Remans v Klingons(TNG+) v Jem'Hadar

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2004-06-06 12:08pm

You have an army of Jem'Hadar and an army of Remans and an army of honorable Klingon Warriors, which one would you rather have fighting your wars?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-06-06 12:29pm

The Jemhader of course. Unlike the Remans they have no weakness against light nor do they have a fetish for melee weapons like the Klingons.

Jemhader can be produced en masse quickly by cloning technology so it is possible to raise a Jemhader army quickly. They are absolutely loyal to their masters due to Ketracel white and will never rebel or refuse to take orders. All this makes them superior to Klingons or the Remans

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-06-06 12:56pm

The only disadvantage the Jem'hedar there is that they are far more tied to their logistical train than either the Klingons or Remans since they rely on Ketracel White or they weaken and die. Since they don't tend to carry very much with them, if the Reman/Klingon force can siege them, they can beat them.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-06-06 10:56pm

Jem'Hadar. Of the three they're the most impressive, which is saying quite a lot.

Remans suck. They go to the bottom of the pile, automatically.

Klingons when they fight are feral and animalistic, baring their teeths and roaring and so on, generally acting like walking penises. They regularly eschew ranged combat in favour of melee slug fests, with all the grace of a drunken boxer (NOT the Jackie Chan kind

). Their ships, while they look cool, aren't as impressive as other Trek ships. Their melee weapons suck, with the exception of that dagger of theirs. They're at best dogmatic and preach their peculier form of 'honour', while at worst mindlessly brutal and thuggish.

Jem'Hadar fight with controlled rage, they rarely (if ever) go feral. They're almost always calm and patient, even in the grips of withdrawal (though you can see the effects on performance once you take it away). THey can shroud, which may be a 'simple' technological device that somehow requires mental acuity (the Jem'Hadar suffering from withdrawal in "Rocks and Shoals" couldn't shroud themselves, meaning I assume it has something to do with concentration or perhaps some property inherent within the KC-white, or perhaps BOTH). As long as a supply of KC-white is available, and the war is prosecuted competently (ie making sure the logistics and supply lines remain safe and secured) then the Jem'Hadar are the best out of the three. There's also the fact they can be bred like rabbits.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-06-07 02:51am

Picard mentioned the Remans were used as canon fodder during the war. I wonder how did they Romulans came up with enough Remans to fight a clone army like the Jemhader which could produced much more quickly on a larger scale.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-06-07 02:53am

evilcat4000 wrote:Picard mentioned the Remans were used as canon fodder during the war. I wonder how did they Romulans came up with enough Remans to fight a clone army like the Jemhader which could produced much more quickly on a larger scale.

You're forgetting that the Jem'Hadar lost their primary source of KC-white in "A Time To Stand," which probably curbed Jem'Hadar replenishment somewhat.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2004-06-07 01:14pm

evilcat4000 wrote:Picard mentioned the Remans were used as canon fodder during the war. I wonder how did they Romulans came up with enough Remans to fight a clone army like the Jemhader which could produced much more quickly on a larger scale.

The Remans are slave laborers mining a resource that the Romulan Empire really doesn't need (they use QSC's instead of Warp Cores). It wouldn't be too hard to take a bunch out of the mines and throw them in front of the enemy (transport aside).