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Uber Barclay GCS
Posted: 2003-07-23 09:23pm
by Darth Fanboy
Suppose Barclay had retained his uber intelligence he gained from that probe thingermerjigger. He integrates fully with E-D but the lame subplot involving the Cytherians s dropped and instead barclay is irreversibly connected to E-Ds computer.
Discuss.
Posted: 2003-07-23 10:14pm
by Agent Fisher
WTF
Posted: 2003-07-23 11:08pm
by neoolong
I remember the episode. He probably would have ended up giving them some advanced tech. If his problems didn't affect him that much.
Posted: 2003-07-23 11:27pm
by Marc Xavier
Superbroccoli. Let's go destroy the Borg. Whoo hoo! =D
Posted: 2003-07-24 12:52am
by Equinox2003
The episode was good. If Reg had stayed connected to the computer,
I would think there would have been certrain tech advances, But reg
himself would not have lasted a long time.
Maybe he could have come across a way to make sure the Holodecks
don't turn dangerous all the time.
Posted: 2003-07-24 04:28am
by Darth Fanboy
I dunno, his body might have given out but I am sure he would have found a way to integrate his mind ino the computer, because that is basically what he was doing to begin with, all that would bneed to happen was a complete download of his personality.
Posted: 2003-07-24 09:20am
by Col. Crackpot
at one point, before he integrated himself into the computer he increased the shield strength by 300%...just by pressing buttons. when he finally did hardwire himself in, he flung the ship a significnt distance across the galaxy in a few seconds.... yes, if he were to retain those abilities one could only imagine what he could design with a clean sheet of paper.
Posted: 2003-07-24 10:30am
by Lord Pounder
Didn't he use the Holodeck to set up the interface for that?
Posted: 2003-07-24 10:56am
by Isolder74
Lord Pounder wrote:Didn't he use the Holodeck to set up the interface for that?
Yes he did.
Posted: 2003-07-24 01:25pm
by Marc Xavier
What was the episode called?
Posted: 2003-07-24 03:44pm
by Uraniun235
The Nth Degree (I think)
Posted: 2003-07-24 04:35pm
by Solauren
I think the Federation would have been in position to conquer the galaxy., making the Borg intere there bitches in the process.
'Borg ship incoming Sir!'
'Okay, use Barclay Borg Crusher Weapon #3'
'Yes Sir.'
Posted: 2003-07-24 05:42pm
by Ted C
Col. Crackpot wrote:at one point, before he integrated himself into the computer he increased the shield strength by 300%...just by pressing buttons.
Of course, he had to drop the ship out of warp and take god knows what else offline to do it.
Col. Crackpot wrote: when he finally did hardwire himself in, he flung the ship a significnt distance across the galaxy in a few seconds....
Impressive, to be sure, but there's no indication that the ship could accomplish anything of the sort with out his Cytherian-augmented intelligence to manage the process. The warp engines are apparently capable of physically warping space to fling the ship across the galaxy in a matter of moments, but without Barclay to control the jump, they might end up thousands of light years from their intended destination or they might just explode outright (the ship
was under enormous stress during Barclay's little escapade).
Col. Crackpot wrote: yes, if he were to retain those abilities one could only imagine what he could design with a clean sheet of paper.
He could probably produce a lot of interesting things, but I think the point is pretty moot, since he was nothing but a tool of the Cytherians when he was doing all these things.
Posted: 2003-07-24 07:49pm
by Jeremy
Go off to find V'GER
Posted: 2003-07-26 04:48pm
by Enola Straight
This happened years before voyager was lost.
If the Barclay Hyper-Warp drive were to be perfected and shared throughout Starfleet, Voyager would only be HOURS from home ANYWHERE in the galaxy.
Posted: 2003-07-27 09:59pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
V'ger as in Voyager VI, not USS Voyager...
Posted: 2003-07-28 06:45am
by TurboPhaser
Well, Mr Barclays Hyper Warp Drive would be faster than SW Hyperspace for sure, if only he had retained more knowledge than useless chess skills.
It would indicate that somehow a GCS is capable of those speeds without exploding under the stress, yet as mentioned it would require Barclays super smartness to control the speed jump.
