your average ganger seems to lack.) Anyhow the implied range is throughoug the entire Hive, which implies many kms (up to 10-16 km? ) which is impressive, but it could very well depend on existing comm networks inside the hive to boost/relay the signal.

Page 174
Ander backed up, firing into the crowd as he tried to retreat. Slave after slave dropped ot the ground, with scorch marks on their chests, shoulders and faces. Scabbs eyes went wide in horror as he saw the price of his brilliant plan. Those Ander shot withed in pain on the ground if they were lucky. Their wounds looked like ground up, broiled meat.
Yet another look at lasweapons and their effects. more of a sort of hybrid thermal/mechanical.. sort of like a steam explosion I gather. While 'broil' is not an exact term, the temperatures involved (judging by food meats, which is the analogy) we'd be talking around 150-300C, which is above boiling and in/around cauterization temps.
We dont know the actual surface areas involved but if we assumed 5x5 or 10x10 cm we'd get between 25-100 sq cm, which is at least 1-10 kj depending on exact burns. If we assumed a 3 cm diameter, 10 cm deep burn (boiling to cauterizing, call it between 268 kj to 920 kj we get between 13-50 kj or so.
It's rather interesting that there is no evidence of any hole being made, I guess the beam is just cooking the flesh directly (burn damage) with some steam explosion effects ot pulverize. That would suggest fairly penetrative (eg particle-beam like) bolts.
It might also reflect different settings or design features of lasweapons (vairable focus, charge setting, fire modes, etc.)
Also Scabbs, usually the sidekick, is experiencing a sort of Rite of passage thing. he's seeing that actions have consequences, something he usually isn't exposed ot (because other people, like Kal, are making choices.) Rather horrible for the little guy, since he is (of the group) the more conscientious and generally nicer. (Which isnt to say Kal isn't nice, but he's.. harder.)
Page 177
"I sent her out in the rig to slow them down. It's the only thing that saved us. Otherwise they would have overrun the diner."
..
"They must have had a grenade launcher." said Themis. She wiped her dagger on the Goliath's back. "we heard a huge explosion. The whole dome shook. The rig crashed into my apartment above the diner's kitchen."
"And she survived?"
Themis nodded. "That rig is tough. Saved her life. Of course, it won't be much use unless we can scavenge some parts somehow."
I find this a bit.. interesting given that in the first and last novels its made quite obvious that only a noble (like Yolanda) could use the rig. Yet Lysann e(the person they are talking about) was able to use it apparently, although it got busted up pretty well. Does this mean the implants Yolanda had can be transferred from person to person? If so, why didn['t Yolanda know it? And how did she expect to use it?

Page 192
[qupote]"And don't come around looking for severance pay. If I see you again, you'll be the one slaving away in chains."[/quote]
Guilders offer severance pay?

Page 194-195
"Well I'm in Glory Hole now," said Kal.
..
"I can priobably get to Glory Hole in thirty minutes."
30 minutes, even at wlaking speed would suggest 1-3 kms or so based on average walking speed estimates. Again suggests multi-km range for the comms (Kal and Bobo are obviously speaking via the comm.)
Page 196-197
The Goliaths tromped past the debt collector, making the little man look like a rag doll lying on the street beneath the giant gangers. "They do have some sense." said Kal as he turned back to concentrate on running. "They're not willing to risk a murder charge on a civilian."
Underhive does have some laws in some places, at least against civilians. Makes some sense for gangers, since they usually will rely on those civilians to provide them needed supplies or money or whatever.

Page 199
Francks placed a hadnd on Scabb's shoulder, and the talkative fellow immediately went quite. Francks looked deeply inot Scabbs eyes and absorbed his pain an dfear. The fatigue and tension of a stressful night draineda way from his face, and his tired eyes cleared and brightened.
Another of Franck's useful talents.. sort of a 'healing' capability in the psychological/fatigue sense.

Page 210
He fired twice, pulverising two chunks of rock on the pile below Ralan.
Lastpistols. Explosive damage. This is Kal's pistol too, which is interesting given what we witness later. Assuming a 3-4 cm diameter 'rock' we're talking at least 5-6 kj per shot, but something bigger (say 10 cm - or about fist sized) would be closer to 80+ kj. Again single/double digit kj at least seems likely.

Page 212
Death is no more than a single moment in time, a tiny blip on the fabric of the Universe. But the fabric is made up of all those blips. EAch life adds to the tapestry, touching other blips and sparking new patterns to emerge and spread across the fabric like ripples in a pool. To cut a life short would tear a hole in the fabirc. Redemption came only once the last stich was sewn, the last pattern was woven.
Again that 'skein' like pattern.. its actually a fairly good analogy for the 'human' aspect of the Warp - all those lights representing the 'soul' of a person, as well as all the little 'cause and effect' interactions.
'Tearing a hole' is interesting - does that imply killing people creates warp rifts of some kind? That would make a certain kind of sense, large scale death has been known to open or sustain warp rfits after all.

Page 212
He reached out towards Crimson with his mind as he stretched his arm into the shimmering air. With a flick of his wrist, he knocked the weapon from the CArdinal's hand.
Melta knocked out of Crimson's hand by Franck's power.

