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[Berman] You still have much to learn about the darkside, my young apprentice[/Berman]Rick Berman felt that complaints about guest stars in the series finale of Star Trek: Enterprise were not warranted, but his co-writer Brannon Braga said that he understood why the show's actors might have been upset.
I sure hope they provided examplesIn a new Dreamwatch interview posted at Sci Fi Pulse, the two executive producers said that they had worked all along to maintain continuity with previous Star Trek shows,
something they tried to do as well in "These Are the Voyages..." Berman admitted, "There were some grumblings about the fact that we brought Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis in from another series" to reprise their roles as Riker and Troi. "The feeling was that if this was going to be the finale of Enterprise, then why bring characters in from another series? But I think when people see the episode and realize what we were able to truly do - which is pay the respect to our characters the way we have - I think it's going to receive a very positive response
[Braga]The episode wasn't 'bad' the timing of it was[/Braga]Braga noted that those who have been critical of the episode were probably agitated already about it being the final installment of the series and that the unique concept might have been better appreciated under other circumstances.
The producers also felt that, while the fourth season of the series received a lot of attention for utilizing elements from the other Star Trek shows, it was an extension of what had been done all along. "We did always feel we were utilizing continuity from the original series," Braga said.
Berman: Crap! it looks like this will be the last season"It wasn't until the fourth season when we - Rick, myself and Manny Coto - consciously decided to go deeper and stronger with that,
You never heard of "The Oringinal Series"but we never thought we weren't doing it.
Maintaining continuity would have improved the ratings a bit.Should we have gone stronger with the continuity elements earlier...who knows if that would have increased the ratings?"
Ah..I seeFor his part, Berman insisted that Trek canon is not always as clear-cut as some viewers might suggest.
I would definately like to learn where they got this information, it seems that they may actually be listening"There have been a lot of fans that have discussed the fact that Brannon and I have ignored the continuity of Star Trek and ignored canon," he said.
[Berman/Braga] ...We are the all mighty, all that will be and shall be, WE ARE STAR TREK! [/Berman/Braga]"That could not be farther from the truth. We live and breathe this continuity
"bend the rules a little bit", Why?and we're dealing with every element to try to keep a continuity going, but at the same time to create an entertaining series on a weekly basis year after year...we have to bend the rules a little bit."
[Berman/Braga] Well... Well... Welll back in the day...they didn't keep continuity so why should we? [/Berman/Braga]He added that some of Star Trek's own storylines contradict them
selves.
... that's it... .
I'm inThe Guid wrote: I'm forming an alliance to topple them. So far I have one house, a stapler, a pencil and a lot of anger... anyone with me?
Now now, you can always bring it out and watch your enemies laugh themselves helpless. Then while they're rolling on the ground, you can stab them with a d'ktahg at your leisure.Uraniun235 wrote:*smirk* I think calling a bat'leth "fight usable" may be slightly inaccurate.Solauren wrote:I offer my collection of real-fight usable swords, including a full-sized Battle'eh and reinforced Claymore.
Y'know, that makes sense, in an 80s office politics kinda way. It's pretty low.Alyeska wrote:Talking with Chris O'Farrell I've realized a sad fact. Manny Coto was brought into Trek for the sole purpose of failing. B&B hired him and then shackled him with leg irons. When ENT still didn't do well B&B used Coto's failure as a statement that ENTs failure couldn't be placed on themselves. Furthermore with Coto supposedly being in charge, ENTs ultimately failure could not be pinned on B&B. Meaning they get off scott free and can still shit on Trek.
It's the corporate mentality, which in our era has become pinned to the ethos that whoever dies with the most toys wins and the hell with everybody else.Stark wrote:Y'know, that makes sense, in an 80s office politics kinda way. It's pretty low.Alyeska wrote:Talking with Chris O'Farrell I've realized a sad fact. Manny Coto was brought into Trek for the sole purpose of failing. B&B hired him and then shackled him with leg irons. When ENT still didn't do well B&B used Coto's failure as a statement that ENTs failure couldn't be placed on themselves. Furthermore with Coto supposedly being in charge, ENTs ultimately failure could not be pinned on B&B. Meaning they get off scott free and can still shit on Trek.
GL definitely one that fight then didn’t he.Patrick Degan wrote:It's the corporate mentality, which in our era has become pinned to the ethos that whoever dies with the most toys wins and the hell with everybody else.Stark wrote:Y'know, that makes sense, in an 80s office politics kinda way. It's pretty low.Alyeska wrote:Talking with Chris O'Farrell I've realized a sad fact. Manny Coto was brought into Trek for the sole purpose of failing. B&B hired him and then shackled him with leg irons. When ENT still didn't do well B&B used Coto's failure as a statement that ENTs failure couldn't be placed on themselves. Furthermore with Coto supposedly being in charge, ENTs ultimately failure could not be pinned on B&B. Meaning they get off scott free and can still shit on Trek.
Well Lucas does have the advanatge of being the founder and head of a company that holds pretty much all the rights to his creation. (correct me if I'm wrong but Fox only has the rights to distribute the films)Drunk Monkey wrote: GL definitely one that fight then didn’t he.
Are you fucking kidding me! What the hell could be more evil to Trek then Bremen or Barga?FedRebel wrote:Well Lucas does have the advanatge of being the founder and head of a company that holds pretty much all the rights to his creation. (correct me if I'm wrong but Fox only has the rights to distribute the films)Drunk Monkey wrote: GL definitely one that fight then didn’t he.
Berman was one of two canidates Paramount forced on Roddenberry, since Paramount holds all the cards Roddenberry had little choice and selected the "lesser" evil.
Michael Moore?Drunk Monkey wrote:Are you fucking kidding me! What the hell could be more evil to Trek then Bremen or Barga?FedRebel wrote:Well Lucas does have the advanatge of being the founder and head of a company that holds pretty much all the rights to his creation. (correct me if I'm wrong but Fox only has the rights to distribute the films)Drunk Monkey wrote: GL definitely one that fight then didn’t he.
Berman was one of two canidates Paramount forced on Roddenberry, since Paramount holds all the cards Roddenberry had little choice and selected the "lesser" evil.
How so? He’s just a fat democrat with a lot of fucking cash.Matt Huang wrote:Michael Moore?Drunk Monkey wrote:Are you fucking kidding me! What the hell could be more evil to Trek then Bremen or Barga?FedRebel wrote: Well Lucas does have the advanatge of being the founder and head of a company that holds pretty much all the rights to his creation. (correct me if I'm wrong but Fox only has the rights to distribute the films)
Berman was one of two canidates Paramount forced on Roddenberry, since Paramount holds all the cards Roddenberry had little choice and selected the "lesser" evil.
Phht, he's just a pompous ass who goes about doing a good thing in a very, very wrong way.Michael Moore?
It makes perfect sense to me; I would not be suprised if they did just that. Face it, both of them are weasely little shits that have done less to work on the show than whore out the name Star Trek for whatever cash they could. If they weren't adept at office politics they would have been starving in a gutter somewhere long ago.Alyeska wrote:Talking with Chris O'Farrell I've realized a sad fact. Manny Coto was brought into Trek for the sole purpose of failing. B&B hired him and then shackled him with leg irons. When ENT still didn't do well B&B used Coto's failure as a statement that ENTs failure couldn't be placed on themselves. Furthermore with Coto supposedly being in charge, ENTs ultimately failure could not be pinned on B&B. Meaning they get off scott free and can still shit on Trek.
