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Part of being in a communist nation is that the State is entitled to take all your good ideas and share them amongst the Greater Good, without necessarily giving you compensation.

Offhand, I can't think of an example of such forced sharing extracted from an ordinary Fed civilian.

In fact, when Geordi and Dr. Leah Brahms went crawling around in a Jeffries Tube and remarks about the mid-range phase adjuster...His invention... she seems mildly astonished.

Senior officers on a Fed Flagship don't have to share the goodies with the rest of the fleet?

The state organization and economic valuation isn't clear, so judging these things may be difficult.

montypython wrote:The state organization and economic valuation isn't clear, so judging these things may be difficult.

Joke of the week!

IIRC in First Contact, Zefhram Cochrane didn't received the fortune he expected from his invention. Instead, they decided to built him some crappy statue to "honor" him.

Artists has the right to control their work in the Federation, whether that holds true for inventors isn't known.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:IIRC in First Contact, Zefhram Cochrane didn't received the fortune he expected from his invention. Instead, they decided to built him some crappy statue to "honor" him.

Where did you get that from?

Enola Straight wrote:Part of being in a communist nation is that the State is entitled to take all your good ideas and share them amongst the Greater Good, without necessarily giving you compensation.

Offhand, I can't think of an example of such forced sharing extracted from an ordinary Fed civilian.

In fact, when Geordi and Dr. Leah Brahms went crawling around in a Jeffries Tube and remarks about the mid-range phase adjuster...His invention... she seems mildly astonished.

Senior officers on a Fed Flagship don't have to share the goodies with the rest of the fleet?

Although it's not cannon, Federation citizens must receive some sort of compensation. How else would they barter with non-Fed worlds.

Dr. Crusher says in the first Episode to 'charge her account.'

Riker on several occassions has latinum.

We rarely see civilians on Fed planets and how they exchange goods and services so we can only speculate.

The only logical explination in my mind is that there has to be some method in which people are compensated. I look at the Fed as socialism gone to an extreme.

Thus, intellectual property is still yours. However, just as when you go to work and create a new concept, build something, develop a new process, the company owns the concept. Thus Geordi's invention is Star Fleet property.

In Author, Author, the Dr. was going to I believe sell his holo novel to a publishing house.

And in Voyagers final episode Paris had left SF and was writing and selling holo novels.

Therefore it seems logical to me that some monetary system exists beyond what has been explained in dialogue -- but yet Earth and other Fed planets are some sort of extreme socialistic system.

It's kind of hard, if not impossible, to judge this. There's never any example of popular culture, and really, how often do we see something good invented? The exocomps had the complication of becoming sentient. The mining beam thingy from the ep was still being tested, IIRC. I don't know the details of the Doctor's book.

I'd disregard Geordie's messing with the E-D. He jury rigged it a little to get slightly better performance. People screw around with their cars all the time and don't patent crap. I know it's not a perfect analogy but it's close enough IMHO. Brahms was probably just annoyed that Geordie was messing with her design.

Bullshit alert: saying that something is your invention does not prove that you get royalties for it.