Page 215
Scabbs looked up to see Ralan crumpled on the ground with a neat, round hole burned through his forehead.
Kal's laspistol. this time punching net narrow holes in people rather than blowing things apart. Does this mean his Van Saar pistols have variable 'modes'? Alternately, it may reflect that the hole is 'neat' from the front, but blows a much bigger hole out int he back (laspistols have in fact done this)
PAge 223
Even with the blades rotating at thousands of revolutions per minute, the chainsword would have toruble cutting through tough Goliath muscle, and their underlying bones were like bars of steel.
Thousands of rpm would be about what modern chainsaws pull, a bit low even (could be more to high thousands low tens of thousands IIRC.) So.. chainsaws right :P the ability to use a ripcord only reinforces it.
Oh and just how tough the Goliath are again.. tough bones, tough tissue, etc.

Page 224
The goliath strode toward her, pulling out a shotgun and pumping a shell as he approached. Laser blasts and bullets slapped him in the chest and arms, but didn't slow him down.
Another indicator of Goliath toughness.

Page 227
He rose up behind the wall with a plasma gun in his hands.
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He jammed a power cell into the weapon and fired.
Kal dived to the side as a large stone beside him explodd from the released plasma energy. Shards rained around him as he hit the ground. He knew better than to get into a gunfight against a plasma gun. The energy shells were lke grenades. You just had to get close.
Power cell (rather than photohydrogen) operated plasma weapon. Probably a bit more versatile since it would require a far less exotic power source. Possibly at the cost of raw thermal power. And plasma weapons compared to grenade at least in effect if not power.

Page 230
He fired again and again, waving the weapon around randomly and squeezing the trigger to unleash powerful blasts of plasma in all directions. Shards of rocks, hunks of metal, and pieces of bodies flew into the air wherever the neergy shells hit.
That would suggest a 'grenade levle' damage effect in truth, esp the 'pieces of body' bit.

Page 231-232
The air above yolanda sizzled. A bright light arced over her head, blinding her. She blinked away the tears that welled up and grasped her weapons. Now was he rchance.
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His mouth lolled open slightly and his eyes had gone wide in surprise, probably form the large hole in his chest.
..
When she heard Scabb's laser blasts...
Las weapon of som ekind puts a large hole in a body.

Page 232-233
[qute]Energy blasts exploded all around the work site.

"Plasma gun," said Yolanda.
...
One minute he'd been standing there ready to pull the trigger, the next minute his chest simply exploded. The head had dropped and rolled betwen her legs while bewed spewed from the lower half of his torso all over her face and chest.[/quote]
Probably a plasma gun blowing apart upper torso of Goliath. Again a bit of a grenade effect in that.

Page 237
He fired the plasma gun.
..
The Guilder's head, along with the amp and the hand that held it, exploded in a gory shower of blood, bone and plastic.
Plasma bolt headsplosion.

Page 239
"I didn't choose you." he said. "The Universe did. And it has its reasons. This fight needs someone lik eoyu, Kal Jerico. And we both know there's no one else quite like you to choose."

"I don't know what to say to that." said Kal. "I've never had much stomach for Cawdor or Redemptionists. Too preachy and holier than thou for my liking. I try to take people as they are, and not change them. But I can tell you're different from Crimson and his ilk. Honest and decent. I would have liked to have had the chance to get to know you. I'm... I'm sorry I couldn't save you."
One of my favorite parts of the novel: Kal talking to Francks. For all the 'selfish, debauched bounty hunter' bit we see Kal has a core of decency to him. He's been hardened by life in the spire and in the underhive, but this reflects the guy who is able to form friendships with a co-spire escapee and former Escher as well as a half-ratskin plague factory. And it really underscores the Ciaphas Cain like feeling of the novels.

Page 230-240
When he took it, Jobe grabbed him around the wrist. The clouds in his eyes swirled form white to grey to black like a sudden storm.
..
After a moment, Kal pulled away and blinked. "What the scav was that?" he asked.
"Information." said Jobe. "Memories. A vision of your cyber-mastiff, Wotan."
Francks can pass along his visions.. at least as a form of memory (or what he's seen.. basically Kal knows what is coming up to the point Francks saw things and passed it along. Useful skill to pass along or implant in a short term context. I bet Astropaths and similar could do it, and it would have great benefits.

Page 253
Kal looked up as two large, Van Saar ruffians pushed their way through the crowd to the table. They had no visible weapons but both of them looked like they could have given Gonth and Grak a run for their money in an arm wrestling contest.
Yet more huge, quasi-goliath types with other gangs.
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And with this we come to the last of the 'Necromunda' novels I plan to cover - assuming I don't redo Outlaw or they publish another. Kal Jerico: Lasgun wedding. It's probably the least enjoyable Kal Jerico novel. The Banter is there, but there's nothing of the nobility or 'inner good guy' of the previous Jerico novels tying this one together. Indeed the plot feels a bit weaker than the lats two - more a rehash of the first book in slightly different context. About the only good thing is Bobo getting offplanet with his girl.

Still, I mostly enjoyed it.

