Your series

corporial · Post by **corporial** » 2003-08-22 02:01pm

What would your Trek series be like?

Let's say that after Enterprise' slow and painful ratings death that Paramount (for reasons known only to BOB) decides to put the license on hold for a while. Five years from now Paramount announces that they are ready to start the franchise back up, and are looking for a new producer to run the show. Your job is to come up with a new idea that will revitalize the series, and of course make Paramount some $$$. What would your series be like?

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-08-22 04:31pm

More politics, more space-battles, a real army for the Federation. Basically later DS9 with competent ground forces.

Edit: Maybe have something to do with the Federation gradually becoming "unethical" and the citizens starting an uprising too.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-22 04:35pm

My series would be about a real ship with real people. So in other words it would be TOS, or not trek at all. lol

Imagine a TV series based around this:

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-08-22 05:57pm

KOJI!!! you're KILLING ME!!! ROFL

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-22 06:04pm

Chardok wrote:KOJI!!! you're KILLING ME!!! ROFL

::stabstabstab:: .. Oh er..

My show would be about shit that aint stupid. So clearly it cant be trek as we know it unless you look at TOS. But then the show would have no interesting value. lol

I dont know, I dont really like spaceopera shit like that. I'm more inclined to make a story about people on earth living their lives set in the federation world. I like stories that ARENT based around the fantastical element but where the fantastic is treat like its just the ordinary. Unless the story is ABOUT the fantastical.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-08-22 07:52pm

In True Koji Fashion you have completely lost me. so basically, you are talking about some kind of sick cross between Seinfeld, star trek and robotech.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-08-22 07:59pm

kojikun wrote:My series would be about a real ship with real people. So in other words it would be TOS, or not trek at all. lol

Imagine a TV series based around this:

http://www.starfleet-museum.org/torsk_glory.jpg

I like this one best.

Adrian Tullberg · Post by **Adrian Tullberg** » 2003-08-23 09:35am

Wrote this down here ... now will repost for this thread.

Star Trek: Covert

Five individuals that are on the wrong side of the Federation's law are given the opportunity to regain their freedom: perform dangerous, near suicidal missions that Starfleet cannot possibly admit being involved in.

Using a small ship as their mobile training grounds and HQ, they are known only as the Project; the best of the worst.

Andrew Clarke (former Leutenant): A brilliant student of Starfleet Academy, but with a strong streak of anti-authoritism and violence. On his second posting, he defended his ship against a pirate raid, but was witnessed bludgeoning a defeated man to death. (The fact that the star witness had a long standing career rivalry with Clarke never entered the picture).

Now he is the field leader of The Project. Clarke is exceptionally brilliant and dangerous. He'd prefer to shoot someone in the leg rather than stun someone. There is no reason, psychologically or pshyiologically to explain his nature. One quote from his trial states 'When somebody pushes me, I push back ... and God help them if they think about getting back up.'

Lore: The only other Soong type android in existence. Starfleet engineers rebuilt and reconditioned him, and the Project took him for their own uses.

A governing unit in his neural net prevents him from acting against other members of The Project - but it won't be long before he finds a way to override it ...

It is unknown if his reconstruction started to give Lore what could be termed as 'psychosis'. His abilities are too valuable to ignore, but he is becoming more and more of a liability ...

T'venn: Romulan. Former member of the Romulan Secret Police, instrumental in the recent coup de'at and assention of Shinzon, saw which way the wind was turning, and rapidly defected to the Federation. Was held in custody until she was made the offer to join the Project.

Once an engineer with a talent for design and invention, T'venn's ambition led her to join the Tal Shiar. Now she ruminates the irony of working for a Federation covert miliatary unit. The most experienced in espionage, she is content to bide her time ...

Lois Dunn (Leutenant Commander): The team medic, her training involved field surgery in combat situations, as well as combat (armed and unarmed) However, Lois gave the wrong medication to her ships captain, and he died on the table. It was also shown that she was under the effects of a self-administered mood enhancer at the time. The Project offered her a chance to have her conviction overturned ...

Daniel Barker (former Leutenant Commander): Spent some time in Starfleet, demonstrated aptitude as a flyer and commando before resigning, getting married, and taking a job with one of the large corporations. However, on the night of his divorce, he got into a drunken fight with a Klingon, and the next thing he remembered, he was arrested for murder, and facing deportation to face Klingon justice (the fight was judged honourable, but the victim's brother had some political influence, and demanded a rematch.) The Project decided he was perfect ...

