More Trektardism

EnterpriseSovereign · Post by **EnterpriseSovereign** » 2007-11-24 11:37am

I see what you mean, I guess they simply act like assholes in the vs thread. Most of the threads I see them in are fun ones. I guess it's hard when you see people that you get along with break all matter of debating rules

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-11-24 05:32pm

Now that we've won, lets just wait for the dust to settle...

Oh wait. We can't. They're using blowdryers to stir it up.

TC Pilot · Post by **TC Pilot** » 2007-11-24 06:39pm

It's better to just ignore Gojira. He's just an insecure moron with a thesaurus and has no real argument to speak of.

Funny enough, when I called him on the fact that he has over twenty-three thousand posts on that forum alone, he claimed he was getting paid.

EnterpriseSovereign · Post by **EnterpriseSovereign** » 2007-11-24 06:41pm

This is just annoying, when I call out the two guys that stepped in without knowing what they were dealing with by saying that they weren't helping matters, one of the guys has implied that I'm getting personal with him. I don't have any problems with him, he just doesn't seem to get it with regard to that thread

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2007-11-24 07:57pm

TC Pilot wrote:It's better to just ignore Gojira. He's just an insecure moron with a thesaurus and has no real argument to speak of.

Funny enough, when I called him on the fact that he has over twenty-three thousand posts on that forum alone, he claimed he was getting paid.

Indeed, when confonted on his statement about 'quality over quantity' he spewed out his love for Shakesphere. As if pooring over Shakesphere for meaning is any less geeky than the analyization of modern day entertainment.

Nothing like someone who looks down on another because his silly hobby is more 'intellectual' than yours.

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Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-11-24 11:56pm

JMSPock wrote:The tech issues very clearly favor Star Trek in most fields.

Damn, I guess its true what they say about Trektards...

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-11-25 01:22am

Knife wrote:
TC Pilot wrote:It's better to just ignore Gojira. He's just an insecure moron with a thesaurus and has no real argument to speak of.

Funny enough, when I called him on the fact that he has over twenty-three thousand posts on that forum alone, he claimed he was getting paid.
Indeed, when confonted on his statement about 'quality over quantity' he spewed out his love for Shakesphere. As if pooring over Shakesphere for meaning is any less geeky than the analyization of modern day entertainment.

Nothing like someone who looks down on another because his silly hobby is more 'intellectual' than yours.

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Ha! I bought the complete works of Shakespeare and read and enjoyed most of his plays, and am thus the only person interested in Julius Caesar when we read it in class (though that terrible voicetrack she plays makes even me nod off). I also enjoy chess and read 600+ page novels in two days if they're good. By his standards, I could compete with a university graduate.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2007-11-25 07:25am

It seems that JMSpock can't make a post without advertising his own board. Reading this makes me wonder if they are that desperate for new members that they are fishing at ST-com. (Spocky had built in hyperlinks so that people were directly brought on his board)

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as what happened to me, I nearly didn't survive my first foray into Stardestroyer.net and clashed with a few of the members at the time

Not surprising, but entirely unnecessary. As my board demonstrates quite well, it's possible to have debate about Star Wars and Star Trek without letting ad hominem attacks make up the bulk of the discourse.

It is also not necessary that boards either badger their members into complying with the groupthink, or leaving, as Stardestroyer.net has a tendency to as a community.

And what a shock, a direct attack on our board culture!

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-11-25 07:37am

Pff, didn't Mike say at some point or another that one of the whole points to this board is to allow such behaviour so that asshats like him don't get away with being asshats?

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » 2007-11-25 09:00am

TC Pilot wrote:It's better to just ignore Gojira. He's just an insecure moron with a thesaurus and has no real argument to speak of.

He certainly didn't seem to grasp simple statements like, "There will be no invasion."

He can't be all bad. He likes Who. But that's not saying much. I haven't seen Whotardism actually demonstrated (thank goodness), but I'm sure it exists out there somewhere. And there's porn of it, too.

Zablorg wrote:Pff, didn't Mike say at some point or another that one of the whole points to this board is to allow such behaviour so that asshats like him don't get away with being asshats?

Yes, I believe he did. To prevent the debates from degenerating into style-over-substance fallacyfests you see on Nanny Net boards. Or boards with "decorum" rules. You can be an asshat without violating "decorum."

Actually, we do have a decorum rule here: you don't insult each other's intelligence. You can't be an asshat without violating that.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-11-25 11:48am

Tribun wrote:
Moron kiddie wrote:It is also not necessary that boards either badger their members into complying with the groupthink, or leaving, as Stardestroyer.net has a tendency to as a community.
And what a shock, a direct attack on our board culture!

