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Think Progress wrote:An evangelical Christian hate group called “Repent Amarillo” is reportedly terrorizing the town of Amarillo, Texas. Repent fashions itself as a sort of militia and targets a wide range of community members they deem offensive to their theology: gays, liberal Christians, Muslims, environmentalists, breast cancer events that do not highlight abortion, Halloween, “spring break events,” and pornography shops. On its website, Repent has posted a “Warfare Map” of its enemies in town.

Calling Repent an “American Taliban,” blogger Charles Johnson notes that the group’s moniker “Army of God” is a rough translation of “Hezbollah.” Led by a man named David Grisham, a security guard at a nuclear-bomb facility called Pantex, Repent first gained media attention in Texas following a campaign to boycott Houston for electing a gay mayor. The group, which is associated with Raven Ministries, collaborates with other Christian groups as well as forced pregnancy advocacy associations like “Bound 4 Life.”

According to a new exposé by the Texas Observer, Repent set out earlier this year to destroy a discreet club of swingers they discovered in town. On New Years eve, the harassment began, with Repent members, almost exclusively young men, showing up in military fatigues and bullhorns, blaring Christian music at the swingers’ club building. The swingers, made up of “regulars” of middle aged, working class couples, were then stalked at every following visit to the club. Repent not only took video of each member, but obtained the swingers’ license plates and dug through their trash, informing neighbors and coworkers of what was once private.

Repent has struck with some success at many of its enemies within the town. A community theater attempted to open “Bent,” a play about the persecution of homosexuals during Nazi Germany. But the day before opening night, Repent members helped shut down the play by calling in fire marshals to complain about the theater’s permit. Staffers at a nature preserve were featured on local news defending themselves against Repent accusations that their site represents something related to witchcraft.

But grassroots opposition to Repent is also building. A group called “Angel Action” has mobilized against Repent, and blogs and Amarillo-based Facebook groups are springing up to protest Repent’s hate.
Well this is a new level in scary. Militant young men dressing in paramilitary gear, calling themselves an "Army of God", and assembling a list of potential targets, both people and buildings. Where have I heard this before?

And here's a lovely video of these fine, upstanding Christian boys in action outside a private swinger's club, with voiceover by their dickless leader.



If you click the Think-Progress link, they have a link to this little group's website; it's a hoot! The warfare map is especially entertaining. I had no idea Amarillo had so many fine dens of iniquity. I can get my palm read, pray to the false god of my choice, and engage in sodomy, all within blocks of each other! I really must visit this hive of scum and villainy soon.
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What the hell is a 'forced pregnancy' advocacy association?
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:What the hell is a 'forced pregnancy' advocacy association?
I think that's Think Progress' way of referring to a pro-life/anti-abortion group.
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They may be calling Bound4Life (which absolutly sounds like a brand of bondage tape) a "forced pregnancy" group because they make no allowances for rape or incest abortions, advocating "adoption as a legitimate alternative to abortion regardless of circumstances."
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Here's a more in-depth article from the Texas Observer about Repent's battle with the legally operated Route-66 Swingers Club.

The actions of the local police force are laughable. Local DA says taking down license plate numbers, accesing registration info with that, stalking people, and outing them to their employers is all "free speech".
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We need gay activists (pink pistols?) to go plunk themselves out in public property in front of their churches (armed of course, I mean, it is Texas) and make out and grope to within a mm of the law. Counterprotest, give them some of their own medicine.
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Repent fashions itself as a sort of militia and targets a wide range of community members they deem offensive to their theology: gays, liberal Christians, Muslims, environmentalists, breast cancer events that do not highlight abortion, Halloween, “spring break events,” and pornography shops. On its website, Repent has posted a “Warfare Map” of its enemies in town.
Wait, what do they have against breast cancer events?
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Wait... how is this shit they're pulling legal? This isn't freedom of speech, this is systematic harassment with malice aforethought.

EDIT: Oh, right. TEXAS.
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Repent fashions itself as a sort of militia and targets a wide range of community members they deem offensive to their theology: gays, liberal Christians, Muslims, environmentalists, breast cancer events that do not highlight abortion, Halloween, “spring break events,” and pornography shops. On its website, Repent has posted a “Warfare Map” of its enemies in town.
Wait, what do they have against breast cancer events?
Well, from what I gather from the wording, they don't like anything regarding women's health awareness that doesn't turn into some spiel against abortion.
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The Solution is really quite fucking obvious.

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those and counter 'terrorize' them.

As others in this thread have said, I'm sure they'd love it if people cruised back and forth in front of their houses groping each other.

