Just who is the E-Es tactical/security officer??

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-01-17 08:04am

Who??
Worfs always there in the movies but he's supposed to be Fed ambassador to kronos dammit. Ok he has an almost satrisfacttory reason to be there in Nemesis and FC. But in Incurection. wtf? He went on holiday to the enterprise???????

I feel sorri for the guy. He always gets replaced by worf when ever anything important happens, we never learn is name. was he even in the conference at the beginnig of FC??

Who is he?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-01-17 08:24am

It is possible many of the Enterprise-Es adventures are not shown in the movies. So whoever he may be the Enteprise-E security officer does get his share.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-01-17 10:39am

In FC, which role was Lt. Hawk? He could've been the security officer?

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-01-17 11:12am

Lieutenant Daniels. He was in both First Contact and Insurrection. He is the Enterprise's security chief and weapons officer. I was rather irritated he was left out of Nemesis and Worf was suddenly part of the crew again. I rather hoped to see Daniels as a LT Commander now leading some rather well trained security troops.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2004-01-17 11:25am

Is there any pictures of Daniels?

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-01-17 11:37am

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-01-17 03:30pm

and yet was daniels in on the FC conference? i don't remember seeing him.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-01-17 04:20pm

Crazedwraith wrote:and yet was daniels in on the FC conference? i don't remember seeing him.

Daniels wasn't senior enough among the crew. Daniels is verly clearly the security chief and tactical officer. He had this role in both First Contact and Insurrection.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-01-17 04:36pm

Alyeska wrote:
Crazedwraith wrote:and yet was daniels in on the FC conference? i don't remember seeing him.
Daniels wasn't senior enough among the crew. Daniels is verly clearly the security chief and tactical officer. He had this role in both First Contact and Insurrection.

That makes no bloody sense!! He's a senior officer and yet he's not senior enough to be invited to the conferrence? I'm not questioningthat he's l cheif of security i'm just noting the stupidy of the FC producers.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-01-17 05:18pm

That's bitch and bastard for you.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-01-17 05:22pm

Crazedwraith wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
Crazedwraith wrote:and yet was daniels in on the FC conference? i don't remember seeing him.
Daniels wasn't senior enough among the crew. Daniels is verly clearly the security chief and tactical officer. He had this role in both First Contact and Insurrection.
That makes no bloody sense!! He's a senior officer and yet he's not senior enough to be invited to the conferrence? I'm not questioningthat he's l cheif of security i'm just noting the stupidy of the FC producers.

Daniels is not a senior officer. He is a mere Lieutenant, an O3. Picard was odd in how he treated some of the junior officers when he first took command of the Enterprise. However, by the time he had established himself he primarily talked with his senior staff. Notice how his lowest ranked senior staff member is a Commander.

Daniels is the security chief and tactical officer. This does not automaticaly mean he is a senior officer. He was apparently put on the Enterprise-E due to his skill and possible knowledge of the Sovereign class and/or his security training. Picard didn't yet know the man and he wasn't a senior officer so he was not let treated as such. Even still, Riker and Picard did seem to treat Daniels with some due respect for his job.

HappyTarget · Post by **HappyTarget** » 2004-01-19 05:06am

What I find peculiar is that he wasn't invited into a pre battle conference of the Ent-E's department heads when he was the chief of security/tac officer of the ship. A good captain would have included him in such a discussion even if he didn't feel completely comfortable with his new officer simply because of what he could potentially contribute to the conference. In essence Picard snubbed him for some reason IMHO, which doesn't seem very in character.

That makes no bloody sense!! He's a senior officer and yet he's not senior enough to be invited to the conferrence? I'm not questioningthat he's l cheif of security i'm just noting the stupidy of the FC producers.

That's bitch and bastard for you.

Quite.

Kerneth · Post by **Kerneth** » 2004-01-19 12:49pm

I'm not too familiar with real-life navies, but wouldn't someone holding a position like "Chief Tactical Officer" (or the wet-navy equivalent, given that I've never heard this term anywhere but on Star Trek) be considered a senior officer onboard ship by default? That seems a fairly important position to me, on a vessel that is expecting to see combat. I realize that Starfleet "is not a military organization", and that humanity has "evolved beyond using violence to settle disputes", but Picard's seen enough of the bad and the dirty that you would expect him to realize that the real galaxy doesn't work the way Starfleet Command might want it to.

Of course, the fact that Starfleet would fold the positions of Chief of Security and Chief Tactical Officer together tells you something about their mentality. That and the fact that someone trained as a tactical officer can't reach a rank to command a starship. Perhaps Starfleet is scared to death of its Captains being good tacticians as well as good diplomats?

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2004-01-19 01:27pm

Worf was only a lowly lieutenant in the beginning and he was in senior officer meetings.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-01-20 01:51am

The chief tactical officers duty is to fire the ships weapons while the chief security officer handles onboard security. These are totaly different things and it is amazing why Starfleet would assign the same person to both positions. In real life I dont think navies assign people who fire missiles to security jobs.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-01-20 01:52am

The chief tactical officers duty is to fire the ships weapons while the chief security officer handles onboard security. These are totaly different things and it is amazing why Starfleet would assign the same person to both positions. In real life I dont think navies assign people who fire missiles to security jobs.