Braga gives you ecstacy!

[Atavarius]

Linkage.

Saw this on TrekBBS and thought that the article was more entertaining (though only slightly more comedic.) than most Ent. episodes.

Choice snippets:

It's not like we've stated that Kirk [William Shatner] never existed. What have we done?

Give them some time.

I've got people on staff who do nothing but check the continuity.

Time to get some new ones.

The fans that have been screaming for more continuity are going to be in spasms of ecstasy over this, because this is a continuing storyline

Ughhhhh... If you want people to be happy connect the Xindi to the Romulans. We'll call that "first base" and leave the ecstacy behind.

Some people who've read the scripts so far have said, 'My God, this is fantastic. Thank you for doing this

Did they write the series finale?

[FaxModem1]

I hope this guy means what he says, but he is probably just giving bull.

[Master of Ossus]

Those two are full of shit. I've had enough of their promises to fix continuity. I want to see it onscreen, or not at all.

[Patrick Degan]

Braga gives you ecstacy!

More likely Braga's on Ecstasy.

[kojikun]

More likely Braga's on Ecstasy.

No no, X just makes you happy and love-all. If Braga was on X he'd be all mushy and would just do what we told him to. No, Braga is on fucking strychnyne-laced LSD or bad shrooms or something.

[Darth Fanboy]

"I totally and completely disagree. It's the dumbest comment in the world and I am so tired of hearing it. What have we done? Give me one good example. There are some picayune things that we have chosen to do. We have not broken the rules, but we have bent rules. But there's nothing that important. It's not like we've stated that Kirk [William Shatner] never existed. What have we done?

Lets think, completely fudging up a timeline that Trek fans (aka the people who contribute to the almighty paycheck)

I love that this schmuck decides to whine and complain to the fans who dont like his stuff, rather than address theissues and fix the fucking problem.

"In fact, we're very slavish to the continuity. I've got people on staff who do nothing but check the continuity. We're constantly aware of it and we use it. We're very aware of it. In fact, I enjoy figuring out the continuity. One of the reasons that I never really did anything with the Romulans, besides the fact that people didn't really seem to be very interested in them in Nemesis, it that we couldn't do anything with the Romulans. It had been stated that no one had seen them before. So what were we going to do? Have guys in helmets all the time? We are extremely aware. If the readers can give me examples of significant breaches in the continuity, please do."

Theyve already pointed out significant breaches! Bnb Just continue to ingore them!

As for the fans notbeing interest in the RImulans during nemesis, well. Lets just say it wasnt the fucking ROmulans, it was the horrible story. Plus they featured the Remans more so than the Romulans and a human clone. Keep on crying dumbass.

"Yes, it is definitely a prequel. It's not an alternate timeline, of course not.

Im just going to light a fuckin candle or something for the once proud franchise.

"But believe it or not, there is a faction of the audience that love Enterprise just the way it is. I read a pair of fascinating, really thoughtful little essays about Enterprise in one of the sci fi magazines, one person hating Enterprise and the other loving the show. They both had really good points. So, as I said, we'll see how people respond."

That Faction is not only small but its dwindling.

He's done nothing but complain to the fans for not watching his show. Thats pathetic, beyond pathetic, its just sad.

[NecronLord]

FOR (NON EXISTANT) GOD'S SAKE MAN

Right. NL's Star Trek - Romulan War.

The Xindi, if you must have them, are Romulan Auxiliaries. The Romulans are building an empire, which will later be known as the RSE.

Rule One: The Romulans have Tech equivalent or superior to the Vulcans from now on (Sod it, if they are meant to be flying at impulse then the protofeds would run fucking rings around them. They get warp. And full disruptors - The klingons and practically everyone else will aquire this tech from them later, after the fall of the 'Romulan Star Hegemony,' which is what it shall be called - in addition to plasma based weapons tech which is to be less advanced than the TOS version (How hard can that be, 80% of TNG+ seemed weaker than TOS. And contrary to what GK would have you believe, there is a stun setting on disruptors.) This is due to their warlike nature developing tech as fast or faster than the Vulcans, who focus their efforts on Esoteric sciences and philosophy, rather than applied sciences.

Rule Two: The Romulans have a limited population, especially with the severe mutation of the population of the planet Remus due to a catastrophic and unexplained phase change in Romulus' star (This will not be revealed to the protofeds or Vulcans but romulan warp drives used an Crystaline Isomer of Trilithium (The stuff in generations is now 'Noncrystaline Trilitum, as graphite is to diamond) to regulate their reactors, this is artificially available, and thus was used rather than Dilithium, which must be mined. After this incident, which was covered up by the RSH, they switched to Quantum Singularity Reactors as soon as possible).