Page 7-8
"This is Royal Transport X29. We are under heavy fire. I repeat. This is Royal Transport X29 taking heavy ground fire.”
...
With one hand holding the bucking yoke, Jarl set the port fuel injectors to neutral and tried a cold restart. Nothing. A contrail streaked across the dark clouds, curving right towards the front of the transport. Jarl slammed the yoke hard right. The missile sped past the view screen. It came so close he could practically read the lettering on the side.
..
“We’re down one engine! Can’t maintain altitude… No. We can’t get out of range. They’ve got heavy weapons… Get us some damn support!”
..
And if they ran out of fuel, this flying brick would plummet to the ground. It wasn’t like they had wings they could use to glide to a safe landing.
Assuming they survived a two-mile drop, Jarl didn’t like the prospect of hoofing it through the Ash Wastes, let alone dodging whoever or whatever was down there shooting at them.
Implied range of 2 miles for a missile launcher of some kind. It's never explicitly mentioned but it may be man portable, givne what happens later on.

Page 17-18
dozen muties had climbed on top of the transport and begun banging on it, scratching at it, and even, it seemed, getting on their hands and knees and biting the metallic exterior. Amazingly, they had managed to pull up and tear off several metal panels, which they then dropped on top of their comrades below.
He marvelled at both their strength and the durability of their fingernails and teeth. It was said they could claw the bones out of a man’s body and bite through his skull. He no longer doubted these claims.
Capabilities of Ash Waste mutants.

Page 18
More las blasts ripped into the mutie ranks from inside as well, followed by rocket propelled grenades that blasted holes in the ash dunes and sent mutant bodies flying into the air.
House Helmawr royal guards employing RPGs.

Page 22-23
He considered the runny, brown eggs and the black brick he supposed was toast on the plate in front of him and shrugged. “Looks like the Sump Hole got a new cook,” he said.
“Somebody shot the last one,” replied Yolanda.

...
Yolanda picked up the toast and whipped it at Scabbs.
He ducked just in time to avoid a concussion. Behind him, Scabbs heard the sound of glass shattering. He turned to see the toast imbedded in the wall behind the bar. The contents of several bottles of wildsnake dripped onto the bald head of the bartender.
“You’re paying for those, Yolanda,” he said. “I covered you on the cook, but broken bottles is bought bottles.”
Underhive cuisine. It isnt neccesarily the 'best', but its something I suppose. And if not you can always shoot the cook.

Page 28-29
The metal mastiffs ear perked up, which somewhere down in the base of its mechanical brain it knew were nothing more than a bunch of gears responding to a subroutine in its programming that pulled on wires to rotate extraneous flaps on either side of its head back and forth.
...
The command processed across sensors and odd bits of wiring, through solid state transistors, deep down into the salvaged memory core of an ancient construct built in another age for another purpose. Out of that core came more commands. Simple commands like the ear perk and the ensuing tail wag and tongue lick, but also more complex commands that propelled the metal mastiff into action.
Wotan bounded out from beneath the table past the stick-like human cowering by the bar. For some reason that went beyond simple wiring and programming, he stopped and growled at the stick, taking one last snap that caught a square of the man’s trousers and just a small patch of skin.
His mouth opened into a big grin and his tongue, a moistened scrap of rubber that ran on small hydraulic compressors, lolled out to the side as he ran through the swinging door out into the street.
...
nother program began running in the background of his metal brain, and he put his nose to the ground to sniff the dirt. The same compressors that moved his tongue now drew air into his body, where it was analyzed in a small compartment in his chest. Mixed in with the remnants of various waste products and the ozone-rich scent of laser fire were wisps of leather and hair gel.
The composition and capabilities of Wotan, Kal Jericho's cyber-mastiff. Seems to be an actual mechanical rather than merely servitor brained type of animal.

page 33-34
Las blasts with accompanying tracers lanced into the mound of ash behind the downed transport. Dust and bits of dead skin and bone vaporized, sending an acrid cloud into the air.
The barrage continued for a full minute before stopping.
..
The royal troops unleashed another salvo a moment later. This one lasted only ten seconds before troops began to rush out.
...
The onslaught from the royals continued unabated. They fired in crossing patterns out in three directions from the transport, covering the perimeter with laser blasts and a few explosions.
After two minutes of continuous fire, a command emanated from inside.
At least 3 minutes, ten seconds of continuous fire on unknown setting from Helmwar Royal Guard lasguns. We dont know of any reloading (or indeed if they do reload easily) but even at one shot per second we're talking hundreds, if not thousands of shots, and that doesnt seem to even drain the powerpacks.
Also las blasts 'with tracers' - that suggests the visible element is just a separate component for sighting/targeting purposes, and independent of the las weapon itself. Although we know of plenty enough cases where lasguns firing invisible shots have drawbacks or have to be deliberately configured to be invisible that this probably isn't universal.