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-08-23 01:32pm

I'd be tempted to write one post Voyager/Ds9 with Starfleet using Qauntum Slipstream drives to explore the rest of our galaxy and then move out beyond it

Section 31 just begs to be turned into a series

A series set in the Klingon Empire would be enjoyable

Parellel Universe; the rebellion against the Klingon/Cardassian alliance

Special Forces: Operations against hostile powers in a form of Cold War (however, that is likely to be close to Section 31), like fighting Orion slavers

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-23 02:00pm

I would write a story arc that in essence would break down the 'happy happy, joy joy' civilization in the Federation. Massive upheavel in the public arena, the dissolution of the Federation Council and its effect on the entire Quadrant.

I mean, with ten years of near communist bliss that did nothing but get the Feddies into wars and trouble, the citizens of the Federation has got to be pissed and ready for a change.

Center the story on a starship captain who is running around the Federation putting out fires and the occasional scirmish between Federation personell and even irregulars or other empires trying to capitalize on the unrest.

His brother, sister, friend, whatever is on Earth in the middle of the firestrom. Add some good political intregue and a dash of actual tactical space and ground warfare and BOOYAH.

IMHO anyway.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-23 02:05pm

I think we need to move away from the space opera stuff, people. Centering the series on a starship immediately forces you into a situation with very vew story options. You need to set the series in a place where you can have the most situational change. Starships are not the most ideal place.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-08-23 02:10pm

kojikun wrote:I think we need to move away from the space opera stuff, people. Centering the series on a starship immediately forces you into a situation with very vew story options. You need to set the series in a place where you can have the most situational change. Starships are not the most ideal place.

Which is why you expand the story arc to incorperate multiple characters in multiple locations, but all contribute to the general plot.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-23 02:47pm

Knife wrote:Which is why you expand the story arc to incorperate multiple characters in multiple locations, but all contribute to the general plot.

But its difficult to get a ship to integrate properly without it doing some very unshiply situations.

DarthBlight · Post by **DarthBlight** » 2003-08-23 06:48pm

Here are two ideas I have for a Trek series.

1. Something like a blend of Neuromancer (and the more mundane aspects of Shadowrun, unless the audience really wants to see if goblinization improves a Klingon's looks) with Trek. I know everyone here said cyberpunk and Trek don't mix, but hey, it's my show.

Anyway, set after the Dominion War and an uprising that leaves the Federation in tatters with private corporations increasingly dominating the political and technological scene, we have a motley crew of riggers, deckers, and street samurai that do dirty deeds for the various corps. Common targets would be the Romulans, the Ferengi, and other Federation worlds.

2. A rogue Federation citizen establishes a commercial haven in a backwoods section of Federation territory. The station is called "Freepoint" and offers a large variety of commercial goods from anyone willing to set up shop and provide defense to the station. The Federation would occasionally come in as bumbling Keystone Cops and be foiled by their own tech with other adversaries being pirates and rogue outfits looking for profits and tech. This is a set up I made for the application of intelligent sci-fi and drama against the drek that is modern Trek.

