Game of Thrones Season 3 (Spoilers)

[Terralthra]

Usually the scenes with Danerys are my cue to get up and get drinks, go to the bathroom or whatever because they bore me. Not this season! Three guesses why...

Definitely a costume powered by the Theiss Titillation Theory.

[Scrib]

Just curious: did anyone else find the introduction of Edmure really awkward and odd? I get that it's TV and they couldn't cast the guy earlier or work around this but he seems to just...*poof* appear as if he's always been there, fuck as if the Riverlanders had always been there. It's hinted at once, but then dropped after the first season.

If there are any tv-only viewers: was it weird?

[Atia]

All in all I think they handled the final scene with Jamie fairly well. Those kinds of scenes could be a real handful to get right and can kind of come off heavy handed. You really got to see Jamie’s charming side as he talked them out of raping Brienne and did his best to make sure she’d be fine, though he over played his hand a bit. I wonder how Jamie is gonna handle his new handicap.


Okay I got those out of my system… terribly sorry.


Anyways I think my favorite scene is the council meeting scene from early on. I just loved the weird awkward silence from the beginning and the entire chair moving around bit. Not sure why but it just had me giggling all the way through considering how dry the rest of the scene was.

[Vympel]

I haven't read the books but I knew Jamie was fucked when that guy pulled out the Bowie Knife.

That's why they cast an Australian dude

Awesome episode. Loved the punk rendition of The Bear and the Maiden Fair at the end.

[Ralin]

Can I say the crowning moment of this episode was not the end but Pod's payment and then return. The lead up was excellent then we get a little bit about how Littlefinger was such a good master of coin and then... Pod walks in and hands back the money... the entire conversation there was glorious

I laughed out loud for a good two or three minutes.

Didn't like how much they emphasized Edmure being an idiot. Granted he kind of is, but I think the Blackfish would have at least respected his grief enough to not be a dick to him like that at his own father's funeral.

But then I'm biased because I've always thought that the whole thing with him haring off on his own against orders was at least as much Robb and the Blackfish's fault as Edmure's.

EDIT:

Awesome episode. Loved the punk rendition of The Bear and the Maiden Fair at the end.

...That was supposed to be there?

[Vympel]

But then I'm biased because I've always thought that the whole thing with him haring off on his own against orders was at least as much Robb and the Blackfish's fault as Edmure's.

It was, but the emphasis is less here, for sure.

EDIT:

...That was supposed to be there?

Yup. And it was cool. Perfect smash cut music.

Oh, and if anyone who just watches the show hasn't figured out who Theon's mysterious benefactor is yet ... well, we've got visual cues in Episode 2 and now we've got dialog in Episode 3.

[Ralin]

Yup. And it was cool. Perfect smash cut music.

Oh, and if anyone who just watches the show hasn't figured out who Theon's mysterious benefactor is yet ... well, we've got visual cues in Episode 2 and now we've got dialog in Episode 3.

Huh. I assumed it was a prank because it drowned out the last minute or so of dialogue.

[loomer]

Yup. And it was cool. Perfect smash cut music.

Oh, and if anyone who just watches the show hasn't figured out who Theon's mysterious benefactor is yet ... well, we've got visual cues in Episode 2 and now we've got dialog in Episode 3.

Huh. I assumed it was a prank because it drowned out the last minute or so of dialogue.

Your HBO must be out of sync, then, because it comes on the moment it goes to credits and not before.

[Vympel]

Huh. I assumed it was a prank because it drowned out the last minute or so of dialogue.

The last minute? Yeah, no. Your shit is fucked up dude.

Oh, one other thing - I loved how hapless they made poor, put upon Edmure. Hope to get to see some of his good qualities in the coming episodes, I felt pretty bad for him when he couldn't hit the boat (that's a hard shot, ffs)

[Scrib]

Yeah, they rolled two shitty moments into one and then had the Blackfish strike his fucking liege lord. I'm not sure how he's gonna come back from this, his biggest moment has been taken away.

[TheHammer]

Can I say the crowning moment of this episode was not the end but Pod's payment and then return. The lead up was excellent then we get a little bit about how Littlefinger was such a good master of coin and then... Pod walks in and hands back the money... the entire conversation there was glorious.