Page 43-44
He snapped his laspistol out of its holster again and began firing at the edge of the panel. Soon, the hole he’d inadvertently put in the panel to the side turned into a gaping wound in the wall. Bits of molten plasteel dripped along the ragged edge.
...
The robed man didn’t even bother waiting for the metal to cool. He threw back the sleeve of his cloak to keep it from catching fire on the red-hot steel, revealing not an arm but an arsenal. His entire right arm had been replaced by a metallic contraption with a set of ten-centimetre steel claws attached at the end to use as a hand. Gears and pistons flexed the elbow with a small grating sound and the hiss of releasing air. The forearm section of the casing was enormous, easily larger around than the man’s massive thighs. Barrels of varying sizes and lengths poked out from the casing just past his wrist, and panels all along his forearm hid weaponry away for easy deployment.
It wasn’t the armoury he needed from his mechanical arm today. He needed its strength. The robed man grasped the edge of the pristine panel with his claws and pulled. At first, nothing happened. The gears whirred and clicked and the piston released a massive hiss of air, but the panel didn’t budge. He practically pulled his head into the wall with the effort. Repositioning, he slapped a boot up against the wall and then made a few adjustments to the hydraulics on the arm.
He yanked back again. Beads of sweat popped out on his forehead beneath the cowl and ran down his cheeks onto the respirator, but he could feel the panel begin to move. With a mighty yank, he ripped it from the wall, flinging it over his head as he fell backwards onto the metal grating.
...
The robed man harrumphed at the scummer as he pushed himself off the floor and back to his feet. He looked back at the panel, which had crashed halfway through the deck grate. It was nearly thirty centimetres thick, tapering in from the exterior panel section to the inner, dark-grey edge.
Vandal Feg, one of Jerico's nemesis from the comics I believe. The upgrades are a bit interesting as well as the implied feat of strength, but naturally I'm more interested in the cutting a hole in the side of a shuttle to get to a safe wiith laspistol.
There is a small problem in thsi being plasteel rather than actual steel (which we have no properties on) but for the sake of argument I'd assume properties of steel. We also don't know the dimensions quite, but we do know thickness. Assuming a 30x30 cm panel (at least as tall as it was thick) to 50 cm (about as wide as a person, he seems to be gripping it without his arms held too wide apart..) Width of the hole is perhaps a few cm, both because he can get his fingers into the hole, as well as the fact we know from various other sources (Dawn of War, Gaunt's Ghosts, 13th Legion, Cadian Blood, etc.) that lasbeam 'diameter' can range on a few cm - although GG also mentions a 5 mm example.
So if we assume 5mmx30cmx30cm to 3 cmx30cmx50cm, and assume 1/3 iron density (I'm assuming plasteel is lighter than iron, although no reason it isnt the same density) and has the same thermal properties (heat of fusion, melting point, etc.) - so 2600 kg/m^3.. between 1.17 and 11.7 kg gets melted. That's 1.4 to 14 MJ expended. We dont know how many shots were expended, but assuming the entire pack was drained (between 20 and 80 shots) is between 17.5 and 70 kilojoules, although that is clearly a 'heat ray' type lasweapon. What's further interesting is that its implied this is a sustained beam effect (or nearly so)
The other calc is obviously going to be higher (about 175-700 kj per shot.).
This is obviously not a 'precise' calc, and more an order of magnitude ones. Whilst inefficiencies, the properties (thermal and density) of the material are unknown (and quite probably are greater), we dont know the exact dimensions of the 'cut' either - I doubt I measured it that far off (20-30 cm seems likely since he has to be able to fit both hands into it, after all)

Page 52
The side of the fan housing had a gash where someone had pulled back the plasteel plating. It was an escape hatch that led into the ductwork just past the fan blades. Their bounty had obviously been planning to use it to get away.
Yolanda’s shot must have hit the housing just as their quarry tried to squeeze through, and the blast had either melted the metal or the impact had jammed it closed a little, making the hole just too small for the ratskin. He had one leg up to his groin and one arm up past the shoulder through the narrow opening. His head kept banging into the top of the crack as he twisted back and forth trying to get out.
We dont know the thickness of the housing, probably not much (a few mm) and assuming a 2x2 cm diameter shot melted means 2-3 grams melted.. this works out (unsurprisingly) to 2400-3600 J per shot, assuming iron. Again assume order of magnitude to allow for variations in thickness or a slightly larger diameter, and differeences in properties (potentially.)
PAge 53
In reality, the old man had probably been wearing his patriarch power armour and ripped the defenceless ratskins apart with his power claws, if it, or anything remotely like it, had ever happened at all.
Mention of the Patriarch power armour the really eldar Spyrers might have.

Page 56-58
“Listen, here’s what’s going to happen. I’m going to give your arm a good yank. Either you come unstuck and I take you in for the bounty on your head, or you don’t and I shoot your head off and plop it into my sack.”
...
Yolanda let go of Sonny’s arm and pulled out her laspistol and aimed it just below his chin.
...
Yolanda took one look at the stash in Sonny’s hand and then raised her gun and shot twice in succession. Sonny fell limp, still stuck in the cramped opening, with two round, smoking holes in his forehead.
Yolanda threatening to shoot the Scav's head off and then shooting him anyways, becuase it turns out the thief had stolen her own loot. It's interesting to compare threatening to 'shoot his head off' and yet the laspistol makes such neat holes in his head. That could mean either a.) she intended to 'cut' his head off with a series of lasshots raked across his neck or b.) the back of his head was blown out by the las shots and simply not mentioned.

page 58
Wotan stopped running. It wasn’t that he was tired. That could never happen. At least not during the thousand year half-life of his power core. No, he stopped to let his processors deal with all the extra scents being drawn into his body.
...
As he crashed through the door, ripping a huge hole in the lower quarter panel, the name above the door made its way through the circuits towards his memory core..
More on Wotan's functioning, particularily power source and vaguely implied limits on his processor coping. the 'half life' bit makes me think he might be fission powered, although lots of materials have half-lives and its not as if 40k doesn't have all sorts of exotic powerplants. If it WAS fission, I'd bet this implies thy have some very compact fission tech.
Page 63
Markel Bobo hadn’t had any rest in weeks, and precious little time for food either. So the soggy, reconstituted noodles and the slab of mystery meat on his plate actually tasted good.
More Underhive cuisine. Beats the Eggs and toast.