RadiO · Post by **RadiO** » 2003-08-24 09:00pm

Two Captains:
Captain A is an experienced and popular ship commander, a captain in Kirk's mode. Captain B is a fairly obscure science specialist, but still a veteran of the Dominion War in which his ship was destroyed.
They meet on a starbase; they know each over from the Academy, they're polite to each other - but they are not friends. Their paths divirge again.
But somewhere along the line, Captain A was given one difficult job too many. He's been corrupted; in terms of his oath to the Federation, his financial affairs and, most damningly of all, in his moral self. And the worst of it is, he doesn't altogether dislike it.
He and the other three ships in his squadron are under the command of an Admiral who is part of a quasi-covert hardline faction in the UFP. The squadron acts as a SpecOps force of sorts; carrying out the dirty, unpleasant jobs deemed too morally repugnant for a normal SF ship to perform, but which are still deemed necessary for the UFP's continued stability. One of these jobs is acting as a "strike breaker"; putting the muscle on small worlds to settle local disputes that cost the UFP valuable resources.
On Captain A's watch, one such mission goes horribly wrong. hundreds of thousands are killed by his crew, the planetary government is at his throat, and in a near-panic he settles the situation in the least wave-making way he sees: actively aiding a coup that replaces the existing government with an 'interim' dictatorship.
As Captain A is finding living with his actions disturbingly easy, Captain B is alerted to the situation by his mentor, now a senior Admiral worried by thin - but internally consistent - rumours about Starfleet-perpetuated war crimes. She dies in combat on the Federation's frontiers before B can get to discuss things face to face.
A request for more information from Starfleet Command and the UFP Government elicts nothing. But by taking the risk of hacking into his mentor's computer system, B discovers the old Admiral's collection of 'evidence' linking SF ships to activities that are at best only barely legal; at worst, high crimes.
And a massacre, and an overthrow of a civil government... By Captain A.
Stunned, but not entirely surprised, Captain B follows his mentor's last orders; to take command of a combat-capable starship with a roving commission to conduct 'scientific research' at sites all over the Alpha Quadrant. But science isn't what's first on his mind...
And out in deep space, Captain A must try to cover his tracks and stay alive as an unknown war criminal, while keeping a lid on a suddenly rather more questioning crew - and his own doubts.
And his new nemesis should watch himself, or risk becoming every bit as morally jaundiced as his prey...

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-08-24 09:36pm

Adrian Tullberg wrote:Lore: The only other Soong type android in existence. Starfleet engineers rebuilt and reconditioned him, and the Project took him for their own uses.

A governing unit in his neural net prevents him from acting against other members of The Project - but it won't be long before he finds a way to override it ...

It is unknown if his reconstruction started to give Lore what could be termed as 'psychosis'. His abilities are too valuable to ignore, but he is becoming more and more of a liability ...

Any series involving Lore has my vote.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-08-24 09:36pm

DarthBlight wrote:1. Something like a blend of Neuromancer (and the more mundane aspects of Shadowrun, unless the audience really wants to see if goblinization improves a Klingon's looks) with Trek.

I actually wanna do a cyberpunk Star Wars film. I think the lower levels of Coruscant, Corulag, and other city-worlds are the perfect setting. I don't know about the Federation tho. I don't think their interface technology is up-to-snuff.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-08-24 11:28pm

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:More politics, more space-battles, a real army for the Federation. Basically later DS9 with competent ground forces.

Edit: Maybe have something to do with the Federation gradually becoming "unethical" and the citizens starting an uprising too.

Yeah, a B5 rip-off.

Actually, that would be the best ST series since TOS.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-08-25 07:40am

Well I have joked for years about the expoits of the fictional USS Hefner. The Orion crewed federation "Recreation Vessel" where the whole bridge crew's uniform consists of two piece outfits with rabbit ears, and the males wear shorts and are muscular (let's get the women and the gays into this). Would be a ratings smash on cable.

Trogdor · Post by **Trogdor** » 2003-08-25 03:54pm

My series would be after the Dominion War and center around a revolution within the Federation. After seeing the poverty that the dumb Fed economics has brought down on all the UFP worlds (core planets such as Earth, Vulcan, Andor etc. are of course exceptions), a large portion of Starfleet goes rogue and begins a war to restore the Federation to its non-communist, TOS form. They are outnumbered, but manage to pull through because they have most of the competent commanders in Starfleet and through deals made with other major powers. Also, many formally loyal ships defect when the rebels expose the existance of Section 31. The final battle of war, The Battle of Earth where the rebels finally capture the heart of Federation would take place in a movie and be part of the series just like any episode. After this, it would focus on rebuilding the Federation and dealing with promises made to the other major powers in return for aid. Maybe the Romulans will try and invade. I'm not sure.

Or, a series centered around the Terran Empire would be good. Not bogged down with as many rules and hey, it's the UFP with teeth!
I also thought that DarthBlight's idea second idea about the Freepoint station was good.

corporial · Post by **corporial** » 2003-08-28 08:28am

I suppose I should add my idea this thread now that it has died down a little.

My series would be set during the Fed/Romulan war. It would center around a fleet of warships of the Federation, and show how that fleet and its crew change over the period of the war.The Federation would be hanging on by a thread because of the technological superiority of the Romulans but the Fed fleet led by Admiral Perkins would use superior tactics to gain victory on the battlefields.

