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What I want to know is can Federation technology genetically engineer a super soldier along the lines of Rogan Brogar, what features would this soldier be capable off, and which alien will they use for genetic material

One has to wonder, where Federation-law was then (thinks about a certain doctor).

At age six, Bashir was small, not very bright and a bit physically awkward, for his age. In the first grade, while the other children were learning how to read and write and use a computer, Julian was was still trying to tell a dog from a cat and a tree from a house.
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In 2348, just before Julian's seventh birthday, the Bashir family left Earth for Adigeon Prime. At first, he was excited to see all the aliens in the hospital, but then they gave him a room and started a series of treatments. These treatments, known as "accelerated critical neural pathway formation," was a method of genetic engineering that involved the resequencing of his DNA.
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The focus of his "enhancements" were to increase his mental abilities: his IQ jumped five points a day for over two weeks. Further treatments led to improvements in his hand-eye coordination, reflexes, vision, stamina, height, weight. In the end everything but his name had been altered in some way.

Patrick Degan wrote:If the Federation's genetic engineering efforts are run the same way their warp engineering efforts are, their super-soldiers would have the unfortunate tendency to explode if they got so much as a paper-cut.

the .303 bookworm wrote:
That's quite probable considering Fed biology's "stability"

Bounty wrote:I'd just like to point out that Bashir suffered no side-effects from his genetic engineering,

NecronLord wrote:

Bounty wrote:I'd just like to point out that Bashir suffered no side-effects from his genetic engineering,

If you closed the flapping arse that is your mouth and engaged your brain, assuming that you have one, you would note that Bashir is the exception to the norm. The norm are those idiots with no social skills who can magically tell what Gul Dukat had for breakfast, remember?

According to production info from TMP,

Uraniun235 wrote:Is it possible the social misfits are a result of their illicit nature?

Otherwise, it's pretty pathetic that the 24th century cannot match the 20th century's genetic engineering.

Uraniun235 wrote:Is it possible the social misfits are a result of their illicit nature?

Otherwise, it's pretty pathetic that the 24th century cannot match the 20th century's genetic engineering.

On the other hand, Kahn and his gang could be composed entirely of Bashirs, i.e. the ones who turned out to be as stable as self declared princes with ambitions of global dominion can possibly be. Most of the rejects that Bashir was introduced to would be of little use to Kahn and thus their 20th century equivalents would be the last ones picked to accompany him on Botany Bay.

NecronLord wrote:Oh. He means pie-in-the-sky Star Trek Genegeneering.

Well. Put simply.

Bashir's Gang of Misfits: Tampered with post-natally.
Kahn's lot: Tampered with from the get go.

VT-16 wrote:According to production info from TMP, there´s a Federation member race who can clone an army in short time to fight for the Federation. Unfortunately, this info seems to disappear with any future series.

Darth Wong wrote:Most of the physical enhancements that people wank about in "super-soldier" threads are actually of relatively little use to a real soldier. Perhaps the most important characteristic is discipline, and I don't know if you can really genetically engineer that into somebody, unless you make major changes to his basic human nature.

Darth Wong wrote:Most of the physical enhancements that people wank about in "super-soldier" threads are actually of relatively little use to a real soldier. Perhaps the most important characteristic is discipline, and I don't know if you can really genetically engineer that into somebody, unless you make major changes to his basic human nature.

mr friendly guy wrote:There was an episode in TNG where the Enterprise encounters Rogan Brogar and other aliens who were genetically engineered to fight.

What I want to know is can Federation technology genetically engineer a super soldier along the lines of Rogan Brogar, what features would this soldier be capable off, and which alien will they use for genetic material

Zor wrote:Disipline/Loyalty is nothing we need to increase. Baseline Humans durring the second world war were ordered and willing to (among other things) Crash Planes into Ships and sit in holes with aircraft bombs and a hammer, wait for a tank to ride over and smash the bomb till they explode.

You can make super soldiers, just Geneticly engineer a Better General Human and make shure that a good size chunk of the population gets them. You get both better soldiers and around the moral crap about rasing people spacificly to be soldiers.