And remember, Texas allows you to carry loaded handguns in your vehicles as long as they're concealed!
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Wow. I haven't heard anything about this shit. Of course, that's probably because Amarillo is in the Panhandle and is one of the cities that's sprung up out of ass-end-of-nowhere that cover just about the entire state West of I-35, even if it's one of the largest ones.

That said, I'm pleased to see that there's this much, in the parlance of Austin, weirdness outside the major cities and that the groups being harassed are ready to fight back, though it's aggravating that they have to in the first place.

I wonder though, why aren't the city police and/or Sheriff doing something/more? Is there something in this we're missing? Some of the things they are doing are technically with in the law, complaining about the fire permit for example, but others seem to be more grey, at best. Standing on public property outside a place of business, even if they're swinging inside, is technically protected assuming they're not blocking traffic, etc., etc., but following those patrons and rooting through their trash is crossing a line. I wonder, were they reported at that point as causing a disturbance?

And if the police/Sheriff are turning a blind eye, it may be time to call the Rangers or even the FBI.
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I'm not sure what they're doing meets the definition of stalking as defined by the Texas penal code:

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Sec. 42.072.  STALKING.  (a)  A person commits an offense if the person, on more than one occasion and pursuant to the same scheme or course of conduct that is directed specifically at another person, knowingly engages in conduct, including following the other person, that:

(1)  the actor knows or reasonably believes the other person will regard as threatening:

     (A)  bodily injury or death for the other person;
     (B)  bodily injury or death for a member of the other person's family or household; or
     (C)  that an offense will be committed against the other person's property;

(2)  causes the other person or a member of the other person's family or household to be placed in fear of bodily injury or death or fear that an offense will be committed against the other person's property; and

(3)  would cause a reasonable person to fear:

     (A)  bodily injury or death for himself or herself;
     (B)  bodily injury or death for a member of the person's family or household; or
     (C)  that an offense will be committed against the person's property.

(b)  An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree, except that the offense is a felony of the second degree if the actor has previously been convicted under this section.

(c)  In this section, "family," "household," and "member of a household" have the meanings assigned by Chapter 71, Family Code.
It doesn't seem to rise to the level of Harassment as defined by law, either:

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Sec. 42.07.  HARASSMENT.  (a)  A person commits an offense if, with intent to harass, annoy, alarm, abuse, torment, or embarrass another, he:

(1)  initiates communication by telephone, in writing, or by electronic communication and in the course of the communication makes a comment, request, suggestion, or proposal that is obscene;

(2)  threatens, by telephone, in writing, or by electronic communication, in a manner reasonably likely to alarm the person receiving the threat, to inflict bodily injury on the person or to commit a felony against the person, a member of his family or household, or his property;

(3)  conveys, in a manner reasonably likely to alarm the person receiving the report, a false report, which is known by the conveyor to be false, that another person has suffered death or serious bodily injury;

(4)  causes the telephone of another to ring repeatedly or makes repeated telephone communications anonymously or in a manner reasonably likely to harass, annoy, alarm, abuse, torment, embarrass, or offend another;

(5)  makes a telephone call and intentionally fails to hang up or disengage the connection;

(6)  knowingly permits a telephone under the person's control to be used by another to commit an offense under this section; or

(7)  sends repeated electronic communications in a manner reasonably likely to harass, annoy, alarm, abuse, torment, embarrass, or offend another.

(b)  In this section:

(1)  "Electronic communication" means a transfer of signs, signals, writing, images, sounds, data, or intelligence of any nature transmitted in whole or in part by a wire, radio, electromagnetic, photoelectronic, or photo-optical system. The term includes:

(A)  a communication initiated by electronic mail, instant message, network call, or facsimile machine; and

(B)  a communication made to a pager.

(2)  "Family" and "household" have the meaning assigned by Chapter 71, Family Code.

(3)  "Obscene" means containing a patently offensive description of or a solicitation to commit an ultimate sex act, including sexual intercourse, masturbation, cunnilingus, fellatio, or anilingus, or a description of an excretory function.

(c)  An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor, except that the offense is a Class A misdemeanor if the actor has previously been convicted under this section.
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Since Texas is a state with the right to use a gun to defend yourself in your home, car, work place, wonder how long before one of these idiots get shot.
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dragon wrote:Since Texas is a state with the right to use a gun to defend yourself in your home, car, work place, wonder how long before one of these idiots get shot.
After reading what gizmo posted, and without a lawyer's or police officer's knowledge of the law, I would suspect it'll be a while. I'd go out on a limb and bet that they know exactly what they can get away with.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:We need gay activists (pink pistols?) to go plunk themselves out in public property in front of their churches (armed of course, I mean, it is Texas)
...if it's on their own private property. but surprisingly it is illegal to openly carry pistols in Texas. You can legally carry long guns though.
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Can't these hate mongers be charged with trespassing or something? Or better yet charged with a FEDERAL crime since the local cops are not doing a damned thing to protect these LEGAL institutions.
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I would imagine that they could be charged with trespassing if they'd actually committed that crime. Can you point to any example of them having done so?