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-08-28 10:40am

fgalkin wrote:
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:More politics, more space-battles, a real army for the Federation. Basically later DS9 with competent ground forces.

Edit: Maybe have something to do with the Federation gradually becoming "unethical" and the citizens starting an uprising too.
Yeah, a B5 rip-off.

Actually, that would be the best ST series since TOS.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

I meant it would be alot like DS9 in the sense of it having alot more politics and a hell of alot more action. I said nothing about it taking place on a station.

As for the series; At the beginning I'd probably set it from the Federations' point of view, I'd have it show the gradual corruption of the Federation leadership and Starfleet, then I'd have it show a few captains and their crews heading out for supposedly uprising colonies. We'll hear about some border attacks, stealing of weapons and medical supplies, etc. Then the series will change (not too quickly) to the point of view of the uprising colonies and captains, from their perspective we'll watch the Federation basically turn into the mid-DS9 Cardassian Union. We'll see them develop and real military and employ a Gestapo'esque secret police "in the interests of Federation security" to weed-out the uprisers. We'll also see them ally themselves with the Romulans. The uprisers, from the beginning, will not be a rag-tag bunch of terrorists. They will be proffessionals with good training and strong morals who want to see the Federation as it used to be again. At first they'll have few ships and probably be based on a couple of Klingon colonies... The Klingons, while not being open about it, are beginning to see the Federation as "dishonourable cowards", and most are willing to harbour any uprisers (especially one or two series-specific colonies). The uprisers will steal Federation ships and weapons in attacks to gain more power, and they will also buy ships and weapons (and maybe even employ personell) from the Klingons. The last season of the series will see a glorious war in which the uprising (obviously) comes out on-top, and peace is restored. The Federation go back to being whiny dip-shits.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-08-28 02:32pm

All of which would be a replica of B5

I'd have it show the gradual corruption of the Federation leadership and Starfleet,

Check

Then the series will change (not too quickly) to the point of view of the uprising colonies and captains, from their perspective we'll watch the Federation basically turn into the mid-DS9 Cardassian Union.

Check

We'll see them develop and real military and employ a Gestapo'esque secret police "in the interests of Federation security" to weed-out the uprisers.

Check (the creation of the Minipax and Nightwatch to "protect Earth from alien saboteurs, alien sympathizers, and traitors and troubleakers who wish to undermine our government")

We'll also see them ally themselves with the Romulans.

Check (EA's aliance with the Centauri)

The uprisers, from the beginning, will not be a rag-tag bunch of terrorists. They will be proffessionals with good training and strong morals who want to see the Federation as it used to be again. At first they'll have few ships and probably be based on a couple of Klingon colonies...

Check

The uprisers will steal Federation ships and weapons in attacks to gain more power, and they will also buy ships and weapons (and maybe even employ personell) from the Klingons.

Check (the resistance relies on Sheridan's alliance and the Rangers to provide them with ships and troops)

The last season of the series will see a glorious war in which the uprising (obviously) comes out on-top, and peace is restored. The Federation go back to being whiny dip-shits.

Check (second half of season 4)

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-08-28 05:14pm

Parralell universes have been shown in quite a few episodes so my idea is kinder like a cross between Stagate:SG1 and Sliders in Star Trek:

The Federation discovers technology that allows them to cross into alrternate dimensions. A special branch (section 32?) is created to explore these new dimensions, maybe trying to set things "right" in the alternate reality. (Right as in "like our universe is".)

One thing i insist on is a large cast, so i can kill off a few people.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-08-28 10:39pm

corporial wrote:What would your Trek series be like?

Generally unconnected science fiction stories with a common setting (i.e. a Federation starship), with the odd TV movie or miniseries thrown in for big stories. Different seasons may have an overarching theme (i.e. exploration of uncharted sector, piracy/smuggling interdiction, "police action" campaign) which episodes may refer to to lend background to the show, or even be directly about when new ideas are running thin.

One idea could be the viewpoint of a Federation starship with the whole of the Federation between them and the Dominion War. As resources and starships are shifted towards the Cardassian sector, Starfleet becomes more thinly spread on other fronts and finds itself struggling to ensure smaller star empires (the Tholians? Gorn? etc.) do not encroach on and annex Federation territory. I think that would make for some great stories.

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