Remus was previously Warm - Temperate suspisiously like Vulcan, and Romulus relatively cold, like Britain or Canada, whereas now Remus is filled with vampiric mutos and Romulus is a tropical freakin paradise like California or Brazil. For this reason, we (The protofeds) will only ever see Romulans either in full armoured gear in combat, or diliberately obscured. This is due to their wish not to have the Vulcans involved in a war against them - The Vulcans presumed that their exiles perished, and do not mention it. when killed the Romulan troops will be carrying a nadion effect personal disruptor for this reason, which shall disintegrate them.

Rule Three: The Protofeds shall only be able to be sure of defeating the Romulan starships with the formation of Starfleet and the construction of the Daedalus Class Starship which will be armed with highly effective lasers rather than 'phase cannons' in order to tie with the TOS pilot and phase cannons shall be obsolete until re designed into phasers in TOS.

Rule Four: The RSH will not be enslaving people. The only way you could use slaves efficiently in a <modern nation would be agriculturally, and with ST, agriculture seems to be done in much the same way as ours - Fucking tractors and other labour saving inventions. They don't need slaves goddammit. To rectify this glaring error, Remans are enslaved later after an unsucessful attempt to take control of the Romulans after the fall of the RSH to the protofeds.

Rule Five: Cloaking devices will be somehow forgotten by all of them, by the RSH's agents using a device similar to that used in TNG Conundrum to erase their memory of it. If they do see a Romulan, the Tal'Varir (Predescssors of the Tal'Shiar. Tal = Secret, Varir = Agency, Shiar = Police, when two nouns are combined to form a neologism in Romulan, an apostrophe is inserted.) will use a similar device later to erase that image from their minds and computers before they can report it. This shall be explained by the Romulans talking to each other in asides aboard their ships/stations/planets. It will make the protofeds look fucking stupid, but still, they are anyway.

[Drooling Iguana]

Rule Five: Cloaking devices will be somehow forgotten by all of them, by the RSH's agents using a device similar to that used in TNG Conundrum to erase their memory of it. If they do see a Romulan, the Tal'Varir (Predescssors of the Tal'Shiar. Tal = Secret, Varir = Agency, Shiar = Police, when two nouns are combined to form a neologism in Romulan, an apostrophe is inserted.) will use a similar device later to erase that image from their minds and computers before they can report it. This shall be explained by the Romulans talking to each other in asides aboard their ships/stations/planets. It will make the protofeds look fucking stupid, but still, they are anyway.

I'd prefer if they revealed that the cloaking devices we've seen so far are based on advanced holography, instead of the bending of light like the ones in TOS onwards. The proto-Feds are able to defeat these holo-cloaks by the end of the Romulan War, rendering them usless for all practical intents and purposes. The idea of a light-bending cloak would be brought up at least once before the end of the series, but it would be dismissed as impossible due to the enormous power requirements.

[kojikun]

I think we should make our own series.

[Trogdor]

We'd do it better than those two idiots, even with the microscopic budget we'd have to work with.
Not interested in the Romulans! They're my absolute favorite ST villians with the Borg as a close second for cfrying out loud!
How can nobody know what they look like? Simple, audio only transmissions and they kill every human or vulcan or whoever that manages to get a look at them! Is that so hard?!?!
B&B

[Drooling Iguana]

What I don't understand is, with all the bad TV shows out there, why do people get so worked up over this one? Why not just change the channel or, better yet, turn the TV off?

[SirNitram]

Well, handing out a little X would keep the fanbase they have now indefinately...

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Are they blaming the fact Nemesis sucked in the box office on the fact people aren't interested in Romulans?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

What I don't understand is, with all the bad TV shows out there, why do people get so worked up over this one? Why not just change the channel or, better yet, turn the TV off?

Because some people just love to hate stuff.

For example, I watch the local syndication airings of the courtroom drama The Practice on a somewhat regular basis, even though I absolutely hate it. I like to see what they try and pull off next, just how wrong they can get, and just how stupid and unethical they can make the characters.

In short, I watch The Practice because I love hating it, and I assume it's like that with some people who watch Enterprise even though they think it's terrible.

[Kamakazie Sith]

I rather enjoyed this article, please read through it yourself. I did however quote the best part....IMO.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/402/402191p1.html

It is inexcusable that what was once the second biggest science-fiction brand/franchise in the world after Star Wars has been squandered (and has now been quickly supplanted by The Matrix and others).

There is only one cure – one so glaringly obvious that it's almost criminally irresponsible for Paramount/Viacom not to do it at this point... Fire Rick Berman.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

Rule Five: Cloaking devices will be somehow forgotten by all of them, by the RSH's agents using a device similar to that used in TNG Conundrum to erase their memory of it. If they do see a Romulan, the Tal'Varir (Predescssors of the Tal'Shiar. Tal = Secret, Varir = Agency, Shiar = Police, when two nouns are combined to form a neologism in Romulan, an apostrophe is inserted.) will use a similar device later to erase that image from their minds and computers before they can report it. This shall be explained by the Romulans talking to each other in asides aboard their ships/stations/planets. It will make the protofeds look fucking stupid, but still, they are anyway.