The local cops can only take action when they actually break local laws. What federal crime would you suggest they be charged with? What federal crime have they committed?
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gizmojumpjet wrote:I would imagine that they could be charged with trespassing if they'd actually committed that crime. Can you point to any example of them having done so?

The local cops can only take action when they actually break local laws. What federal crime would you suggest they be charged with? What federal crime have they committed?
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It’s debatable whether all of Repent’s actions are legal. In January, six Repent members showed up at a weekend swingers party at the private home of Cristal Robinson, Route 66’s attorney. During the party, Robinson says the group trespassed on her property and tried to block cars from entering the driveway. She called the police. Sheriff’s deputies showed up, followed not long after by a state trooper.

The two law-enforcement groups apparently had different ideas about how to handle Repent, according to a Potter County incident report. The state trooper took photographs of the Repent vehicles and filled out suspicious activity cards, which go to the state’s intelligence center. The deputies, on the other hand, dismissed Robinson’s account and left Repent to carry on.

Meanwhile the trooper stayed nearby. Deputies later received a report that the DPS trooper was “harassing” Repent. The deputies returned to find four “extremely upset” Repent members. “Big John” Leinen complained to the deputies that the trooper had treated them “like some sort of terrorist group.” Grisham claimed that the trooper had assaulted one of his people and broke a piece off the group’s video camera. The trooper told deputies he had observed Repent going through Robinson’s dumpster and asked why the deputies “didn’t write the protestors [sic] a citation for ‘disturbing the peace’.” The deputy answered, “because they aren’t disturbing the peace.” Deputies asked the trooper to leave, and no tickets were issued.

The swingers were mystified: How did Repent find out about the party? The invited guests had been carefully screened; the event hadn’t been advertised online; and Robinson’s home is miles outside of town. Grisham claims he has an “inside source” but will say nothing more. With law enforcement on the sidelines, swingers have retaliated in other ways. Assault charges are pending against Monica Mead after Russell Grisham claimed he was assaulted outside the club. Mead contends she accidentally fell into Grisham. Charges were also filed against swinger Phillip Roark, who admits to slapping a video camera held by Russell Grisham.

Meanwhile, Repent has put the Meads on the brink of bankruptcy. Since the protests started last year, the Route 66 building has been rented just three times, forcing the couple to put it up for sale. For Repent, God had delivered a victory. The group snatched up a Web site the Meads had let lapse, Route66SwingersClub.com, and turned it into a call for “adulterers” to “Repent or Perish!”
There has got to be something in local or federal law that they can be charged with. :banghead:
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Not when the local police apparently think what they are doing is just fine and upstanding behavior. Fucking texas.
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They need to get DPS involved on this: the State Troopers, the Texas Rangers. Short of getting the Feds involved that's really their best bet.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:Not when the local police apparently think what they are doing is just fine and upstanding behavior. Fucking texas.
Alyrium, I'm all about getting the hate on for Texas, but crappy local police isn't something limited to Texas. In nearly any state that's largely rural, white, and conservative the local police are going to be part of the proverbial Good 'Ol Boys Club and they're going to have a clear bias in the matter.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:Not when the local police apparently think what they are doing is just fine and upstanding behavior. Fucking texas.
Alyrium, I'm all about getting the hate on for Texas, but crappy local police isn't something limited to Texas. In nearly any state that's largely rural, white, and conservative the local police are going to be part of the proverbial Good 'Ol Boys Club and they're going to have a clear bias in the matter.

Yes. It is indeed about getting the hate on for the state in which I reside.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:Not when the local police apparently think what they are doing is just fine and upstanding behavior. Fucking texas.
Alyrium, I'm all about getting the hate on for Texas, but crappy local police isn't something limited to Texas. In nearly any state that's largely rural, white, and conservative the local police are going to be part of the proverbial Good 'Ol Boys Club and they're going to have a clear bias in the matter.

Yes. It is indeed about getting the hate on for the state in which I reside.
Oh yeah, take a completely tongue in cheek statement and whine about it some more why don't you?
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Dude, I live in the state where significant portions of the population wanted to succeed from the union at the Governor's urging, and said individual just won the primary election by a landslide..
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You meant secede not succeed. I wouldn't bring it up, but it seems to be happening more and more on here.
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Texas lives up to its reputation of being filled with utter dumbfucks. Perhaps we should start a list of "very stupid shit that happened in Texas" and sticky it?
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