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So I am watching BoBW and I hear one of thier plans was to unleash nanites (tiny machines that enter and kill cells) on the Borg.

How do you think this would have reacted to the nanoprobes?

Borg nanoprobes would likely have squashed any nanities the feds tried to put into the collective.

Maybe not. Borg nanites can be defeated by Species 8472 immune system. If the Feds figure that out they could copy the function.

Trogdor wrote:Borg nanoprobes would likely have squashed any nanities the feds tried to put into the collective.

We didn't hear of the nanoprobes til first contact, maybe they didn't have them yet.

Trogdor wrote:Borg nanoprobes would likely have squashed any nanities the feds tried to put into the collective.

Since the Federation's nanites were described as small enough to enter living cells, and Borg nanorpobes are significantly bigger than blood cells, that statement might not be literately inaccurate.

evilcat4000 wrote:Maybe not. Borg nanites can be defeated by Species 8472 immune system. If the Feds figure that out they could copy the function.

It would be interesting to see how one would argue the Federation could realistically be expected to get Species 8472 bio material to analyse without employing plot holes or incredible luck. Particularily since one Species 8472 bioship alone can dust fifteen Borg cubes, and the entire Federation virtually loses to one...unless, again, employing plot holes or luck.

Robert Walper wrote:

evilcat4000 wrote:Maybe not. Borg nanites can be defeated by Species 8472 immune system. If the Feds figure that out they could copy the function.

It would be interesting to see how one would argue the Federation could realistically be expected to get Species 8472 bio material to analyse without employing plot holes or incredible luck. Particularily since one Species 8472 bioship alone can dust fifteen Borg cubes, and the entire Federation virtually loses to one...unless, again, employing plot holes or luck.

Nope, 8472 ships are unshielded, anti matter spread would make for a nice energy burst

Shrykull wrote:
Nope, 8472 ships are unshielded, anti matter spread would make for a nice energy burst

You sure about that, they seemed to have hull hugging shields when the Borg fired on them.

TheDarkling wrote:

Shrykull wrote:
Nope, 8472 ships are unshielded, anti matter spread would make for a nice energy burst

You sure about that, they seemed to have hull hugging shields when the Borg fired on them.

I assumed he was joking and actually knew that.

Robert Walper wrote:

Trogdor wrote:Borg nanoprobes would likely have squashed any nanities the feds tried to put into the collective.

Since the Federation's nanites were described as small enough to enter living cells, and Borg nanorpobes are significantly bigger than blood cells, that statement might not be literately inaccurate.

"Significantly bigger"? I thought that in VOY: Scorpion it showed them latching onto blood cells, and they they were slightly smaller? Might be wrong though, been a while since I saw that episode.

Robert Walper wrote:

TheDarkling wrote:

Shrykull wrote:
Nope, 8472 ships are unshielded, anti matter spread would make for a nice energy burst

You sure about that, they seemed to have hull hugging shields when the Borg fired on them.

I assumed he was joking and actually knew that.

No I didn't actually, where was this in scopion, etc?

TheDarkling wrote:

Shrykull wrote:
Nope, 8472 ships are unshielded, anti matter spread would make for a nice energy burst

You sure about that, they seemed to have hull hugging shields when the Borg fired on them.

Species 8472 ships are not shielded since Voyger was able to use nanite based weapons against them.