I'd prefer if they revealed that the cloaking devices we've seen so far are based on advanced holography, instead of the bending of light like the ones in TOS onwards. The proto-Feds are able to defeat these holo-cloaks by the end of the Romulan War, rendering them usless for all practical intents and purposes. The idea of a light-bending cloak would be brought up at least once before the end of the series, but it would be dismissed as impossible due to the enormous power requirements.

...power requirements which can only be met by a QSR, which won't appear until the Romulan Bird of Prey class ships seen in TOS. (The D7s the Rommies got from the Klingons were incapable of handling the power output of a QSR, so the Roms left their power systems unmodified.)

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

Additional note -- the reason the Roms were seen so infrequently in TOS, as well as the reason for their brief alliance with the Klingons, was simple:

The Romulans were still engaged in a long and costly civil war against the Remans.

The Klingons provided materiel (the D7s we saw in TOS) and possibly manpower in order to help the Romulans defeat and subjugate the Remans. In exchange, the Romulans provided technical information which allowed the Klingons to develop cloaking technology. Of course, it took the Klingons over a decade to begin mass-producing a working cloak that could be powered by their power systems, but to the Klingons (who were in a cold war with the Feds and were no doubt eager to develop every advantage they could) it probably seemed well worth the expenditure.

[NecronLord]

...power requirements which can only be met by a QSR, which won't appear until the Romulan Bird of Prey class ships seen in TOS. (The D7s the Rommies got from the Klingons were incapable of handling the power output of a QSR, so the Roms left their power systems unmodified.)

The Enterprise - Nil was able to run a cloak on a M/AM reactor. Presumably that one (which was meant to be a new model) had devreased power requirements which would have allowed Birds of prey to fire when cloaked.

[NecronLord]

The Romulans were still engaged in a long and costly civil war against the Remans.

This also happened between TOS and TNG- The Neutral Zone, hence "We are back."

[Darth Servo]

I've got people on staff who do nothing but check the continuity.

Time to get some new ones.

Just because they "check" continuity that doesn't mean they make sure ENT fits in with it. In fact some of the rumors I've heard imply that they delibrately try to contradict it. Thats why they're checking it.

[RedImperator]

I could use some ectacy. This shitty Delaware dirt weed just isn't doing it for me anymore.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

I've got people on staff who do nothing but check the continuity.

Time to get some new ones.

Just because they "check" continuity that doesn't mean they make sure ENT fits in with it. In fact some of the rumors I've heard imply that they delibrately try to contradict it. Thats why they're checking it.

The other possibility is that these "people" just get completely ignored in pitch sessions and script development. Just because they have people who keep an eye on continuity doesn't mean they ever listen to those people.

Of course, Blownuts probably doesn't expect anyone to think that far.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

There's no such thing as the Remans. They're a fantasy of Berman and Braga's. Remus was settled by part of the colonists from Vulcan, just like Romulus. The annihilation of the Romulan history and the Romulan culture that had been established in the Star Trek novels--some of the best Star Trek novels were about the Romulans and the Vulcans--was the final straw for me with Star Trek. I'll never acknowledge Nemesis as part of the Canon. Never.

Can you imagine that I used to be a pretty big Star Trek fan? At one point, before ASVS, maybe even more than Star Wars? The Franchise destroyed its interest and its respect in my eyes. It used to have a history and a myth and a whole universe built up around it. Now it's a series of disjointed parts only connected by a name and by the fact that they're spewed out by the same two crack-smoking lunatics.

I hate Star Trek.

[Patrick Degan]

There's no such thing as the Remans. They're a fantasy of Berman and Braga's. Remus was settled by part of the colonists from Vulcan, just like Romulus. The annihilation of the Romulan history and the Romulan culture that had been established in the Star Trek novels--some of the best Star Trek novels were about the Romulans and the Vulcans--was the final straw for me with Star Trek. I'll never acknowledge Nemesis as part of the Canon. Never.

Are you referring perhaps to Diane Duane's excellent novels? Wonderful books, and her history of the Romulans as well as her choice of location for their homesystem were well thought out.

I hate Star Trek.

I think rather it's Bhagwan Berman's bastardised version, which was never real ST, that you hate.

[The Duchess of Zeon]

Are you referring perhaps to Diane Duane's excellent novels? Wonderful books, and her history of the Romulans as well as her choice of location for their homesystem were well thought out.

Exactly so--they're wonderful novels, indeed

I think rather it's Bhagwan Berman's bastardised version, which was never real ST, that you hate.

Well, I tacked that sentence on as sort of a progression. I went from liking it to seeing that like eclipsed by Star Wars but enjoying both--and then to positively hating what it's become. The Star Trek of old might as well be an entirely different thing from that, yes.

Essentially--look what B&B have done to their fanbase. It started as early as DS9, for that matter, though people kept watching then for the most part. There's a point when the water boils for everyone, however...