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Kazon vs UFP(enterpriseish era.)
Posted: 2003-10-05 05:29pm
by Laird
Ok we all know that the kazon are practically the "SST:MI" of the star trek universe,It took dozens of their ships to capture voyager.
So for this debate we have all the kazon working together to seize control of the "Akiraprise UFP".
So for this debate earth has fielded 12 akiraprises(Fully operational and three more in space dock 70% complete.)
Along with it's normal fleet(Those smaller ships seen in season 2's "Xindi" episode.)
The vulcans will only help on a limited basis.(For the sake of the debate they see it as a "Human problem".)
Vs the kazon factions.
Posted: 2003-10-05 05:40pm
by Dark Primus
I give this to the Kazons. They will probably have technology superior to Akiraprize at this era. I think they are more equal to early TOS movies era Feds.
Posted: 2003-10-05 05:50pm
by Agent R
Nitpick here....
There is no UFP in this time period. It's just "Earth".
Posted: 2003-10-06 04:04am
by Gandalf
I think this depends on whether or not the Kazon sects unite or not, if they unite, Earth is screwed, as they have a massive speed advantage over Earth ships at the time. If they don't, they'll spend as much time fighting each other as they do Earth.
Posted: 2003-10-06 07:23am
by Sarevok
The Kazon did not have transporters or replicators. "Enterprise" era Earth has them. So they have superior technology.
Posted: 2003-10-06 07:46am
by Gandalf
evilcat4000 wrote:The Kazon did not have transporters or replicators. "Enterprise" era Earth has them. So they have superior technology.
Didn't stop Voyager, which was more advanced than ENT era, from running scared repeatedly, even from just the Kazon- Nistrim, deemed to be one of the weaker sects. Though we have only really seen the Nistrim and the Ogla.
Posted: 2003-10-06 07:55am
by Sarevok
Voyger was just one ship versus the entire Kazon fleet.
Posted: 2003-10-06 08:17am
by Gandalf
evilcat4000 wrote:Voyger was just one ship versus the entire Kazon fleet.
In Caretaker, Voyager almost gets it's ass whupped by a Kazon Warship.
In Maneuvers, a Kazon ship penetrates the hull.
In Basics 1, Voyager suffers damage from small, trivial attacks.
Also, does Earth at this point even have shields?
Posted: 2003-10-06 10:08pm
by Agent R
Nope, no shields. To protect themselves, Earth ships "charge the hull plating".
Which reminds me, the Kazon *do* have shields.
Posted: 2003-10-06 10:14pm
by Superman
If the Kazons weren't a literal race of retards (Voayger's best creation

), I would say they would have it with no problem. That being said, I think that their technology level is still greater than Akira-prise's so... kazons would win. It would not be so simple though... Or maybe it would...
Posted: 2003-10-06 10:25pm
by neoolong
Agent R wrote:Nope, no shields. To protect themselves, Earth ships "charge the hull plating".
Which reminds me, the Kazon *do* have shields.
That's polarize.
Posted: 2003-10-06 11:15pm
by Agent R
neoolong wrote:Agent R wrote:Nope, no shields. To protect themselves, Earth ships "charge the hull plating".
Which reminds me, the Kazon *do* have shields.
That's polarize.
Ah, my mistake. Can anyone explain what "polarizing the hull plating" does?