Page 68
He looked at a corpse lying nearby as he locked the largest barrel in his arsenal into place on his arm
..
..getting the two-inch barrel securely locked into place.
..
which discharged a frag grenade with a loud “thwoomp”.
2 inch diameter (I presume) grenade. That'd make them slightly larger than a 40mm grenade. Assuming that scaling applies in all dimensions that might mean the grenades are twice as powerful simply by being larger.

Page 70-71
The scummer leader pulled the rocket launcher from his back, unfolded the stock and loaded their remaining rocket.
...
The leader looked at the transport and Feg could see him come to the same conclusion. The military markings meant the transport had an extra layer of reinforced plasteel. It would be thicker than the door to the safe. The rocket launcher would be next to useless against it.
Its quite possible this is the same rocket launcher from before that shot down the shuttle. Vandal Feg and his allies planned to raid the shuttle and kill the occupants, and we didnt see them with any other heavy weapon that fired missiles other than this, so...
Page 74
He couldn’t fit through the door as he had donned his Orrus rig. His massive, tank-like body had doubled in size in the armour and he loomed in the doorway. He’d had to order Dobbs to open the door for him, as his huge gauntlets couldn’t do anything more delicate than smash holes in walls.
Orrus power armour. 'size' implies either a doubling in mass or volume, or perhaps both. As the biggest/most powerufl rigs, it probably means other rigs are less massive relative to their wearers (except maybe the patriarch armour)

Page 74-75
The rig’s wings, which were currently folded behind Mageson, provided sustained flight. They were also razor-sharp, making for a nasty surprise on strafing runs.
Yeld rig.

Page 75
“These rigs aren’t military assets. They’re on loan from the Lord Chamberlain himself. Considering the importance of this operation and the fact that one royal transport has been shot down already today, he deemed it prudent to allow their use. That’s why you and Stein are on this mission. I needed three nobles for the three rigs: you, me, and Stein.”
Spyrer rigs unsurprisingly aren't military issue, but rather the toys of the wealthy. Which doesn't mean that they can't be used in this capacity, as they clearly are being loaned out here, in which case they are quite useful. Between stormtrooper grade 'hive militia' (from Junktion) the Enforcers in Back from the Dead, and the Spyrer hunters anyone invading Necromunda would be sticking their hand in a meat grinder.

Page 76
A dozen grenade launchers unleashed explosive rounds at the same time. A moment later, twelve explosions ripped through the mutant horde.
“Fire,” said Katerin again, and watched as another dozen frag grenades arced out into the muties.
Royal Guard well equipped with grenade launchers.

Page 79
Kal dove into a side corridor just as the floating laspistol fired. A chunk of plaster vaporized behind him as he rolled forward down the hall. As he came to his feet, Kal looked at the sabre in his hand and wondered why he’d brought a sword to a lasgun battle.
I included it simpyl because its a vape calc. The various properites of plaster are known (density, etc.) and given that specific heat and working temp as well as density Assuming a 3 cm or so wide plaster.. something is 'vaporized' and an intial temp of 300K we might get 24-27 kj, but thats pretty damn arbitrary.

Page 80-81
Kal had seen stealth tech before. The Yeld spyrer rig somehow bent light around itself, rendering it basically invisible.
..
He bent down and poked around in the air, and felt something soft, like silk. As he pulled at it, he saw the air shimmer around his hand. Kal yanked on the cloth and pulled it away, revealing a dead female wearing Delaque body armour.
“Nice gadget,” said Kal, looking at the shimmering cloak in his hand. He fumbled with it, trying to determine which end was up, so he could put it on. Something heavy pulled at one end. He reached around until he felt a small box-shaped object hidden in an inner pocket. “Aha!” he said. “A holo-projector. I wonder how you turn it off?”
seems Delaque invisibility clothing can go beyond just IR and visible wavelength masking to outright cloaking.

Page 81-82
With his arms outstretched, he leaped to the side, firing three times with both weapons as he flew through the air. Two las blasts scorched the air above Kal as he hit the ground next to the far wall. As he rolled away from the battle, trying to get back to his feet, Kal heard a thud behind him.
...
Not the weapon or the shimmer, but a pool of blood on the floor that seemed to spread of its own accord.
Kal's laspistols seem not to cauterize this time.


