Do citizens of the Federation have private starships?

Mlenk · Post by **Mlenk** » 2003-12-28 04:51pm

In SW we see that it's relatively easy if you have the money to have your own private ship. Have any of you ever seen people in the Federation own or have their own private ship?

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2003-12-28 04:55pm

Mlenk wrote:In SW we see that it's relatively easy if you have the money to have your own private ship. Have any of you ever seen people in the Federation own or have their own private ship?

Yes. Okana ran his own ship. From the TNG episode "The Outrageous Okana"

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-12-28 04:55pm

Crazedwraith wrote:
Mlenk wrote:In SW we see that it's relatively easy if you have the money to have your own private ship. Have any of you ever seen people in the Federation own or have their own private ship?
Yes. Okana ran his own ship. From the TNG episode "The Outrageous Okana"

And in TOS Harry Mudd has a ship too.

Mlenk · Post by **Mlenk** » 2003-12-28 04:58pm

Since money isn't used in the Federation how do they get them then? Do they just reqeust one or something?

Gunshy · Post by **Gunshy** » 2003-12-28 05:02pm

Perhaps they barter with other races for a starship.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2003-12-28 05:04pm

Crazedwraith wrote:
Mlenk wrote:In SW we see that it's relatively easy if you have the money to have your own private ship. Have any of you ever seen people in the Federation own or have their own private ship?
Yes. Okana ran his own ship. From the TNG episode "The Outrageous Okana"

Could be a ship of the Federation she got to work on her "warp theories"...

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-12-28 05:13pm

Mike points out a lack of private starships indicates the Federation might be a communist society. We dont see much in the way of private corporations at all in TNG.

Another question about how you aquire a private starship, is how do you aquire living quarters? I want a condo facing the "historical park with a old time farm" . Can you imagine having a large grove of trees as a neighbor. Makes for quiet living. I know that is "worth" more than the condo that faces the a busy street. So if there is no money who determines who gets what?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-12-28 05:33pm

If they're really communist, then it can be determined the same way as it was in Soviet Russia, based on the kind of connections you have.

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2003-12-28 06:16pm

Didn't Kasidy Yates, Sisko's wife, also own her freighter?

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2003-12-28 06:31pm

Oberleutnant wrote:Didn't Kasidy Yates, Sisko's wife, also own her freighter?

It belonged to a bajoran comapny IIRC.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-12-28 06:51pm

Oberleutnant wrote:Didn't Kasidy Yates, Sisko's wife, also own her freighter?

She also used latinum because Federation credits were valueless. she knew that the Federation was not economically viable.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-12-28 06:51pm

Crazedwraith wrote:
Oberleutnant wrote:Didn't Kasidy Yates, Sisko's wife, also own her freighter?
It belonged to a bajoran comapny IIRC.

Well she had a freighter before she started working for them.

On the issue of the ship

KASIDY
If we can hammer out an agreement.
It's a terrific opportunity. I
get to use my own ship, pick my
own crew, and the best part is, I
never have to leave this sector.

Seems to imply while she will be working for them she will still be using her own ship, this is backed up by the fact that her ship after she starts working for the Bajorans has the same name as the ship she was using before (and I think it looks the same but I don't know for sure).

In short everything points to that ship being her property.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-12-28 06:58pm

kojikun wrote:
Oberleutnant wrote:Didn't Kasidy Yates, Sisko's wife, also own her freighter?
She also used latinum because Federation credits were valueless. she knew that the Federation was not economically viable.

Dax, Bashir and O’Brien all have Latinium as well, I would guess others have it although I can't remember specific incidents of them using it off hand.

I do know Riker has Latinium (although Quark couldn't afford to pay him in it he must have had some to be palying Dabbo in the first place) so it doesn't seem like just people on DS9 have it.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-12-28 07:51pm

In the TNG pilot did'nt we see Dr Crusher order some fabric from a street vendor and ask for it to be charged to her account?

LadyAmanda · Post by **LadyAmanda** » 2003-12-28 08:18pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote:In the TNG pilot did'nt we see Dr Crusher order some fabric from a street vendor and ask for it to be charged to her account?

yes. from what i've seen they mostly use credits......but there are some places where Federation credits aren't good for a whole lot, thus the use of gold pressed latinum. as near as i can tell anyway

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-12-29 10:42am

Montcalm wrote:
Crazedwraith wrote:Yes. Okana ran his own ship. From the TNG episode "The Outrageous Okana"
And in TOS Harry Mudd has a ship too.

Okona is a person of dubious origins, and Harry Mudd is a known criminal. What makes you think that either of these people acquired a ship through legal, Federation channels?

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-12-29 10:48am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:In the TNG pilot did'nt we see Dr Crusher order some fabric from a street vendor and ask for it to be charged to her account?

She wasn't on a Federation planet, and the locals were tseeking Federation membership. It's likely that all Starfleet officers on the planet were given local credit to gain favor. If not, it would still be pretty easy for a Federation officer to trade something unavailable on the planet for some local currency.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-12-29 11:26am

Actually the only truly legal bit of ST I can think of anyone saying they own a vessel is Scotty(and no not the ship he's bragging in ST6, I thought the vessel in Relic was his...or am I just going off kilter?).

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2003-12-29 01:12pm

And whats interesting is in the Naked Now (or something like that). When the crew of the Enterprise-D were all "intoxicated", Tasha Yar went to Deana's quarters looking for something to wear and she "infects" Deana and then says she will find what to wear at the ship's stores. If the Enterprise is the Federation flagship and there is not supposed to be money and capitalism, why would there be stores.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-12-29 01:14pm

Techno_Union wrote:And whats interesting is in the Naked Now (or something like that). When the crew of the Enterprise-D were all "intoxicated", Tasha Yar went to Deana's quarters looking for something to wear and she "infects" Deana and then says she will find what to wear at the ship's stores. If the Enterprise is the Federation flagship and there is not supposed to be money and capitalism, why would there be stores.

Storehouses...anyone?

Seriously given she makes no mention of buying them, assuming she means to purchase these things is a bit of a leap.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-12-29 01:16pm

The "ship's stores" means cargo...

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2003-12-29 01:22pm

ahh, never thought of that. My mistake

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2003-12-29 02:48pm

StarshipTitanic wrote:The "ship's stores" means cargo...

actually i remember in one episode when data was attempting to get some type of gift for o'brien and keiko's wedding he was using some type of industrial replicator to select a gift in what appeared to be a store of sorts.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-12-29 02:55pm

Darth_Zod wrote:
StarshipTitanic wrote:The "ship's stores" means cargo...
actually i remember in one episode when data was attempting to get some type of gift for o'brien and keiko's wedding he was using some type of industrial replicator to select a gift in what appeared to be a store of sorts.

He and Worf were both just looking through a database of knick-knack designs available to the ship's replicator system; there was nothing special about it.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2003-12-29 02:59pm

ah. it's been a good while since i've seen that episode. it appeared to be in some special room or something, though i wasn't entirely sure.

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