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I am sure that a lot of people have seen these around since the DS9 Technical Manual has been out for several years now but I don't remember seeing these patches posted here and I always thought they were pretty cool.

Someone should turn them into Avatars. That Defiant one is really kickass.

They'd certainly be good additions to the Trek portion of the avatar gallery.

Would you still be able to see them clearly if they were made into avatars?

So, Santa uses runabouts now? =P

neoolong wrote:Would you still be able to see them clearly if they were made into avatars?

Easily. Someone at SB.com onced used the Defiant one as an Avatar and I could still read Assimilate This! and they had a smaller Avatar at that.

easiest way that i've found to make such a large image into an avatar: if you have windows xp view it with thumbnail mode in its folder, then take a screenshot. copy/paste the screencap into paint, and cut out the square thumbnail. bam, instant avatar that should meet the size and file restrictions of most webboards.

They're both pretty cool, but the Defiant one defininately kicks arse. They ought to paint that image on the side, above the words USS Defiant.

It would look even better if someone could change the white background into transparent. That way the nose of the Defiant spills out of the Avatar but the background remains whatever the page is set on.

This is the avatar I made of the Defiant one.

I can't read the message on this small version too bad

BTW ... are there any more of these?

I think those are the only two of that style that are in the DS9 Tech Manual.

There are some patches of the Starfleet and the UFP symbols.

What is all that crap in the bag the Runabout is carrying?

There's a couple of guns and what looks like a guitar in there, that I can see.

The Defiant one looks great. They should used it as an insignia on Fed ships in the Dominion war.

They look cool, but they seem rather un-Trekish to me compared to what you see on the show.

neoolong wrote:They look cool, but they seem rather un-Trekish to me compared to what you see on the show.

More like unit insignias of WW2 fighter squandrons. Notice the shark teeth on the Defiant, IIRC seeing something like that painted on WW2 fighters.

Yeah, it just seems rather out of place.

Like on Babylon 5, you have custom paint jobs on fighters and the like. Stuff like that didn't seem to happen in the Federation.

Got to love those oversized phaser cannons.

I dunno, I think it could reflect the personality of the teams that were on the respective development projects. The Runabout project was, I'd bet, a comparatively small operation, and as such they probably a) didn't take their project as "seriously" as a bigger starship project, and b) were probably all able to agree on a patch which is more aesthetic.

Similarly, the Defiant project probably had a majority of the more militaristic Starfleet personnel, and as such they were more agreeable to a more badass patch.

On the other hand, a gigantic mass of bureaucracy such as the Galaxy Class project was probably so huge that nobody would agree on any sort of art to represent it, so they went with the comparatively bland patch seen in the TNG TM.

Gil Hamilton wrote:This is the avatar I made of the Defiant one.

Very nice, but I'll stick with mine