Page 82-84
Five more came at him and he calmly launched a bolt into the one in the middle. When it exploded, the concussion and flying bone fragments took down the other four. What Katerin believed in was the power of an army; an army with guns.
..
Several laser blasts splayed across the force field surrounding Katerin’s armour
..
His bolts exploded right where the mercenaries had been standing. He wasn’t sure, but he thought one or two of them got caught in the blast radius. He moved in as the barrage of laser fire continued to pelt his armour. He launched two more bolts at the closest mercenaries. They didn’t have time to get out of the way and the blasts ripped through the exposed flesh around their armour.
Unfortunately, his bolt launchers were almost depleted, and he wanted to reserve at least one in each arm for an emergency. So, it was time for close quarters. As he lumbered forward, one of the laser blasts finally found its way through the force field, hitting his power unit. He watched as the shimmering field surrounding him disappeared.
“Oh scav,” he said
..
Twin streaks of red light descended from the sky, burning through two more of the mercenaries. Katerin saw Mageson’s smile as she flew over.
...
He grabbed the man’s head in both hands and squeezed with all his hydraulic-powered might, crushing the man’s skull in seconds.
He dropped the body in the ash and moved on. A few laser blasts impacted his rig, but the armour held. Although it was starting to get warm inside as the metal heated up around him. Only five remained, and none had fired anything more than lasguns. Katerin hoped they’d used up their heavy weapons bringing down the first transport.
Two more laser beams from above thinned the scummer group to three. Katerin struck one with his gore-covered hand, spraying the man’s face with blood as he caved in his nose. A second blow from his other hand went right through the man’s armour and chest, lifting him off the ground as Katerin’s fist impaled him.
After the impressive punch, Katerin’s arm was wedged inside the scummer’s chest, held in place by the sundered armour.
..
“Your force field is down,” said the one with the rocket launcher. A smile spread across his face. “And I don’t think I can miss your face from here.”
Orrus rig in action. Impressive physical strength, shields to suppelment physical armour, and rocket bolts with proximity effect (but low ammo supply its eems.)
A 'few las blasts' which I assume to mean between 2-5 bolts or so noticably raise the temp inside the suit While we dont know how much is heated. ASsuming 1 cm wide and 20x20cm heated and made of iron (call it 3 kg) and assuming a 20 degree increase in temp (specific heat of 600 j per kg*K) is 36,000 kj. which is between 7 and 18 kj.

Page 91-92
The mastiff rarely relied on sight for tracking anyway. The air analyzers built into his torso had been state of the art when they’d been scavenged for his creation, and were still far better than just about anything in the hive. As nondescript as Bobo might be to the human eye, he couldn’t escape Wotan’s nose.
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Even though the trail seemed haphazard to Wotan’s visual sensors, his altimeter detected a near-constant increase in altitude as Bobo led him through dome after dome.
More on Wotan's tracking abilities. It's interesting that a number of examples suggest he's built from scavenged, nigh archaeotech/lost tech parts, which might explain the purely mechanical mind (something akin to the endeavour of will/Bastion Inviolate things from Architect of Fate)

Page 94
Somewhere deep down in his brain, he felt the urge to scratch his back, but there were no neural pathways for that particular command from his memory core to his legs, so he simply ignored the urge.
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Deep down in his processors, another odd command had been activated. The neural pathways for this command had been connected, and the metal mastiff had no choice but to comply with the mental order.
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..Wotan found himself sitting down, raising his nose up to point at the top of the dome and howling.
This would suggest Wotan actually has some sort of biological responses programmed into him somehow. either he has bits of organic dog brain in his makeup (like implied in FFG material for cyber mastiffs) or he has some sort of inorganically duplicated equivalent.

Page 99
..activated his chainsword. A thousand tiny blades began spinning along the length of the sword..
Number of blades on a Necromunda chainsword.

Page 102-103
As Kal walked towards the bed, he noticed something else odd about this situation. There were tubes connected to the body that led to upturned bottles hanging on pegs behind the bed.
There was also what looked like a medi-pack attached to the pale, sunken chest by a series of wires. This was like no medi-pack Kal had ever seen. It had a pict screen with little squiggly lines and numbers that flashed from side to side, and it beeped periodically.
Necromunda medtech.

Page 108-109
A dead Delaque, from the look of the armour, although her equipment seemed to be a step or two above what he normally saw in Hive City or the Underhive.
“Am I supposed to know her?” asked Bobo.
“I doubt it,” said Kauderer. “She’s strictly a Spire operative, an assassin actually.”
The lesser Houses have dedicated Spire operatives, who have considerably better tech than their lesser brethern (EG Underhive variations.) and the difference seems to be rather obvious (to Bobo at least) from a visual perspective. That would make sense - having a genuine holgraophic invisibility shroud rather than just a cloak that blocks EM and thermal emissions.

Page 110
His black helmet, which constantly reflected the images on his screens, was hooked by wires into the wall behind him. What those wires brought to the master spy, Feg had never dared ask. Perhaps messages from informants. Maybe data that he somehow routed directly into his brain, or some sort of medication or mind-altering drugs, although Feg doubted the latter. Nemo was far too serious to let his mind be altered in any way.
Nemo has MIU links apparnetly.