Interesting no?
Technical note
Posted: 2003-07-28 10:31am
by BenRG
TurboPhaser wrote:Well, Mr Barclays Hyper Warp Drive would be faster than SW Hyperspace for sure
It would be a lot faster because it isn't a FTL drive like warp, transwarp or hyperdrive in the normal way. If I recall the episode properly, what Reg created (or possibly what the Cytherians always had) is a thruspace drive, similar to the system on the experimental starship Event Horizon. Basically, the modified warp coils created a virtually zero-length wormhole between points A and B, allowing the Enterprise-D instantaneous transferance to the Cytherian home (or, possibly, visitor-receving) system.
Of course, as has already been noted, the Enterprise was nearly shaken apart by this experience. Obviously, contemporary Federation materials and systems are not able to tolerate the stresses from Cytherian thruspace drives, nor their turbocharging equations for energy and particle shields. Even if Barclay could remember the technology after being unplugged, it would still take centuries, maybe even longer, before Federation materials, power-generation and other technologies caught up enough to make the designs usable.
Posted: 2003-07-28 11:13am
by Col. Crackpot
Ted C wrote: Col. Crackpot wrote:at one point, before he integrated himself into the computer he increased the shield strength by 300%...just by pressing buttons.
Of course, he had to drop the ship out of warp and take god knows what else offline to do it.
yes, but still increasing the output of a major shipboard system by 300% without even taking it offline is a major feat. It is tantamount to a US Navy destroyer suddenly increasing the rate of fire of it's Phalanx system by 300% with the only drawback being that main propulsion goes offline.
Ted C wrote: Col. Crackpot wrote: when he finally did hardwire himself in, he flung the ship a significnt distance across the galaxy in a few seconds....
Impressive, to be sure, but there's no indication that the ship could accomplish anything of the sort with out his Cytherian-augmented intelligence to manage the process. The warp engines are apparently capable of physically warping space to fling the ship across the galaxy in a matter of moments, but without Barclay to control the jump, they might end up thousands of light years from their intended destination or they might just explode outright (the ship
was under enormous stress during Barclay's little escapade).
i concede that point, but he accomplished it nonetheless, with only a few minutes work. Now he needed his Cytherian-augmented intellegence, but the hypothetical we are debating allows barclay to retain that augmented intellegence.
Ted C wrote:Col. Crackpot wrote: yes, if he were to retain those abilities one could only imagine what he could design with a clean sheet of paper.
He could probably produce a lot of interesting things, but I think the point is pretty moot, since he was nothing but a tool of the Cytherians when he was doing all these things.
Was he truly a tool subject to constant manipulation by the Cytherians? Or was he modified by the Cytherians? Sadly there is insufficent evidence to prove either.
Posted: 2003-07-29 02:21am
by Sarevok
Jeremy wrote:Go off to find V'GER
V'GER is the space probe from Star Trek : The Motion Picture. Voyger is a 24th century Federation starship. Anyway the Barclay incident took place years before Voyger was lost so unless the Federation can succesfuly duplicate this technology it would be useless in bringing Voyger back to Earth.
Posted: 2003-07-29 09:15pm
by Jeremy
I ment V'GER not VGR. Why would Uber Barclay go to find some stupid ship filled with kanky bitches and eunichs when he could find something like V'GER?
Posted: 2003-07-29 09:18pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Why even bother since V'ger went into another dimension at the end of TMP?
Posted: 2003-07-29 09:40pm
by Jeremy
Why wouldn't he try to find it?
Posted: 2003-07-30 12:44am
by Sarevok
Jeremy wrote:I ment V'GER not VGR. Why would Uber Barclay go to find some stupid ship filled with kanky bitches and eunichs when he could find something like V'GER?
V'GER left the universe for some unknown destination. So finding it would be difficult. However Barclay might be able to do so with his superior powers of thought.
Posted: 2003-07-30 01:11am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Jeremy wrote:Why wouldn't he try to find it?
Because it'd be a God damn waste of time because V'ger's in another fucking dimension.
Besides, who's to say that it retained any of it's Mega-badass Super Ship abilities after it merged with Decker and metamorphosised?