Gorgious fan-designed Fed ship

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2003-11-08 05:18pm

This ship is just gorgious ( nevermind the silly technobabble anb bio-stuff, it's the hottest ship that could be seen in ST ).

What dayya think ?

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-11-08 05:24pm

Definitely not a standard design, the CG is beautiful though. I think it looks more like an Alien Of The Week than anything Starfleet would build though.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-11-08 05:26pm

Looks nice, though I'm not personally a fan of that style.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-11-08 05:33pm

At first I thought you could be referring to the Enterprise Study (second ship). I like its design a bit more than the Sovie, if it's a bit 'civilianized'.

I wonder what a fully militarized one could do...

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-11-08 06:47pm

no offense but VOMIT.

ok, maybe i should clarify: it looks unthought out and is ridiculously simple to make with nurbs. the texturing is shit. the lighting is horrid.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-11-08 06:50pm

Well made, but I'm not a fan of the design.

Kojikun, I'd be curious to see you do better.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-11-08 06:53pm

Howedar wrote:Well made, but I'm not a fan of the design.

Kojikun, I'd be curious to see you do better.

Typical thing for someone to say. I don't have to be good at designing ships to know when something looks (and is) simplistic and ugly.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-11-08 07:00pm

Meh, doesn't look anything like Starfleet vessel and the desing is actualy pretty lame.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-11-08 07:44pm

Ugliest.ship.ever.

Seriously, it looks like a B5 shadow vessel reject.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-11-08 08:12pm

I quite like it, althoguh the bottom wings look a tad unnecessary.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-11-08 08:26pm

Looks like a big gigantic neon sign to me with those shades of colors like that heh.~Jason

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-11-08 08:40pm

Although there are a lot of nice Trek-verse designs, and it is refreshing to see original stuff in-universe from time to time, this one in particular doesn't appeal to me.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-11-08 09:15pm

kojikun wrote: Typical thing for someone to say. I don't have to be good at designing ships to know when something looks (and is) simplistic and ugly.

But you didn't criticize the design. You criticized the meshing, texturing, and lighting.

So just once kojikun, back your shit up. Looks asstastic? Fine. Do better or shut your damn mouth.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-11-08 09:21pm

Nice to know that, as bad as Berman and Bragga are, things could've been a lot worse...

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-11-08 10:30pm

Technically, it's nice. Design and coolness-wise, it's okay but not super good or anything.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-11-08 11:01pm

Howedar wrote:But you didn't criticize the design. You criticized the meshing, texturing, and lighting.

I also said the design is unthought out, so you can now kiss my ass.

So just once kojikun, back your shit up. Looks asstastic? Fine. Do better or shut your damn mouth.

I never said I could do better, dumbfuck. I have nothing to back up because I was stating my opinion on the ship, AS THE ORIGINAL POSTER REQUESTED. So fuck off, Howedar.

CDiehl · Post by **CDiehl** » 2003-11-08 11:13pm

It's a pretty design, but hard to see in the pictures. It looks sort of like something the Naboo would design. The copy is just ridiculous, and the only vaguely neat idea in it is that the landing gear can move the ship overland. If only there was a good reason for it to have that.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-11-09 02:34am

kojikun wrote: I never said I could do better, dumbfuck. I have nothing to back up because I was stating my opinion on the ship, AS THE ORIGINAL POSTER REQUESTED. So fuck off, Howedar.

So in other words, you presume to judge someone's techniques without knowing said techniques yourself? Kiss my ass, you self-righteous piece of shit.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-11-09 03:10am

Howedar wrote:So in other words, you presume to judge someone's techniques without knowing said techniques yourself? Kiss my ass, you self-righteous piece of shit.

I know the techniques, which is exactly why I was able to comment on them specifically. And even if I didn't, I can still comment on it because that was the entire point of this thread. Why don't you rag on the other people here who don't like the design, hmm? Aya thought it was ugly, why isn't he getting yelled at by you? Are his critiques not specific enough to be considered "unknowledgable"? What about Sirius? Is "lame" indicative of his expert knowledge of 3D modelling techniques? I said it's simple to make with nurbs, and that it is. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out, just someone with a passing familiarity with how nurbs work. I said the texturing is shit, and that it is. To recognize that you just have to compare it to high quality texture jobs and notice the severe lack this model has. I said the lighting is horrible. All you need to do is look at the pictures and notice that you can barely see the fucking ship in any detail because the pics are oft too dim.

What the fuck is your problem, Howwie? Afraid of someone whos a bit more knowledged then Sirius or Aya saying that it's a crappy model? If you're going to rag on me, be sure to get them to, they were less specific then I, and they said the same stuff I did.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2003-11-09 06:00am

You can hardly see it in most of those pics and in the ones you can looks ugly. If it were for a different show it could rate a "not bad" but its also totally un-treklike.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-11-09 06:16am

Howedar wrote:
kojikun wrote:I never said I could do better, dumbfuck. I have nothing to back up because I was stating my opinion on the ship, AS THE ORIGINAL POSTER REQUESTED. So fuck off, Howedar.
So in other words, you presume to judge someone's techniques without knowing said techniques yourself? Kiss my ass, you self-righteous piece of shit.

Ever done any 3D modeling work? I have, and for real engineering purposes, not just pretty pictures. The general shape of that ship is child's play with any decent CAD system. Just make an ellipsoid primitive, then hash it into a pair of NURBS surfaces, split at the middle. Now, grab a couple of points on that NURBS, pull 'em out with a surface-morph tool until you think you've got nice-looking stretched winglets, and then mirror the resulting surface. Join 'em back together, stitch it to solid, and then do a couple of Boolean subtracts in order to create those fucking stupid-looking hood scoops (the first Riceboyz Star Trek ship

), and you've got your ship.

I can't speak for Koji, and I only did 3D modeling with no regard for lighting or texturing (engineers don't care about that), but the basic ship design is child's play, and I could have whipped the basic shape up in literally 5 minutes. Besides, it looks ugly.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-11-09 06:24am

Howedar, calm down. Nomad asked what our opinions on the ship were and we gave it. The ship might look nice to some, but not to others.

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2003-11-09 07:20am

Aya wrote:Ugliest.ship.ever.

Seriously, it looks like a B5 shadow vessel reject.

Did you read the part about "bio-tech"

?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-11-09 07:53am

That's a nice, if different ship.

Rhadamanthus · Post by **Rhadamanthus** » 2003-11-09 09:09am

No sir, I don't like it.

Change the skin and make it an alien of the week sure.

But as a Starfleet ship it's all kinds of wrong.

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Gorgious fan-designed Fed ship

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Gorgious fan-designed Fed ship