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Voyager's future tech

Posted: 2003-07-23 01:33pm
by Enola Straight
Now that Voyager is home what will starfleet do with all the superior tech from 20+ years in the future?

Just throw it away due to Temporal Prime Directive?

Posted: 2003-07-23 01:56pm
by Admiral Johnason
This is for the PST forum. No, they would probably adapt it to be used on more ships and would reverse engineer it all.

Re: Voyager's future tech

Posted: 2003-07-23 01:57pm
by Micheal Ryans, Beta pilot
Enola Straight wrote:Now that Voyager is home what will starfleet do with all the superior tech from 20+ years in the future?

Just throw it away due to Temporal Prime Directive?
First: This should be in PST.

Second: I'm not sure, but the tech itself was interesting, and IMO worth seeing fuiture usage.

Posted: 2003-07-23 02:15pm
by SirNitram
Sadly, despite the E-E being completely refit since then, it showed no signs of this tech.

Posted: 2003-07-23 02:59pm
by Micheal Ryans, Beta pilot
SirNitram wrote:Sadly, despite the E-E being completely refit since then, it showed no signs of this tech.
Yeah, that kind of annoyed me about Nemesis.

The technobabble torpedoes weren't that impressive, IMO, but the armour was (I have a love of SF ships that have heavy armour).

Posted: 2003-07-23 03:02pm
by SirNitram
Micheal Ryans, Beta pilot wrote:
SirNitram wrote:Sadly, despite the E-E being completely refit since then, it showed no signs of this tech.
Yeah, that kind of annoyed me about Nemesis.

The technobabble torpedoes weren't that impressive, IMO, but the armour was (I have a love of SF ships that have heavy armour).
The thing that astounded me is this armour was apparently actual heavy armor(It held off Borg fire), yet it disabled their shields. It explains why Starfleet ditched armour: They can't project shields through it.

Posted: 2003-07-23 03:07pm
by Ghost Rider
Off to PST you go.

Posted: 2003-07-24 12:58am
by Equinox2003
I would have to say that due to the Temporal Prime Directive, the tech
was probably stashed away. But due to the amount of times the Prime
Directive is broken, who knows, perhaps they will ignore the TPD in this
case.

Posted: 2003-07-24 12:13pm
by Enola Straight
Ghost Rider wrote:Off to PST you go.
Oops.

(pokes myself)

Posted: 2003-07-24 01:47pm
by El Moose Monstero
Well considering Temporal Investigations showed up when Sisko mucked around with the K7 incident, I reckon they'd probably seize all future tech ASAP, but then I also reckon they'd bust Janeway's ass for numerous violations of both prime directives, so I've been proved wrong by Nemesis. Never mind...

Posted: 2003-07-24 07:27pm
by Jeremy
I can understand not mucking around in the past but what the heck is wrong with taking tech that comes to you from the future?

Posted: 2003-07-29 09:38am
by Drooling Iguana
Wasn't the tech that Janeway brought back from the future specialized for fighting the Borg? We haven't seen any fights with the Borg since Endgame (chronologically, at least. There was that one ENT ep that turned out much better than it deserved to be) so it makes sense that we haven't see a re-appearance of the Borg-fighting tech.

Posted: 2003-07-29 11:24am
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
The_Lumberjack wrote:Well considering Temporal Investigations showed up when Sisko mucked around with the K7 incident, I reckon they'd probably seize all future tech ASAP, but then I also reckon they'd bust Janeway's ass for numerous violations of both prime directives, so I've been proved wrong by Nemesis. Never mind...
What I'm curious about is: how does Temporal Investigations know when the timeline's been fucked with, since they'd be affected right along with everything else?

For example, if Sisko left traces of information that a 24th century ship and crew had been involved in the K7 incident, from TI's point of view it would always have been that way, and there'd be nothing for them to get all upset about.

I'd also like to know how they narrowed their investigation down to Sisko and his crew, since he didn't exactly strut right up to Kirk and say, "Hi, I'm Captain Benjamin Lafayette Sisko of the U.S.S. Defiant, Registry Number NCC-74205 -- please remember to write that down -- and I've come back from the 24th Century to fondle your yeomen. Did you get all that, Jimmy?"

Posted: 2003-07-29 11:42am
by SirNitram
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:
The_Lumberjack wrote:Well considering Temporal Investigations showed up when Sisko mucked around with the K7 incident, I reckon they'd probably seize all future tech ASAP, but then I also reckon they'd bust Janeway's ass for numerous violations of both prime directives, so I've been proved wrong by Nemesis. Never mind...
What I'm curious about is: how does Temporal Investigations know when the timeline's been fucked with, since they'd be affected right along with everything else?
[Trekkie]Oh but they aren't effected by changes in the timeline so they can perfectly avoid paradoxs and kill their enemies before they begin despite this being completely out of character!!!!11111[/Trekkie]

Sometimes they are immune to the timeline changes, but never always(Future's End). They seem to scan history for unusual signatures; they picked up Voyager departing Earth in the 20th by her powercore, IIRC.

Posted: 2003-07-29 01:17pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Meh, the whole time travel thing is probably the biggest stretch in any Science Fiction.

I missed the whole thing about Temporal Investigations looking into Dowager's warp core showing up in the 20th. When did that happen?

Posted: 2003-07-30 03:36am
by Sarevok
SirNitram wrote: [Trekkie]Oh but they aren't effected by changes in the timeline so they can perfectly avoid paradoxs and kill their enemies before they begin despite this being completely out of character!!!!11111[/Trekkie]

Sometimes they are immune to the timeline changes, but never always(Future's End). They seem to scan history for unusual signatures; they picked up Voyager departing Earth in the 20th by her powercore, IIRC.
Captain Braxton mentioned in that episode that their sensors can scan time the way normal sensors scan space. That may mean they can see things happening in the past or the future and therefore keep an eye out for any possible anamoly that is not consistent with that particular period of time (example warp emissions in Earth orbit in 20th century).