Page 111-112
Valtin held up his own hand, showing a small black box with an antenna at the top.
“It sends out a pulse that disrupts electro-magnetic fields,” he said, turning the gizmo over and over in his hand. “Handy in the spy business."
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Kal hadn’t really listened past the first sentence. “You broke my holo projector?”
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Kal pulled the holo-projector from his pocket and tossed it on the ground.
The holo device seems EM, which is a bit odd as a way to explain its invisibility but eh. IT cna also be disrupted by what I gather is EMP

Page 112
"Anyway, we rushed him to his doctors, but there was nothing they could do for him. The toxin had already begun shutting down messages from his brain to all of his vital organs. But we do have the most advanced medical tools on all of Necromunda at our disposal. These machines are the only thing keeping him alive. They breathe for him and pump his blood and everything else a body needs to sustain life.”
An explanation of the medtech from before. It only can sustain him a week, however.
Page 117
" most of the scummers were killed by explosions and I saw shell casings from a bolt launcher."
More bolt weapons ejecting casings :P
Page 125
Wotan’s air analyzers had been taxed almost to their limits. His body had actually heated up to the point that his paws sizzled slightly on the stone floor of the Hive City dome.
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Deep down in his visual cortex, synapses fired estimating the distance and trajectory. This information was transferred to his memory core and from there to the servos that controlled his legs. He jumped the twenty metres flawlessly, coming to a stop at the edge of the ledge.
Wotan can calculate and make 20 metre jumps. Also he seems to have no obvious means of cooling (which leads to interesting speculation about how he does cool himself off) but apparently the entire body heats up if his internal systems are overworked, which suggests they can be quite.. energetic.
PAge 129-130
Through an open fold in one of the curtains, Bobo caught the lingering purple bands of the setting sun streaking through the cloud cover. He’d spent a full hour in his apartment just watching the sun set. It was the most amazing sight he’d ever witnessed and he couldn’t believe all these people were so jaded they could ignore that natural wonder.
For them, it happened every day; it wasn’t a once in a lifetime opportunity. They ignored the natural blessings that their charmed lives provided for them, like fresh air, clean water and plentiful, warm sunshine, and instead had to frequent places like the Kitty Club to feel alive.
One of my favorite passages from a book. It actually made me stop and think - how often do I take time to look at a sunset? Which is not very often really. but to someone whose entire life is lived in the depths of an artificial habitat like a Hive, such a view is going to be rare and precious and bound to be awe inspiring, whilst the nobles clearly take it (and alot of the other advantages they have) for granted. A good deal of the book centers on the differences between up and down hive through Bobo's eyes, and how being rich and wealthy does not automatically make for a better person.

Page 136-137
nside were several picts of a high-ranking member of House Orlock, the Hive City family responsible for ninety percent of the refined iron ore produced in the hive.
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“That is the Greim estate. The Ko’Iron family would like to break that contract and force our own deal on the Orlocks.”
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“I want you to kill Davol and plant his head in the bed of princess Jillian Greim.”
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“The Hive City families are barely above those animals my brothers and I hunt down in the Underhive. But I would never go around killing real people, Spire people. That would be barbaric.”
First off, the economic tidbit. Orlock provides the bulk of iron ore used in Necromundan production, which of course indicates that despite all the fancy and even magical materials available to the Imperium, some things still require good ol fashioned iron and steel. Which is not a bad thing, neccesarily.
The other point is that the passage indicates Bobo encountering Spire politics and the rather dehumanised approach the nobles have . Reminds me a bit of the Vorlons and Shadows in B5 - 'play your games to achieve your own goals, and it doesnt matter how many lesser beings die in the process.' There is a certain.. alien.. approach to that mindset.

Page 139
Two metres from the door, she pulled out her laspistol and fired three quick shots, hitting the hinges and the latch. She raised one leg and kicked at the centre of the door, sending it flying into the street, trailing smoke from the holes she’d burned through it.
Laspistol puts holes through the door hinges and the latch so the door can be kicked out of its mountings. I'm guessing that means at least a few cm in diameter holes, and probably twice that thick through the door (the door was not metal though, 'simulated wood grain') Assuming non-thermal damage mechanisms and 1" wide, 1-2" thick holes drilled through each mounting point we're talking at least a good 5-10 kj per 'pulse', (or 10-20 kj for a 2" thick door) assuming structural steel.

Page 149-150
“You could shoot me,” he continued. “You might even kill me, but then I’d be on my way to Redemption at the right hand of the almighty, all-knowing Emperor, while you would just be a melted pile of slag. Your choice, really.”
Yoldanda and scabs would be a 'melted pile of slag' if she tried to shoot a redemptionist leader. We dont know what they are armed with (or how many) but melta weapons would not be out of line. It implies they have something fairly heavy (heavier than lasweapons at least) though.

page 164
“A box of chocolates — the real thing, not synth — from the duke of Ty, with an invitation to his table at the Grand Sky City Restaurant tonight. A set of silk pyjamas from Prince Gregor Ulanti with a note to join him at the Kitty Club. A gorgeous steel sword from someone in House Ran Lo with an attached note requesting me to appear before the Lord of the House. And a set of iron throwing stars from Princess Jillian of House Greim. I’m not sure if that one’s an invitation or a threat. But she does want to meet.”
“You did make quite an impression,”
"gifts" to bribe an effective assassin from rulers of many of the Noble houses. the synth vs real chocolate is interesting, but this also displays a certain sort of materialism in the upper level nobles which fits in with that whole 'up hive vs down hive' thing Bobo is subjected to. As this thread goes on he tends to get disillusioned and disgusted with the people he deals with.