Yeah, that was hilarious. It seems clear that he didn't sleep with them, which I liked

Also, fuck the song at the end. Fuck it.

I believe the implication was that he DID sleep with them, but was apparently so good they gave the money back. Hence his having been gone for a long time, and the comments about having done "lots of things with them" that they liked.

of course mind rape to go along with the previous sadism, so the boltons are just fucking sadistic to 11.

If that whole thing was planned, It was a rather costly "mind rape" considering he killed several of his own men in the process. Still curious to see how that plays out.

[Ralin]

I believe the implication was that he DID sleep with them, but was apparently so good they gave the money back. Hence his having been gone for a long time, and the comments about having done "lots of things with them" that they liked.

Totally.

If that whole thing was planned, It was a rather costly "mind rape" considering he killed several of his own men in the process. Still curious to see how that plays out.

Oh, I think that Ramsey considers it more than worth the price of several of his own men's lives to thoroughly fuck with Theon's head. Some things are worth taking the time and trouble to do right.

[Scrib]

I'm pretty sure that's what Tyrion inferred but come on, that's ridiculous. What's more likely Pod simply didn't sleep with them and took the money back and made up a story. It's humorous to assume otherwise but it was LITTLEFINGER'S place.

[The Grim Squeaker]

If that whole thing was planned, It was a rather costly "mind rape" considering he killed several of his own men in the process. Still curious to see how that plays out.

Oh, I think that Ramsey considers it more than worth the price of several of his own men's lives to thoroughly fuck with Theon's head. Some things are worth taking the time and trouble to do right.

It could be a case of divergence from the book - namely Theon setting up his "capture" of the escaped Theon to improve his standing with his father.

[Mr Bean]

I'm pretty sure that's what Tyrion inferred but come on, that's ridiculous. What's more likely Pod simply didn't sleep with them and took the money back and made up a story. It's humorous to assume otherwise but it was LITTLEFINGER'S place.

There are folks insisting online that Tyrion leaves two bags of gold not one. One for them to take in payment, one for them to "return" to give Pod a bit of an ego boost.
Not sure I have HBO go but it's kind of hard to watch Tyrion during the minute and a half scene in there.

[Vaporous]

Yeah, it's also possible to assume Tyrion paid them off before they went into the room to boost Pod's confidence. Even Littlefinger brought up how much Tyrion owed the kid. Maybe he knew about the arrangement.

If not, "Podrick Payne, Memetic Sex God" is funny enough to stand on its own, and was a bright spot in a dark episode.

[PKRudeBoy]

It could also be Littefinger comping it to stay in the Lannister's good graces, or perhaps thinking that Pod would keep the money and feel indebted to him.

[Elfdart]

I haven't read the books but I knew Jamie was fucked when that guy pulled out the Bowie Knife.

That's why they cast an Australian dude

Australians have Bowie Knives? Is Australia a long lost colony of Texas or something? Next you'll tell me they have bolo ties and el caminos!

I'm pretty sure that's what Tyrion inferred but come on, that's ridiculous. What's more likely Pod simply didn't sleep with them and took the money back and made up a story. It's humorous to assume otherwise but it was LITTLEFINGER'S place.

Either that or Littlefinger told him it was on the house. Remember he and Tyrion were talking about Ros earlier. Not only did Tyrion boink her but Baelish knows Cersei had her locked up and Tyrion got her out -which would naturally make Baelish suspicious that more was going on between Ros and Tyrion than a couple of rolls in the hay back in Winterfell. A few free tricks here or there and maybe Podrick might rat out Tyrion whether deliberately or not.

Just curious: did anyone else find the introduction of Edmure really awkward and odd? I get that it's TV and they couldn't cast the guy earlier or work around this but he seems to just...*poof* appear as if he's always been there, fuck as if the Riverlanders had always been there. It's hinted at once, but then dropped after the first season.

If there are any tv-only viewers: was it weird?

I thought it was brilliant. That one scene with the boat illustrated all the viewer needs to know about the two men.

Definitely a costume powered by the Theiss Titillation Theory.

