Is the Quran scientific?

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2002-11-25 10:07am

The answer is (naturally) NO!! Where the fuck do they get these delusions from? Must be this site:

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Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-25 10:21am

Creationism in an Islamic flavour.

Enter requisite flames and death.

Next.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 11:20am

It might have some scientific facts. That doesn't make it scientific though in the same way that containing historical facts doesn't make the Bible historical.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-25 12:12pm

The Koran is just as scientific as the Bible. And Bugs Bunny cartoons.

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2002-11-25 12:45pm

Darth Wong wrote:The Koran is just as scientific as the Bible. And Bugs Bunny cartoons.

That's pretty much exactly what I told my muslim friends. They didn't believe me though and told me about how many scientists that have read the koran and then converted to islam, because "they realised that it was true". Hmm, yeah right...

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-11-25 12:46pm

Dooey Jo wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The Koran is just as scientific as the Bible. And Bugs Bunny cartoons.
That's pretty much exactly what I told my muslim friends. They didn't believe me though and told me about how many scientists that have read the koran and then converted to islam, because "they realised that it was true". Hmm, yeah right...

Wow. The lies people will tell these days.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-25 01:15pm

Many fundamentalist Muslims do actually teach the Koran as though it were scientific. When I lived in Saudi Arabia, one of the nation's leading educators believed that the Earth was flat (it says so in the Koran). Further, some Muslim science books state things to the effect of "When two moles of Hydrogen gas and one mole of Oxygen gas are combined, with the blessing of Allah and his permeating greatness, two moles of water are gleaned."

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 01:15pm

Dooey Jo wrote:That's pretty much exactly what I told my muslim friends. They didn't believe me though and told me about how many scientists that have read the koran and then converted to islam, because "they realised that it was true". Hmm, yeah right...

And have they stated who the credible scientists were?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-11-25 01:25pm

If memory serves, Islam teaches that a scientist created all the evil in the world through cross-breading. I'd hardly call that supportive of science.

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2002-11-25 01:36pm

neoolong wrote:
Dooey Jo wrote:That's pretty much exactly what I told my muslim friends. They didn't believe me though and told me about how many scientists that have read the koran and then converted to islam, because "they realised that it was true". Hmm, yeah right...
And have they stated who the credible scientists were?

Of course they haven't.

Oh, and by the way, they just threatened me that if I didn't stop saying they are wrong, they will beat the crap out of me!

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-25 01:47pm

Dooey Jo wrote:
neoolong wrote:And have they stated who the credible scientists were?
Of course they haven't.
Oh, and by the way, they just threatened me that if I didn't stop saying they are wrong, they will beat the crap out of me!

Wow, they are so convincing.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-11-25 05:00pm

What are they going to do next in the Middle East? Stone the round-earthers?

As for atomic bonds being the work of Allah:

It's similar to Christians who believe Evolution was an act of God, but this is applied to something far smaller.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-11-25 05:34pm

Unless Allah is supersymmetrical, I fail to see how he could be responsible for atomic bonding.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2002-11-25 07:16pm

DIDN'T YOUR READ!?! He Blesses The atoms and ALLOWS them to bond

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-11-25 10:53pm

Allah appears to have a rather menial, repetitive job. Manually controlling all of the chemical reactions in the universe would seemingly consume all of a deity's spare time.

Perhaps Allah should have stayed in school and got a degree, then he would have one of the better upper-management divine positions instead of what is clearly an entry-level factory-floor manual-labour position.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-11-25 11:28pm

ALLAH: Ah dammit, these protons aren't sticking together! JESUS! They're doing that thing again!
JESUS: Oh, fuckin' Hell, I've explained this to you before. PUT THEM IN A FUCKING STAR. Man, some people...

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-11-25 11:39pm

Allah: puts protons in a porn star.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2002-11-26 12:02am

Master of Ossus wrote:Further, some Muslim science books state things to the effect of "When two moles of Hydrogen gas and one mole of Oxygen gas are combined, with the blessing of Allah and his permeating greatness, two moles of water are gleaned."

If that's the way Islam teaches science then what kind of fuckup do they make with engineering?

"When oxygen and hydrogen are brought together in a confined space and ignited, with the blessing of Allah and his permeating greatness, an explosion occurs and the infidels are killed. God is Great."

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2002-11-26 12:04am

Darth Wong wrote:Allah appears to have a rather menial, repetitive job. Manually controlling all of the chemical reactions in the universe would seemingly consume all of a deity's spare time.

Perhaps Allah should have stayed in school and got a degree, then he would have one of the better upper-management divine positions instead of what is clearly an entry-level factory-floor manual-labour position.

Well, after all, Allah only came on the scene when the Cosmic Economy was undergoing a serious recession. So many Deities were becoming unemployed at the time and money just wasn't what it was, you took whatever job you could get. And the pay wasn't enough for Allah to be able to stay in school to get that all important piece of paper or make those Divine Contacts.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2002-11-26 12:04am

Master of Ossus wrote:Many fundamentalist Muslims do actually teach the Koran as though it were scientific. When I lived in Saudi Arabia, one of the nation's leading educators believed that the Earth was flat (it says so in the Koran). Further, some Muslim science books state things to the effect of "When two moles of Hydrogen gas and one mole of Oxygen gas are combined, with the blessing of Allah and his permeating greatness, two moles of water are gleaned."

2 moles of water? My science is a bit rusty, but shouldn't it be one?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-26 12:09am

Exonerate wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:Many fundamentalist Muslims do actually teach the Koran as though it were scientific. When I lived in Saudi Arabia, one of the nation's leading educators believed that the Earth was flat (it says so in the Koran). Further, some Muslim science books state things to the effect of "When two moles of Hydrogen gas and one mole of Oxygen gas are combined, with the blessing of Allah and his permeating greatness, two moles of water are gleaned."
2 moles of water? My science is a bit rusty, but shouldn't it be one?

No. The formula for Oxygen gas is O2. Thus, for every mole of Oxygen gas, two moles of Oxygen atoms are gleaned. Those form two moles of H2O, with four moles of Hydrogen gleaned from two moles of Hydrogen gas (H2).

data_link · Post by **data_link** » 2002-11-26 12:11am

Exonerate wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:Many fundamentalist Muslims do actually teach the Koran as though it were scientific. When I lived in Saudi Arabia, one of the nation's leading educators believed that the Earth was flat (it says so in the Koran). Further, some Muslim science books state things to the effect of "When two moles of Hydrogen gas and one mole of Oxygen gas are combined, with the blessing of Allah and his permeating greatness, two moles of water are gleaned."
2 moles of water? My science is a bit rusty, but shouldn't it be one?

You are forgetting that each molecule of hydrogen and oxygen contains two atoms. Thus 2H2 + O2 = 2 H2O

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2002-11-26 12:12am

What I meant was doesn't two atoms of Hydrogen + one atom of Oxygen make Water (H2O)? I'm pretty sure I got this right... If not... Boku wa b4k4^2 desu.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-11-26 12:16am

Exonerate wrote:What I meant was doesn't two atoms of Hydrogen + one atom of Oxygen make Water (H2O)? I'm pretty sure I got this right... If not... Boku wa b4k4^2 desu.

You are correct, but my original post clearly stated one mole of Oxygen GAS and two moles of Hydrogen GAS.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2002-11-26 12:22am

Oops... Sorry, my mistake