PAge 173
“I am planning an excursion and wish to take a skilled hunter along with me.”
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“Into the depths of the Underhive,” said Gregor. His smile returned. “I take an annual trip down into the bowels of this massive city to hunt the most dangerous prey imaginable.”
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“The Underhive is full of gangs, you see,” he said as he passed his hands through his hair again. “Very dangerous they are, like cornered animals. Now, I normally go down in a spyrer rig, but lately that has lost much of its thrill, so I would like to go on a hunt with just my wits, a kevlar suit and my trusty heavy plasma gun. But I would like a professional along to protect me. Here’s the plan…”
Bobo’s eyes glazed over as Gregor outlined their itinerary using objects from the table to illustrate. He wondered why it seemed that every job these nobles had for him involved killing regular people. But, he realized, his question contained the answer: because they were nobles.
Some nobles feel spyrer rigs are too 'easy' and want to liven up their lives by increasing the difficulty (while not really putting themselves in danger of course.) Each one of the missions Bobo has is basically just a variation that means people in the Hive City or Underhive (who aren't really human beings to the Spire nobles) get hurt just to satisfy the whims and agendas of the nobles. The Greim Princess wanted to have the head of a ten year old girl put in her rival (Ko'Iron's) bed, this guy is planning to hunt underhivers, and as we learn later, Ty wants Bobo to blow up a factory for petty economic reasons.
Oh and the kevlar suit. Does he not think hivers use energy weapons too?
Page 183
He checked the levels on his laspistols and patted his pocket where he’d put Seek’s and Destroy’s extra power packs
Rare mention of power packs as extra ammo. Makes me think iether recharging lasweapons is so easy and fast underground that you don't bother, or the lasweapons themselves carry so many shots between rechargings that it is unnecessary.

Page 190
A moment later, Kal was standing behind the auto-cannon, which had been set up on a tripod. He whirled it around and began spraying the room with bullets. Guards dived and rolled or died where they were standing.
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To each side were several tables, presumably for the guards to use for eating and playing cards. The tables had been overturned to use as barricades, but they did little to slow the barrage of bullets from their own heavy weapon. A row of thick metal doors with small, bar-covered windows spanned the back wall of the room
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Even if he hit Katerin, the noble captain’s rig would surely protect him.
Tripod mounted autocannon. Kal thinks it likely an Orrus rig might stop that.

Page 191-192
“One more step and Mr. Feg’s head becomes a molten puddle of goo.”
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His shot flew true, blasting a meltagun right out of Nemo’s hand.
Meltagun to destroy Feg's head. We dont know how big it is or the composition, but its interesting either way.

Page 234
Mr. Smythe had furnished him with quite a nice weapon for his final assignment. It was a modified needle rifle with a combined telescopic and red-dot laser sight, along with a clip of especially virulent toxin darts.
high end needler rifle.
Page 241
“Pull him to his knees,” roared Ramone. “I want him to kneel before his better before I incinerate that little brain of his.”
Tried calcing this once before, doubt it would do any good. For one thing we dont know if incinerate means burn or cremate, how much of an area it would effect, or how many shots are involved. Even if it was single shot and burning, it could be single or double digit KJ to 'incinerate' (say 3rd degree burns.) But the second major problem is the guy saying that is fucking batshit insane. Still I include it in the off chance it might be taken literally One never knows :P
Page 245
He looked like a fit man of fifty, although by all accounts he was at least two hundred. Nobody else was alive from that long ago, so there was really no way to know his true age. He definitely looked much better than when Kal had seen him lying in bed being kept alive by tubes and wires.
Approximate (rather, lower limit) age on Helmwar and his physical appearance. Suggests at least that the anti-aging works at roughly 1/4th the normal rate.

Page 250-251
From there, it was just a matter of convincing Jenn’s five-minute Van Saar client that his lack of stamina would remain a secret if he could quietly book them passage on the next transport leaving Necromunda.
A thousand credits for bribes and another thousand for the Van Saar merchant to help keep his mouth shut after they were gone got them two seats on a transport, waiting to leave Hive Primus behind forever.
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Bobo didn’t relax until the transport left the Hive City docks and rocketed into the sky above the hive. He sat back in his seat for a moment and just breathed. He’d done it. He’d beaten the Spire and lived. He had close to fifty thousand credits in his bag along with several changes of clothing from Jackal Bristol’s wardrobe.
Bobo and his girl escape Necromunda forever. Interesting that a Van Saar might have the connections and influence to get off-world transport (even if under duress) - we dont get any indications that he's a particularily high up sort (not if he's partaking in an underhive brothel anyhow)

also interesting is Bobo's idea that his credits are good off-world. HE doesn't KNOW that for certain of course, and nor do we, but it would suggest credits are a fairly common unit of currency in the region of space Necromunda occupies at least. A few sources have suggested 'credit' as something of a common currency across the Imperium, so who knows, it might just be.
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