I posted a link to this video in the other thread, but Missandei is an example of where the SCHWING! sound would be realistic.

[Meest]

The Tyrion/Pod thing was really cool, you get the implications earlier with the conversation with Littlefinger. Not only did Tyrion save Ros, in a way Tyrion becoming Master of Coin also helps Littlefinger get away from King's Landing. He almost looked like he put the notion of naming Tyrion as new Master of Coin with his smirk when Tywin officially does it. I took it as some little payback or scratch my back I scratch yours by having Pod's fee on the house. Tyrion gets a more confident squire and seemed like a genuine nice gesture for saving his life.

Was lots of humour (maybe too much, it was the directorial debut of the show runners I think) to distract from the ending shock but also some good acting and writing by showing that these people aren't completely black and white and that people can still have light-hearted fun even in terrible times. Was hoping they hinted that Daenerys does in fact speak Valyrian with her knowing the Valar Morhulis and should make that scene more satisfying.

The bad audio was a bad rip for the torrent folk, the song only plays during the credits, did like that they did a more traditional version during the episode with the Brotherhood.

[Darksider]

I'm liking this season so far, though I think I got a bad download for the last ep. The audio cut out at the end and it started playing some weird music or something.

Also, Relevant?

[spaceviking]

That was the credit music, just came on early.

[CaptHawkeye]

I think Robb was being hard on Edmure. Unless anyone can show me that Edmure had received clear instructions to lure the Mountain into a trap and not to engage him directly. You can't really blame the guy for taking initiative if Robb didn't make his plans known.

[Scrib]

Of course he is. It's was all a big manipulation to get Edmure to marry someone else to redeem himself-i.e. fix Robb's mess. If Robb wants something done he can bloody well let his lieutenants know. Now, granted, if Blackfish's behavior is anything to go by the King's court doesn't have a high opinion of Edmure but this is totally on the,

In the series...I think it's gonna play out the exact same way.

I thought it was brilliant. That one scene with the boat illustrated all the viewer needs to know about the two men.

It highlighted their dynamic but I think the show is weaker with...I'm struggling with the word here-spatial? Strategic? details. (despite the brilliance of the opening sequence) We don't see the riverlanders until now and all of a sudden Robb has a new bannerman when we never saw the Riverlanders swearing fealty, something which should have happened given the fact that Robb apparently smashed Jaime at Riverrun. Are we just supposed to assume it? Why? When everyone we saw driving the conversation was a Northman? It's then never mentioned again. Then boom Edmure + Blackfish.

I know that this is because they couldn't cast people 2 seasons two early but it seems really weird.

Anyway, it's a minor gripe, one made inconsequential by the fact that I read the books.

[Ralin]

Of course he is. It's was all a big manipulation to get Edmure to marry someone else to redeem himself-i.e. fix Robb's mess. If Robb wants something done he can bloody well let his lieutenants know. Now, granted, if Blackfish's behavior is anything to go by the King's court doesn't have a high opinion of Edmure but this is totally on the,

In the series...I think it's gonna play out the exact same way.

Eh, I think they were legitimately pissed at Edmure for fucking up their plan to catch Tywin. But yeah, it should have been very obvious that Edmure would ignore orders and hare off on his own if he thought he saw a good reason to do so. And if Robb didn't know him well enough to realize that the Blackfish damned well should have. Part of being a good leader is know one's people, after all.

[Vympel]

We don't see the riverlanders until now and all of a sudden Robb has a new bannerman when we never saw the Riverlanders swearing fealty, something which should have happened given the fact that Robb apparently smashed Jaime at Riverrun. Are we just supposed to assume it? Why? When everyone we saw driving the conversation was a Northman? It's then never mentioned again. Then boom Edmure + Blackfish.

There should have been a throaway line in Season 1 or 2 that both the North and the Riverlands had proclaimed Robb King (as in King in the North and the Riverlands) - but ultimately I don't think it matters that much. Blackfish chastising Edmure about Robb being his king is adequate to establish it.

Australians have Bowie Knives? Is Australia a long lost colony of Texas or something? Next you'll tell me they have bolo ties and el caminos!

Knyfe's a knyfe, maaaaaate.