It's interesting how any time people agree on something, it must be "groupthink". Certainly, it can't be due to the fact that it's actually a logical conclusion, right? You'll notice that this is the same tactic used against global warming, evolution, the "mainstream explanation for 9/11", and anything else that morons dislike but can't find real flaws with.

There is such a thing as "groupthink", but it is characterized by arguments which are designed to "preach to the choir". Accusing people of groupthink solely for agreeing on something is a classic hallmark of conspiracy theorists and other fools.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2007-11-25 11:59am

I was actually going to put it as "According to them, not being a fucking retard=Groupthink".

EnterpriseSovereign · Post by **EnterpriseSovereign** » 2007-11-25 12:20pm

Darth Ruinus wrote:
JMSPock wrote:The tech issues very clearly favor Star Trek in most fields.

Damn, I guess its true what they say about Trektards...

The guy can't have paid any attention to any of the 190+ pages of the thread to still conclude that

Teleros · Post by **Teleros** » 2007-11-25 12:49pm

Be fair: he couldn't have paid any attention to have made any of the replies he has

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OmegaGuy · Post by **OmegaGuy** » 2007-11-25 02:05pm

I've seen Whotardism in the form of "The Timelords can beat anyone!!!!" (even though they lost to the Daleks), but at least they have more of a claim to say that than Trekkies who think the Federation beats anyone

EnterpriseSovereign · Post by **EnterpriseSovereign** » 2007-11-25 02:14pm

When I asked him about ground combat, this is what JMS had to say:

Actually, Federation ground equipment is one huge unknown. Accordingly, it's not worth talking about.

Except there is no ground equipment

lord Martiya · Post by **lord Martiya** » 2007-11-25 02:21pm

Well, some ground equipment is appeared: the handguns with the worst ergonomics of the sci-fi, the Type-III carbines, the FC assault rifles and the mighty Worfzooka. Sadly, the Worfzooka wasn't issued in the incident at AR-something, where it could be very useful.

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2007-11-25 02:38pm

lord Martiya wrote:Well, some ground equipment is appeared: the handguns with the worst ergonomics of the sci-fi, the Type-III carbines, the FC assault rifles and the mighty Worfzooka. Sadly, the Worfzooka wasn't issued in the incident at AR-something, where it could be very useful.

The Type-III phaser was almost as bad as the Type-II in usefulness and ergonomics and the "Mighty Worfzooka" caused little more than shrapnel and concussion damage to a small group of soldiers. The average fragmentation grenade would cause more painful injuries without landing right in the middle of their group, where the beam hit.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2007-11-25 03:01pm

OmegaGuy wrote:I've seen Whotardism in the form of "The Timelords can beat anyone!!!!" (even though they lost to the Daleks), but at least they have more of a claim to say that than Trekkies who think the Federation beats anyone

They mutually annihalated. And that's mostly because they dropped the ball, several times, on nipping that problem in the bud. They certainly had the capacity to destroy the Daleks before it got that bad, they failed, for various reasons, to do so.

While they can't beat 'anyone' (some of the more absurd Marvel Comics creations spring to mind) there's certainly very little in sci-fi they can't deal with.

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2007-11-25 03:37pm

lord Martiya wrote:Well, some ground equipment is appeared: the handguns with the worst ergonomics of the sci-fi, the Type-III carbines, the FC assault rifles and the mighty Worfzooka. Sadly, the Worfzooka wasn't issued in the incident at AR-something, where it could be very useful.

Don't forget the Ganstaruptor from Generations.

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-11-25 03:45pm

JMSpock wrote:The bombardment of the Death Star by Rebel cruisers happens after the Executor and Palpatine bit the dust.

Does anyone else see the problem with his statement?

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-11-25 03:49pm

Was he watching it in re-wind or something?

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-11-25 03:53pm

Zablorg wrote:What is it about Trek that causes so many brain-dead people to flock to it? Is it the funny theme music at the start?

Trek is pompous, therefore its important (in their eyes). Being attached to something important makes THEM important.

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-11-25 03:57pm

JMSpock wrote:most of that debris went into hyperspace according to the current EU explanation

Now, I havent heard this part, but, if the debris went into hyperspace, then, does this mean that the debris went FTL?

Doesnt this then, increase the Death Star's superlaser yield by... alot?

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2007-11-25 04:11pm

Darth Ruinus wrote:
JMSpock wrote:most of that debris went into hyperspace according to the current EU explanation
Now, I havent heard this part, but, if the debris went into hyperspace, then, does this mean that the debris went FTL?

Doesnt this then, increase the Death Star's superlaser yield by... alot?

No, that's not what the Death Star novel says, it says that "much" of the planet's mass was shifted into hyperspace. Besides, he's cherrypicking. The novel also states that the output of the Death Star's reactor equals weeks of output of several main sequence stars. And if anything, the feat of shifting the mass to FTL and the power requirements to do that speaks for itself.