Evacuation of Kronos?

[Trogdor]

In ST VI, one of the Klingon speakers mentions the "evacuation of Kronos" which, according to the Klingon, should take place in 50 Earth years. In TNG, however, the "Klingon homeworld" (I'm not sure they ever actually came out and called it Kronos) was still by all indications a heavily populated world still being used as the Klingon capital. Is this supposed to be an adopted home planet or Kronos? And if it's Kronos, was there ever any explaination as to why it wasn't evacuated or was it just ignored by the writers?

[seanrobertson]

Trogdor,

That sounds interesting, but do you know where we could get a transcript of those lines? That'd be immensely helpful.

[Trogdor]

Sadly, no, I just heard some Klingon say it while watching the movie. I'll look.

[NecronLord]

Remember TUC was written after TNG started. Thus the Kronos (SP?) in TNG is presumably Kronos II.

[neoolong]

The real Klingons all left, and what we see are the people that immigrated to Kronos and decided to call themselves Klingons.

Hence the difference in character between the TOS and movie and TNG and beyond.

[JME2]

The Lost Era novels do not shed any more light on the situation. As far as I can tell, the Federation and Klingons were sucessful in patching up most of the ozone damage, though how and when remains to be seen.

[CDiehl]

I had assumed the Klingons accepted the Federation's help in fixing whatever was wrong with Qo'NoS. As for why they didn't try to evacuate, their economy was probably lousy, and an evacuation was far beyond their capabilities. With Federation help, they could potentially bear the costs of a program to make Qo'NoS livable again, but the moving of an entire population, which I assume is in the billions, to another planet is too much for them. It's not just the cost of moving people and their belongings, there's also the cost of:
planning and building new cities for them to live in
surveying the planets of the Empire to find suitable sites for these cities
providing enough food, water and energy for them wherever they are settled
moving and finding suitable new locations for various Klingon cultural treasures (like historic buildings and monuments) that they'd want to move
handling the environmental damage that can come from tens or hundreds of millions of people suddenly settling on a planet
the risk of a rebellion while this move takes place

These are all costly in time and resources, and the Klingons only have a finite amount of each.

[Sarevok]

The real Klingons all left, and what we see are the people that immigrated to Kronos and decided to call themselves Klingons.

Hence the difference in character between the TOS and movie and TNG and beyond.

Quite possible. That would explain the remarkable physical diffrences between TOS Klingons and TNG Klingons.

[Howedar]

With the nasty ugly atmosphere in TNG I always assumed it was the same Kronos.

[Drooling Iguana]

The radiation from Praxis probably just caused some severe brain damage among the Klingons.

[Tribun]

The radiation from Praxis probably just caused some severe brain damage among the Klingons.

Brain-dead would be more accurate.....

[General Zod]

The real Klingons all left, and what we see are the people that immigrated to Kronos and decided to call themselves Klingons.

Hence the difference in character between the TOS and movie and TNG and beyond.

Quite possible. That would explain the remarkable physical diffrences between TOS Klingons and TNG Klingons.

except that some of the klingons in the TOS era are shown as being alive and having ridged foreheads in the TNG era, which sort of blows that theory out of the water.

[Gil Hamilton]

Quite possible. That would explain the remarkable physical diffrences between TOS Klingons and TNG Klingons.

Keep in mind that they made the design changes to Klingons before ST6. They were changed for the Motion Picture.

[neoolong]

The real Klingons all left, and what we see are the people that immigrated to Kronos and decided to call themselves Klingons.

Hence the difference in character between the TOS and movie and TNG and beyond.

Quite possible. That would explain the remarkable physical diffrences between TOS Klingons and TNG Klingons.

except that some of the klingons in the TOS era are shown as being alive and having ridged foreheads in the TNG era, which sort of blows that theory out of the water.

Alternate universe. Whenever anything that breaks continuity happens, it's because of an alternate universe.

[General Zod]

the lost era books (if that's where you're getting the idea from) aren't exactly considered canon, so may very well be the equivalent of an AU, but eh.

[neoolong]

Actually I made it up. I have only read something like 2 ST novels.

[General Zod]

ah. i haven't read much in the way of star trek novels myself (except for one or two) so i wasn't sure where that idea was coming from.

[Enola Straight]

The cloaked planet full of artists who tried to abduct the E-D children to repopulate the culture (whew...that's not a whoosh ) had ozone damage causing the adult population to go sterile.

Enterprise was able to re-seed the ozone layer with apparent ease, so the ability to fix Qo'nos' atmosphere is within the Klingons' capability.

[Lord Pounder]

How do you figure that? Your taking 2+2 and getting 10. The Klingons have never been as techincally adept as the Federation just as the Federation of the TNG era wouldn't be as adept at the situation as it's TUC era. My guess is that in the TNG episode they used the techniques perfected in the salvation of of the Klingon homeworld, but those techniques would have taken time to develop.