Interesting Factoid about the War...

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-04-04 02:29pm

We could execute every Iraqi soldier we see wearing civilian clothes
over their uniforms, and be in the legal according to the
Geneva Convention

Just ask Otto Skorzeny's boys all about THAT

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-04-04 02:49pm

Anti-war freaks will say its not right

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-04-04 02:52pm

Remember, we are the good guys here....

Zoink · Post by **Zoink** » 2003-04-04 03:30pm

Can you find the appropriate line in the Geneva Conventions? I believe you are quoting an interpretation and not the conventions themselves.

The Geneva conventions require a trial

Art 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

further

Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal.

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-04-04 03:40pm

Although I understand what you're saying, there are 3 words that circunvent that:

Fog of War.

Queeb Salaron · Post by **Queeb Salaron** » 2003-04-04 08:29pm

Montcalm wrote:Anti-war freaks will say its not right

Proof:

>ahem<

"It's not right."
--QS

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2003-04-05 01:50am

Hypothetical situation:

Assume Mexico invades Southern California. Say I see a regiment of Mexican troops marching down my street. Suppose I pick a couple of them off with my rifle. Obviously, the rest of them will turn around and kill me.

Question: Would I be regarded as a civilian casualty?

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-04-05 01:53am

3rd Impact wrote:Remember, we are the good guys here....

Try telling that to the Iraqi people, or the Palestinians, or the Saudis, or the Syrians, or the Iranians, or the Turks, or the majority of Europe or...

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-04-05 01:58am

ok.

"look at it this way. no matter how bad it is, we will not all die. we have hoped for some other way but nothing has worked. twelve years ago it went almost all the way but failed. we cannot wait anymore. we want the war and we want it now."
anonymous iraqi.

"we can live by a higher standard. indeed we must because, well, we're the good guys. and what makes the good guys good is being better then the bad guys. it that sounds too simplistic to you, all I can say is, shame on you."
Jonah Goldberg.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-05 02:44pm

SPOOFE wrote:Hypothetical situation:

Assume Mexico invades Southern California. Say I see a regiment of Mexican troops marching down my street. Suppose I pick a couple of them off with my rifle. Obviously, the rest of them will turn around and kill me.

Question: Would I be regarded as a civilian casualty?

I'm not quite sure. Presumably you aren't wearing some sort of identifying mark, so you'd be an illegal combatant - but it probably depends.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-04-05 03:03pm

Thanks for that wonderful contribution, Shep.
Anyway, it is true that if you're a soldier intending to fight, you cannot be wearing anything other than your uniform, under the Geneva Convention. If a civilian is wearing a uniform, he is fair game. If a soldier is in civilian clothing and shooting, he is fair game, as well.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-04-05 03:22pm

SPOOFE wrote:Hypothetical situation:

Assume Mexico invades Southern California. Say I see a regiment of Mexican troops marching down my street. Suppose I pick a couple of them off with my rifle. Obviously, the rest of them will turn around and kill me.

Question: Would I be regarded as a civilian casualty?

No. You would either be a legal combatant or an illegal combatant.

You would be a legal combatant if you wore an identifying marker. This could be something as simple as, for instance, a white armband (which has been accepted as such customarily) or even a green leafed branch stuffed into your hat (which has again been accepted as such customarily). You would be an illegal combatant if you did not do so - Which would allow the Mexicans who are invading to execute you if they captured you, as opposed to simply killed you outright. It would just have to be something which clearly distinguishes you from the rest of the population.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-04-05 04:23pm

MKSheppard wrote:We could execute every Iraqi soldier we see wearing civilian clothes
over their uniforms, and be in the legal according to the
Geneva Convention

Just ask Otto Skorzeny's boys all about THAT

Fun.

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