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Especially as now Pike knows how NOT to handle Balance of Terror he can adopt Kirk's approach instead so that Spock doesn't get crippled (so he cannot carry out his actions in Reunification) and the Romulans don't invade the Federation.
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Maybe, but next season he's going to meet a time traveling Ensigns Mariner and Boimler, and who knows what future secrets those two are going to accidentally spill. Boimler isn't exactly good at not fanboying in the presence of famous Starfleet personnel in his own time period. Plus, Pike knows once he commits to his future, the ship is going to need a new captain anyway, so tutoring Jim Kirk for his future captaincy of the Enterprise makes sense, and would explain why Kirk is featured in the trailer prominently.
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I just hope they decide to make Jim Kirk canonically queer, purely because it would make a lot of old-school fans very happy and probably make William Shatner very unhappy.

I'd also give real money for an episode where the Gorn get a semblance of characterisation beyond generic sci-fi monsters, but that's probably wishful thinking on my part.
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Zaune wrote: 2023-05-28 11:09am I just hope they decide to make Jim Kirk canonically queer, purely because it would make a lot of old-school fans very happy and probably make William Shatner very unhappy.

I'd also give real money for an episode where the Gorn get a semblance of characterisation beyond generic sci-fi monsters, but that's probably wishful thinking on my part.
Good luck with that:
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EnterpriseSovereign wrote: 2023-06-02 02:05pm
Zaune wrote: 2023-05-28 11:09am I just hope they decide to make Jim Kirk canonically queer, purely because it would make a lot of old-school fans very happy and probably make William Shatner very unhappy.

I'd also give real money for an episode where the Gorn get a semblance of characterisation beyond generic sci-fi monsters, but that's probably wishful thinking on my part.
Good luck with that:
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Well Bi- and Pan-Sexual are a type of LGBTQ+ and they're not just "gays in disguise", so Kirk can be queer and not be gay.
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Given that people in the ST universe are having sex with alien species, some of which have entirely different gender set-ups, you'd think that the Humans would be over their quibbles with same-sex relationships.... but Humans aren't rational.
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Besides, there was apparently* enough subtext between him and Spock that people were picking up on it in the Sixties, so... *shrug*

And allow me to reiterate: It would really, really annoy William Shatner.

* I say "apparently" because I didn't really see it at the time, but then I haven't sat down and rewatched TOS since the 90s.
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Zaune wrote: 2023-06-03 07:17am Besides, there was apparently* enough subtext between him and Spock that people were picking up on it in the Sixties, so... *shrug*

And allow me to reiterate: It would really, really annoy William Shatner.

* I say "apparently" because I didn't really see it at the time, but then I haven't sat down and rewatched TOS since the 90s.
I've heard that too but I haven't seen it for myself. If anything they're Heterosexual Life-Partners, not forgetting Bones :lol:
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Zaune wrote: 2023-06-03 07:17am Besides, there was apparently* enough subtext between him and Spock that people were picking up on it in the Sixties, so... *shrug*
If it's anything like the shipping that goes on today, there's no guarantee that the people picking up on it are responding to anything that was on screen.
And allow me to reiterate: It would really, really annoy William Shatner.
I haven't been paying much attention to Shatner. Why does annoying him appeal to you ?
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Apparently Ol' Bill can be an abrasive personality and has that effect on a lot of people.
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Indeed. And he was on social media grumbling about how Trek had gone "woke" because... I honestly don't remember what specific plot point he was upset about, only that it was in Discovery of all shows.

This from the first white man to kiss a black woman on network television in the United States, and who had to intentionally sabotage several takes to make it happen.
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Zaune wrote: 2023-06-04 07:34am Indeed. And he was on social media grumbling about how Trek had gone "woke" because... I honestly don't remember what specific plot point he was upset about, only that it was in Discovery of all shows.
The thing in modern Trek most likely to anger people who complain about "woke" would be the nonbinary character getting referred to by they/them pronouns. So I'm not surprised that Discovery is what set him off.
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