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Re: Eckharts Ladder Star Wars lore

Posted: 2022-08-20 02:46pm
by Darth Yan
You can like the books certainly; from what little I was able to actually read online they had charm and usefulness. The problem is that a lot of the fanboys treat them as a religious text that can't be contradicted ever. Pablo's issue is that he got his start there, and so did his friends. His REAL reason for attacking tech fans is that they're criticizing stuff he and his friends worked on, and I think he took it personally. That he lies and goes "oh they're just being nerds and overly serious" is basically just him trying to mask his hypocrisy and that's irritating as hell.

Re: Eckharts Ladder Star Wars lore

Posted: 2022-08-20 07:22pm
by Galvatron
RogueIce wrote: 2022-08-20 12:11pmSo properly, it should be the Empire had at least 25,000 ISDs in service at the height of its power. With the true number being left to the imagination of the viewer/reader. Which is the best way to handle "the numbers" IMO.
IIRC, the 25k number originated in Specter of the Past:
A thousand systems left, out of an Empire that had once spanned a million. Two hundred Star Destroyers remaining from a Fleet that had once included over twenty-five thousand of them.

Re: Eckharts Ladder Star Wars lore

Posted: 2022-08-20 08:58pm
by Batman
No. The 25,000 number was around long before 'Spectre of the Past' as already indicated most likely from WEG gaming materiel.

Re: Eckharts Ladder Star Wars lore

Posted: 2022-08-21 01:23am
by Galvatron
Do you have a citation? If it was in a WEG sourcebook prior to SOTP, I certainly never noticed it. Neither did Curtis.

https://www.theforce.net/swtc/novels/sotp.html

Re: Eckharts Ladder Star Wars lore

Posted: 2022-08-21 08:06am
by Mange
Galvatron wrote: 2022-08-21 01:23am Do you have a citation? If it was in a WEG sourcebook prior to SOTP, I certainly never noticed it. Neither did Curtis.

https://www.theforce.net/swtc/novels/sotp.html
It's mentioned on pg. 118 in the rulebook for WEG's second edition of Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game from 1992. There's a section (a mini-sourcebook) with details on various ships and under "Imperial Star Destroyer" it says:
WEG 2nd Edition rulebook for Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game wrote:With over 25,000 of these awesome ships at his disposal, it is no wonder that Emperor Palpatine could instill fear in the hearts of the galaxy's citizens.
It was also inferred in the "Imperial Sourcebook" as it was stated that a sector fleet had 24 Star Destroyers (and I guess the info from there was made more specific).

Re: Eckharts Ladder Star Wars lore

Posted: 2022-08-21 07:56pm
by Galvatron
Thanks. I don't think I ever had that one, just the Imperial Sourcebook and the Dark Empire Sourcebook.

Re: Eckharts Ladder Star Wars lore

Posted: 2022-09-09 01:54am
by Marko Dash
It's fairly easy to rationalize the 25k figure without going into minimalism, that number could just be for ISD I's not including the Deuces, Tectors, or any of the other Imperator variants.

To go farther it could just be that it was the number ordered from KDY, and does not include ships produced at Fondor, Corellia, Eriadu, or any of the other shipyards.