Holy shit. Mac G5 Leak?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-06-20 12:53am

ArsTechnica thread

If this is real, Apple has just leapfrogged to the top of consumer computing.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-06-20 12:55am

Wait, I missed something. It says G4, right? Help me, I'm clueless.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-06-20 12:58am

It says G5 next to the main picture.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-06-20 01:00am

So...it...was...a...typo...? Right...?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-06-20 01:07am

There are a few possibilities ...
Apple's server was hacked by some rumor mongerers who want their stock to plummet.
One of the web monkeys at Apple made a boo-boo and is now looking for another job.
Steve Jobs wanted to play with the Mac faithful.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-06-20 01:13am

But... I'm still lost... one little error and its newsworthy enough to be posted at almost the same time by two members with many capital letters and exclamation marks?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-06-20 01:19am

Durandal & I are the rezident Mac fanatics (even though I run Windows). Those specs surpass any PC at the moment - P4, Opteron or Athlon. Quite impressive.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-06-20 01:27am

phongn wrote:Durandal & I are the rezident Mac fanatics (even though I run Windows). Those specs surpass any PC at the moment - P4, Opteron or Athlon. Quite impressive.

OK then. But I'll stick with my Alienware

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-06-20 01:28am

JediNeophyte wrote:But... I'm still lost... one little error and its newsworthy enough to be posted at almost the same time by two members with many capital letters and exclamation marks?

It's not a "little" error. It's Lord Jobs ascending to his rightful place.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-06-20 01:37am

phongn wrote:Durandal & I are the rezident Mac fanatics (even though I run Windows). Those specs surpass any PC at the moment - P4, Opteron or Athlon. Quite impressive.

Well I guess someone at Apple got the case of the Uber-Munchies. That's worse than me with my Rabid-Fiver Technowank...

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-06-20 01:37am

phongn wrote:Those specs surpass any PC at the moment - P4, Opteron or Athlon. Quite impressive.

How so? Dual P4s and dual Athlon motherboards exist, last I saw. The rest is quite decent, but nothing worth dual topics.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-06-20 01:38am

Am I reading that right? Did that say eight GIGS of Ram?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-06-20 01:40am

Holy shit, missed that part.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-06-20 01:43am

Howedar wrote:
phongn wrote:Those specs surpass any PC at the moment - P4, Opteron or Athlon. Quite impressive.
How so? Dual P4s and dual Athlon motherboards exist, last I saw. The rest is quite decent, but nothing worth dual topics.

The 970 is a floating-point monster of a processor, based on the POWER4. It's actually a 64-bit chip, but Apple may have locked it into 32-bit until the OS is ready. I don't know how it'll fair against an Opteron, but it's a safe bet that it'll destroy P4's and Athlons.

EDIT: That wouldn't make any sense. The machine can support 8 GB of memory by virtue of the chip's 64-bitness, so they've probably got the full 64 bits running there.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-06-20 01:54am

What i want for my next computer:

Quad 6.66 GHz Pentium V CPUs
GeForce6 TI 6400 4GB DDR RAM
16GB PC9000 QDR (Quad Data Rate) RAM
31" UltraVGA Flatscreen Monitor
8 Terabyte HDD
Dual 64x64x64x CD/DVD/RW/RAM Drive
500watt 8.1 Surround Sound
2000Watt PSU
Fast Ethernet hooked up to a T1 line.

How's that sound?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-06-20 01:59am

Um ... what does that have to do with anything?

By the way, I'm in the middle of arranging the sale of my eternal soul to Satan for one of those things. Negotiations are going smoothly.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-06-20 02:04am

For what? What the hell does somebody need with 8GB RAM and shit?

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-06-20 02:05am

Durandal wrote:Um ... what does that have to do with anything?

By the way, I'm in the middle of arranging the sale of my eternal soul to Satan for one of those things. Negotiations are going smoothly.

I was trying to design the Munchiest of Munch Technowank Uber Battleship of a computer...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-06-20 02:05am

Durandal wrote:Um ... what does that have to do with anything?

By the way, I'm in the middle of arranging the sale of my eternal soul to Satan for one of those things. Negotiations are going smoothly.

Traitor. You're drinking the Kool-Aid and sunning yourself in the RDF!

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-06-20 02:06am

Durandal wrote:The 970 is a floating-point monster of a processor, based on the POWER4. It's actually a 64-bit chip, but Apple may have locked it into 32-bit until the OS is ready. I don't know how it'll fair against an Opteron, but it's a safe bet that it'll destroy P4's and Athlons.

I would not be surprised if Opteron and PPC970 are at parity.

EDIT: That wouldn't make any sense. The machine can support 8 GB of memory by virtue of the chip's 64-bitness, so they've probably got the full 64 bits running there.

Not neccessarily. They could have extended memory addressing but not pointer size.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-06-20 12:15pm

Howedar wrote:For what? What the hell does somebody need with 8GB RAM and shit?

You've never used OS X, have you?

At this point, I could easily make full use of 2 GB of memory.

phongn wrote:Traitor. You're drinking the Kool-Aid and sunning yourself in the RDF!

It's good to have pride in being a Mac user again.

I would not be surprised if Opteron and PPC970 are at parity.

Neither would I, but the 970 is a monster floating point chip. The Opteron might lag slightly, though I can see the Opteron pulling ahead in integer ops. The Opteron also has an integrated memory controller, as well. The jury's still out on whether or not the G5 will have one, but the specs listed a 1 GHz "processor bus," which could hint at the memory controller being part of the CPU.

Not neccessarily. They could have extended memory addressing but not pointer size.

That's true, but why bother going through the effort of locking the chip into 32-bit mode and then extending the 32-bit pointer size so your chip can support as much memory as it naturally should be able to? The modifications to Jaguar to get it running on the 970 are essentially trivial, and while they'll keep the OS running in 32-bit mode, they don't entail locking the chip that way.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-06-20 12:17pm

phongn wrote: If this is real, Apple has just leapfrogged to the top of consumer computing.

Right

I'll believe it when I see the assload of games being released right NOW
for Mac...oh that's right, there isn't any.

IL-2 Sturmovik: PC only
Steel Panthers WW2/MBT: PC only
Panzer Campaigns by HPS: PC only
and lots lots more

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-06-20 12:20pm

Apple sucks balls. Always has, always will. For my purposes, that is, which is gaming.

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2003-06-20 02:03pm

JediNeophyte wrote:Wait, I missed something. It says G4, right? Help me, I'm clueless.

Well yeah, it's a G4 system, but dual 2 GHz PowerPC chips? A gigahertz processor bus and up to 8 GB of RAM? Jesus fucking Christ on sunny Sunday afternoon that's some powerful juju. You'd expect those sort of specs on a dual processor server, not some Joe Schmuck's desktop.

Pound for pound those would be the fastest desktops on the market. Except they happen to be Macs, and you'll have to pay a whole lot for 'em.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-06-20 02:24pm

MKSheppard wrote:
phongn wrote: If this is real, Apple has just leapfrogged to the top of consumer computing.
Right

When I mean consumer computing, I'm referring to general design rather than hardware. (e.g. a personal computer versus an IBM minicomputer)

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