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Alternative to the Kirk vs Picard battle. Assume each has an Avenger / Miranda class starship with no special crews.

I'm not sure there's enough room in one universe for both their overacting at once. Spacetime is torn in two via some kind of quantom singularity, no one wins.

Kitsune wrote:Alternative to the Kirk vs Picard battle. Assume each has an Avenger / Miranda class starship with no special crews.

This one goes to Sisko. He's got that almost fanatical intensity during the later seasons of DS9. He even fired biogenic warheads into a Maquis colony to stop Eddington. In comparison, the worst Kirk ever did was stab his enemies in the back.

It also bears mentioning that Sisko actually served on a Miranda class.

Metrion Cascade wrote:It also bears mentioning that Sisko actually served on a Miranda class.

Well, the Miranda is also closest to the connie in general configuration. Lets be nice, we will give Sisco a Miranda and Kirk a Connie but not the Enterprise

They would both sit there exchanging heated (yet PG-13) words before engaging in a vicious battle with lots of twinklers and lightballs.

Then for no apparent reason other than sloppy writing, they would both beam down to a nearby planet, hit each other with phaser rifles instead of shooting each other, and just when you think Kirk's had enough, Sisko accidentally rips Kirk's shirt.

Kitsune wrote:

Metrion Cascade wrote:It also bears mentioning that Sisko actually served on a Miranda class.

Well, the Miranda is also closest to the connie in general configuration. Lets be nice, we will give Sisco a Miranda and Kirk a Connie but not the Enterprise

The Connie doesn't have the military bias of the Miranda. And it's a hell of a lot less robust structurally.

I think this was done before . I recall posting a thread about this.

Sisko takes it. Kirk isn't as aggressive as Sisko. Kirk may be sneakier but sneakyness doesn't do you a lot of good when your dead, and you ship floats broken in half.

Metrion Cascade wrote: The Connie doesn't have the military bias of the Miranda. And it's a hell of a lot less robust structurally.

I was suggesting it to see if he would do better, if not.....never mind

Winston Blake wrote:They would both sit there exchanging heated (yet PG-13) words before engaging in a vicious battle with lots of twinklers and lightballs.

Then for no apparent reason other than sloppy writing, they would both beam down to a nearby planet, hit each other with phaser rifles instead of shooting each other, and just when you think Kirk's had enough, Sisko accidentally rips Kirk's shirt.

Unfortunately, if it's Bald Sisko, even Kirk's ripped shirt's not enough to overcome the Hawk factor. Bald Sisko simply channels Hawk (From Spenser For Hire) and his badassness prevails.

I can't believe this thread. Kirk would win easily.

Sisko is a hothead and at times out of control. Kirk would easily push his buttons, Sisko would over extend himself, and Kirk would smack him down.

Wicked Pilot wrote:I'm not sure there's enough room in one universe for both their overacting at once. Spacetime is torn in two via some kind of quantom singularity, no one wins.

The universe is far stronger than you think. It resisted Palpatine "Dark Evil Overlord" (TM) thing and Anakin-Amidala "Love Story". Although barely, it will survive this.

Wicked Pilot wrote:I'm not sure there's enough room in one universe for both their overacting at once. Spacetime is torn in two via some kind of quantom singularity, no one wins.

This can be dismissed as the universe managed to survive the DS9 remake of the tribble episode.

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:

Wicked Pilot wrote:I'm not sure there's enough room in one universe for both their overacting at once. Spacetime is torn in two via some kind of quantom singularity, no one wins.

This can be dismissed as the universe managed to survive the DS9 remake of the tribble episode.

but that wasn't Sisko overacting. It was Sisko pertty much worshipping his idol.

Are we talking a DS9 era Miranda? I believe Kirk would simply beam to Sisko' ship, where he'd meet him in a holodeck simulation and get bummed for 4 hours, by Sisko- but love it, while Sisko screamed manically, in that death defying screechy voice he belts out "The Prophet, The Prophets".

All around them, would be multiple gay fests between TOS/DS9 crew- Garek would be going for it with Sulu, Worf would be riding chekov while dressed as Stalin and Quark would be tickling scotty between the cheeks.

in the end, Sisko would have pounded Kirk right through the ripped T-Shirt stage and into oblivion, considering he is now exists outside of linear time.

Sisko was like a 24th century Samual "Bad motherfucker!" Jackson.

Sisko would probably waste his damn time looking for some magic trick shot that would knock out Kirk's ship in one blow, and while he sets up for his trick shot, Kirk takes the opportunity to lay into Sisko with everything he's got.

KIRK:
"We tried it once your way. Are you game for a rematch?

Sisko, I'm laughing at the 'superior' ego."

Metrion Cascade wrote:The Connie doesn't have the military bias of the Miranda. And it's a hell of a lot less robust structurally.

That said, it is, in the TMP novellisation, said to only be a Heavy Cruiser due to politics, as, given that it's the most heavily armed ship in the fleet re-designed to take on the new Klingon battleships, it should really be called a battleship. In that light, it's probably more heavily armed than the Miranda...