Generations - SE DVD

Sidious · Post by **Sidious** » 2004-10-05 06:45pm

IGN has a review of the SE dvd for Generations up.

Initially I was not even going to consider picking this up as I picked up that TNG movie box set with Generations, Insurrection, and First Contact in it a few years ago before they started the SE upgrade for the TOS movies.

But after reading this I may just consider it:

The Extras

The commentary featuring writers Ron Moore and Brannon Braga is simply the best Star Trek commentary ever recorded. Not only because the true Braga is shown, where he knows nothing about Star Trek, but because Ron Moore is one of the best writers the show had and the commentary is more of a reflection on the Next Gen series than a very detailed breakdown of the movie.

There's so much for Next Gen fans here. Did you know that Brent Spiner doesn't like cats, but every cat that played Spot immediately loved him and would jump in his arms? The commentary is filled with things like that, as well as Moore and Braga looking back at what it was like to write the first Next Gen movie and how the story developed. Perhaps the best moment is at the end where Moore talks about filming the final scene with Picard and Riker on the destroyed bridge set and how that moment was the real goodbye to the series.

The commentary might be worth the purchase. I have a lot of respect for Moore, most of his work on TNG and especially DS9 was decent and in modern Trek writing terms thats a rare thing. Plus any insight on Braga's attitude towards Trek could be entertaining.

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2004-10-05 09:16pm

This sounds good for a change! I almost have to buy it now...which is bad becasue I hate giving B&B money... grr this is hard...

I guess price will settle it... like it always does

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-10-06 05:07am

Even with a commentary I wouldn't class Generations as worth it. At most I'd rent it, and listen to the commentary that way. But buy it? Hell no. I regret buying Star Trek IV; how do you suppose I'd feel about buying Generations?

And listening to Brent Spiner's cat problems doesn't sound like a commentary worth listening to.

Sidious · Post by **Sidious** » 2004-10-06 04:20pm

Hell no. I regret buying Star Trek IV

Why? Just never cared for the movie?

And listening to Brent Spiner's cat problems doesn't sound like a commentary worth listening to.

lol, well Im more interested in hearing Moore and Braga talk about Trek in general than misc trivia like that but yea I see what your saying.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-06 04:58pm

ST2 and ST4 ruled (one of the very few good time travel episodes). ST6 was awesome. Generations was...okay. ST5 and 3 sucked...I would regret buying THOSE, but not 4

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2004-10-06 09:48pm

Bah, I don't honestly understand people's beef with Generations

I found it emotionally moving, very complex and overall surprisingly good.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-10-06 09:54pm

I'll rent it for the commentary...as for buying I still have a problem that well the story hinged arounda really wacky guy who can make uber weapons...wanting to go into a really shiny space object yet doesn't take a shuttle and ram himself.

Seriously they just kept adding things and just as quickly resolving them just to I dunno...give it spice?

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2004-10-07 12:33am

What are you getting at there GR? Really shiny space object..shuttle..ram himself...

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-10-07 12:55am

Ghost Rider wrote:I'll rent it for the commentary...as for buying I still have a problem that well the story hinged arounda really wacky guy who can make uber weapons...wanting to go into a really shiny space object yet doesn't take a shuttle and ram himself.

Seriously they just kept adding things and just as quickly resolving them just to I dunno...give it spice?

I've always wondered why Soran didn't just BEAM himself into the Nexus.

Deathstalker · Post by **Deathstalker** » 2004-10-07 01:28am

praxis wrote:I've always wondered why Soran didn't just BEAM himself into the Nexus.

Because that would be to simple, and as we know, nothing is ever made simple on STNG!

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-10-07 01:38am

Sidious wrote:
Hell no. I regret buying Star Trek IV
Why? Just never cared for the movie?

It wasn't as good as I remember it. I remember it being funny, then when I bought the DVD and watched it again it was just... sucky. Jokes have a limited shelf life. There comes a point where the jokes just stop being funny.

I bought it along with ST2 and 3, as it was a sort of trilogy. When I watched them in sequence it just seemed to me that ST4 was really weak. Plus I didn't like the plot contrivance of the mysterious BUT POWERFUL whale probe coming to earth and stopping everything. For no reason. And then going back into the past to pick up some humpback whales to placate the probe, after analysing the probe 'song' for a couple of minutes and somehow concluding it was calling to whales (because the signal, when played in a watery medium, sounds like a whale sound). It was a HUUUUUGE stretch, and I didn't appreciate it as a result.

Plus they were on a Klingon Bird of Prey - I was hoping they would use it to kick someone's arse.

lol, well Im more interested in hearing Moore and Braga talk about Trek in general than misc trivia like that but yea I see what your saying.

Have they said anything interesting beside the trivia example?

Sidious · Post by **Sidious** » 2004-10-07 03:34pm

I always found it odd that a Klingon computer had detailed information about animal species on Earth. Unless they were tapping into a starfleet computer remotley or something.

Have they said anything interesting beside the trivia example?

Dunno, but if I end up picking this up Ill post an overview of what they talk about.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-10-07 03:37pm

They might have uploaded Federation files while at Vulcan.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2004-10-07 04:28pm

Sidious wrote:I always found it odd that a Klingon computer had detailed information about animal species on Earth. Unless they were tapping into a starfleet computer remotley or something.

There is an old Klingon saying: It is good to know the flora and fauna of your enemies homeworld.